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Oriental, aka "The East" used to refer to the Ottoman Empire and Persia and technically all the way to China & Indochina. The specific context was essentially so eastern that Europe had no direct contact with it. As the Ottomans never really made it into India, and direct contact was had with the Russians the term never really applied to north-central or subcontinent Asiatic people. Well, people is wrong - Oriental until the end of the 1800s usually refered to Objects, Customs, and Cultures and not people.
That is the Ottoman Empire & satellite cultures used to cover too many racial groups for the term to apply to race or physical characteristics beyond darker hair and a bronzed complexion.

Over time as the Ottoman empire shrank and Europe started having direct contact with east-asia via the sea, Oriental began to apply Sino & Indo-china people, with a definition eventually codified to (essentially) the Qing empire and people of similar location and appearance.


The only problem I have known people (who aren't white liberals looking to be offended) to have is Oriental is Asians when its used to group them in with those other, bad Asians. So Oriental food: Fine. Oriental to refer to other Asian races: fine. Oriental to also group their ethnic hertiage with those shit-tier chinks: WTF I'm not Oriental.

My friends 2nd Generation Chinese girlfriend near got into a fist fight with someone who called her Korean. You can't tell the difference, but they can.
 
Oriental, aka "The East" used to refer to the Ottoman Empire and Persia and technically all the way to China & Indochina. The specific context was essentially so eastern that Europe had no direct contact with it. As the Ottomans never really made it into India, and direct contact was had with the Russians the term never really applied to north-central or subcontinent Asiatic people. Well, people is wrong - Oriental until the end of the 1800s usually refered to Objects, Customs, and Cultures and not people.
That is the Ottoman Empire & satellite cultures used to cover too many racial groups for the term to apply to race or physical characteristics beyond darker hair and a bronzed complexion.

Over time as the Ottoman empire shrank and Europe started having direct contact with east-asia via the sea, Oriental began to apply Sino & Indo-china people, with a definition eventually codified to (essentially) the Qing empire and people of similar location and appearance.


The only problem I have known people (who aren't white liberals looking to be offended) to have is Oriental is Asians when its used to group them in with those other, bad Asians. So Oriental food: Fine. Oriental to refer to other Asian races: fine. Oriental to also group their ethnic hertiage with those shit-tier chinks: WTF I'm not Oriental.

My friends 2nd Generation Chinese girlfriend near got into a fist fight with someone who called her Korean. You can't tell the difference, but they can.
I guess I did forget about the Ottoman/Persian origins. I was thinking in terms of everyday speech used by late-twentieth century Americans rather than the British Museum. Which is horribly ahistoric and shows my parochialism, but in my defense, that’s my right as an American.
 
People who live in 95 percent white neighborhoods are the most anti-white, pro-black people ever, because they haven't had to spend any time around your average hood rat. The only black people they know personally are the Talented Tenfers they went to Harvard and smoked weed with. Their only hope of getting a more rounded view of race is if they get suckerpunched and stomped on by an angry Tyrone in the supermarket, and even then there's a more than 50 percent chance that they'll chalk up the polar bear attack to depression caused by systemic white racism and beg Tyrone's forgiveness for allowing their face to get in the way of his Nikes.

A much better idea would be to put them between a rock and an hard place, between a black ghetto and a latino barrio and watch them changing their tune in 5...4...3... :smug:
 
Here ya go, from the Marxist Race Riots thread, hat tip to @Nahash and @Sammich


Murray Carpenter
94 Union Street, Belfast Maine
207-338-2385
207-338-2012
murrayinmaine@yahoo.com

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/94-Union-St_Belfast_ME_04915_M33923-93168
tiny house,420 square feet,murray ain't doing too good for himself.
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password to his voice mail is 2385, god be with you


Tristan Spinski
13 Upper Round Pond Rd
Bristol, ME 04539

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Nice house. He lives on a pond/stream. It's the kinda place I'd love to live in.
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His Neighbor's house is... $250k for a two story plantation style home.

