Cultcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

[The Littlest Shitlord]

That sounds about right. I hope his parents can convince him to make paying his fine off his priority because courts can be merciless if they're owed money.

He'll just refuse to pay and right before the due date, his parents will pay off the entire thing to save his dumb worthless ass. Again.

 

[Barbarella]

Not saying his teenage hooker story is true...but can you imagine being his parents hearing about the danger this kid put in your path as only a junior in HS?

Lots of high school kids haven’t had sex yet, and aren’t disabled or even ugly. Some are working on academics, or are a bit shy, or can’t find somebody, or whatever. It’s hardly unusual, especially in a place like Utah. There is plenty of time in senior year or college to find a girlfriend and have sex. It shows how obsessed he was with whores from an early age.

How many 18 year olds would consider calling a Craigslist whore and having one come to your parents house so you can get your dick wet as a junior in HS?

And then to not even have the money. (Which is why I think the story is fake). Was he planning to fuck her than make her wait while he went to the bank? Can’t be real.

Just imagining this story to have some guy read online as a scary story where you are in the right, and people are expected to be “scared” for you. It’s just so bizarre and so Russ.

 

[Constellationzero]

I reckon that's how it ends for Rusty

Maybe 5-10 years from now, he's finally locked up for soliciting an undercover cop or harassing more women or something. He's sure that in prison he's going to be top dog because this is all a big misunderstanding and HE knows the law because he has his paralegal degree like a big boi. But then no one listens to his plights, and prison is so totally not awesome for a studly stud like Russ. Maybe he calls someone a saggy pants thug and gets shanked in the exercise yard. Maybe his cellmate smothers him in his sleep after one too many nights of hearing sad sweaty fapping from the top bunk. Maybe he takes up snitching and gets Epstein'd. I don't know. But it's definitely only a matter of time before he gets murdered in prison.

He can get shanked in county lockup FWIW. Butternut squash can't shut his eyes or move them, so he constantly has that eerie corpse stare along with the sex offender breathing and slurping. Even low level inmates have this obsession with "respect" and unwritten rules laid out by various factions. Butternut WILL break these regularly by "staring" at another inmate or "looking someone in the eye."

 

[DrJonesHat]

He'll just refuse to pay and right before the due date, his parents will pay off the entire thing to save his dumb worthless ass. Again.

Yeah, I think we got confirmation they paid off the court costs that were levied on him at the AG trial. He said he wasn't going to pay because it wasn't fair, and then Skordas forced the issue.

I can see him refusing to pay the fine, because I think he's convinced he's done nothing wrong. There's also the whole "rules are for other people" mindset he's got. The more I think about it though, I believe he might not break the no-contact order. His parents may have told him if he fucks up during the year, he's on his own. I don't think anything other than that would make him abide by it, because again, unless we're way off the mark, he thinks he's in the right. I wonder if he's planning on suing Erika for slander or something.

 

[Grand Number of Pounds]

He was incensed that he had to go to court, and I agree, he thinks he did nothing wrong and it's all Erika's fault that she blew it out of proportion or that Chad forced her into pressing charges because he's jealous or whatever nonsense Russ tells himself to justify himself.

 

[The Dude]

Prison would be a right bitch for Russ simply because they’d feed him prison food, not sugar cereals and Costco muffins. He’d likely go into shock from his body ingesting canned veg, however wilted.

Then he’d complain to the guards that he didn’t like the food and not being able to request an all-sugar-and-chemicals special diet is discrimination against the disabled.

Just thinking about what he voluntarily eats every day (colossal crunch and deep fried muffins anyone) makes me ACTUALLY want to eat prison food instead.

It's not like they'd be feeding him Olive Garden and Berry Colossal Crunch in county jail either. It's going to be very similar to prison life, only the inmates are less dangerous.

I love how our boy is a high-powered super-knowledgeable legal eagle...until he's facing actual charges against himself and needs mommy and daddy to pay for a big-boy lawyer to come save his greasy ass.

