The Last of Us Franchise - Because it's apparently a franchise now. This thread has been double-DMCA’d by Sony Interactive Entertainment.

As if this there ever was spirituality, morality & reasoning.

spirituality = dogma of the church, confess your sins or you burn in hell, murder heretics, burn witches...

morality = gays bad, women bad, the church tells you how to live your life and the priests rape your sons.

reasoning = war is great! Darkies need to be enslaved, let's gas the joos, let's murder the disabled...and so on

NO society was ever like the utopia you are talking about.
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Honestly, I wouldn't put it past Cuckman to use the director's cut to make the big reveal that Abby is indeed trans so all that Abby hate is transphobic.
Cuckmann isn't the smartest man, we know this. And I can see him doing it. But surely, he would understand that people would then take that info and both crowds would run with it.

"Abby's trans so you make us do all this awful shit? Do you hate trans people, Neil?"

"Abby's trans, and I fucking hate trannies. Therefore, my hatred for this dumbass game is based on how I was forced to play as a TRANNY who killed my favorite character!"

Speaking of trannies one detail of the story I didn't learn until now is that Lev kills her/his mother. What underlying theme or message is there in a 13 year old troon murdering their parent who doesn't accept their troonery? Especially one that seemingly only wants to be a boy because she was going to be a child bride against her will, which is natural in a culture with strict gender roles.

Also their cult makes no goddamn sense. So some women become warriors and some are sold off to older men? They couldn't help but even try to make bad guys more woke?
It's almost as if the writers at Naughty Dog don't fucking know how to write a story. If you gave me a month and $200, I could write a better fucking sequel.
Let's be honest
It's probably both
Now I know 4chan ain't to be trusted 100% of the time but there was a thread on there explaining that only reviews that are 5 stars and up can stay up on the game's page. Anything below gets deleted on the assumption that you are review bombing the game. He tried doing a 1 star review, it was deleted and given a 503 error code. Then he tried giving it a 10 star, it stayed up.

Big if true
you know if they really wanted to push a "REVENGE IS BAD" plot, could've had Ellie kill Abby at the end, leave Lev alive. Fast forward two or three years, Ellie is happy in her lesbian house, knock on the door, it's Lev with a gun, credits.

just after seeing all these people on twitter crying "ELLIE SHOULD'VE GOT HER REVENGE" that would've been a much better way to drive the point home to those people instead of blue balling them.
That sounds like it would still have been a shitty game. And I guarantee, in the alternate universe where that was the ending, people would just have said, "Wow Naughty Dog, ripping off Red Dead Redemption? Why don't you write your own shit?"
 
That sounds like it would still have been a shitty game. And I guarantee, in the alternate universe where that was the ending,

Lol. The only alternate universe in which TLOU2 is good is the same one in which Arnold J. Rimmer is even more pathetic and weaselly than the one in ours.
 
Cuckmann isn't the smartest man, we know this. And I can see him doing it. But surely, he would understand that people would then take that info and both crowds would run with it.

"Abby's trans so you make us do all this awful shit? Do you hate trans people, Neil?"

"Abby's trans, and I fucking hate trannies. Therefore, my hatred for this dumbass game is based on how I was forced to play as a TRANNY who killed my favorite character!"


It's almost as if the writers at Naughty Dog don't fucking know how to write a story. If you gave me a month and $200, I could write a better fucking sequel.

Now I know 4chan ain't to be trusted 100% of the time but there was a thread on there explaining that only reviews that are 5 stars and up can stay up on the game's page. Anything below gets deleted on the assumption that you are review bombing the game. He tried doing a 1 star review, it was deleted and given a 503 error code. Then he tried giving it a 10 star, it stayed up.

Big if true

That sounds like it would still have been a shitty game. And I guarantee, in the alternate universe where that was the ending, people would just have said, "Wow Naughty Dog, ripping off Red Dead Redemption? Why don't you write your own shit?"


Eh, when I talk about "fixing" media and stories and shit. I tend to try and just improve on what's given, such as, yeah Last of Us 2 is a bad story. But with some tweaks here and there, it could be better. Obviously rewriting the whole thing would be better, but that's not exactly improving on what we got, that's just..something else entirely. Having Lev circle around to Ellie for "revenge bad" is better than Ellie just arbitrarily letting Abby go in my opinion.
 
