Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

There is an immense vocabulary and lexicon of ethnic slurs, for almost anything imaginable in almost any context. I've never met anyone offended by "wop" in particular, because nobody really associates just being Italian with any negative traits other than the obvious Mafia shit, and as crime mobs go, the Mafia is ridiculously popular, on the level of cowboys and Indians, in American culture.

I'm sure some motherfucker will find some way to be offended by Vic calling himself a wop, though. I've always been kind of surprised nobody has already.

I know back in Grandpa's day they refereed to them there EyeTalions as "Guinea's". Probably because Wop sounded stupid. The Irish were Mick's, and Paddy's. The Jews were the ever loved Kike, which I've never met anyone who understands why?
 
I know back in Grandpa's day they refereed to them there EyeTalions as "Guinea's". Probably because Wop sounded stupid. The Irish were Mick's, and Paddy's. The Jews were the ever loved Kike, which I've never met anyone who understands why?
The Chosenites are called kikes because back when none of them could read or write English and they had to sign their name to get to New York/wherever, they were told to sign with an "X". Well, an "X" looks a lot like a cross, and these Chosenites hated Jesus so much they thought it was some sort of Christian propaganda, so they drew a circle instead. And the word for circle in Yiddish is "kikel", so they called these Jews "kikes".
 
Question for y'all - the response from MoRon keeps slamming Vic's legal team for not attaching a spreadsheet detailing the way they think the billing should have gone. The way the original billing records were presented with major portions heavily redacted would have made that next to impossible, but MoRon claims that they submitted an unredacted version for in camera review and therefore Vic's team should have been able to do it. Wasn't the unredacted version submitted during the trial where all of this was determined? Are MoRon's team really saying that Ty should have sat down with the unredacted billing and typed up a spreadsheet while the hearing was under way? Am I missing something?
 
Question for y'all - the response from MoRon keeps slamming Vic's legal team for not attaching a spreadsheet detailing the way they think the billing should have gone. The way the original billing records were presented with major portions heavily redacted would have made that next to impossible, but MoRon claims that they submitted an unredacted version for in camera review and therefore Vic's team should have been able to do it. Wasn't the unredacted version submitted during the trial where all of this was determined? Are MoRon's team really saying that Ty should have sat down with the unredacted billing and typed up a spreadsheet while the hearing was under way? Am I missing something?
Yea I think that's pretty much what happened if I'm remembering correctly.

I just remember whatever happened was done in a way to damage Vic obviously, but it was a very low way of doing it.
 
Yea I think that's pretty much what happened if I'm remembering correctly.

I just remember whatever happened was done in a way to damage Vic obviously, but it was a very low way of doing it.
And of course it blew up in their face because bringing Vic on that stand was like punching themselves in the nuts for roughly a half hour.
 
And of course it blew up in their face because bringing Vic on that stand was like punching themselves in the nuts for roughly a half hour.
I still hold that putting Vic on the stand is what made Chupp go from "I'm too lazy to care, fuck the plaintiff" to "Ah fuck, fuck em all."
 
Question for y'all - the response from MoRon keeps slamming Vic's legal team for not attaching a spreadsheet detailing the way they think the billing should have gone. The way the original billing records were presented with major portions heavily redacted would have made that next to impossible, but MoRon claims that they submitted an unredacted version for in camera review and therefore Vic's team should have been able to do it. Wasn't the unredacted version submitted during the trial where all of this was determined? Are MoRon's team really saying that Ty should have sat down with the unredacted billing and typed up a spreadsheet while the hearing was under way? Am I missing something?
They submitted an unredacted version to the judge for an in camera review. Probably what sunk their boat. Chup wasn't totally stupid, just lazy.
 
They submitted an unredacted version to the judge for an in camera review. Probably what sunk their boat. Chup wasn't totally stupid, just lazy.
He probably hates TCPA shit as much as any other judge since its terrible law, but he knows his fees and sanctions, so he took that seriously.
 
Dunford on McGibney

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Question for y'all - the response from MoRon keeps slamming Vic's legal team for not attaching a spreadsheet detailing the way they think the billing should have gone. The way the original billing records were presented with major portions heavily redacted would have made that next to impossible, but MoRon claims that they submitted an unredacted version for in camera review and therefore Vic's team should have been able to do it. Wasn't the unredacted version submitted during the trial where all of this was determined? Are MoRon's team really saying that Ty should have sat down with the unredacted billing and typed up a spreadsheet while the hearing was under way? Am I missing something?
It's completely disingenuous of MoRon's side to act like Ty should have been able to respond to them. Nobody had seen unredacted billing records until the day of the hearing and even then I'm pretty sure they were only provided to the judge.
 