His legal skills are flawless when it comes to suing celebrities for an all-access pussy pass, but getting himself out of trouble? That's just beyond Russell's capability. He's used to being the one seeking to punish the other person.

I almost wish Mommy and Daddy Greer hadn't ponied up for a lawyer for their rodent son, and left him to lie in the bed he made himself instead. I would pay good money to travel to the alternate universe where Russell has to represent himself against Erika/Skordas. I'm sure as shit he wouldn't have pled "no contest"!

I honestly think he was planning on representing himself, but his parents told him not to be fucking retarded and get a real lawyer. He probably said something about not being able to afford it and they said they'd help so he wouldn't go to jail or have a hard conviction fucking up his criminal history to make life harder for him. They likely gave him some demands and expectations, like abiding the conditions of the plea bargain and if he fucked up again they won't bail him out again.

Rusty wouldn't make it a day in jail at this point in his life. Probably when he was locked up as a teen the other inmates took it easy on him because, well, tard and I would bet that he was kept away from the general population given his age. I can't remember from his tome, but surely someone does, does he speak at all about interacting with saggy pants thugs or hispanic gang members during his time in the clink? At his age, and his gross overconfidence, he'd be fucked in more ways than one. That's just jail. God forbid he have to go to big boy prison for something.

He was still living in Evanston, WY at that point, and Wyoming is whiter than Utah. There are some Latinos in Wyoming, but not a lot of blacks aside from military personnel. So he was most likely around mostly crackers with possibly a few wetbacks thrown in for flavor.

Yeah, Russ would get a bitter dose of reality if he went to jail, even if he was around misdemeanors who have a reason to behave themselves to avoid getting into worse trouble.

Russ can't even handle normal people telling him off or not giving him what he wants - can you imagine how he'd handle jailbirds harassing and bullying him?

He'd likely spend a lot of time hiding in his cell, crying. And the thought of Russ actually crying...all the drool and snot and the slurpy-sob sounds? That's a nasty mental image. And you're all welcome for me putting it into your minds.

I reckon that's how it ends for Rusty

Maybe 5-10 years from now, he's finally locked up for soliciting an undercover cop or harassing more women or something. He's sure that in prison he's going to be top dog because this is all a big misunderstanding and HE knows the law because he has his paralegal degree like a big boi. But then no one listens to his plights, and prison is so totally not awesome for a studly stud like Russ. Maybe he calls someone a saggy pants thug and gets shanked in the exercise yard. Maybe his cellmate smothers him in his sleep after one too many nights of hearing sad sweaty fapping from the top bunk. Maybe he takes up snitching and gets Epstein'd. I don't know. But it's definitely only a matter of time before he gets murdered in prison.

Unless Russ finally snaps and does something violent, I don't ever see him doing anything that would send him to real pound-me-in-the-ass prison. It'll be piddly shit like harassing girls online, and I give him even odds on winding up in jail for it one day. Because Russhole never learns.

Not saying his teenage hooker story is true...but can you imagine being his parents hearing about the danger this kid put in your path as only a junior in HS?

Lots of high school kids haven’t had sex yet, and aren’t disabled or even ugly. Some are working on academics, or are a bit shy, or can’t find somebody, or whatever. It’s hardly unusual, especially in a place like Utah. There is plenty of time in senior year or college to find a girlfriend and have sex. It shows how obsessed he was with whores from an early age.

How many 18 year olds would consider calling a Craigslist whore and having one come to your parents house so you can get your dick wet as a junior in HS?

And then to not even have the money. (Which is why I think the story is fake). Was he planning to fuck her than make her wait while he went to the bank? Can’t be real.

Just imagining this story to have some guy read online as a scary story where you are in the right, and people are expected to be “scared” for you. It’s just so bizarre and so Russ.