I also want to point that after lev kills his mother, his sister is super okay with it and literally says "You did nothing wrong!" like their mother deserved to die. You should feel guilty about dead dogs but dead TERFs are totally fine!
Why cant some other kid of that mother go on a revenge quest and hunt down the trans fag?
Isnt that the theme of the game?
 
Speaking of trannies one detail of the story I didn't learn until now is that Lev kills her/his mother. What underlying theme or message is there in a 13 year old troon murdering their parent who doesn't accept their troonery? Especially one that seemingly only wants to be a boy because she was going to be a child bride against her will, which is natural in a culture with strict gender roles.

Also their cult makes no goddamn sense. So some women become warriors and some are sold off to older men? They couldn't help but even try to make bad guys more woke?

A good writer would come up with a believable reason why some girls become soldiers and some become child brides. But this storyline only exists to make Lev a precious transboi whose mommy doesn't respect his pronouns. In a grimdark post-apocalyptic world. The only thing better would be Lev being offered a bigot sandwich to complete the picture. :lol:

How will Lev get top surgery? Are we going to have terrible fanfics where Abby goes on a crusade to find a binder and hormones for him?
 
A good writer would come up with a believable reason why some girls become soldiers and some become child brides. But this storyline only exists to make Lev a precious transboi whose mommy doesn't respect his pronouns. In a grimdark post-apocalyptic world. The only thing better would be Lev being offered a bigot sandwich to complete the picture. :lol:

How will Lev get top surgery? Are we going to have terrible fanfics where Abby goes on a crusade to find a binder and hormones for him?

Lev's still young! They can introduce her to good old fashioned breast ironing.
 
Oh he's doing a Razorfist.
He was PISSED when Deus Ex Mankind Divided (which took advantage of Black Lives Matter in the plot and tried to paint a world in which Augmented Humans are discriminated against) under performed, and went around blaming those that didn't buy it/didn't like it. He still does it to this day.

That game was also shitty but less so than Last of Us Part 2.
Woah woah DX MD isn't even in the same sport as TLoU2 let alone league.

That was a game that stayed true to the characters and mechanics or DX HR but was chopped and screwed to hell and back by Square Enix to milk more money.

Wish that game had gotten a director's cut.
 
Woah woah DX MD isn't even in the same sport as TLoU2 let alone league.

That was a game that stayed true to the characters and mechanics or DX HR but was chopped and screwed to hell and back by Square Enix to milk more money.

Wish that game had gotten a director's cut.

I found the plot to be utter trash though. But you are right about the Mechanics.
 
I've been watching some twitch streamers who only stream Uncharted/TLOU to get their views on the game. I'm not sure if it's blind fanboyism, stockholm syndrome, or both, but the majority of them love the game, even the story. I have to think that deep down some of them are just in complete denial. Blind fanboyism seems to be the only thing that explains defending a story with endless plot holes, character assassinations, continuity errors, etc.

P.S. Sorry if this has been posted already, but I love how Abby's dad magically changed from black to white in between the games.
 

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They made him white?
They missed a golden opportunity. They could have made Joel kill a black and then get extras racism points.
Which means they would have extra juice to attack anyone who wanted Joel to live with racism, combo that with the george fluyd mess and you got some extra oomph to the game.
Yeah, but then they'd have to make Abby black too, and people already had a hard enough time accepting a trans-woman.
 
I have to think that deep down some of them are just in complete denial. Blind fanboyism seems to be the only thing that explains defending a story with endless plot holes, character assassinations, continuity errors, etc.

You see it with everything: Films, games, TV shows. People who have no personality invest in these things and then these games etc BECOME their personalities. So they HAVE to like it, they HAVE to defend it and an attack on their preferred media becomes an attack on them.

I'm not a psychologist and I've done no research.
 
Yeah, but then they'd have to make Abby black too, and people already had a hard enough time accepting a trans-woman.
Black people don't have tits that look like a nazi experiment and being black in the post apocalypse isn't preposterously narcissistic. And, you know, there have been black people in video games since the beginning of video games and nobody gave a shit. This is such a retarded take that I assume you are a video game journalist.
 
Make her lisp, flamboyant, mutant one. Probably most marxist thing to do XD
Last Of Us 3 will feature a trans muslim with a lisp wearing a hijab, solving crimes and injustice in the post apocalypse while being wheelchair bound.
Oh and we‘ll see a very touching and intimate sex scene where Xe gets fucked in the ass while jerking off two FtM Trannies at the same time.
Druckmann will appear on screen, shedding a tear and clapping for your bravery for playing HIS game.
 
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