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Interesting week at work so far. Most people I'm working with are not wearing masks, or are wearing them around their chins. Most I talk to are of the same opinion: The uptick in cases is from vastly increased testing availability catching more mild cases instead of only severe cases, and that the babies out rioting are responsible for spreading the disease to different places.

This is in a very blue industry in a blue area. People from all across the political spectrum distrust both the media and the government. It really seems the media narrative is totally failing to catch most people. They are over it, and only wear a mask to avoid getting in trouble.

Notably a lot of people are wearing them around their chins and not being told off by the higher ups. Only 2 guys are taking the masks seriously out of everyone Ive seen, one of which is a known shit stirrer that is an expert in doublethink.
 
This area is a very, very "blue" area. The vast majority seemingly blindly accept any line of bullshit "they" spew. It's as if they'd all been neutered, just about everyone but me, least in the places I visited. Not including employees here, just patrons. Utterly disgusting. Once again realized I have almost nothing in common with the "sheep". Have family members moving out of CA soon. Just sorry I can't go with them.

I think quite a few people are scared and willing to wear the mask on the off chance it stops them from getting the virus. I can't entirely blame people for being concerned, because it remains to be seen whether this latest uptick in cases results in a massively increased number of deaths and/or severe hospitalizations. I don't even know what numbers to trust anymore. There's so much damn noise it feels impossible to get a clear enough picture to dispel the latent anxiety that all the panic porn causes.
 
Good article from Reason about the problems in contact tracing. Why would anyone in their right mind respond to a call from a contact tracer? I would never respond, and would block the number. Absolutely no upside in it. They could take you from your home and incarcerate you in a "quarantine facility". The people no longer have any trust or credibility in anything the government says.


 
Good article from Reason about the problems in contact tracing.

Beyond me how in the fuck anyone thinks it makes sense to play whack-a-mole with a third of a billion people. Maybe they should have considered having a super strict lockdown for two weeks at the end of March and doing this shit back then. They say they need 75% compliance within 24 hours - they're lucky they don't get 75% "go fuck yourself" within 24 seconds.
 
Beyond me how in the fuck anyone thinks it makes sense to play whack-a-mole with a third of a billion people. Maybe they should have considered having a super strict lockdown for two weeks at the end of March and doing this shit back then. They say they need 75% compliance within 24 hours - they're lucky they don't get 75% "go fuck yourself" within 24 seconds.
Good luck keeping Americans locked up. Americans aren’t as autistic as Germans. We are not good with authoritah.
 
Saying that if you are Rich girls let you touch their no no parts is not being a sexual predator, and is information everyone has known since the dawn of time so nobody sensible cared about the bus comments.

This. It's like the concept of gold digging whores is just so far outside of the magic perfect widdle girls wot never do nuffin' wrong image of femininity that they have in their minds that the left just can't even conceive of it.
 
This is going around Facebook:

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All I'm seeing here is "don't cough or sneeze on people," which no shit.
 
This is going around Facebook:

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All I'm seeing here is "don't cough or sneeze on people," which no shit.

Conveniently leaving out the fact that viruses are significantly smaller than bacteria, which, y'know, is pretty relevant considering the masks are supposed to be stopping a virus and all. But hey, details!
 
The Swedish Transport Agency scandal 2017 – Ygeman couldn't find a meeting room
The Swedish Corona circus 2020 – Hallengren doesn't remember the meeting http://archive.md/C3x3X
The government was supposed to practice – didn't discuss nursing homes
Already in early March, Social Minister Lena Hallengren, S, and the Public Health Authority would practice how to prevent the infection from spreading.
But the important point about the risks for the elderly is never discussed, Expressen can reveal.
Hallengren does not remember the meeting.
Thousands of elderly people have died in the suites after the corona in the spring.

The government has on several occasions repeated that it is a failure that so many people have died in the homes of the elderly.
- What I think is a big problem is that we have so many people who have died in our elderly homes. It has nothing to do with the strategy, Stefan Löfven said in an interview in Agenda in SVT on June 14.
But as early as March 4, one week before the first Swedish death and two weeks before the deaths began on elderly housing, the issue of the risk of contagion in elderly housing was at the table of Social Minister Lena Hallengren.

That day, the Minister of Social Affairs had invited the Public Health Authority and the National Board of Health for an exercise.
The scenarios that were practiced during a two-hour meeting on March 4 ranged from "continued as now", "several cases in Sweden but no extensive spread of infection", "extensive spread of infection in Sweden and" full scale pandemic ".

The meeting invitation, which was sent out on February 26, was entitled "Practice scenario covid-19, March 4". On the agenda for the meeting, risks for elderly residents had their own point along with corresponding risks in the school, according to e-mail conversations between the Government Offices and the Public Health Authority, as well as a memorandum for a meeting at the Government Offices on March 4, which Expressen took note of.

But even though risks for the elderly were on the agenda, it was not discussed at the meeting, according to state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell.

Nor were risks and potential scenarios discussed if covid-19 were to be established in vulnerable areas.
- We did not discuss either the suburb or the elderly, what we discussed was primarily healthcare, says Anders Tegnell.
The meeting was almost exclusively about ensuring that healthcare would cope with the pandemic, despite the fact that responsibility for healthcare lies with the regions.

