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This kind of reminds me of the Halo deep lore, where humans have risen and fallen like 3 times in the last 10 million years.

God they really blew that series. I still want to know what the fucking precursors are reeeee
 
Ahahahahaha :story: damn. He really got his ego fluffed by slimming down from fat dad to soytits.

i find this return to smexual smouldering hilarious. The only woman on earth who found him and his euphoric fashion attractive was June. She’s kicked to the curb, and he tries to lure the next one with THIS? Greg, you lucked out the first time with an autistic retard, girls.inc are not interested in medieval scissor hands leatherdaddy who thinks giants are real.
 
The libraries and shit in Rome were being burned down by Germanic pagans and good old fashioned looters. The Christian monks were actually the big preservers of knowledge throughout most of the middle ages, up until the enlightenment started. Most of the classical literature from ancient Rome and Greece was kept and copied repeatedly by monks in monasteries, who were the only ones who had the time and resources to do that shit. Fuck man, just reading Dante's Inferno will let you know that medieval scholars in the 14th century were very much familiar with ancient Roman and Greek culture and knowledge. Also, all the oldest universities in the world, the prototypes for what eventually became the modern university structure? Religious institutions.

The real damage done by the fall of Rome was, unsurprisingly, political. The hub of western civilization basically got Balkanized, leading to thousands of years of on-and-off wars between all the new fractured nations. Big public projects of any kind were now limited to a few major urban centers, and information and goods no longer flowed as easily as it had flowed across the Roman Empire. Everything became more provincial. The Catholic Church actually was generally the exception to this rule because it was a third party that everyone respected, so in many ways it was a big positive, preserving force in a time marked by frequent chaos and bloodshed. I'm not a Catholic, but reading actual history, and not some fedora urban legends, I can see how valuable its influence was during the darkest parts of the "Dark Ages." Eventually it did become too dogmatic and stifling in some areas (punishment of Galileo, prevention of printing the Bible in common languages) but contrary to popular belief these decisions were almost always more about maintaining political control than ignorant superstition. How backwards Medieval Europe was has been grossly exaggerated by fedoras and people with a fetish for every culture except European ones (AKA-white guilt leftists and non-white supremacists of every stripe).

Besides, when it comes to things that set Europe back, the fall of old Rome has nothing on the Black Death. In many parts of Europe, 60% or more of the population died. The whole continent got depopulated in a way that wasn't seen again until the Native Americans contracted western diseases. Considering how the world is currently struggling with a little cough, the idea that enlightened atheism would have stopped the plague is doubtful, to say the least, especially since despite not understanding germ theory, they were practicing quarantine procedures and doctors wore protective gear that was actually fairly effective, even if they misunderstood why it worked.


No matter what outfit he wears, he always looks like a member of a very lame, edgy poseur rock band.
While I like your take on the "dark ages" (fucking hate this term by the way). I feel your missing out on how the Muslims did a lot to preserve the knowledge of Rome and Greece as they took over and, frankly, looted byzantine cities. Of course, it was an unknowingly combined effort by scholars of different religious faiths (Catholics preserved Roman Italian knowledge and Muslims preserved byzantine Roman knowledge) that allows us to have such a surprisingly deep understanding of two ancient periods of civilization.

Things were also not that terrible for the common man during this tumultuous time period either. Living as a peasant was actually not that bad Just see what peasants ate and the life expectancy rose from the mid 30's to the mid 40's due to the increased protection that feudal kingdoms offered. After all, the roman empire had extremely poor local governance due to governors having little incentive to protect their citizens due to them being foreign and collecting revenue through tax rather than direct resources.

kings, dukes and counts on the other hand had a strong incentive to protect their people as they were kin with them and relied on the much smaller population to till land for resources. Meaning the creation of more castles in areas the Romans would not have built them and training peasants for war, which unintentionally teaches peasants to protect themselves, rather than supporting a far too expense professional army. Not to mention that catholic alms allowed many homeless and destitute people to survive long enough to seek out work in an urban area or be granted a plot of land to tow for their liege, something the Romans would not do. in an "enlightened" atheist society this technologically deficient the knowledge of ancient history along with people who were poor and destitute would die off and ironically stagnate society further. Most people don't realize that religious worship was actually very practical and beneficial to a growing society, even if the people of that era didn't realize what they were doing was actually helping society as a whole.
 

Looks like a MtF lesbian doing a Mad Max cosplay

With tiny, tiny transbian arms.

Groog seriously needs to hit the gym. It seems like he thinks he can diet, without actually working out. He's gonna end up a flabby skinnyfat at this rate. Can you imagine a ripped Groog? I can't.




