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Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big
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Our governor, after giving a pep talk/stern talking to/why do you make me beat you speech that pissed off everyone last night, here's our latest change in our "levels"
Red counties mean masks, the * next to Athens county means they're almost Level 4, which I guess is the shut it all down level. Their sin?
Since last week, they've add 63 cases, one hospitalization. I mean, that is roughly a quarter of their total cases, but the actual important metrics? Ten hospitalizations total, one death back in March.
Butler and Hamilton counties are off the "almost level 4" watch list since cases, hospitalizations, and deaths have all dropped for the last week. In fact, all the state's actual daily numbers were in single digits today. No deaths.
DeWine's daily "reported" numbers, as always, include shit from months ago just now being reported and he treats them as if it all happened today. Once again the picture shows how this system he has makes tiny changes into huge issues. Athens county has a small population, and it almost went into the red over 63 cases and 1 hospitalization.
And for the cherry on top? Lawmakers, judges, and their staff don't have to wear masks in the statehouse. This is why I don't take anything DeWine reports seriously. Too much "Rules for thee, not for me." If he actually believed the bullshit he was pushing, he'd be leading the mask wearing. He only started when he started getting called out on it and there's plenty of pictures of him not wearing one when he doesn't think a camera was on him.
Red counties mean masks, the * next to Athens county means they're almost Level 4, which I guess is the shut it all down level. Their sin?
Since last week, they've add 63 cases, one hospitalization. I mean, that is roughly a quarter of their total cases, but the actual important metrics? Ten hospitalizations total, one death back in March.
Butler and Hamilton counties are off the "almost level 4" watch list since cases, hospitalizations, and deaths have all dropped for the last week. In fact, all the state's actual daily numbers were in single digits today. No deaths.
DeWine's daily "reported" numbers, as always, include shit from months ago just now being reported and he treats them as if it all happened today. Once again the picture shows how this system he has makes tiny changes into huge issues. Athens county has a small population, and it almost went into the red over 63 cases and 1 hospitalization.
And for the cherry on top? Lawmakers, judges, and their staff don't have to wear masks in the statehouse. This is why I don't take anything DeWine reports seriously. Too much "Rules for thee, not for me." If he actually believed the bullshit he was pushing, he'd be leading the mask wearing. He only started when he started getting called out on it and there's plenty of pictures of him not wearing one when he doesn't think a camera was on him.
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It works well and it is not a big deal if you do it right (just while shopping and not all of the fuckn time.
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The irony of insulting someone's IQ while unironically using the term, "Anti-Mask" ...
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Educate me on what is wrong with the term "anti-mask"
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It's yet another buzzword term being peddled by people to further label and antagonize others. I've seen people call others "Anti-Maskers," and it's cringey AF.
The topic of masks didn't become an issue until government mandates started after two months of the media and "health experts" claiming that the masks don't help. Pretty damn sure most people wouldn't mind wearing masks if they weren't forced and bullied into doing so by law. Context matters.
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These days, what sort of cop would be suicidal enough to try to enforce a $2000 fine over not wearing a fucking mask?
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So it's bad because it's a "buzzword" and "cringey"? That's really a dumb reason even for an A&N rightwinger.
The topic came out way before that, but with reopenings, there was more of a need to push for masks. The science is pretty settled on it if you look at countries with mask mandates versus countries without them.
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Neither is taking off your shoes and letting bubba grope your nutsack before going on a plane but we just let that happen too. Jesus fuck I never want to hear a single person bitch about the Patriot Act again. People like you are doing the exact same thing people did back then over a bad flu.
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The science is settled, and against the masks.
The masks, simply put, win you nothing. They do not save a country a single infection, and there is no grounds on which to claim they would. Their only claim to value is to slow down the amount of time before a country achieves herd immunity in its population.
The only way for masks to be valuable would be for them to succeed in tactically isolating the disease so well that they starve it out and kill it outright. That possibility went out the window with the whole massive asymptomatic percentage and long infection time. The only places capable of killing it are small islands, and those islands now must remain closed or very tightly controlled from now until the release of a vaccine that is proven to be safer than the disease itself or else they too have won nothing.
There were two other claims masks had, that of delaying the disease to allow better treatments to become available, which has already plateaued, delaying spikes to avoid hospital overcrowding, which was barely even a factor in first world nations and is already way past done being relevant.
