Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Cactuar King]

1: Chuck Wendig is getting MeToo'd as a rape enabler for not defending some lady he used to know because of some bullshit drama. Go to the Chuck Wendig thread or to @Itchy Bacca to learn more.

Oh no. How terrible.

 

[jspit]

Oh no. How terrible.

Just check in to see how Star Wars is burning.

See Chuck Wendig is at best a co rapist.

It truly is a great time to be alive.

Guess I'll postpone the cosmic shitpost until I'm certain the E;R chatter goes down.

Its what I've been saying from the beginning. Its even evident that Disney's version of the Galaxy hardly feels or looks like the same one we knew, so might as well have it take place centuries later to make the drastic difference make sense, but nope. From the get go in production since 2014, they wouldn't shut up about "living in the shadow of Luke and the rest" and how they needed to be surpassed instead of trying to be worthy of their legacies. Hence Luke being reduced to a coward who hides away for no reason just so Rey could use him to be her personal Yoda because Kennedy, Kasdan, Filoni, Hidalgo and JJ wanted to make it easier for Rey to surpass him, and for the rest of the new cast to surpass the old, by knocking them down a peg and making them easier to squash and move aside instead of trying to honor them as something like Legacy tried to do and being recognized by their predecessors for their own achievements. E;R said it best in that this shit was doomed from the minute they decided to make it a soft reboot in 2014 and trying to replace the original instead of being its own tale that was trying to honor and continue the legacy of what came before. E;R perfectly summed up the problem with Disney Wars since day fucking 1 way better than anyone else so far and I'm pleased with that.
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Anyway, in other news...

1: Chuck Wendig is getting MeToo'd as a rape enabler for not defending some lady he used to know because of some bullshit drama. Go to the Chuck Wendig thread or to @Itchy Bacca to learn more.

2: Disney Wars sites are shilling the new crappy Dr. Aphra audio book which is an "expansion of her comic misadventures with Vader". Thankfully it doesn't seem to be getting nearly as much attention as Squadrons... or Alphabet Squadron which has seen a slight uptick thanks to Squadrons tying in with it. Hopefully that wears off...

3: Since the Disney park shut down, Disney has been sitting on a shit load of unsold Galaxy's Edge merchandise (although it can be argued that they were sitting on it even before that) so to make up for losses, they'll be selling their crappy merch over at Target, which apparently includes a new line of merch that they were planning to release at GE to tie in with Plan IX. Among this shit is also the build-a-droid crap which includes a "make your own D-O" which they were also planning for the park but now have to settle for pushing at Target.

4: Disney is also making some sort of Galaxy's Edge VR shit to try and keep interest in it alive since nobody can go their overglorified shopping mall in real life.

I only bring this bit of news up because this might be the last we hear of the failure that is Galaxy's Edge for a long while. I doubt there will be any major news again until the Filonilorian Season 2 and Aladdin's Rebels Part 2 and I'm frankly sick of doing news shit again.

So wait, hol' up. She isn't dead yet? Darth Vader has zero patience. For any shit. Aphra clowning him doesn't make her look cool, it makes him look like a punk bitch. Disney can't go bankrupt fast enough

 

[Adamska]

So wait, hol' up. She isn't dead yet? Darth Vader has zero patience. For any shit. Aphra clowning him doesn't make her look cool, it makes him look like a punk bitch. Disney can't go bankrupt fast enough

And yet despite the "fan love" which I can now happily state are fucking bot nets, she is a literal who.

Like, the fucking evil Volcano is more acknowledged than her.

 

[Creep3r]

So wait, hol' up. She isn't dead yet? Darth Vader has zero patience. For any shit. Aphra clowning him doesn't make her look cool, it makes him look like a punk bitch. Disney can't go bankrupt fast enough

Bitch has the ultimate Marvel plot armor. If she wasn't bad enough, they had her briefly grovel to Vader only for Disney to have her punk Vader instead via a magic trap from out of nowhere then hacked his brain. And she also found out about his childhood and joked about it.

And yet despite the "fan love" which I can now happily state are fucking bot nets, she is a literal who.

Like, the fucking evil Volcano is more acknowledged than her.

True dat. But even so, its a sickening thought to realize that out of the dozens of twitter bots shilling for her, that she so much as has a handful of actual fans out there willing to shill and waste time drawing gifs of her that would give even E;R a seizure. Fans who probably look and sound as creepy as this guy:

Your standard Wookieepedo editor folks. Also only 10 likes and 200 views. Probably the whole of the dedicated Aphra community.

