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The Kiwifarms china floodwatch 2020 thread. It was good, until the usual reactonary bunch came by and turned all interesting aspects of it into dumb speculation, retard hot takes and chicom hatred.
Creative works you enjoyed until politics happened - "How politics made me hate Welcome to Nightvale and other things"
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There's a really groundbreaking director named Leni Riefenstahl who made this arthouse drama called "The Blue Light." Gorgeous nature scenes, weird fairytale plot, it's a little bit of a hidden gem.
She got offered a lot of money to work on a right-wing political campaign, and everything she made after that was nauseatingly ideological. People still praise her later stuff for being influential and technically innovative, but the politics make it nearly unwatchable.
She got offered a lot of money to work on a right-wing political campaign, and everything she made after that was nauseatingly ideological. People still praise her later stuff for being influential and technically innovative, but the politics make it nearly unwatchable.
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As of late a lot of metal bands (more like every musician not just metal) have been very annoying and kinda disgusting with their support of the rioting and "ACAB" shit.
I can tolerate a lot when it comes to opinions of bands/musicians/artists if they are contrary to mine. For example, I really enjoy System of a Down even though most of the band members are pretty much socialist types and the message of their music is a bit autistically leftist.
However when you are supporting (and donating money to) people and organizations that are actively engaging in rioting, looting and murder it becomes less about disagreement and more about their character. It's just gross manipulation to get the lowest common denominator involved in your hate campaign. "Woah this band I really like says I should donate money to some rioters bail fund? Ok I will!"
Get fucked if you think I will support your subversive efforts to destabilize the nation.
I can tolerate a lot when it comes to opinions of bands/musicians/artists if they are contrary to mine. For example, I really enjoy System of a Down even though most of the band members are pretty much socialist types and the message of their music is a bit autistically leftist.
However when you are supporting (and donating money to) people and organizations that are actively engaging in rioting, looting and murder it becomes less about disagreement and more about their character. It's just gross manipulation to get the lowest common denominator involved in your hate campaign. "Woah this band I really like says I should donate money to some rioters bail fund? Ok I will!"
Get fucked if you think I will support your subversive efforts to destabilize the nation.
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I hate it when metal bands glorify rioting, looting, and murder through awesome guitar and brutally harsh vocals. I miss the good old days (2005) when their subversive messaging was totally empty and meaningless.
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It's always funny to me since half of the people that this cynical form of signalling is supposed to attract will hate this genre of music for being "too white".
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Batman. Specifically its crazy popularity boom and ultimate ruining of Harley Quinn. I absolutely adored the character back in her BtAS days when she was a crazy, but ultimately lovable airhead. I thought the Harley-Joker dynamic was really interesting in that it was very abusive but in their own weird way, they were also really crazy about each other. Nowadays they are determined to keep the character as far from the Joker as possible in order to pump her up as a feminist Deadpool. It's obnoxious.
Also all the morons that take the homoerotic Batman/Joker subtext seriously. They HATE each other. They're not about to actually start banging each other. Their dynamic is that of balanced need, good and evil, light and dark, etc..
Also all the morons that take the homoerotic Batman/Joker subtext seriously. They HATE each other. They're not about to actually start banging each other. Their dynamic is that of balanced need, good and evil, light and dark, etc..
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Now, Batman and Robin, on the other hand....
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I'm really into the web comics and online horror, so the stuff that I like (and been ruined) have threads on here as well.
First up Homestuck, Acts 1 - 5 were great, Act 6 was bad, Act 7 was a disaster. however, Hussie (the creator) made things even worse by starting Homestuck 2.0 which is being written by a crazy SJW called Kate
SCP Foundation, a horror writing collabortive community got over taken by troons and pc types, it also doesn't help that Admin/Mod Team is full of pedos
Check these out if you really want see how downhill it gone down
First up Homestuck, Acts 1 - 5 were great, Act 6 was bad, Act 7 was a disaster. however, Hussie (the creator) made things even worse by starting Homestuck 2.0 which is being written by a crazy SJW called Kate
SCP Foundation, a horror writing collabortive community got over taken by troons and pc types, it also doesn't help that Admin/Mod Team is full of pedos
Check these out if you really want see how downhill it gone down
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-2721
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-3015
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-3090
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-3312
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-3625
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-3677
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-3999
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-4004
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-4231
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-4335
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-4444
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-4669
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-4950
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-5004
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-5554
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-5821
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-3015
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-3090
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-3312
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-3625
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-3677
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-3999
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-4004
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-4231
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-4335
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-4444
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-4669
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-4950
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-5004
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-5554
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-5821
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Speaking of webcomics, Paranatural went from a fun shounen-esque adventure comic whose author would leave little puzzles for 4chan to having an entire page dedicated to explaining what nonbinary is and how its tots awesome .
