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Literally the most Chad face possible and nice curls and you still decide to go trans. Should have just started lifting instead.
I thought the Habsburg line ended over 200 hundred years ago, but this dude proves that wrong.
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I thought the Habsburg line ended over 200 hundred years ago, but this dude proves that wrong.
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I bet if you autopsied this dude, he'd probably turn out much like the last of the Habsburgs of Spain, Charles II.

The autopsy records his body "did not contain a single drop of blood; his heart was the size of a peppercorn; his lungs corroded; his intestines rotten and gangrenous; he had a single testicle, black as coal, and his head was full of water."
 
David Reimer being raised "as a girl" is not what "fucked him up". The sustained childhood mental, emotional, physical and sexual abuse that Money put him and his twin brother through is what did that. Lest we forget that David's twin brother, Brian, also committed suicide due to the childhood abuse he and his brother both suffered.

That's not to say that we should be okay with boys being raised as girls in general, but the reason this sort of thing is wrong and abusive isn't because the kids are being raised with the wrong set of gender roles and expectations. It's because it involves mutilating their bodies, giving them medications that will sterilize them and destroy their health, because it hurts other children who are forced to sacrifice their privacy and safety, and because it involves lying to children and convincing them of things that aren't true (among other things).

I know you're probably generalizing but I felt this should be addressed, because a lot of people do try to reduce the Reimer case to just "it's wrong to raise a boy as a girl, look what harm it did" when that... really wasn't the most egregious harm done. This boy had his body mutilated multiple times to be made into a facsimile of female genitalia, he was forced to act out sex acts with his own brother, among other abuses - it was about so much more than him being made to wear skirts, and honestly making it about that feels disrespectful to the memories of David and Brian Reimer and what they went through.
The other stuff that he went thru is even more batshit horrifying. Like, Money was basically as bad as Mengele, except that he had far less "patients" to work with here.

Unless you're going full TERF and saying gender dysphoria doesn't exist, which I know is false.

I really love how tone-deaf it is of him to mash his BLM and edgy Satan-shit in a way where I initally read it as "#BlackLivesMatter, as long as Satan loves me."

The demonic gatekeeper of black oppression: Amelia. May his sacrifices continue to single-handedly destroy racism.

You know what demographic is overwhelmingly hardcore Christian? That's right, Black people.
 
The other stuff that he went thru is even more batshit horrifying. Like, Money was basically as bad as Mengele, except that he had far less "patients" to work with here.

Unless you're going full TERF and saying gender dysphoria doesn't exist, which I know is false.

I definitely agree that Money was disgusting filth who deserves to rot in Hell, as I've mentioned.

I didn't say that gender dysphoria doesn't exist. I was disputing your claim that "being raised as a girl" is what "fucked up" David Reimer. Gender dysphoria is a mental illness, akin to anorexia, body dysmorphic disorder or body integrity identity disorder. It should be treated like those conditions are treated: With therapy to help the patient reconcile with their body and recognize their body as a normal, neutral existence so that they can be comfortable and happy without destroying their bodies and health.

And what's more, most so-called "terfs" agree with that. I have never met any "terf" who claimed that gender dysphoria doesn't exist. They mostly believe, as I do, that it is a mental health condition that should be treated like other mental health conditions, that people with gender dysphoria are still members of their birth sex and do not somehow magically become members of the opposite sex (in brain or body), and that it isn't an excuse for a male to invade women's spaces or vice-versa.

What David Reimer suffered was not gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria is defined by dissatisfaction and upset at one's normal, sexed body and the sexed characteristics thereof. It is a mental illness. Part of the reason it is considered a mental illness is because the dissatisfaction and upset is irrational. David Reimer suffered upset at his body because he was mutilated as an infant under his parent's and Dr. Money's orders. That is not irrational, his body was not healthy and normal. It's not comparable at all.
 
I definitely agree that Money was disgusting filth who deserves to rot in Hell, as I've mentioned.

I didn't say that gender dysphoria doesn't exist. I was disputing your claim that "being raised as a girl" is what "fucked up" David Reimer. Gender dysphoria is a mental illness, akin to anorexia, body dysmorphic disorder or body integrity identity disorder. It should be treated like those conditions are treated: With therapy to help the patient reconcile with their body and recognize their body as a normal, neutral existence so that they can be comfortable and happy without destroying their bodies and health.

And what's more, most so-called "terfs" agree with that. I have never met any "terf" who claimed that gender dysphoria doesn't exist. They mostly believe, as I do, that it is a mental health condition that should be treated like other mental health conditions, that people with gender dysphoria are still members of their birth sex and do not somehow magically become members of the opposite sex (in brain or body), and that it isn't an excuse for a male to invade women's spaces or vice-versa.

What David Reimer suffered was not gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria is defined by dissatisfaction and upset at one's normal, sexed body and the sexed characteristics thereof. It is a mental illness. Part of the reason it is considered a mental illness is because the dissatisfaction and upset is irrational. David Reimer suffered upset at his body because he was mutilated as an infant under his parent's and Dr. Money's orders. That is not irrational, his body was not healthy and normal. It's not comparable at all.
TERFs seem to be always angry at anything gender non conforming. And anything male in general.

It is comparable to gender dysphoria as what happened was literally raising a boy as a girl. (Also the other stuff. Did his parents know? Probably not.)
 
TERFs seem to be always angry at anything gender non conforming. And anything male in general.

It is comparable to gender dysphoria as what happened was literally raising a boy as a girl. (Also the other stuff. Did his parents know? Probably not.)

What are you even on about? "Terfs" are an incredibly diverse lot, since anyone who crosses the trans community gets labelled "terf", and a great many of them are themselves gender non-conforming women and men. Do you even know what you're talking about?

I mean... I am at a loss. If you want to believe that the real problem with Money's treatment of David and Brian Reimer wasn't the sexual abuse or mutilation of infants but rather that he recommended that David be "raised as a girl" I guess I'm clearly not going to convince you otherwise.
 
TERFs seem to be always angry at anything gender non conforming. And anything male in general.

It is comparable to gender dysphoria as what happened was literally raising a boy as a girl. (Also the other stuff. Did his parents know? Probably not.)
gender dysphoria is something you realise at a specific age, when you become more aware of what genders actually are. that David dude had no say in his 'transition', it was a misinformed idea of a doctor to raise him as a girl due to his 'genital mutilation'.
 
What are you even on about? "Terfs" are an incredibly diverse lot, since anyone who crosses the trans community gets labelled "terf", and a great many of them are themselves gender non-conforming women and men. Do you even know what you're talking about?

I mean... I am at a loss. If you want to believe that the real problem with Money's treatment of David and Brian Reimer wasn't the sexual abuse or mutilation of infants but rather that he recommended that David be "raised as a girl" I guess I'm clearly not going to convince you otherwise.
The people who posted at r/gendercritical would be TERFs I suppose.
 
So that's what Mouthfeel means, I thought they were talking about some song made by Neil Cicierega. :smug:

Rather than a fleshy, hard knob to slobber on, I guess these people want lesbians to slobber on their flaccid gummy worms

and who doesn't like gummy worms? do they look at that giant six-foot gummy with envy, i wonder
 
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