 

[Adamska]

What's actually sickening is that Disney would rather waste its money pretending its profitable to its investors rather than actually make genuine works. They put money into botnets, shills, review sites run by former alumni or random whos, bought seats to fake popularity, gave seats out at a loss. They refuse to make anything that actually could sell, because the staffers are retards who think their fanfictions for themselves or their cult is all they need. The only reason they aren't Chapter 11'ed right now is a false sense of holdings and value.

I've known ponzi schemes and MLMs that put more effort into their business than these bozos.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Thing is, Disney isn't going to last much longer since they're taking billions of dollars in losses with all their parks closed and the theaters closed as well. Buying Fox left them with a ton of debt and Star Wars is underperforming (outside of TFA) and overbudget (like Plan IX), let alone shit like Galaxy's Edge which flushed billions of dollars. Their only business strategy has been "pump out Mahvel and live-action remakes" but they can't rely on that forever.

I think it's a scheme to inflate their value for whoever buys them.

 

[jspit]

Thing is, Disney isn't going to last much longer since they're taking billions of dollars in losses with all their parks closed and the theaters closed as well. Buying Fox left them with a ton of debt and Star Wars is underperforming (outside of TFA) and overbudget (like Plan IX), let alone shit like Galaxy's Edge which flushed billions of dollars. Their only business strategy has been "pump out Mahvel and live-action remakes" but they can't rely on that forever.

I think it's a scheme to inflate their value for whoever buys them.

Disney will make it. I've figured out how they survive this. They'll either get some silicone valley investors purchasing stock with an eye for a coup or alternatively they'll struggle over the next couple of years on a string and a prayer. They'll fudge their books with years of lobbying giving them room to breath from serious investigation. Then the economy will bounce, the current crisis will end, and the theme parks will do gangbusters again.

The only question is whether they have to disgorge any of Bob Iger's ill gotten gains to make it there. I doubt it. Its more likely rather than sell off property they don't use and let lay fallow they'll get a nice bit of government aide, both directly and thru generous tax cuts.

 

[Chilson]

Disney will make it. I've figured out how they survive this. They'll either get some silicone valley investors purchasing stock with an eye for a coup or alternatively they'll struggle over the next couple of years on a string and a prayer. They'll fudge their books with years of lobbying giving them room to breath from serious investigation. Then the economy will bounce, the current crisis will end, and the theme parks will do gangbusters again.

The only question is whether they have to disgorge any of Bob Iger's ill gotten gains to make it there. I doubt it. Its more likely rather than sell off property they don't use and let lay fallow they'll get a nice bit of government aide, both directly and thru generous tax cuts.

That's not really surviving. At least if we think about it from a current Disney administration sense. Current Disney execs/leadership are fucked, they are going to eventually lose out on some IP's just to survive and once this is all over the new execs/leaders will be in charge. Disney will absolutely survive, they are simply to big a brand name not to, but they will be in a very different creature from what we know right now.

 

[HandsomeDan]

I watched the E;R video today it was good as is to be expected but as I watched it I felt like the ST films were made 30 years ago, as in "old news". They are such trash that at this point they are really forgettable, I actually really despise them more now that I veiw them as one of the milestones in the saga of destroying everything I care about that the left has going right now, but they are such a lazy, cheap and failure on every level that I am at the point that I would rather not dignify them with comment.

 

[Notgoodwithusernames]

Bitch has the ultimate Marvel plot armor. If she wasn't bad enough, they had her briefly grovel to Vader only for Disney to have her punk Vader instead via a magic trap from out of nowhere then hacked his brain. And she also found out about his childhood and joked about it.

True dat. But even so, its a sickening thought to realize that out of the dozens of twitter bots shilling for her, that she so much as has a handful of actual fans out there willing to shill and waste time drawing gifs of her that would give even E;R a seizure. Fans who probably look and sound as creepy as this guy:

Your standard Wookieepedo editor folks. Also only 10 likes and 200 views. Probably the whole of the dedicated Aphra community.

That defeat becomes even worse when you remember that Darth Vader is a fucking mechanic and should know how to implement countermeasures against this.

Also on Filoni retconning Greivous’s past I have a way to reconcile the two backstories; In the new essential guide to droid’s entry on general Greivous, it’s mentioned during the operation the Geonosians altered his brain chemistry to make him more aggressive. It’s possible the Geonosians could’ve altered his memories to make him think he chose the cybernetics. Even still this is a case of Filoni getting lucky. There are far far more egregious contradictions that are even harder to reconcile

 

[Syaoran Li]

Disney will make it. I've figured out how they survive this. They'll either get some silicone valley investors purchasing stock with an eye for a coup or alternatively they'll struggle over the next couple of years on a string and a prayer. They'll fudge their books with years of lobbying giving them room to breath from serious investigation. Then the economy will bounce, the current crisis will end, and the theme parks will do gangbusters again.