He was still living in Evanston at 18. Hadn't even gone on his mission yet. He was still trying to be a good LDS boy at that point, so I don't see him starting his whoremongering that early. According to him, he didn't start doing naughty things until he and his companions went to strip clubs during their mission to Phoenix. I don't think he started banging store-bought strange until he got home from his mission, had that "If you don't find a wife in life, you'll find one in Heaven" conversation with his Bishop that made him rage-quit the Church, and moved out of his parents house and away from their supervision. I highly doubt Russ would have had the guts to pay for prostitutes while still living with his parents, and he was still holding out hope for a hot LDS girl to marry at that point. The whole story was a lie.

He can get shanked in county lockup FWIW. Butternut squash can't shut his eyes or move them, so he constantly has that eerie corpse stare along with the sex offender breathing and slurping. Even low level inmates have this obsession with "respect" and unwritten rules laid out by various factions. Butternut WILL break these regularly by "staring" at another inmate or "looking someone in the eye."

No one in county jail is going to risk a murder rap and going to actual prison by shivving Russhole. They'll definitely beat his ass like a rented mule if he pisses them off or annoys them, but they're not going to shank him. He's not worth it.

 

[WhaleOilBeefHooked]

He'd likely spend a lot of time hiding in his cell, crying. And the thought of Russ actually crying...all the drool and snot and the slurpy-sob sounds? That's a nasty mental image. And you're all welcome for me putting it into your minds.

No one in county jail is going to risk a murder rap and going to actual prison by shivving Russhole. They'll definitely beat his ass like a rented mule if he pisses them off or annoys them, but they're not going to shank him. He's not worth it.

I noticed in his book he mentions bursting into tears several times. I wonder if he thinks this earns him sympathy points with the reader or makes them notice his plight more or something. And as for the shivving, I see your point, but something tells me Russell would be a total rat if given the chance, so he may find himself on some people's bad sides quickly.

 

[DrJonesHat]

I'm legit surprised that this actually hasn't happened yet. It's not like they're making bank or even consistent money off him that would let his shit behavior slide. He's literally just a pest who tries to rip off the girls and convince them to leave their stable. He's not really a threat, but he's a waste of time and that's usually enough to at least earn a small beat down by the girl if not the pimp.
I dunno though, maybe it's different in Utah and his tard-pass is somehow still valid there.

I think to people who don't know him and aren't familiar with his disability, he really does come across as being mentally impaired, and they're inclined to cut him undeserved slack. I do note he's never mentioned visiting the same woman twice. I don't know if this is deliberate on his part, or if he's such a shitheel they blacklist him after one session. Given how delusional he is, I think the constantly trying to cheat them is more his fantasy of them being so enamored of him they do it for free or a reduced rate than intent to be deceitful. Remember that no matter how many times he fails at something, he's convinced that THIS time is the time it'll work. When the sex worker inevitability fails to fall for his charms, she assumes he's just a sped who doesn't understand how hookers work, and therefore just demands her money rather than kicking his ass or calling in a guy to do it for her. Nobody wants to get popped for administering a beatdown to a sped. Of course, he's not a sped (at least not in the official sense) but he doesn't understand how hookers work. I wonder of all the escorts he bugs on Instagram if any have ever tried to explain to him why what he wants isn't realistic, and if he's going to hire them, he needs to stick to his end of the deal, and not expect a real relationship. Of course he'd tune them out, but I wonder if anyone has ever tried. That's why I was hoping for court ordered therapy. He needs to have his delusions confronted in an environment where he can't just tune out the person confronting him and he can't quit because they told him something he doesn't want to hear.

 

[Deadpool]

Isn't tonight supposed to be Rekieta's Greer stream?

 

[Free the Pedos]

I noticed in his book he mentions bursting into tears several times. I wonder if he thinks this earns him sympathy points with the reader or makes them notice his plight more or something. And as for the shivving, I see your point, but something tells me Russell would be a total rat if given the chance, so he may find himself on some people's bad sides quickly.