@Joe Swanson @Doctor Placebo @Chilson I read your posts, here's my perspective. I'm not for or against religion btw, I see this as more cultural stuff and the consequences of cultural clashes.

So here's more OT sperging on the dark ages.

Back during the time Jesus would have been alive, right after Julius Caesars death, Christianity WAS becoming a popular "new age" religion, if you will, that promised something Roman religion did not: An amazing afterlife. Heaven was a big sell, and the threat of HELL was arguably and even bigger sell. Roman polytheism didn't believe in the same type of afterlife as Christians do.

Christians also did things like, condemn the gladiator fights, which also sold the bleeding hearts of the Roman world on Christianity. (Objectively, the gladiator fights were "the best way" of getting rid of animal pests (like bears) and barbarians/"war criminals" that they captured. Inhumane but they had their purpose I suppose since the old world was violent all around)... Arguably Christianity was it's own weird "cult" at the time, but things got more heated when Roman officials punished some problematic Christians by throwing them into gladiator rings, too. It appears this only happened in extreme cases, but this reeeeeally backfired and lead to conflict since Christians started screaming oppression and went on the spiritual warpath and said they were being mass murdered essentially. There were several historical riots around this time.

Also want to add: Christian opposition to gladiatorial games turned out ironic when Christians started with witch burning, sooooo, yeah, humans just suck apparently.

Christian book burning was an objectively true event. It happened more than once in the dark ages. The Arab world was pretty advanced, but they didn't exactly have a desire to prop up Europe considering how many times they tried to invade it. Rome's culture itself was on thin ice for the next century after Julius Caesar was assassinated and empire unification slowly went to shit. But Christianity itself was a few more nails in the coffin as it eroded Roman polytheism and replaced it with monotheism. It's correct a lot of other factors contributed, but the thing is that Rome itself was very advanced for its time, and a lot of advancement died with it. They were relatively civil as it comes for cultures at the time (many others were literally barbaric and savage, like the Germanics and Carthaginians).

The lack of bathing (and people bathing in gross recycled bath water due to lack of indoor plumbing), also contributed to the plagues. Plus lack of sanitation (people shitting and pissing the same rivers they drank from, for example, which they didn't always realize was bad), this just made the plagues worse and arguably caused them to be as a bad as they did. Rome just did not have this problem, they had indoor plumbing, fountains, sewage systems, aqueducts which delivered fresh water to the cities--they were a marvel of the time, they were extremely clean people. This kind of engineering was destroyed for a while.

Also, on the monks, you are correct. They were very interested in knowledge preservation. It's historically known that the monks were their own culture away from the politics of priests and the pope. They saved things that other parts of the church would actually prefer to destroy or at least censor. Monks still to this day preserve ancient texts and artifacts in secret, away from possible danger. The church itself was EXTREMELY self obsessed, violently punished non-believers, and pushed people towards a culture that focused only on god. Ultimately, things changed in the renaissance when the politics from the first millennium had long passed, and people were naturally discovering things again. Science, art, and history had a new life, which simply wasn't happening earlier due to the impediments and literal cultural witch hunting.

The dark ages were labeled as such, due to the regression of scientific advancement and focus on witchburning for things we would consider normal, today. Many of the great things that came out of the medieval world can be attributed to the later periods, generational changes from culture cooling down by roughly year 1,000 and after. And, of course, the Renaissance when science came into vogue again.


tl;dr a lot of stuff was destroyed out of spite and it wasn't great for human advancement, but we got over it.
 
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This kind of reminds me of the Halo deep lore, where humans have risen and fallen like 3 times in the last 10 million years.

God they really blew that series. I still want to know what the fucking precursors are reeeee
Well the original plan was for the Forerunners to be humans, who made plans for earth to be seeded after they activated the rings. Making humanity on earth about about 100 000 years old.
But 343 found that boring and made up some bullshit about a Human-Forerunner war to create more drama, and then creating an even more ancient race than the forerunners
 
Well the original plan was for the Forerunners to be humans, who made plans for earth to be seeded after they activated the rings. Making humanity on earth about about 100 000 years old.
But 343 found that boring and made up some bullshit about a Human-Forerunner war to create more drama, and then creating an even more ancient race than the forerunners

iirc the precursors were always hinted at vaguely as the sort of god like creatures that existed before and achieved Tier-0 status and left the galaxy. not sure whether the hints that the Flood were them were pre-343 or not though.

this is officially a Halo Lore thread now
 
Well the original plan was for the Forerunners to be humans, who made plans for earth to be seeded after they activated the rings. Making humanity on earth about about 100 000 years old.
But 343 found that boring and made up some bullshit about a Human-Forerunner war to create more drama, and then creating an even more ancient race than the forerunners
I'd have preferred if they did this, TBH. "The ancient astronauts were humans all along" is kind of an obvious twist, but it seems more fitting and satisfying than what we got. It also could be used to help explain in some way why the Covenant thinks humans are such a religious abomination when they're cool with all shapes and sizes of other species, which I never thought the series explained very satisfactorily.
 