The only question is whether they have to disgorge any of Bob Iger's ill gotten gains to make it there. I doubt it. Its more likely rather than sell off property they don't use and let lay fallow they'll get a nice bit of government aide, both directly and thru generous tax cuts.

I do think Disney will sell off some of their IP's they bought up over the years, but I doubt any of Iger's conquests will be on the chopping block unless things get truly dire for them.

I can definitely see Disney selling off History Channel and A&E, and maybe even the Touchstone Pictures film library if it gets really bad.

But Marvel, Star Wars, and Fox were the crown jewel conquests for Disney in the 2010's and will likely be seen as symbols of the wealth and power of Disney in the Iger era.

At most, I could see Star Wars being sold if we get more spin-offs bombing badly enough in the near future. Even then, it's highly unlikely.

The buyout of Marvel was the first of Iger's conquests and also the one that was most successful for them. As much as I hate the MCU and found it overrated from day one, it is the most effective weapon in the Disney arsenal and pretty much the defining film franchise of the 2010's.

Disney would never give up Marvel in a million years. At the most they'd shut down the comics division for good and keep the IP's for film and television (and merchandising too)

To put it in a way that fits this thread, Disney is the evil Galactic Empire of the entertainment industry and the MCU is their Death Star,

The Fox buyout, despite being so expensive, also gives Disney a slew of beloved IP's to work with. There's a reason why one of the launch titles for Disney+ is The Simpsons in its entirety, after all.

 

[Creep3r]

I do think Disney will sell off some of their IP's they bought up over the years, but I doubt any of Iger's conquests will be on the chopping block unless things get truly dire for them.

I can definitely see Disney selling off History Channel and A&E, and maybe even the Touchstone Pictures film library if it gets really bad.

But Marvel, Star Wars, and Fox were the crown jewel conquests for Disney in the 2010's and will likely be seen as symbols of the wealth and power of Disney in the Iger era.

At most, I could see Star Wars being sold if we get more spin-offs bombing badly enough in the near future. Even then, it's highly unlikely.

The buyout of Marvel was the first of Iger's conquests and also the one that was most successful for them. As much as I hate the MCU and found it overrated from day one, it is the most effective weapon in the Disney arsenal and pretty much the defining film franchise of the 2010's.

Disney would never give up Marvel in a million years. At the most they'd shut down the comics division for good and keep the IP's for film and television (and merchandising too)

To put it in a way that fits this thread, Disney is the evil Galactic Empire of the entertainment industry and the MCU is their Death Star,

The Fox buyout, despite being so expensive, also gives Disney a slew of beloved IP's to work with. There's a reason why one of the launch titles for Disney+ is The Simpsons in its entirety, after all.

Pretty much. Marvel is never getting sold. However, Star Wars has the potential for it, but only if it continues to be unprofitable, and with the recent bad luck with the parks, the films, multimedia and most especially Galaxy's Edge (that last one is almost a 5 billion dollar loss, and even more so now due to the Corona shutdown losing them almost 50% of Disney profits via the parks) SW has the potential to be sold, but Disney won't do it unless really pressured to because its not just about conquest, its about preserving a certain image among investors and shareholders. To sell SW would deal a tremendous blow to their stocks and damage the trust they have with their gullible out of touch investors who believe anything they shit out during financial reports because they only think in numbers, but then there's the possibility that based on current overall opinion that SW is a "cursed" brand, they could twist its sell into a positive by claiming that the brand itself just isn't profitable like they've been doing so far and pin all of the blame on the IP and "burnout" to avoid any personal faults and thus maintain their image within the eyes of the investors through planned out deception. FOX however is another matter. Aside from The Simpsons and a few rare exceptions, Disney has already said that they've locked away a lot of those IPs and can't really do much with them thanks to the overbearing copyright fuckery still going on. So I doubt Disney will ever sell off FOX since that would be an even bigger blow to their finances, but I can see them selling off some of its IPs one by one since FOX is technically the primary cause of their major debts right now and is probably fucking up their coffers royally. But overall, yes, Disney is more likely to sell TV channels and lesser assets they own first, but the only big one they'd be willing to risk selling is SW, which was debatable from the get-go, but if the parks continue to remain closed and GE unpopular, then there's really not even a fucking Cinematic Filoniverse can do for them.