Though, in fairness the neverending months of hiatus because the author totally had carpal tunnel syndrome led to some fun wristposting.
I personally dropped it at the beginning of the dodgeball arc that took way too long, led absolutely nowhere, and was so tryhard quippy I wanted to gouge my eyes out, though I am curious about how its doing now. I've heard he's added a queer disabled woman of color, one more and he'd would have had bingo.
Though, in fairness the neverending months of hiatus because the author totally had carpal tunnel syndrome led to some fun wristposting.
I personally dropped it at the beginning of the dodgeball arc that took way too long, led absolutely nowhere, and was so tryhard quippy I wanted to gouge my eyes out, though I am curious about how its doing now. I've heard he's added a queer disabled woman of color, one more and he'd would have had bingo.
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Feel free to sneer, but I used to really like Casualty. Yes, that Casualty. The BBC's destined never to end medical drama set in a hospital. Word of advice - never get sick in a soap, because this is where they'll take you. The Emergency Department of Highly Defective People.
It all started in about 2011 or so. Well, that's when I started watching. Series 27. It was actually rather good. It helped that a lot of the cases and injuries were based on actual happenings in real life including some very improbable ones (incl. people eating tapeworms to lose weight, food poisoning outbreaks from exploited illegal immigrants having to shit in the fields, person knocked out by airbag, etc.) and because they had actual medical professionals on staff they actually averted a lot of the worst aid tropes from TV and film. Like, never attempt to bridal carry someone from the scene because you might hurt them more (unless they're in immediate danger like the middle of a road or something's about to fall on them or similar), never pull penetrating injuries out of someone because it might have hit an artery and be all between them and spurting bright red arterial blood. It was also quite fun to try to guess how each person was going to get mangled and it often tried to play with you in that respect. Gymnast practicing a high bar routine with fat friend? Think she's gonna fall off and snap her leg? Nope, she dismounts, the fat friend gets in the way and is kicked in the head by accident, falls funnily onto pommel horse and breaks neck. That sort of thing.
In 2013 they did a really ace double episode about FGM. And it wasn't shoehorning an issue. It explored the moral dilemma and whether it's the place of a medic to actively step in to prevent it.
It also helped that they had really quite good actors and actresses. Sunetra Sarkar as the hard drinking, sweary, chain-smoking Northern consultant Dr Zoe Hanna did well. Amanda Mealing as Connie Beauchamp who was kind of a Karen before Karens were a thing, only she was also in charge so we had a wonderful deconstruction of what happens when Karen is the manager (nothing good, as it happens.) Dylan Keogh the grumpy autist doctor who lives on a boat and has endless struggles with alcoholism (one episode saw him doling out repeated shots of whisky with a measuring cylinder.)
Then, about 2018 or so, it arseholed almost all the longest serving characters except Charlie Fairhead (who'd been in it since the very start) and replaced them with... a shopping list of obvious talking points. Like, the gay half-Iranian male nurse whose sole character trait was "stereotypical mildly camp gay" and then they subverted our expectations by having his white British father turn out to be unable to deal with his coming out and his Iranian and very traditional mother was frankly okay with it. Like, the stronk black wahmen doctor who we were infodumped was constantly fired for whistleblowing. Possibility of exploring the frankly horrific treatment of NHS whistleblowers in recent years? Nope, just make her stereotypical fierce woman of colour. Like, the senior manager (a white male, of course) whose job it was to raise standards and who basically sneered and tromped around and acted like a pantomime villain. Like, the fat bird who marries and has a kid with a terminally ill chap who dies tragically at the reception (which decamps to the hospital after he's taken there because they don't want to have to spend more money on location shooting) one of the most manipulative scenes I've seen recently. (It's only a matter of time until Robyn start spouting HAES talking points now, frankly.) Like, the troon mortuary worker.