I'd have preferred if they did this, TBH. "The ancient astronauts were humans all along" is kind of an obvious twist, but it seems more fitting and satisfying than what we got. It also could be used to help explain in some way why the Covenant thinks humans are such a religious abomination when they're cool with all shapes and sizes of other species, which I never thought the series explained very satisfactorily.
In the original lore the Forerunner AI on Truth's ship identifies the humans as Reclaimers, and they show up with similar signatures to forerunner relics the Covenant has found. The implication of course being that the Humans are Forerunners. The three prophets who witness this revelation become the Hierarchs Truth, Mercy and Regret, and they supress this knowledge and order the destruction of the humans to prevent the Covenant from shattering from the revelation that the forerunners didn't pass on to paradise
 
I'd have preferred if they did this, TBH. "The ancient astronauts were humans all along" is kind of an obvious twist, but it seems more fitting and satisfying than what we got. It also could be used to help explain in some way why the Covenant thinks humans are such a religious abomination when they're cool with all shapes and sizes of other species, which I never thought the series explained very satisfactorily.
it seems like a pretty good explanation to me. The Hierarchs want to keep ruling the covenant. If they reveal that humans are forerunners (in the old lore, not the new shit lore) then not only will they de-deify their gods, they will also lose control of the covenant to humans. Or at least there will be massive civil wars over who gets to rule the covenant (hierarchs or humans). Getting rid of humanity and painting them as devils in their faith is simply the easiest way to maintain power and keep the covenant united.
 
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This is trying to be edgy and falling so flat... Daddy vaush is proud though
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we live in a society fuck the right wing though
 
I forgot that she had a goddamned Armored Skeptic dakimakura pillow made. Going to drown myself in Lethe, now.
I still think it's creepy that she ever had it made. That cost actual money lol. It really does scream "GIANT FEMALE NEET"

Just imagine her cry humping it at night. I wonder if she threw it out?

Do you think they had a fight before breaking up, where she sent him photos of the body pillow in the trash? I kinda do.
 
This chart isn't that inaccurate, the dark ages were 1,000 years of Christians fucking up everything. Rome was fairly advanced, then they burned it down (lol antifa) and did things like burn down all libraries, and convert bathhouses into churches. (Why bathe when you can pray?)
This is a horribly outdated perception of the time period, as is the lame ass chart. We are talking about a 1000 year history that contrary to popular perception, had multiple renaissances and dark ages.

Very little changed with the "fall" of the Western Roman Empire: a Roman Emperor was usurped by a Romanized German Emperor who swore fealty to the Byzantine/Eastern Roman Emperor. Zeno. The period of time from 476 AD until the mid 6th century was actually a time of growth and prosperity for much of Europe, especially the Byzantine Empire. It was in the mid 6th century however that the Plague of Justinian began, which was just as deadly if not deadlier than the Black Death; between 25 million and 100 million died. Massive depopulation occurred that only worsened due to frequent wars against the Persians in the east and the Ostrogothic kingdom in Italy. Northern Italy, for example, was so devastated that the invading Germanic Long Beard tribe/Langobards/Lombards just moved in with little conflict to found modern day Lombardy. Major building projects were put on hold or cancelled due to lack of funds and manpower, such as this church ruin in Greece:
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It was around this time that baths were largely abandoned for a variety of reasons. Due to the massive loss of life, you had less engineers and architects to repair centuries old aqueducts and water systems. . Even Marcus Aurelius criticized the Roman baths three centuries earlier at Rome's height, calling them disgustingly filthy. You see, the health benefits of ancient Roman baths was way overstated. The water in the baths was rarely replaced and was full of sweat, dirt, and worse. By the 5th century, Roman baths were more associated with prostitutes and street gangs than hygiene. This doesn't mean that people back then didn't bathe; it was instead done in private or by the river. The image of a dirty peasant having an inch of mud on his face 24/7 is a overcorrection of the Errol Flynn Merry Olde England fantasy. Even in Anglo-Saxon England, we have records of a priest telling his congregation to make sure to take baths on Saturday or he wouldn't let them in the church.
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On top of all this chaos, Islam exploded out of Arabia and took advantage of the weakened Persians and Romans, resulting in the almost complete annihilation of Persia and the Zoroastrian faith and the conquering of nearly 2/3 of the Christian world by the 8th century. Europe would experience Islamic slaver raids and looting expeditions frequently for the next 400 years until the First Crusade (including that time Islamic armies sacked and desecrated the original St Peters Basilica in 846. Even so, you still had people like Isidore of Seville, who composed the Etymologiae, an encyclopedia of ancient literature, in 6th-7th century Spain.

