This chronic lyme is bs. Just google 'chronic lyme fraud' and you get tons of scientific publications and the cdc all dismissing it as utter bs. They call out the doctors that treat it as predators because they prey upon munchie morons.
Reprinted from Médecine et Maladies Infectieuses, 2019 (PDF download) Authors Dr. Marc Gentilini, Infectious and Tropical Diseases, parasitology, public health, National Academy of Medicine, Paris, Fr
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the above website has a lot of articles on doctors who lost their licence because of their quackery, articles on the general fuckery and fraud, plus lots more. I need to deep dive and read up more on this.
i never heard of this elena person before but i instantly disliked her because of her woe is me bullshit. Her handful of pills is nothing more than herbal bs that you buy over the counter or get from your quacky doctor.
I do it anyway because I have Lyme disease. (Since I’m not a doctor, I say I have “chronic Lyme.” It’s a shorter way for me to say that this disease is still affecting me after more than a decade — I prefer it to the alternative, which is “Post-Treatment Lyme Disease Syndrome with a current active infection with a different strain of borrelia and bartonella as well as other co-infections.”) Taking 64 pills a day is the only way to keep my condition under any sort of control. It’s the only way to keep myself healthy enough to play the game that I love — healthy enough to do my job and earn the paycheck that supports my family.
Healthy enough to live something approaching a normal life.
To be fair, she does say it's Post-Treatment Lyme Syndrome but she's still incorrect. Right after she's claims its PTLS she claims she has
a current active infection
with like 5 different things are once lol. Lyme Science is a good blog and it's true, there's no such thing as "chronic lyme". You're either infected with it or not. It's killed off by antibiotics.
They often get quacks to prescribe them chronic antibiotics with no legit medical reason which is so hard on your body and terrible in a world of antibiotic resistant infections. What is sad is there's a lot of "lyme literate" doctors who actually have MDs. I'd expect this kind of crap from an "ND" naturopath but not someone with real training in evidence based medicine.
Personally, I believe in PTLS but not that the treatment is unnecessary antibiotics and weird alt med shit. It's just one of those things like CFS or fibro that is unexplained but clearly there is real suffering going on. Even some anti-pseudoscience skeptics hold this opinion.
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OT: Not to imply that Brian Dunning isn't borderline lolcow but I think his opinion on lyme is correct.
I’ve been told time and time again over the years that my condition makes me immunocompromised — that part of what Lyme does is it debilitates my immune system. I’ve had a common cold that sent my immune system spiraling into a serious relapse. I’ve relapsed off of a simple flu shot.
This is just a weird thing with alt med types. They will try to blame the flu vaccine specifically for anything and everything based on personal anecdote without there even being a biomedical reason why the flu vaccine would have that effect.
They enjoy using the word immunocomprimised outside of the medical understanding of the word and think countless pricey supplements to "boost the immune system are the ancedote. I've read a bit about how certain herbs may "boost" the immune system like reishi and other mushrooms for instance but people are often warned by real doctors that if the studies that find immune "boosting" effects are true, they could trigger an autoimmune disorder. It's like the chronic lymies desperately WANT a real chronic illness.
The doctor who treats my Lyme disease wrote up a full report, detailing my medical history and confirming my high-risk status. The Mystics team doctor (who is awesome, but who’s never treated my Lyme disease) wrote a report essentially deferring to my Lyme disease doctor, and agreeing about my high risk profile. I filed both reports to the league, as required, along with a signed form waiving my right to an appeal.
A few days later, the league’s panel of doctors — without ever once speaking to me or to either of my doctors — informed me that they were denying my request for a health exemption.
This reminds me of a kid trying transparently and pathetically to get out of school.
Even when I went to the right doctor, finally, a Lyme-literate doctor, who properly diagnosed me — even then there was still so much that we had no clue about.
She finally found a TRUE and HONEST doctor guise!!
I think when you’re younger, and growing up, if you’re relatively healthy, you think of the world as very black and white, very solutions-oriented: When this happens, we do that, and then it’s fixed. Or: When I feel sick, I go to the doctor, and then I get better. That was more or less how I viewed things. But then all of the uncertainty with my Lyme diagnosis happened, and I went on that whole journey….. and it really began to hit me, I guess, just how much is out there that we don’t know.
Fair point on chronic illnesses but that is not the case for Lyme disease. It's literally a fucking bacteria you can nuke with antibiotics. So really, as far as medical science understands, it is "fixed" by antibiotics. This is what I mean about these people actually wanting to be chronically ill. People with chronic illness don't normally think
that in detail about BEING chronically ill unless they're depressed.
The one that got dog piled?
I read that as dogpilled and it was hilarious, thank you incel thread!
Benzo WDs can lead to permanent brain damage.
I'm tired of explaining the Ashton Manual to my colleagues.
Is the same thing true for opioid withdrawals? Does everyone need to be on methadone to get off of it safely? Even the malingering pill abusing types?