Also reposting this to show how much they got to sell off.

Only thing we would have to be concerned with is if the cucks in congress (doesn't matter who since they're all in Disney's pockets as we saw after that Steamboat Willie fiasco) decide to throw the mouse a bone and keep them alive. At which point we can safely say everything is fucked, unless they finally look into their pants, find their balls, and realize that they stand to gain nothing from this in the long run except extend the longevity of an outdated cultural icon whose only true worth is managing oversized kiddy parks for tots and manchildren.

 

[Dixieland Buckaroo]

We almost had a partial tell all by JW Rinzler but Disney shut down his blog.

https://disneystarwarsisdumb.wordpress.com/2020/06/07/j-w-rinzler-needs-a-publisher/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2r3Oxbe8FU

Rinzler was scheduled to do a Making of TFA book. It was never officially cancelled and disappeared from online retailers around the time Rogue One came out. One can only assume this is partly why the work is done, he was likely there from the GL days and lasted until something happened.

 

[Kane Lives]

The Fox buyout, despite being so expensive, also gives Disney a slew of beloved IP's to work with. There's a reason why one of the launch titles for Disney+ is The Simpsons in its entirety, after all.

Is it bad I read this as "a new slew of beloved IP to rape"?

Yeah, the Rat ain't gonna respect any of them.

 

[Kenobi]

Watching some tRoS hate videos. It strikes me just how cargo cult Disney Wars is: they didn't have a plan for the trilogy.

I know we keep saying that, but really think about it a minute. George had a vague notion of a story, but he had no plan for a trilogy originally, the OT was definitely made up as it went along.

You can tell Disney thought they could just replicate that "fly by the seat of our pants" storytelling and make easy money.

But George Lucas? He had no idea that his movie was going to have any success. He made a story, then thought "well if I only got to make 1, what would it be?" and picked out the segment that would be the best of his options. By contrast Disney went into this brier patch with 3 movies guaranteed. The only way they couldn't get all 3 movies to theaters would be if every ticket sold for the first one gave people stage 3 cancer AND impotence. Heck they talked about doing yearly films from the start. And they STILL didn't plan it. EVEN THOUGH 2 years to make a movie is really tight schedule wise - especially if it's big budget. (For example: the first transformer film was 4-7 years to make depending on how you want to start the clock)

Know something I've learned watching a lot of GoodBadFlicks and SFDebris talking about film backgrounds? That the development time is a REAL good indicator of the quality. The shorter the time they have to make it, the worse it's going to be (the exceptions are notable because they are exceptions - and they're also usually done by VERY experienced people who know their craft well). Yes you can have a film go too long and end up in development hell too (the opposite end of the scale, where the movies suck again). But great movies always seem to have a history of steady, consistent work on the project from start to finish to really polish it.

ANY project manager worth a shit would have absolutely worked out a plan. They should have loaded as much work as they could in the front end since there would be such a crunch in the back. Hell they should have all but filmed all 3 movies in a row. At the very lease, when the first film is wrapping up, the 2nd film should have been starting secondary filming while the 3rd movie is finalizing its script.

Nah, let's wing it just like George did - even though he put 3 years in between each movie.

No plan. Absolutely none whatsoever.

This is almost as dumb as alphabet squadron.

I want a brutally honest tell all book of Disney wars - it will be the most entertaining thing they ever did.

Honestly it should be an epic tale of financial failure that should be told for generations to come. But their ego got to them instead of putting in the work and dedication instead they relied on the gulibilty of star wars fans and a marvel style cookie cutter formula. They belived it would sell and be praised as the saviors of the franchise

and honestly why wouldn´t they?
Every Man/boy thats in the 10-50s range (in the west) dreamed of one day working on star wars.
If you just look at how people reacted around 2012ish people were fucking stoaked to see new star wars movies, people were legit hopeful of disney buying the franchise lording them as saviors. Hell even my oldman that dosn´t give a rats ass about pop culture crap was excited to have new star wars movies.
People were buying everything that was even related to star wars.

They could have utilized the best scifi writers and directors known to man to plan an epic arc. But no lets go with the "safe" one trick pony choice jarjar abrahms the guy known for creating mediocre remakes of cult classics. A guy that wasn´t even a fucking fan of star wars.

Get a good author who respects the universe to do a plot and structure. Get a screenwriter to refine the dialog.
Worst part is just 2 years prior they had people writing good fucking books that fans liked.
The kenobi novel comes to mind.
Instead we get the modern media curse were craptastic authors and directors use beloved media to express their fetishes and political virtue signaling. KK and abrahms fetish material prancing around humiliating and killing original characters we liked.