In short, it fell victim to al-Beeb's newly found insistence on "starting a conversation." Episodes started almost always having "if you have been affected by the issues in this programme, call our hotline" voiceovers over the credits. Yes, I too am the closeted gay football hooligan brother of a neo Nazi football hooligan whose parents were acid attacked by Islamists but don't want to upset my homophobe brother because he'll beat the shit out of me and I'm also secretly fancying the above gay male nurse and he knows and I know he knows etc. That was an actual storyline from a 2018 episode by the way.
It all started in about 2011 or so. Well, that's when I started watching. Series 27. It was actually rather good. It helped that a lot of the cases and injuries were based on actual happenings in real life including some very improbable ones (incl. people eating tapeworms to lose weight, food poisoning outbreaks from exploited illegal immigrants having to shit in the fields, person knocked out by airbag, etc.) and because they had actual medical professionals on staff they actually averted a lot of the worst aid tropes from TV and film. Like, never attempt to bridal carry someone from the scene because you might hurt them more (unless they're in immediate danger like the middle of a road or something's about to fall on them or similar), never pull penetrating injuries out of someone because it might have hit an artery and be all between them and spurting bright red arterial blood. It was also quite fun to try to guess how each person was going to get mangled and it often tried to play with you in that respect. Gymnast practicing a high bar routine with fat friend? Think she's gonna fall off and snap her leg? Nope, she dismounts, the fat friend gets in the way and is kicked in the head by accident, falls funnily onto pommel horse and breaks neck. That sort of thing.
In 2013 they did a really ace double episode about FGM. And it wasn't shoehorning an issue. It explored the moral dilemma and whether it's the place of a medic to actively step in to prevent it.
It also helped that they had really quite good actors and actresses. Sunetra Sarkar as the hard drinking, sweary, chain-smoking Northern consultant Dr Zoe Hanna did well. Amanda Mealing as Connie Beauchamp who was kind of a Karen before Karens were a thing, only she was also in charge so we had a wonderful deconstruction of what happens when Karen is the manager (nothing good, as it happens.) Dylan Keogh the grumpy autist doctor who lives on a boat and has endless struggles with alcoholism (one episode saw him doling out repeated shots of whisky with a measuring cylinder.)
Then, about 2018 or so, it arseholed almost all the longest serving characters except Charlie Fairhead (who'd been in it since the very start) and replaced them with... a shopping list of obvious talking points. Like, the gay half-Iranian male nurse whose sole character trait was "stereotypical mildly camp gay" and then they subverted our expectations by having his white British father turn out to be unable to deal with his coming out and his Iranian and very traditional mother was frankly okay with it. Like, the stronk black wahmen doctor who we were infodumped was constantly fired for whistleblowing. Possibility of exploring the frankly horrific treatment of NHS whistleblowers in recent years? Nope, just make her stereotypical fierce woman of colour. Like, the senior manager (a white male, of course) whose job it was to raise standards and who basically sneered and tromped around and acted like a pantomime villain. Like, the fat bird who marries and has a kid with a terminally ill chap who dies tragically at the reception (which decamps to the hospital after he's taken there because they don't want to have to spend more money on location shooting) one of the most manipulative scenes I've seen recently. (It's only a matter of time until Robyn start spouting HAES talking points now, frankly.) Like, the troon mortuary worker.
In short, it fell victim to al-Beeb's newly found insistence on "starting a conversation." Episodes started almost always having "if you have been affected by the issues in this programme, call our hotline" voiceovers over the credits. Yes, I too am the closeted gay football hooligan brother of a neo Nazi football hooligan whose parents were acid attacked by Islamists but don't want to upset my homophobe brother because he'll beat the shit out of me and I'm also secretly fancying the above gay male nurse and he knows and I know he knows etc. That was an actual storyline from a 2018 episode by the way.
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When I was a teenager me and my mates used to call them up and complain about how shit the episode was or deliberatly miss the point-for example we'd say we wanted to know were all the people in chester had gone. On one hand it was childish and might clog up the line for people looking for help on the other hand it was Holyoaks.
