Brianna Wu / John Flynt - Original Thread

What are you opinions on GamerGate and Brianna Wu / John Flynt?

  • I am of no opinion towards either.

    Votes: 104 8.6%
  • I am neutral on GamerGate, but think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votes: 631 52.1%
  • I am neutral on GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votes: 9 0.7%
  • I am ANTI-GamerGate, but still think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votes: 112 9.2%
  • I am ANTI-GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votes: 37 3.1%
  • I am PRO-GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votes: 309 25.5%
  • I am PRO-GamerGate, but still think that and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votes: 9 0.7%

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It's almost as if Setzer is supposed to be portrayed as an opportunist and generally not entirely pleasant guy.

Now I know Wu didn't play all of that game. Later on, not only does he get better,

He built an elaborate tomb for a woman he was a friendly rival to and whom he is heavily implied to have loved deeply and only disturbs that tomb to recover her airship so the party can use it recover everyone else so they can all take on the madman who messed up the world and save what's left of the planet from getting screwed over.

Basically, he either never finished the game or glossed over the character development. Me, I'm sure it the first one, but given how static his own characters are, the second one might be true as well.
 
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Now I know Wu didn't play all of that game. Later on, not only does he get better,

He built an elaborate tomb for a woman he was a friendly rival to and whom he is heavily implied to have loved deeply and only disturbs that tomb to recover her airship so the party can use it recover everyone else so they can all take on the madman who messed up the world and save what's left of the planet from getting screwed over.

Basically, she either never finished the game or glossed over the character development. Me, I'm sure it the first one, but given how static her own characters are, the second one might be true as well.
I'm pretty sure she's just angry that Setzer wasn't punished brutally for his crimes against feminism. The fact that he "gets better" doesn't mean shit to her. He did something in his past that Wu has deemed bad. He should punished for it regardless of what he has done since.

I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and say she did finish the game, but didn't care about Setzer once she had decided he was bad. To her, he should have never existed or at least been punished for his crimes.
 
2. Wu should consider making a Kickstarter for her feminist vids
I'm beginning to doubt she's even played the game at this point. Setzer says he'd offer his help (his airship) if Celes marries him. So while that might not be the most chivalrous thing to do it's pretty damn far from sex trafficking. Celes agrees to this but on the condition that they have to flip a coin: Heads he helps them for free, tails she marries him. She then cheats using a double headed coin.

If anything, shouldn't Wu of been happy that a strong woman was able to trick a decadent and lecherous member of the patriarchy?

Also, out of a total cast of fourteen, only two characters ever hit on her. Exactly one time each. Not exactly a case for sexual harassment that Wu is claiming to of happened.
 
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1. lol

2. Wu should consider making a Kickstarter for her feminist vids
God forbid characters are put into dramatic situations. And when was Celes treated like a joke? She's one of the characters most central to the narrative, and is only captured through trechery. I'm surprised Wu didn't rag on how problematic Ultros was.

I'm so tired of this windbag lecturing others on their writing when her own sloppy characters don't even meet her standards she forces on others.
 
I'm so tired of this windbag lecturing others on their writing when her own sloppy characters don't even meet her standards she forces on others.

This is what kills me. Her sanctimonious preaching might almost be worth an iota of a damn if she were actually producing creative work herself. Although on the other hand the only way to not be "problematic" these days is to do jack fucking shit.
 
This is what kills me. Her sanctimonious preaching might almost be worth an iota of a damn if she were actually producing creative work herself. Although on the other hand the only way to not be "problematic" these days is to do jack fucking shit.
Well, if Anita can do it (while waiting months to release a chapter while she is pay to do shitty talks), why cannot she?

At least she (barely) made a game, a better step than Anita "what context mean".

Then again, I'm also in the camp of "she didn't play or completed the game".
 
Wu. Stop right now, you fetid sack lying failure.

This is the third fucking time you've done this bullshit. Each and every time, you're fucking called on it, and, unlike Anita, you don't have the cover of a big-league PR firm to spin your nonsense. You are now clearly and intentionally going after games you know have established fanbases in order to provoke them. It's fucking blatant and obvious, and you're doing nothing but piss people off.