This may be reaching, but I've heard some ex-Mormons complain about a program of sorts that has been used in the Mormon community called HeartSell, which basically teaches you to manufacture emotion in order to convince people to do something. People have pointed out how the Mormon male co-owner of LuLaRoe (a pyramid scheme) uses HeartSell techniques, like crying, to manipulate his audience. I wonder if Russ has internalized this technique.

Bonneville Communications, owned by the LDS church, employs technology called "HeartSell," which uses very low frequency sound waves to make you think you're feeling "The Spirit" :

"Our unique strength is the ability to touch the hearts and minds of our audiences, evoking first feeling, then thought and, finally, action. We call this uniquely powerful brand of creative "HeartSell"® - strategic emotional advertising that stimulates response." (See archived description from Bonneville Communications' website)

 

[Spasticus Autisticus]

Isn't tonight supposed to be Rekieta's Greer stream?

Looks like I was too hasty with the Optimistic rating.

 

[The Dude]

This may be reaching, but I've heard some ex-Mormons complain about a program of sorts that has been used in the Mormon community called HeartSell, which basically teaches you to manufacture emotion in order to convince people to do something. People have pointed out how the Mormon male co-owner of LuLaRoe (a pyramid scheme) uses HeartSell techniques, like crying, to manipulate his audience. I wonder if Russ has internalized this technique.

Bonneville Communications, owned by the LDS church, employs technology called "HeartSell," which uses very low frequency sound waves to make you think you're feeling "The Spirit" :
"Our unique strength is the ability to touch the hearts and minds of our audiences, evoking first feeling, then thought and, finally, action. We call this uniquely powerful brand of creative "HeartSell"® - strategic emotional advertising that stimulates response." (See archived description from Bonneville Communications' website)

I've never heard of HeartSell and it definitely isn't LDS doctrine. That doesn't mean there isn't some company owned or operated by LDS members or the Church itself that uses such tactics, but I've never heard of it and I doubt most average LDS members have either.

 

[ZeeMarin]

What page has Erika’s posts here, please?

 

[The Littlest Shitlord]

This may be reaching, but I've heard some ex-Mormons complain about a program of sorts that has been used in the Mormon community called HeartSell, which basically teaches you to manufacture emotion in order to convince people to do something. People have pointed out how the Mormon male co-owner of LuLaRoe (a pyramid scheme) uses HeartSell techniques, like crying, to manipulate his audience. I wonder if Russ has internalized this technique.

Bonneville Communications, owned by the LDS church, employs technology called "HeartSell," which uses very low frequency sound waves to make you think you're feeling "The Spirit" :
"Our unique strength is the ability to touch the hearts and minds of our audiences, evoking first feeling, then thought and, finally, action. We call this uniquely powerful brand of creative "HeartSell"® - strategic emotional advertising that stimulates response." (See archived description from Bonneville Communications' website)

That sounds too sophisticated for Russ to understand. And again, to echo what @The Dude said, I don't think most Mormons have even heard of it, even if the church does own it. Most Mormons have no idea just how many businesses the LDS church leadership owns, and I'm sure the leadership would like to keep it that way.

 

[Polexia Aphrodisia]

I've never heard of HeartSell and it definitely isn't LDS doctrine. That doesn't mean there isn't some company owned or operated by LDS members or the Church itself that uses such tactics, but I've never heard of it and I doubt most average LDS members have either.

While it's great to get your perspective on LDS culture and practices, Dude, just because something isn't in the doctrine doesn't mean it's not done.

You seem to get unreasonably irritated when people point out questionable practices which, while reportedly common with LDS communities, are not explicitly part of the doctrine. You've gotten quite up in arms regarding the "God's favorite idiot" thing or the possibility that Mormonism shaped Russell's misogynistic, patriarchal views.

It would be one thing if it was all just non-LDS people saying "Those Mormons, they love multiple wives, so Russell wants to bang multiple hookers" or something, but several accounts have come from people who were part of LDS communities or lived directly adjacent to them. Just because you haven't personally lived it, or just because you don't like it and don't want it to exist and be used in communities like yours, doesn't mean it's not out there.

