The Last of Us Franchise - Because it's apparently a franchise now. This thread has been double-DMCA’d by Sony Interactive Entertainment.

Dopey Cunt said:
I have to get this off my chest because it's been sitting there a while since I finished watching this shit pile of a game and that's the character of Mel in this trashfire.

Mel has got to be one of the most if not THE MOST retarded fucking bitch in this game and mind you, there are a lot of dumb fucking choices that are made by a lot of dumb fucking characters here.

Mel is the pregnant broad that's supposed to be Dina's counterpart of the annoying bitch in the group on Abby's side of the story. She appears seemingly out of nowhere, very obviously pregnant and showing and her first lines of dialogue are of her talking about how she wants to go out in the front lines despite being pregnant. Abby and Manny are with her and what do they do when a pregnant woman says something so fucking utterly stupid like that? They just...let her go. Oh cool, you want to risk your baby's life on top of yours too? Aight, coo. Neither Abby or Manny have ANY kind of reservations about letting a very pregnant woman go out into the frontlines. They have plenty of able-bodied people but no, let's let the pregnant bitch come out with us into danger, that makes a lot of fucking sense.

Then she goes out with you and you can see her dive roll and getting shot at and you the player watch this pregnant npc act like an action hero despite the fact that she's...you know FUCKING PREGNANT. Apparently Mel was endowed with the power of the Gods if she's able to act like she's in a Michael Bay movie while she's pregnant but meanwhile Dina's bitch ass is having complications and she needs to go back to Jackson for treatment??? I mean, with how little Mel seems to show any sort of maternal care for her unborn baby, you'd think that she might as well have just jumped off of an elevated area and land on her stomach to self abort the baby she apparently doesn't give a shit about losing.

And another thing...that scene where she gets shanked in the throat. You'd think...that a woman who doesn't want to die and who is also very pregnant may think to maybe fucking mention the fact that she is pregnant so that she doesn't get killed? In that retarded scene she is held at gun point for so long but never once does she say anything along the lines of "Please don't, I'm pregnant. I'll tell you what you want to know just don't hurt me or my baby." No, instead she sits there without a word and even has the audacity to fucking attack Ellie with a knife. Not her or fucking Owen say anything about her pregnancy which could have saved both of their lives. The devs just force the characters to completely forget the fact that Mel is pregnant just to force a scene in which Ellie kills a pregnant broad for the YOU GUESSED IT, shock value. Just like they did with Joel in order to make his death happen, they completely lobotomized the characters in all the scenes that Mel is in. What the fuck was the point of making her pregnant if everyone is just going to fucking pretend like she isn't? Again, she was just given a hamfisted pregnancy so that when her inevitable death scene came up, Druckmann could sit there and say "Oh look, Ellie killed a pregnant woman. Look how disturbed about it she is. Look how GRIMDARK it is. Aren't I the best at telling stories???" I guess Druckmann not only hates the straight males in this game, he also hates the women with a passion too because he went out of his way to give them all the collective intelligence of a fucking grain of sand.
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Bear in mind, Mel is not only pregnant, she's visibly pregnant. Pregnant enough that doing any kind of strenuous work would be dangerous for her and the baby. (Miscarriages are capable of killing the mother along with the baby, so any kind of serious injury could be a 2 for 1 Death Sale.) Niel "I have no idea how reality works" Druckman put Mel into the game so he could push a "Women should have total control of their own bodies and fetuses at all times no matter what" pro-abortion message. Never mind the fact that everyone in the entire group should be looking forward to the pregnancy with almost religious anticipation, and that there should be at least a dozen cooler heads trying to talk Mel out of going on her dangerous mission. Babies are the FUTURE. Without babies and fertile women, a group has no future. It can sustain the loss of several of its men, but it can't let it's female population drop past a certain level. Women's eggs and fertile wombs are the most valuable asset any marginalized civilization has and any population that doesn't protect them at all costs will not be around in 50-100 years. They will either die off or be subsumed by a group that does recognize the importance of female fertility.