Something occured to me while listening to last nights lawstream. Factoring in Ron is always projecting it will not be surprising to find out Ron sues Lemoine if they lose. His recent push for Vic suing Ty for mishandling the case was seen as hot air but it's probably deeper than that. Nick going over the fees, bringing up how much Lemoine lied to the court and the fact that Lemoine said in court he will charge MoRon the exact amount probably perked their ears.

Curious what you other kiwis think.
 
Since McGibney is the basis for MoRon's argument that they get everything, and since LawTwitter is too lazy to do anything other than take MoRon's word as the gospel truth, I went ahead and looked up the full decision in the case. Here's what I found:


Here, the trial court awarded 100% of the amount that Appellee sought — $300,838.84. In the proper exercise of its discretion, a trial judge is obliged to do more than simply act as a rubber-stamp, accepting carte blanche the amount appearing on the bill. See id. at 299-300 (discussing that a trial court should conduct a "meaningful review" of fee applications). As explained above, to discharge its responsibility, the trial court must act within guiding rules and principles, see Low, 221 S.W.3d at 614; Cire, 134 S.W.3d at 838-39, and the trial court's award must be based on supporting evidence. See Ford Motor Co., 363 S.W.3d at 578.

In reaching our conclusion that there was insufficient evidence to support the trial court's award of the entire amount sought by Appellee, we need only to look at a handful of the charges that appear on his billing statement. Some entries were so heavily redacted that the trial court could not possibly have had sufficient evidence to determine that the entire amount requested was "not excessive or extreme, but rather moderate or fair." See Sullivan, 488 S.W.3d at 299. For example, on March 16, 2014, Appellee's attorney billed 5.5 hours totaling $3,025 for work described as follows:

Exchange several e-mails with [Appellee] regarding [Redacted]; adjust as necessary (.60 Hours) complete drafting [Appellee] affidavit; (.30 hours) exchange several e-mails with [Appellee] regarding [Redacted] (.80 Hours) continue researching and drafting [Appellee's] [Redacted] 3.80 Hours[.]
From this entry, the trial judge could glean only that the attorney exchanged several emails with his client, adjusted something, completed drafting an affidavit of some sort, and continued researching and drafting something else.

Granted, MoRon's counsel did provide an unredacted copy to the court at the trial, but it turns out there are other problems...

Other entries have dubious relevance to this lawsuit. For example, on March 19, March 20, and April 11, 2014, Appellee's attorney billed 4.9 hours for what can only be characterized as "oppo research"27 — on

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then-opposing counsel John Morgan — on matters wholly unrelated to this suit:


Contact Tarrant County district clerk to get update of filings in the John Morgan V. Shane Phelps, et al. case no. D195,081. Research internet for publicity surrounding the case; check various internet sites for details of Judge Layne Walker and his involvement with John Morgan....[28]Continue research on cases filed by plaintiff and research internet looking for new disciplinary proceedings against plaintiff's attorney.[R]eview information that plaintiffs' counsel John S. Morgan has been arrested and has pled guilty to making a false report to a police officer; review arrest report and commitment order.

Other charged services went well beyond the depth of research and preparation ordinarily expended in the early stages of any lawsuit. In fact, a review of the entire 23 pages of billing records attached to Appellee's attorney's affidavit reveals a troublesome pattern of heavy front-end loading of legal work that might very well have been reasonable, if the case had ever moved beyond the chapter 27 dismissal stage,29 but was nevertheless premature and of questionable reasonableness in the early stages of the lawsuit.

So, if you didn't need depositions or 14 affidavits to do your TCPA motion, you shouldn't expect to get paid for them. Or for prepping your case against Nick...

Other areas of legal work that appear in this record also give us pause, including the numerous hours devoted to reviewing not only the rulings or holdings of particular cases but also the entire records of those cases. We find particularly troublesome the practice of reviewing the entire files of trial court cases outside of this court's jurisdiction, when the rulings from those cases would yield no authoritative — or even persuasive — authority to guide the trial court in the instant case. For example, on March 26, 2014 — eight days after Appellee filed his special appearance in this case — Appellee's attorney had already billed for the following research:

Review entire case file in the trial court in Cause No. DC-11-13741; American Heritage Capital, LP v. Gonzalez; in the 68th District Court of Dallas County, Texas[32]; including pleadings, motions to dismiss, and court order gra[n]ting motion to dismiss and awarding attorney's fees and sanctions....

In that case, the lawyers spent hours reading entire case histories that weren't authoritative to their court, and that was considered excessive and not proper to pass on to the plaintiff. I'm going to guess that the appeals court is going to look at some intern at Wick's Phillip spending eight hours looking at TCPA deadlines when they had a TCPA expert on the case as something that Toye's going to get to pay for.