Nobody's insulting your personal religion or saying you're a faggot for being LDS. Nobody's speculating on what you personally are teaching your children. But if all followers of all religions kept to what's "in the doctrine" only, the world would be one hell of a different place.

With how Russell still visibly clings to LDS tenets, moral codes, and old mission suits, you can't deny that some unsavory aspects of his local LDS community- whether or not they are explicitly in the Book of Mormon - helped polish his personality into the turd it is today.

 

[AnOminous]

I'm pretty sure the lawyers and judges in an area are all members of the local bar association and know each other, and might even play golf together on their off days. But yeah, Russ being pissed off while the real legal professionals were conducting business as usual was funny.

Russ's lawyer seemed to know the judge, and I know Skordas had a case with him just a week or so before Russ's. They all know each other.

A public defender probably could've tard wrangled him well enough to get him to accept the plea in abeyance.

Oh, so if he doesn't fuck up no conviction. Better than he deserves. I'd missed that term since I'd never seen it. It's like a stet or a nol pros.

 

[Kugelsak Kastengrus 6th]

You seem to get unreasonably irritated when people point out questionable practices which, while reportedly common with LDS communities, are not explicitly part of the doctrine. You've gotten quite up in arms regarding the "God's favorite idiot" thing or the possibility that Mormonism shaped Russell's misogynistic, patriarchal views.

Unless I'm mistaken, the whole "God's favorite idiot" thing is something that seems to be a joke @NipplelessWoman originally established with her family and has chosen to share it here. It really had nothing entirely to do with Mormonism, other than a belief held by only a few.

 

[Walking Clock]

I wonder of all the escorts he bugs on Instagram if any have ever tried to explain to him why what he wants isn't realistic, and if he's going to hire them, he needs to stick to his end of the deal, and not expect a real relationship. Of course he'd tune them out, but I wonder if anyone has ever tried.

I believe Rachel Starr the pornstar attempted to explain how things work to Russ. If I recall, Russ wanted to pay to her talk, and she told him to use an app like every other fan. Russ said he didn't the trust app and wanted to interact with her more personally, and she explained she has multimillionaires regularly paying for her time and Russ wasn't wealthy enough to break her rules over or even bother with.

 

[AnOminous]

Greer stream starting.

 

[The Dude]

While it's great to get your perspective on LDS culture and practices, Dude, just because something isn't in the doctrine doesn't mean it's not done.

You seem to get unreasonably irritated when people point out questionable practices which, while reportedly common with LDS communities, are not explicitly part of the doctrine. You've gotten quite up in arms regarding the "God's favorite idiot" thing or the possibility that Mormonism shaped Russell's misogynistic, patriarchal views.

It would be one thing if it was all just non-LDS people saying "Those Mormons, they love multiple wives, so Russell wants to bang multiple hookers" or something, but several accounts have come from people who were part of LDS communities or lived directly adjacent to them. Just because you haven't personally lived it, or just because you don't like it and don't want it to exist and be used in communities like yours, doesn't mean it's not out there.

Nobody's insulting your personal religion or saying you're a faggot for being LDS. Nobody's speculating on what you personally are teaching your children. But if all followers of all religions kept to what's "in the doctrine" only, the world would be one hell of a different place.

With how Russell still visibly clings to LDS tenets, moral codes, and old mission suits, you can't deny that some unsavory aspects of his local LDS community- whether or not they are explicitly in the Book of Mormon - helped polish his personality into the turd it is today.

As you said, I'm just offering my perspective as someone from the community to provide some context. In my last post I even said that it may be a tactic employed by a company owned by the Church or LDS members. All I was clarifying is it isn't doctrine or mainstream in the LDS faith/community. Calm your tits, bro. I'm not feeling attacked here, just engaging in the conversation. But if it's really making you THAT upset then I'll try to lay off a bit.