Neil, if you're out there, pick up a book and read about The Rape of the Sabine Women sometime. I know the word "rape" will trigger you, but the story is about a nascent town on the brink of disaster that decides to kidnap the women of the surrounding tribes and wife them up so that they won't die out. Reading this, you'll learn just how far people on the margins are willing to go to protect their women and prevent them from becoming the assets of a competing civilization.

(I will admit, a post-apocalypse story about a bunch of progressive people fighting to maintain their progressive values in a world that can no longer sustain them would make for good drama. But such an honest exploration and critique of Progressivism would be far too triggering for people like Niel who are convinced that they'll always be on the Right Side of History, and that it will always be possible to toss thin 17 year old girls into front line battles and have them hold their own like seasoned Marines. )
 
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Pokemonquistador2 said:
(I will admit, a post-apocalypse story about a bunch of progressive people fighting to maintain their progressive values in a world that can no longer sustain them would make for good drama. But such an honest exploration and critique of Progressivism would be far too triggering for people like Niel who are convinced that they'll always be on the Right Side of History, and that it will always be possible to toss thin 17 year old girls into front line battles and have them hold their own like seasoned Marines. )
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In a post apocalyptic world where civilization is indeed on the brink of dying out and going extinct, progressive views don't mean shit. In this world, no one could give any less of a flying fuck if you identify as a man or woman or whateverthefuck. They don't care about deadnames or retarded pronouns or hamfisted preachy bullshit you see in the game. They care about surviving. Because at the end of the day, all that means jack shit if you're dead. No one is gonna ask you what pronouns you want them to call you before they disembowel you.
 
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The handsome tard said:
I find it hilarious the media praised the "gangbuster numbers" the game was selling in its first week but then remains completely silent on its colossal drop of sale and also colossal increase of used copies everywhere. Cant say Im surprised but its interesting how, be it SW or TLOU or whatever, their narrative is literally a mad libs game.
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I think this game is ultimately going to be about on par with Death Stranding in terms of sales. Death Stranding started getting a lot of cope headlines about their record breaking sales in highly specific regions and circumstances shortly after the game launched, and it looked like it was going to be a flop; it apparently ultimately made enough to turn a profit, but it took quite a while.
 
DrearyDoomguy said:
I think this game is ultimately going to be about on par with Death Stranding in terms of sales. Death Stranding started getting a lot of cope headlines about their record breaking sales in highly specific regions and circumstances shortly after the game launched, and it looked like it was going to be a flop; it apparently ultimately made enough to turn a profit, but it took quite a while.
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Nah, Death Stranding even at its worst didn't gather this much hatred and social outrage. Death Stranding is an acquired taste game ultimately, TLOU part 2 is a game that either pisses you off or even if it doesn't, it leaves you feeling empty inside and knowing this doesn't compare to the original at all.

Death Stranding didnt cause a streamer so much frustration and anguish that they removed the game from the console and visually destroyed the disc on live.

There are those who legit enjoy the game while I still cant find someone who loves Part 2 unless focusing specifically on graphics or gameplay.

Besides, DS didnt relay on appealing to woke journalists as much as ND did. People are sick and tired of being told what they can or not like because some dickless idiot online said so.

In the end, DS is a bad game at worst and an acquired taste at best. Kojima games aren't calling us names for having problems with it (if anything they are throwing sick burns at ND fanboys). They have my respect on that aspect.

ND did something much much worse...

And now the backlash will also be much much worse...
 