The rise of Charlemagne and his Karling descendants in the 8th century would result in a new age: the Carolingian Renaissance. An emphasis on documentation and literacy led to a massive increase in manuscripts and art.
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Charlemagne himself conducted research on the efficacy of growing certain herbs and vegetables in church and private. The three field agricultural system was established over the ancient two field system. Italic script and the question mark was invented at this time. A modernization and Teutonization of ancient Roman aesthetics was born; called Romanesque, which let northern Europe develop its culture separate from the Byzantine dominated south. Old Roman instruments were reinvented and brand new ones were created in order to write new styles of music.
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Dozens of churches, cathedrals, palaces and other structures were built throughout Germany, Italy and France such as those below:

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This time period would end with the increasing intensity of the Viking raids and the break up of the Carolingian Empire into France and the Holy Roman Empire, but yet another rebirth would happen soon after. The 12th century Renaissance, as it is known, began due to a combination of the European Warming period and the increased volume of trade between the Levant and Europe after the First Crusade. Climate change meant grapes could be grown in England to create wine and wheat could be grown in Iceland. A surplus of food led to a population boom. By this time, the average caloric intake was higher than that of the average Roman in ancient times. You have the birth of Gothic architecture and the university system where philosophy, theology, law, and ethics were openly debated amongst peers. New statues and funerary art would rival that of the Greco-Roman world
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You had medieval scientist priests (yes, scientists) like Roger Bacon who researched optics and was the first European to compose the chemical composition of gunpowder. Saint Albert the Great who devoted his life to astronomy and natural law. Matthew Paris was a cartographer who created specialized maps from London to Rome which included illustrated depictions of famous landmarks for travelling pilgrims like a travel brochure. Saint Bonaventure, John Peckham, William of Ockham... You even had women like Hildegard of Bingen, a German nun who wrote medical treatises based on research done in the convent garden in addition to writing philosophy, psychology manuscripts and music. Her advice and council was sought after by religious authorities throughout the region.

The upright windmill was invented and proliferated throughout Europe. Military technology rapidly changed during this time and army recruitment moved from the old Germanic feudal system to a mercenary contract system. Fashion would change increasingly more frequent, especially women's fashion. Fabrics like cotton were first introduced. Armor and weapons would constantly evolve and adapt against once another to the point where major changes happened on a decade by decade basis.

This period of prosperity would end for a brief time due to the end of the Warming Period around 1300, a series of crop failures throughout Europe, the beginning of the Hundred Years War in 1337, and of course, the Black Death until the beginning of the Italian Renaissance.

Truly, it was this kind of euphoria from the youtube skeptics that made me utterly loathe their brand of pseudo-intellectualism and geek chic. I'd rather hang out with a YEC than a smug secular sophist, and thats even if I wasn't a Christian.

To be more on topic, what kind of personality do you kiwis think June will attach to next? I know I'm hoping for an Islamic conversion and give Amy Ramadan a run for her money.
 
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This is trying to be edgy and falling so flat... Daddy vaush is proud though
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we live in a society fuck the right wing though

As a conservative myself, I'm glad she's not on "our side." She can stay where she is all she wants. Misery loves company, and if she wants to appeal to the same people that worship the likes of Vaush or ContraPoints, then she "gets what she fucking deserves."

She's a bully, and yet a coward all at the same time. She talks so much shit, and then when someone actually asks her to back it up, she deflects, sics her online white knights on that person for daring to question her, or completely ignores what is addressed to her even when she has lied about someone (*cough cough* Steven Crowder Amazon Echo debacle *cough cough*).

Plus, the image she presented about herself with the BDSM shit with Greg. Not a good look at all. She's embarrassing.

Yes, Shoe: Never become a conservative while you are still on a public platform. Please and thank you.

On a side note, I just love how she's acting all high and mighty about Milo Yiannopoulos' recent comments about "deplatforming/cancel culture/whateverthefuck." Pretty large boast for someone who wants to befriend Comrade ContraPoints, and was responsible for what happened with Candid ...
 
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