The examples cited above are not an exhaustive list of the billing entries submitted in this case that lead us to conclude
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that the amount awarded was not reasonable.33 These specific entries are cited merely to illustrate the shortage of evidence and some of the gaps in proof that should have prevented the trial court from awarding 100% of the attorney's fees billed and sought by Appellee. These examples illustrate that the trial court failed to consider and weigh the evidence of attorney's fees in a thorough manner and apply guiding rules and principles to determine which charges were reasonable, as the trial court should have. Accordingly, we sustain this portion of Appellants' second issue.

The trial court isn't supposed to believe that everything is reasonable just because the lawyer who came up with the bill says it is. The trial court is supposed to go through it 'in a thorough manner and apply guiding rules.'

3. The 18.001 Affidavit
Appellee argues that the trial court was nevertheless required to award all fees sought. According to Appellee, because he proved his attorney's fees in an "18.001" affidavit, Appellants were precluded at the trial court level and now on appeal from challenging reasonableness. We disagree.

In civil cases not involving a suit on a sworn account, a party may prove that a service was reasonable and necessary34 by submitting an affidavit in compliance with civil practice and remedies code section 18.001. Tex. Civ. Prac. & Rem. Code Ann. § 18.001 (West 2015). If service and the substance of the affidavit comply with section 18.001's requisites, the affidavit "is sufficient evidence to support a finding of fact by judge or jury that the amount charged was reasonable." Id. § 18.001(b). Section 18.001 serves to streamline proof of reasonableness and necessity and is especially useful in cases in which the damage elements of reasonableness and necessity are not contested. See Haygood v. De Escabedo, 356 S.W.3d 390, 397 (Tex. 2011) (observing that section 18.001, which is "purely procedural," provides for the use of affidavits "to streamline proof of the reasonableness and necessity" of expenses but "does not establish that billed charges are reasonable and necessary").

We will set aside the question as to whether Appellee's attorney's affidavit complied with civil practice and remedies code section 18.001 and assume, without holding, that it did. With that assumption, the question becomes whether Appellants can challenge the reasonableness of the fees awarded on appeal.

To challenge the reasonableness of the amount charged for a service after a proper 18.001 affidavit has been filed, the opponent must file and serve a controverting affidavit in compliance with 18.001. See Tex. Civ. Prac. & Rem. Code Ann. § 18.001(e)-(f). If the opponent's controverting affidavit is properly prepared and served, then the original 18.001 affidavit no longer suffices to prove that the amount charged was reasonable. See id. § 18.001(b). Thus, by filing a proper controverting affidavit, the opposing party can force the party with the burden of proof to prove reasonableness through expert testimony. Hong v. Bennett, 209 S.W.3d 795, 801 (Tex. App. — Fort Worth 2006, no pet.). Here, Appellants filed no controverting 18.001 affidavit.



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Appellee argued to the trial court that because Appellants did not challenge his 18.001 affidavit with a controverting affidavit, Appellants were precluded from challenging his attorney's fees evidence.


However, while an unchallenged 18.001 affidavit provides legally sufficient evidence at trial to support a finding that the amount charged was reasonable, the affidavit does not constitute conclusive proof. Id. at 800; see Atwood v. Pietrowicz, No. 02-10-00010-CV, 2010 WL 4261600, at *4 (Tex. App. — Fort Worth Oct. 28, 2010, no pet.) (mem. op.). In Atwood, the appellants contended that their uncontroverted 18.001 affidavits entitled them to recover the amounts reflected therein as a matter of law. 2010 WL 4261600, at *3. But as we explained,

Section 18.001 affidavits do not establish that the [fees] were caused by the defendant's actions or that the plaintiffs are entitled to those [fees] as a matter of law. Sloan v. Molandes, 32 S.W.3d 745, 752 (Tex. App. — Beaumont 2000, no pet.); Beauchamp v. Hambrick, 901 S.W.2d 747, 749 (Tex. App. — Eastland 1995, no writ). It is an evidentiary statute allowing for the admissibility of affidavits that would otherwise be considered hearsay.
Id. at *4 (holding that the Atwoods were still required to demonstrate that the services were sought as a result of Pietrowicz's actions).

This rule does not change in the context of chapter 27 hearings. As the supreme court has instructed us, in the context of a chapter 27 dismissal hearing, the judge, as the factfinder, must determine whether the amount is "not excessive or extreme, but rather moderate or fair." Sullivan, 488 S.W.3d at 299.