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Aurora said:
You have to pay for shipping, manufaturing, and encoding on disks. Digital is instant, easier to safeguard, and is the same price for the consumer as a physical copy.
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Ponderous Pillock said:
Of the $60, Sony gets $27 on physical sales, and rises to the full $60 on digital sales. (Hence all the consoles and publishers trying, and failing, to make their own platforms a few years ago).
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For sales, profit and loss analysis sony will absolutely not be counting their standard 30% cut of every sale on PS4 towards the games success. They get that money off every game anyone makes and it's a huge opportunity cost to choke out other game releases with a massive non-performer. Profit from physical sales is more like $13-15, for digital they're probably getting around $40 once you take the platform cut and various other royalties and licences. They wont be getting any kind of special pass because they're owned by Sony. Even the inhouse sony advertising, giving them front pages on PSN store and prominent positioning will be calculated into how successful they consider it internally
 
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Mel going out in the frontlines it's probably the most absurd thing in TLOU 2, and yet again, it's probably another female empowerment, anti-ableist message by Cuckmann, telling us pregnant women are just as able to do things as men or non-pregnant women, which is absurd.
 
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Blitzkrieger said:
Mel going out in the frontlines it's probably the most absurd thing in TLOU 2, and yet again, it's probably another female empowerment, anti-ableist message by Cuckmann, telling us pregnant women are just as able to do things as men or non-pregnant women, which is absurd.
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Its almost repugnant, as if he is so insecure that he has to put a pregnant woman in the front lines instead of her having, you know, sense of preservation for her child. Its absolutely disgusting.
 
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Ruin said:
Idk CDPR fired their social media guy with lightning speed after he made a rather tame "did you just assume my gender?" joke.
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The social media personnel are meant to represent the company. Making politically charged jokes (Even tame ones) for either side is pretty solid grounds to get shit canned from those positions.
 
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Ruin said:
Note that all these character have breasts and hips in addition to being muscular. They aren't grotesque de feminized soy golems. Also none are psychopathic serial killers.
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I think this is the real issue here. These journalists don't like the fact that women in games have noticeable breasts. The "muscular" thing is just a mask for these journalists.

That's why Druckmann pissed all over Quiet (Metal Gear Solid V), Cortana (Halo) and Ayane (Dead or Alive). Nevermind that two of those women are from Japanese game studios. It's essentially Western bigotry.

Abby's nude body looks virtually indistinguishable from a fucking man.
 
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Clint Westwood said:
I think this is the real issue here. These journalists don't like the fact that women in games have noticeable breasts. The "muscular" thing is just a mask for these journalists.

That's why Druckmann pissed all over Quiet (Metal Gear Solid V), Cortana (Halo) and Ayane (Dead or Alive). Nevermind that two of those women are from Japanese game studios. It's essentially Western bigotry.

Abby's nude body looks virtually indistinguishable from a fucking man.
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None of those women had a naked explicit sex scene in their games either.
 
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Hypnopedosnake2 said:
During this whole autistic drama, it again dawned something on me that drives me mental since several years now.

Let's put aside the fact if Last of us part 2 is a bad game or not (it actually is), but there is something else that i got from all these people praising this game. They say how mature gaming has become, they say how gaming is a piece of art and how gaming is so much more serious.

Do Gamers really have such an inferiority complex, that they feel like they need to be seen as more then what they are? I am a gamer and all i care about is that games are supposed to be fun.

Fun has become a bad word with these kinds of people.
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Sadly, things have been like that for the last couple decades, gaming has become some sort of "safe haven" for people who want to feel "validated", as if the only way they can feel they're sophisticated adults is by the media they consume, but that's the thing, most of them have the most shallow or childish tastes, when it comes to books, they grew up reading Harry Potter, and never moved on to read better books, when it comes to movies, they mostly watch capeshit and Disney remakes, but when it comes to videogames, most of these people are too dumb to run and jump on a platformer, or move and shoot on a FPS, or manage an inventory and solve puzzles on a horror game, so what kind of games most gamers latch on to nowadays? glorified walking simulators, where you do nothing but walk on straight line for 12 hours and press X every now and then, videogames that pretty much play themselves, and these people go "See?, this game is for mature people such as myself!, everyone is sad and miserable and the game it's not fun at all!, and that's a good thing!"
 
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Hypnopedosnake2 said:
During this whole autistic drama, it again dawned something on me that drives me mental since several years now.