The science is settled, take off the mask, go live your life, and go get your antibodies today, next week, or next month. Either that or live in fear, wear a mask, and go get your antibodies in the exact same way with the exact same risk tomorrow, two weeks from now, or two months from now.
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I wish @snailslime would pay this thread a visit. (S)he/it could only improve the level of discourse.
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thats a massive deal and its all because they arent allow to racial profile..
thats not true... face coverings keep your gunk in your face if you are infected. its against sneezing and coofing, not against breathing.
mandatory masks are a key factor in countries that didnt fuck up their response.
thats not how masks work...
Exactly, Sweden doesn't have a mandatory mask rule and it's one of the only countries that didn't fuck up their response.
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You're still missing the point, so let me try to make it simpler for you: 1 year from now every country on earth will have had the same percentage of its population go through the process of being infected. That is the ONLY means by which there is any claim for the disease to fully end.
Masks do nothing to change that fact, all they are doing and all they claim to do is lower the transmission rate while they are an active entity in the situation.
So I suppose I should change my statement. 1 year from now every country on earth will either have had the same percentage of its population go through the process of being infected, OR they will STILL BE WEARING MASKS.
The instant any country takes off the masks the percentage needed goes back up to where it was and the disease, surprise surprise, is still around because it has the attributes it needs in order to never die out. So any order to wear masks today must, in order to have any claim that science is behind it, be an order in perpetuity.
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Swedens infection rate isnt good and their deathrate is pretty high for northern europeans(but i guess they have a massive amount of Nu-swedes dieing)
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Lol you can't be this stupid. Masks have been shown to decrease the chances of you infecting others. The science is settled.
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thats not going to happen, were will all the infections come from in the countries that have the infection pretty much beaten?
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If the science is settled and the masks are an absolute godsend to combating the virus, then why was the majority of the world told by the likes of Dr. Fauci and the WHO that the masks were unnecessary ... Until they suddenly were? Look it up: ALL of them are on record saying this stuff, as they were on record saying the virus itself was absolutely nothing to worry about as late as February. And back in April and May, Fauci was on record saying that the masks, while not really affective, make people feel better when they see others wear them. He essentially called them placebo when he was making his media rounds.
Fast-forward to now, and people aren't allowed to question these people even for a second after the government mandates to wear them or else? Come on.
In times where there is no pandemic, the masks serve as an effective way to prevent spreading bacterial infections, as bacteria has much larger particles than viral infections do. Viral particles are roughly about 1000x smaller than bacterial, thus making it insanely easier for viral particles to escape masks. So, if you're wearing the masks in a crowded store, I think it's not insane to assume that they're ineffective. The effective thing to do is to social distance, mask or not. In a crowded situation where you can't social distance, I don't think that the masks do much of anything. Especially when concerning the cloth/homemade masks ... As I said a few pages ago, I guarantee that people aren't washing those masks. Those actually have the potential to do more harm considering how the virus lingers on hard surfaces. You touch your dirty mask, and then you touch other things that other people will touch. Sounds harmful, actually.
But, you know, I'm just an "anti-masker." Hurr durr durr! Nuance doesn't exist, I'm just evil and a moron who wants people dead! Can't question anything!
Fast-forward to now, and people aren't allowed to question these people even for a second after the government mandates to wear them or else? Come on.
In times where there is no pandemic, the masks serve as an effective way to prevent spreading bacterial infections, as bacteria has much larger particles than viral infections do. Viral particles are roughly about 1000x smaller than bacterial, thus making it insanely easier for viral particles to escape masks. So, if you're wearing the masks in a crowded store, I think it's not insane to assume that they're ineffective. The effective thing to do is to social distance, mask or not. In a crowded situation where you can't social distance, I don't think that the masks do much of anything. Especially when concerning the cloth/homemade masks ... As I said a few pages ago, I guarantee that people aren't washing those masks. Those actually have the potential to do more harm considering how the virus lingers on hard surfaces. You touch your dirty mask, and then you touch other things that other people will touch. Sounds harmful, actually.
But, you know, I'm just an "anti-masker." Hurr durr durr! Nuance doesn't exist, I'm just evil and a moron who wants people dead! Can't question anything!
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Masks stop the spread of droplets, and the "muh science" crown immediately links this to "masks stop the virus".
And if this science is so simple, why for months was every authority figure saying the masks wouldnt help? Now suddenly they do, conveniently when mask makers had ramped up production. Funny how that timing works.
This is some eastasia bullshit.
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