 

[XYZpdq]

I don't even think the idea of doing the Marvel approach wasn't even the problem, it was that Marvel had plans about what they were doing.

Hell, I still remember the arithmetic going into the sequels of "guy who made a Star Trek movie that was too Star Wars plus studio that made that Thor movie that was too Star Wars should equal at least competent Star Wars as long as they have some plans behind it."

 

[Ghostse]

Pretty much. Marvel is never getting sold. However, Star Wars has the potential for it, but only if it continues to be unprofitable, and with the recent bad luck with the parks, the films, multimedia and most especially Galaxy's Edge (that last one is almost a 5 billion dollar loss, and even more so now due to the Corona shutdown losing them almost 50% of Disney profits via the parks) SW has the potential to be sold, but Disney won't do it unless really pressured to because its not just about conquest, its about preserving a certain image among investors and shareholders. To sell SW would deal a tremendous blow to their stocks and damage the trust they have with their gullible out of touch investors who believe anything they shit out during financial reports because they only think in numbers, but then there's the possibility that based on current overall opinion that SW is a "cursed" brand, they could twist its sell into a positive by claiming that the brand itself just isn't profitable like they've been doing so far and pin all of the blame on the IP and "burnout" to avoid any personal faults and thus maintain their image within the eyes of the investors through planned out deception. FOX however is another matter. Aside from The Simpsons and a few rare exceptions, Disney has already said that they've locked away a lot of those IPs and can't really do much with them thanks to the overbearing copyright fuckery still going on. So I doubt Disney will ever sell off FOX since that would be an even bigger blow to their finances, but I can see them selling off some of its IPs one by one since FOX is technically the primary cause of their major debts right now and is probably fucking up their coffers royally. But overall, yes, Disney is more likely to sell TV channels and lesser assets they own first, but the only big one they'd be willing to risk selling is SW, which was debatable from the get-go, but if the parks continue to remain closed and GE unpopular, then there's really not even a fucking Cinematic Filoniverse can do for them.

Also reposting this to show how much they got to sell off.
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Only thing we would have to be concerned with is if the cucks in congress (doesn't matter who since they're all in Disney's pockets as we saw after that Steamboat Willie fiasco) decide to throw the mouse a bone and keep them alive. At which point we can safely say everything is fucked, unless they finally look into their pants, find their balls, and realize that they stand to gain nothing from this in the long run except extend the longevity of an outdated cultural icon whose only true worth is managing oversized kiddy parks for tots and manchildren.

They don't even need to get Congress to throw them a bone, just the California and/or Florida state apartati; likely California as they own majorities in both houses.


Also sorry if late but speaking of the impending collapse of Galaxy's Edge, Lego has dropped details of new sets

From the concept art, I believe the I-TS transport would be the Galaxy's Edge over priced and mostly empty hotel, but you don't have to wait for it to never open to live the disappointment for yourself. The set features a literally-who's-literally-who? of Woke War's Excreted Universe.

Who could remember the Black-and-blue asexual? Or Grey Ackbar? BLM-R2 looking lookin dapper, and there's his famous counter-part, enough-bricks-to-make-a-green box-three-P-O. They crew the Resistance I-TS transport USS Donut Steel, made famous as showing up for like 3 frames in the last movie. And maybe we'll make them shoehorn it into the Mandalorian or Clone Wars, but don't count on it.

In addition to minifigs for all your least favorite characters, you'll find TONS of features that will help you recall the fun you had on your trip on the HMS Just Differnt Enough To Avoid Paying Royalties To Lucas. Like the "featureless compartment amdships" and "grey crate". and cannons that really fire.

So if you've got $100 dollars to waste, you can disappoint and confuse your little Star Wars Fan this Christmas.

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Disney Star Wars: Because physically abusing your children is illegal.

 

[Miller]

So if you've got $100 dollars to waste, you can disappoint and confuse your little Star Wars Fan this Christmas.

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I like how the hatch opens next to the turbines. At least it looks like a ship from the Star Wars universe, unlike the Chinook flying sideways:

 

[Cactuar King]

I like how the hatch opens next to the turbines. At least it looks like a ship from the Star Wars universe, unlike the Chinook flying sideways:

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Making your troops run headfirst into a hail of blasterfire. Real smart.

 

[Akumaten]

Only thing we would have to be concerned with is if the cucks in congress (doesn't matter who since they're all in Disney's pockets as we saw after that Steamboat Willie fiasco)

Can someone fill me in on that one?