Also Casualty had an episode where a crime army destroyed the hospital for poorly defined reasons.
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It was because they changed filming locations from Bristol to Cardiff so it was kind of a "torch the set and run" thing.
Oh, and I have never willingly watched Hollyoaks. I remember my ex left it on once because there was shit all else and she had too much of a headache (even post aspirin) to sneak upstairs for some how's your father, and a character somehow pulled a gun out of a potplant during an argument.
Do Hollyoaks still do those cheesecake calendars of the stars in a hotel swimming pool in a state of undress, or is that too problematic for current year?
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The only time this has really worked, to me, was a very specific interpretation of Batman, specifically Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth. Grant Morrison intentionally wanted to portray that Batman as sexually repressed, and The Joker there was specifically acting homoerotically to make Batman uncomfortable because he thought it would be funny.
Regarding Harley Quinn, I tend to find the character grating outside Btas. But they pulled an interesting twist on her and Joker in Batman: White Knight, which, after years of suffering through Scott Snyder and Tom King, was a welcome miniseries.
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No idea, I tend only to see it when my sisters daughter is around, she loves that shit. I only really enjoyed it when Evil freddy mercury was in it. Watching him be a complete prick with the unlikable cast and chew the scenary was great fun.
Good night sweet prince. My only regret is you never did cross over where you kicked the shit out of Phil and Ian beele in eastenders.
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There's http://www.rpc-wiki.net/ at least.
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Tbh I used to think it was just the MCU/DCU that's ruined for me, and that the comics could still be okay.
Then, The New Warriors was announced, and honestly, now I'm just more curious what kind of drugs they're getting at the Marvel branch at Disney, because that must be some good shit.
Maybe J.K. Rowling is their supplier, because Christ, never seen an author retcon so much of their own published work got the sake of politics, and I say that as a begrudging Blizzard fan.
Then, The New Warriors was announced, and honestly, now I'm just more curious what kind of drugs they're getting at the Marvel branch at Disney, because that must be some good shit.
Maybe J.K. Rowling is their supplier, because Christ, never seen an author retcon so much of their own published work got the sake of politics, and I say that as a begrudging Blizzard fan.
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The New New Warriors, with Snowflake and Safespace (which I thought was some sort of parody when first I heard of it), and Screentime, who had powers from EXPERIMENTAL INTERNET GAS.
Bugger me with a fishfork, this isn't just politics, this is stupidity.
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There was an episode I saw recently, the first SNL I've watched in years tbh. Cold open was Brad Pitt as Fauci, and, even though I didn't find it funny, I could at least dissect that sketch and say "okay, here's the setup, here's the punchline." It wasn't funny (to me), but at least the anatomy of a joke was there. But later, the episode had a sketch that devolved into one of the cast members just screaming "SHAME ON YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, SHAME ON YOU, SHAME ON YOU." Sorry, but I thought I was watching a comedy show? There wasn't even an attempt at a joke and THAT'S really what drives me up the wall. At least if the bones of the joke are there, I can give them points for that, even if I, personally, don't find it funny. But just nonsensical screaming at the president? That's just propaganda at that point. At least Pete Davidson's song with Adam Sandler got some laughs out of me
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They're not even trying. Wasn't that the programme where they got half a ton of easy laughs by pointing out that Donald Trump is an anagram of "Plod Turd Man" and spent the rest of the episode just milking that one barely funny gag.
Then again, I remember in the 2000s there were loads of American "comedians" who made a living off repeating "BUUHHH GEORGE DUBYA BUSH LOOKS LIKE AN APE."
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I honestly can't recall if the episode had "Plod Turd Man" in it or not. It was a few months ago, and outside of a handful of moments, I tuned it out. I think a lot of political humour has always been lazy, and I tend to avoid it in general, but it feels like it's gotten a lot worse, and inescapable, over the past few years, and stopped all attempts at even trying to be funny. For example, I really liked The Colbert Report back in high school. I watched nearly every episode, and Stephen Colbert, the exaggerated caricature, was hilarious to me. Stephen Colbert, the actual guy, in his current show, just sucks