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River's Edge is a historic and stately antique 3 bedroom home with a 1 bedroom in-law apartment. This home has been lovingly cared for and is move-in ready. Great location central to the Town of Damariscotta, Pemaquid Beach, Round Pond Harbor, local Golf Course - all within 10 minutes! In-law apartment has a separate entrance and generates passive income. Nicely set up for a home business off lower entrance. 350' of water frontage along the Pemaquid River - throw a kayak in and head to the ocean!!
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Correction. A two story plantations tyle home WITH A NAME.

Dear god, housing prices are fucking weird in Maine. That house would be $1,200k or so in my area.
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I can imagine the New York Times is smugly chuckling "Oh look, Tucker Carlson lied yet again" while they're pretending they didn't shit their pants and run for the hills the moment they saw the gloves coming off.
 
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I can imagine the New York Times is smugly chuckling "Oh look, Tucker Carlson lied yet again" while they're pretending they didn't shit their pants and run for the hills the moment they saw the gloves coming off.
I hope Tucker Carlson destroys all these outlets, giving the final blow needed to kill them and their dwindling credibility for good.
 

I think the opening paragraph

Donald Trump has again accused former President Barack Obama and Joe Biden of spying on his administration, which has never been proven. The president claimed if he were to pull a similar stunt then he would face "50 years for treason".

Speaks for itself

Its pretty much definitive at this point that it has been proven and you can bet your ass he would be charged and do serious jail time if he did what obama did
 
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Not to mention that it serves the exact, same fucking purpose. It classifies the entire world as "People who are white, and people who aren't." Hell, I'd go so far as to say it's worse because at least the original terminology only applied to black people, this new one is roping in everyone who isn't white. You don't even get your own fucking classification anymore, you're just "not white."

"Colored People" is a descriptor that describes a particular group

"People of Color" is a catchall that specifically Excludes one group of people

Which one is more in line with Social Justice principles?
 
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It's hilarious that every journopig dreams of uncovering the next Watergate, and they finally, actually, really got the next Watergate, literally the exact thing Watergate was about, and they're refusing to report on it because it was perpetrated by someone with a D beside their name.
Like @It's HK-47 once said, Obama never truly gave up power in the United States. He just works more "behind the scenes" now.
 
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I can imagine the New York Times is smugly chuckling "Oh look, Tucker Carlson lied yet again" while they're pretending they didn't shit their pants and run for the hills the moment they saw the gloves coming off.

The guy behind slatestarcodex is a professional shrink. He CANNOT have his name be published, because if his clients undergoing mental health therapy with him google his name, they need to NOT find a political blog, even though he remains fairly neutral, because it will cause them actual harm to their treatment.

Despite this, NYT blatantly told him they were going to publish his name because NYT has a policy of always using a person's real name in articles. Spoiler: They absolutely do not have any such policy, and 5 minutes of research shows that.

But. The SSC guy is a liberal who doesn't put up with Progressive bullshit. In fact, his blog was one of the last bastions of liberal-but-not-woke on the internet. So of course he had to be destroyed.

Ultimately rather than risk his patients, which he can't do due to his professional obligations, he deleted his entire decade old blog. Which I honestly feel was NYT's goal all along -- they got him to destroy his entire online presence at their command.

So. Was NYT going to publish Tucker's new address?

OF FUCKING COURSE THEY WERE.

Hell, I bet you they already leaked it to Antifa.
 
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The only problem I have known people (who aren't white liberals looking to be offended) to have is Oriental is Asians when its used to group them in with those other, bad Asians. So Oriental food: Fine. Oriental to refer to other Asian races: fine. Oriental to also group their ethnic hertiage with those shit-tier chinks: WTF I'm not Oriental.

My friends 2nd Generation Chinese girlfriend near got into a fist fight with someone who called her Korean. You can't tell the difference, but they can.
The biggest irony of all is that these self-proclaimed protectors of minorities and their mentality are so white American centered (and European centered) they think applying their world view to the entire world works, and they don't see anything wrong with assuming every person with the same skin tone, no matter where they're from, shares the same beliefs and worldview.

That might work for the general population of America or other countries with a lot of immigrants, because for better or for worse the "melting pot" part means children of those immigrants will grow up on that environment, apart from the culture their family comes from and the innate biases it has. But people that are from those countries originally? Good fucking luck with that.