The National Board of Health was later commissioned to coordinate and scale up the number of intensive care units.
Responsibility for housing for the elderly rests with the municipalities, but would also have been discussed at the meeting, according to a memorandum written by the secretary of the ministry, Kim Brolin.
But unlike the health care, the government did not take the same responsibility for the elderly. It was not until almost a month after the first scenario meeting that a visitor ban on elderly housing was introduced.
Are you surprised that no measures were taken for the elderly?
- We are not responsible for that. We generate information for society as a whole, says Tegnell.

Confusion about who is in charge
Prior to the March 4 meeting, confusion prevailed over who was responsible for developing the basis for various scenarios to practice. The Public Health Authority believed that the government should stand for it.
On February 27, Britta Björkholm, Head of Department at the Public Health Authority, announced that she, Anders Tegnell and Head of Department Karin Tegmark Wisell are happy to participate in the meeting.
"The top of the basis for the exercise would be sent out a little in advance, so we have time to prepare," she writes in the same e-mail.
But no evidence exists. Kim Brolin replies:
"The idea is that the evidence comes from you, ie exercises based on your panda plans."

Hallengren does not remember the exercises
When Expressen reaches the Minister of Social Affairs, she says that she does not remember the meeting on March 4, the first where the Public Health Authority, representatives of the government and the National Board of Health would practice scenarios, and which she invited to.

Did you talk about risks in the elderly before the pandemic broke out in Sweden?
- You cannot refer to a meeting on March 4. We have had so many meetings. You get to talk to Sofia (Brändström, Prime Minister's Press Secretary).
Did you have so many meetings where you practiced scenarios before the pandemic?
- I have no comment on that.
There are no submitted documents from the meeting and no meeting notes are recorded in the Ministry of Social Affairs.
"The meeting was therefore about different scenarios regarding the spread of the corona virus, besides this we do not go into what was discussed in detail at the meeting," writes press secretary Jasmina Sofic to Expressen.
The public health authority has secretly stamped the various scenarios.
THE SCENARIOS ARE CLASSIFIED
The public health authority's basis on which the Swedish strategy is based has been covered with confidentiality. The scenarios are not disclosed with reference to defense confidentiality in public and private law.
This means that the authority believes that the information, if disclosed, could jeopardize the security of the state.
Bloody Danes http://archive.md/wip/3RHtB
Study: Danes have brought infection to Sweden

Danes have, with a high probability, spread corona disease to Sweden.
Researchers at the University of Copenhagen have found this in a recent study, reports Danish media.
- It is obvious that the mutation occurred in Denmark and then spread, says researcher Matthias Christandl, to the Ritzau news agency.

The researchers at the University of Copenhagen have a mathematical background and have developed a kind of family tree about how the corona virus spread between people.
As previously thought, the researchers found that the infection came to Denmark from ski travelers who have been to Ischgl in Austria.
But the Danes have also very likely passed the infection on to other countries - including Sweden, but also Latvia and Iceland.
- We can see that the type of mutation that is very common in Denmark appears in Iceland, Sweden and Latvia. It is obvious that the mutation occurred in Denmark and then spread, says researcher Matthias Christandl, to the Ritzau news agency.
The study result must be seen by external experts before it is scientifically recognized.
Analyzing DNA
The Danish researchers have analyzed DNA in approximately 700 Danish and 30,000 international corona samples. The DNA can show how the virus has mutated, changed, when it jumps from person to person.
- We hope, of course, that it can help to understand how the virus spreads. If two people have completely different virus genomes, it is likely that they have not infected each other. In this way you can supplement the contact tracking, says Matthias Christandl to Ritzau.
The Danish government, headed by Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen (S), has kept the border closed to Swedes since mid-March.
During the weekend there was great confusion about whether Swedes are allowed to enter Denmark or not. In practice, the border was only open to southern Swedes for a few hours on Saturday. Then came the message that a negative covid test is required to enter the country.
"At least you can say that we have been confused," said Helsingör's mayor Benedikte Kiær.
 
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Conveniently leaving out the fact that viruses are significantly smaller than bacteria, which, y'know, is pretty relevant considering the masks are supposed to be stopping a virus and all. But hey, details!

The n95 and KN95 chinese masks will stop the virus. Everything else is completely ineffective. The kn95 is just a n95 knockoff but it still works.

I have both but a huge downside is it's really difficult to breathe after a few minutes. Really taxes the lungs to the point I've heard people pass out.

It's a joke at this stage in the pandemic we still dont have capacity to manufacture enough masks. I bought mine on alibaba they came with certifications and testing and were on the FDA approved list of manufacturers. 3m has a 6 month backorder.

The cloth and surgical masks are no good
 
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WASHINGTON, D.C. -- As coronavirus infections are spiking in U.S. states that previously had not been hard-hit, a new high of 65% of U.S. adults say the coronavirus situation is getting worse. The percentage of Americans who believe the situation is getting worse has increased from 48% the preceding week, and from 37% two weeks prior.

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