Let's put aside the fact if Last of us part 2 is a bad game or not (it actually is), but there is something else that i got from all these people praising this game. They say how mature gaming has become, they say how gaming is a piece of art and how gaming is so much more serious.

Do Gamers really have such an inferiority complex, that they feel like they need to be seen as more then what they are? I am a gamer and all i care about is that games are supposed to be fun.

Fun has become a bad word with these kinds of people.
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Because a dead movie critic insulted vidya despite being a old boomer who has probably only played pong, therefore we need to stick to him from the grave and prove him wrong that video games are grown up art things!
 
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Hypnopedosnake2 said:
During this whole autistic drama, it again dawned something on me that drives me mental since several years now.

Let's put aside the fact if Last of us part 2 is a bad game or not (it actually is), but there is something else that i got from all these people praising this game. They say how mature gaming has become, they say how gaming is a piece of art and how gaming is so much more serious.

Do Gamers really have such an inferiority complex, that they feel like they need to be seen as more then what they are? I am a gamer and all i care about is that games are supposed to be fun.

Fun has become a bad word with these kinds of people.
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That is because these people don't want to make games, they don't want to make something people will enjoy. They want to make something they can go into an Ivory tower and say they made "Art"

They hate video games and just see it as a means to an end to get asspats from The Old White Hippies.
 
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SteelPlatedHeart said:
More from Troy.
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This confirms everything I've felt about the guy once he started popping up in everything. Which is ironic because the whole shit-silent hill actors-royalties-union hypocrisy and stupidity-bullcrap.

I remember he threw a shitfit about not returning to play Yuri Lowell instead they went with Grant George (who I can vouch with personal experience he and his wife are incredibly rude VAs). I would personally have had Troy back but its obvious why they did not ask him back. It is because of his precious union uwu that he tried forming.

Still can't forget when he went psycho on some fans on gamefaqs.

Personally I would have all male characters in every game ever, voiced by the following actors for the rest of our lifetimes: Jason Marsden, Ben Diskin, Keith Silverstein, Toru Furuya, and Takaya Kuroda. (Kiriyu saaaaaaaan...his voice is like butter. It literally causes ovaries to burst)

I wonder if hes really bored and just wants the game to sell well for cash. He has a kid right? Raise the child stop bitching on twatter
 
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You know, I have noticed that I a lot of people are pointing to that review by Girlfriend Reviews as proof that we simply didn't understand the game's theme, which was apparently "forgiveness", not revenge, and that we didn't give the game enough of a chance and are just looking at the surface, and that we are too upset about Joel's death that we are letting it cloud our judgement.






What do you guys think of said review?
 
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LightDragonman1 said:
You know, I have noticed that I a lot of people are pointing to that review by Girlfriend Reviews as proof that we simply didn't understand the game's theme, which was apparently "forgiveness", not revenge, and that we didn't give the game enough of a chance and are just looking at the surface, and that we are too upset about Joel's death that we are letting it cloud our judgement.






What do you guys think of said review?
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To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to enjoy The Last Of Us 2...
 
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LightDragonman1 said:
You know, I have noticed that I a lot of people are pointing to that review by Girlfriend Reviews as proof that we simply didn't understand the game's theme, which was apparently "forgiveness", not revenge, and that we didn't give the game enough of a chance and are just looking at the surface, and that we are too upset about Joel's death that we are letting it cloud our judgement.






What do you guys think of said review?
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If the game is about forgiveness, then the game is a failure if the player doesn't forgive Abby, or at least understand Ellie's actions at the end.

The review says that if you still want to kill Abby at the end, then you the player failed the game. No, the burden is on the game to tell its story and convey its message.

I do not understand what convinced Ellie to spare Abby at the end. And if the game wanted to give meaning to Ellie's mercy, they should have shown something good come of it, like Abby and Lev starting an orphanage or something. But no, all the game shows us is that Ellie lost everything and can't play guitar anymore.

I don't think the game really has any message at the end; it's just a misery simulator.
 
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