Asians generally do not like people from a different Asian country due to the teeny tiny detail of those countries being at each others' throats for centuries, and insinuating they are all the same is offensive. That and nobody but the Han Chinese and big corporations likes China. Africans have many problems with other Africans and think quite poorly of African-Americans to boot. No matter how many Latinx in the US screech about fully automated luxury gay space communism, people from Latin American countries who actually lived through those governments will have a very different opinion about it.
 
These are always a treat to read. They always do the "Trump can do no wrong" bit, which I think is the key to a lot of this.

President Trump can do wrong, in fact he does wrong somewhat often just like any other person. The difference is that while President Trump's supporters understand this and can forgive or live with mistakes, the anti-Trump contingent cannot abide even a single mistake. And not just from President Trump. Cancel culture in and of itself is a manifestation of an unwillingness to accommodate any imperfection.

Say the wrong thing? You're out.
Wear the wrong thing? Gone.
Have impure thoughts? Thirty years dungeon. No trial.

It's like many evangelical voters have said: They didn't vote for Donald Trump because he was a paragon of their belief structure. They voted for Donald Trump because he said he would be their attack dog despite his different beliefs; and that is exactly what they needed at the time and President Trump followed through on that promise. This isn't complex stuff, but it is outside the realm of acceptable doctrine for the dogmatic leftist who seeks purity of ideal above all else.

Those on the radical/Communist left could take some lessons from the religions they denounce on a daily basis. Forgiveness is at the core of a functional society and it is no coincidence that these thousands-year-old religious structures have incorporated some form of forgiveness into their doctrine. Call religion what you want; but make no mistake that a religion's continued success is intrinsically tied to the continued success of the societies within which they are rooted. Without forgiveness you live in a rigid, unyielding society. People become puritanical monsters and before long conflict is inevitable.

I don't even ascribe to a religion and I can clearly see this is a fundamental truth. The words in the holy books bear no mystical weight for me, but I get what they're driving at. It's a road map for ensuring a successful society at a bare minimum and a path to salvation at its apex. No system or book of guidelines is going to be perfect, but those that stand the test of time at least deserve consideration. And as far as I can tell, over the last 150+ years Communism/Socialism have failed every time and left a trail of destruction in their wake.
 
Not to mention that it serves the exact, same fucking purpose. It classifies the entire world as "People who are white, and people who aren't." Hell, I'd go so far as to say it's worse because at least the original terminology only applied to black people, this new one is roping in everyone who isn't white. You don't even get your own fucking classification anymore, you're just "not white."

It's all a tactic, ultimately, and once POC is ubuquitous enough, it will then become racist and a new term will arise. The point is to always have the ability to abuse someone for lack of willingful subjugation... and nothing else.

What really twists my tits is something more fundamental about all this I can't quite articulate. IT could be found in Marx and the proletariate/bourgeoisie binary, the creep that ensues to encompass more and more people to have the sadistic pleasure of abusing. The Bolsheviks in the 1905-1917 phase against other leftists, the liquidation of actual serfs and farmers by the apparatus of the workers and farmers under Lenin, Stalin, et al.... To the point Orwell having his main character in Keep the Aspidistra Flying unironically want to destroy anyone who makes over 2 quid a week. The Nazi's used the same tactic with the Jews. The Church has used the same tactic historically through Original Sin, to witches, to evangelicals with Rock and Roll and Dungeons and Dragons.

It's all defining a boogey man, applying traits and actions to him which are at best dubious and generally outright false. There's a new sophistication in the structure of it, which I think begins with the 80s feminim movement and the codifying and formalizing of "privilege" and "patriarchy". They are unfalsifiable, but mainly, they are one group KNOWING what another experiences. It's a fairytale of what someone else experiences. I'm sure most of us have seen that stupid male privilege checklist thing from the 90s which some cunt used as her grad paper (iirc). Shit like "I can walk down the street at night reasonably sure of my safety." Bitch, I'm a guy, and there are a LOT of places I can't do that. OR "When I offer an option, people will listen". No, it comes with having the ability to assert your opinion, and to have a history of reliability in that opinion being meaingful. There are lots of women I listen to for insight and perspective, and lots of guys I tune right the fuck out.