Now, I know that you kind of have a history of victimizing yourself - indeed, that's how you became a public figure in the first place, by attacking people in Gamergate until you provoked a chimp-out, at which point you claimed you were oppressed. But the thing is, even though you very likely won't get Revolution 60 out - not due to any problem on your part, but because you violated the ToS of Steam itself when you signal boosted and used sockpuppets to help get you through the process, which may be why nobody can find any evidence of Revolution 60 ever being on Steam in the first place, and how your company site in no way makes clear that you even have a PC version in development. But that's cool, I know you're good for it. Since I'm eagerly looking forward to it so that I can mock it, here's a little advice for you, apropos of nothing:

Stop making up shit that's disprovable by literally anyone who's played through a game with absolutely no effort. Final Fantasy VI is fucking 21 years old. Everyone with even a modicum of SNES RPGs has fucking played it, knows you're lying, and from there, forevermore associates you with being a shameless no-talent hack. Anyone who has ever played FFVI is immediately turned off to your arguments from then on because you're fucking openly disingenuous.
 
New top of the page quote pls

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It's obvious to ANYONE else who has played FFVI (including myself) that Wu is pulling this characterization of Setzer out of her fake vagina.

I'm surprised she'd not getting more mad at Edgar Figaro, who IS characterized as a "ladies man" archetype.
 
New top of the page quote pls

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Is perjorative only to (and because) people like you bitch in any forum as how wrong and stupid are the people using the term to "hurt" social justice.

Never mind that the people that bitch about it are the same kind of people that would say to other people "he is like Forrest Gump/Ralph from the Simpsons" just to say retard without saying it. But if somebody uses the word "they are degrading people with mental deficiencies" as if is worse...
"Let me invalidate your opinion with bitching about using the word SJW, little Forrest Gump"
 
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What really stands out to me about GaintSpaceKat's web page is that the longest, most detail page is the one talking only about Wu.

His history, well history as he sees it, is like a terrible novella.

Here's a brief taste:

Wu has described herself as, "barely a feminist" when she started the company in 2010. She wanted to create games with strong female characters, but believed it was best to "just do a good job and don't make a big deal out of it."

Working in the game industry, Wu found herself frequently frustrated by what she described as the "boys club" mentality in games, which was much worse than any of the other industries she'd worked in. This was reflected in the tone of their first game Revolution 60, which featured an all-female cast of special operatives, in a game many describe as having strong feminist overtones. Revolution 60 shipped in July of 2014 to critically acclaimed reviews from Macworld, Kotaku, Gamebreaker, 148Apps, and others. A sequel is currently in the works.

Over the course of shipping Revolution 60, Wu found herself speaking more and more on what women were experiencing in the game industry. In 2013 she wrote a critically acclaimed piece called, "Choose your Character," for 'The Magazine' outlining the culture of her studio and how she'd changed over the course of leading the company. This led to speaking roles at tech conferences all around the country including the keynote at i360 in Denver. In 2014, Wu was speaking on women in tech issues at PAX East, and writing critical pieces on the lack of women voting for game of the year. She also wrote, "No Skin Thick Enough," for Polygon, a piece about the daily harassment of women in the game development industry.

In 2014 Wu also launched Isometric, a games podcast with a majority of women voicing their perspective. This was quickly picked up by the prominent 5by5 network and quickly became one of the most listened-to podcasts in games. She also hosts Rocket on Relay.FM.


Someone really needs to take the time and go though this rambling story about his life and try to match the lies vs the reality.

Also...lol, most listen to PodCast in games. I think quiet a few other broadcaster might have an issue with that statement.
 
What really stands out to me about GaintSpaceKat's web page is that the longest, most detail page is the one talking only about Wu.

Working in the game industry, Wu found herself frequently frustrated by what she described as the "boys club" mentality in games, which was much worse than any of the other industries she'd worked in.


Other industries she'd worked in.

Other industries. She'd.

Worked in.

HA HA HA, OH WOW.
 
Well technically he did "work" in the animation industry, even though the said "work" consisted of evaporating his foster-parents' money.

Wu has described herself as, "barely a feminist" when she started the company in 2010. She wanted to create games with strong female characters, but believed it was best to "just do a good job and don't make a big deal out of it."
The irony is so dense that I must be living in the core of a dying star.
 
This was reflected in the tone of their first game Revolution 60, which featured an all-female cast of special operatives, in a game many describe as having strong feminist overtones.
Does she realize that, with some of the crazy things said and done in the name of "feminism", this may not be a compliment?
 
Does she realize that, with some of the crazy things said and done in the name of "feminism", this may not be a compliment?

I wouldn't think so.

Part of Wu's "charm" is the utter blindness he has to the hypocrisy and irony of his statements.

Otherwise he's be just another tranny ranting on twitter; of which we have plethora sadly.
 
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