The gist of Appellants' argument on appeal is that because the charges in Appellee's 18.001 affidavit were excessive, as opposed to moderate or fair, the trial court erred by awarding the entire amount sought. For the reasons already set forth above, we agree. Consequently, we sustain this part of Appellants' second issue. On remand, the court should consider in its determination and award of reasonable attorney's fees, among other factors, Appellee's choice to file an answer before service of citation, his knowledge of the upcoming nonsuit, and his intent to use a dismissal in another lawsuit against him by the same plaintiffs. See Rauhauser I, 508 S.W.3d at 382 & n.3.

The appeals court did indeed say in the middle of their section on whether an affidavit is required,
To challenge the reasonableness of the amount charged for a service after a proper 18.001 affidavit has been filed, the opponent must file and serve a controverting affidavit in compliance with 18.001. See Tex. Civ. Prac. & Rem. Code Ann. § 18.001(e)-(f). If the opponent's controverting affidavit is properly prepared and served, then the original 18.001 affidavit no longer suffices to prove that the amount charged was reasonable.
but Lemoine clearly missed the opening paragraph of the section where they said,
Appellee argues that the trial court was nevertheless required to award all fees sought. According to Appellee, because he proved his attorney's fees in an "18.001" affidavit, Appellants were precluded at the trial court level and now on appeal from challenging reasonableness. We disagree.
and then after stating that a controverting affidavit was required, when they went on to say,
However, while an unchallenged 18.001 affidavit provides legally sufficient evidence at trial to support a finding that the amount charged was reasonable, the affidavit does not constitute conclusive proof. Id. at 800; see Atwood v. Pietrowicz, No. 02-10-00010-CV, 2010 WL 4261600, at *4 (Tex. App. — Fort Worth Oct. 28, 2010, no pet.) (mem. op.). In Atwood, the appellants contended that their uncontroverted 18.001 affidavits entitled them to recover the amounts reflected therein as a matter of law. 2010 WL 4261600, at *3. But as we explained,

Section 18.001 affidavits do not establish that the [fees] were caused by the defendant's actions or that the plaintiffs are entitled to those [fees] as a matter of law. Sloan v. Molandes, 32 S.W.3d 745, 752 (Tex. App. — Beaumont 2000, no pet.); Beauchamp v. Hambrick, 901 S.W.2d 747, 749 (Tex. App. — Eastland 1995, no writ). It is an evidentiary statute allowing for the admissibility of affidavits that would otherwise be considered hearsay.

So, shocker to everyone I know, the court case actually says exactly opposite of what MoRon says it does. This is why people hate lawyers.
 
Since McGibney is the basis for MoRon's argument that they get everything, and since LawTwitter is too lazy to do anything other than take MoRon's word as the gospel truth, I went ahead and looked up the full decision in the case. Here's what I found:




Granted, MoRon's counsel did provide an unredacted copy to the court at the trial, but it turns out there are other problems...



So, if you didn't need depositions or 14 affidavits to do your TCPA motion, you shouldn't expect to get paid for them. Or for prepping your case against Nick...


In that case, the lawyers spent hours reading entire case histories that weren't authoritative to their court, and that was considered excessive and not proper to pass on to the plaintiff. I'm going to guess that the appeals court is going to look at some intern at Wick's Phillip spending eight hours looking at TCPA deadlines when they had a TCPA expert on the case as something that Toye's going to get to pay for.


The trial court isn't supposed to believe that everything is reasonable just because the lawyer who came up with the bill says it is. The trial court is supposed to go through it 'in a thorough manner and apply guiding rules.'


The appeals court did indeed say in the middle of their section on whether an affidavit is required, but Lemoine clearly missed the opening paragraph of the section where they said, and then after stating that a controverting affidavit was required, when they went on to say,

So, shocker to everyone I know, the court case actually says exactly opposite of what MoRon says it does. This is why people hate lawyers.

Damn it Dunford. Can you at least make the attempt to stay in your element?

Anyway, still hoping that appeals court throws books at Lemoine til he collapses. Granted it won't take much but it would still be entertaining.
 
someone needs to watch True Romance

The "hurr durr Italians are all Moorish Africans" is a debunked old wives' tale

Italians are White, and very much Western too.

For fuck's sake, the Romans were one of the core founders of White Western culture and Romans were Italian.

Emperor Nero is even described as having light brown hair and blue eyes while Caligula was described as a stereotypical "ginger" with red hair, a pale complexion, and blueish-green eyes, and both of them died centuries before any Germanic incursions into Italy.

Most of the Arab incursions into Italy were primarily in Sicily, the mainland Italians are very much White in my eyes. DNA evidence backs this up
 
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