It's all a "negative trait" sort of perspective. An "I don't have..." and then insisting it's because "someone else has..." It insists, against their oopponent's bjections, that they can define the reality and experience of another -- another sexual or racial group, to boot. That's kind of the very definition of gaslighting. It's the two plus two equals five, and it's O'Brien's assertion that it is power for power's sake. And it's impervious to argument, since you are making up an unfalsifiable postion and reality for another, and any denial just means they are a bad actor and lying, or unaware of their true nature in need of "education" (or punishment, I suppose). It annot be approached rationally. As well, the meanings of words and actions as well as the fundamental goals, are constantly shifting, sometimes becoming their opposite in the same sentence.

The whole racket is designed as a kafkatrap, and its only purpose is domination and abuse. A lot of it, if looking at the mechanics of the thing, is that of the stereotypical abusive husband and the brain-addled, confused, and terrified of making a mistake beaten wife. Basically, domestic abuse (or psychological torture) writ large, baked into the cake of an ideology which is disturbingly powerful, accepted, and unchallengeable, all with the legitimacy provided by academic, media, medicine, and political actors, not to mention the pederasts of "respected" celebrity music and movie.

End Sperg....
 
@Dracula's Spirit Animal

I really got concerned about how bad and insane things were getting when the pushers of IDPOL told people, say, black people, whose personal experiences didn't match the perceived experiences of their ethnic group (as defined from the outside) weren't "Real" black people or whatever, or had "internalized racism" so they couldn't SEE it happening... and nobody called them on it at all.



-All black people suffer "X", "Y" and "Z"!

-Wait a sec, I'm black, an though I've suffered "X" sparingly, I've never had "Y" or "Z" happen to me

-Then you aren't PAYING ATTENTION! IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME!

-I'm honestly trying to recall when something like that happened, and I'm telling you, honestly, I don't recall it...

-FUCK OFF RACE TRAITOR, IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH MY ANALYSIS OF YOUR LIFE, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM! HEY! THIS GUY OVER HERE! HE'S WILLINGLY PERPETUATING NEGATIVE STEREOTYPES THAT BLACKS DON'T SUFFER! GET HIM! THE UNCLE TOM!!!!

I don't remember exactly where or when I saw it, but, when I saw this very "logical" chain being spread up and down the line from academia up to the editorial page, and you weren't allowed to question it, that's when I knew things were going to get much much worse because they were impervious to reason, and a person impervious to reason eventually attacks reality itself when it won't conform to what they KNOW is "right".
 
@Dracula's Spirit Animal

I really got concerned about how bad and insane things were getting when the pushers of IDPOL told people, say, black people, whose personal experiences didn't match the perceived experiences of their ethnic group (as defined from the outside) weren't "Real" black people or whatever, or had "internalized racism" so they couldn't SEE it happening... and nobody called them on it at all.



-All black people suffer "X", "Y" and "Z"!

-Wait a sec, I'm black, an though I've suffered "X" sparingly, I've never had "Y" or "Z" happen to me

-Then you aren't PAYING ATTENTION! IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME!

-I'm honestly trying to recall when something like that happened, and I'm telling you, honestly, I don't recall it...

-FUCK OFF RACE TRAITOR, IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH MY ANALYSIS OF YOUR LIFE, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM! HEY! THIS GUY OVER HERE! HE'S WILLINGLY PERPETUATING NEGATIVE STEREOTYPES THAT BLACKS DON'T SUFFER! GET HIM! THE UNCLE TOM!!!!

I don't remember exactly where or when I saw it, but, when I saw this very "logical" chain being spread up and down the line from academia up to the editorial page, and you weren't allowed to question it, that's when I knew things were going to get much much worse because they were impervious to reason, and a person impervious to reason eventually attacks reality itself when it won't conform to what they KNOW is "right".
Those that can be made to believe absurdities can be made to commit atrocities, or thereabouts.
 
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