China Floodwatch 2020-21 - Wuhan, Hubei/Henan Province is sinking and I dunno how to swim.

[BeboRefugee]

So what's the ETA on cleanup here? I don't personally think TGD is gonna collapse. At the absolute worst case I could see silt inhibiting outflow, or maybe some hill nearby sponging a load of water and it overflowing that way, but surely destroying all the adjacent infrastructure and the assorted bridges, buildings, and property damage in cities downstream is gonna hit them hard?

Other countries are talking about relief funds in millions and billions to jumpstart the economy post-covid, but these countries suffered 0 infrastructure damage. Where is China gonna get the money to fix all this shit, and how long will it take?

 

[Jimmy Durante's Ballsack]

So what's the ETA on cleanup here? I don't personally think TGD is gonna collapse. At the absolute worst case I could see silt inhibiting outflow, or maybe some hill nearby sponging a load of water and it overflowing that way, but surely destroying all the adjacent infrastructure and the assorted bridges, buildings, and property damage in cities downstream is gonna hit them hard?

Other countries are talking about relief funds in millions and billions to jumpstart the economy post-covid, but these countries suffered 0 infrastructure damage. Where is China gonna get the money to fix all this shit, and how long will it take?

The rains will stop some time in August or September. Cleanup doesn't start until then.

 

[robobobo]

Given that Chinese construction crews don't seem too hung up on things like drainage or foundations, judging from the videos of their buildings randomly falling over, the overflow alone could be catastrophic to their cities as the soil becomes completely saturated. It would be literally undermining the earth from beneath the structures, with the predictable results arriving shortly after.

 

[Jimmy Durante's Ballsack]

Given that Chinese construction crews don't seem too hung up on things like drainage or foundations, judging from the videos of their buildings randomly falling over, the overflow alone could be catastrophic to their cities as the soil becomes completely saturated. It would be literally undermining the earth from beneath the structures, with the predictable results arriving shortly after.

This is my primary concern with the dam itself. As I understand it the Three Gorges Dam is not built into the bedrock and simply rests on the riverbed.

 

[Stoneheart]

Hindutva ideology believes that Indians are the master race and that the rest of the world is civilized because people from India traveled out and enlightened them.

im pretty sure they mean white people---

 

[muh_moobs]

not quite socialism, but definitely unions. unions supported by trade restrictions, taxes that scale up for companies that have production in "low pay" nations- make it cost them just as much or more, to use cheap labor in other countries. not tariffs either, they'll just raise prices. taxes, basically. you produce it all here, all the jobs are here, your corporate rates stay low. you hire out of the country, your taxes go up. make it aggressive as fuck too.

Taxes are all you need. Trump bent Ford over by simply threatening to tax their cars so much that no one could afford them. They got in line real quick.

 

[Cutlass Supreme]

Could China's reduced emissions output back when the pandemic began have something to do with this fucky weather? I don't know how any of that works but I remember the weather worldwide was strange whenever the lockdowns in China and the west first began. Now that things are beginning to reopen and factories are coming back there might have been a sudden pop of emissions that could cause a dramatic swing in the weather. Maybe something like that is possible, idk.

 

[I can't imagine]

So what's the ETA on cleanup here? I don't personally think TGD is gonna collapse. At the absolute worst case I could see silt inhibiting outflow, or maybe some hill nearby sponging a load of water and it overflowing that way, but surely destroying all the adjacent infrastructure and the assorted bridges, buildings, and property damage in cities downstream is gonna hit them hard?

Other countries are talking about relief funds in millions and billions to jumpstart the economy post-covid, but these countries suffered 0 infrastructure damage. Where is China gonna get the money to fix all this shit, and how long will it take?

It'll take months for the water to drain from many of the affected areas, based on past history. The effect on the agricultural areas won't really be known until then; potentially, the land won't be suitable for planting next year. The rebuilding could potentially take years, particularly in areas that pretty much need to have the destroyed dams rebuilt before they can even realistically consider rebuilding the towns.

The last few big floods in China had damage in the tens of billions of dollars, and I'd expect this would be similar; officially, they're saying $9.2 billion as of today, but it's likely to increase significantly from that before all is said and done. And that's just the damage; there's also the costs of evacuation, cleanup, care for the evacuees, prepping the land for rebuilding, etc.

That said, it still would "only" be of a similar magnitude to the 1998 floods at that point, which they managed to survive through, albeit with support from the international community. How much support the international community would or could offer China, in the midst of their own economic challenges and China's increasingly aggressive nature, will remain to be seen.

 

[Rei is shit]

Given that Chinese construction crews don't seem too hung up on things like drainage or foundations, judging from the videos of their buildings randomly falling over, the overflow alone could be catastrophic to their cities as the soil becomes completely saturated. It would be literally undermining the earth from beneath the structures, with the predictable results arriving shortly after.

All their high speed rail lines have the same issue. I wonder how many miles will need to be replaced

 

[Jump]

Just think of all that industrial waste and the nasty chemicals being spread all over their farmland. They have really made a nice toxic soup for themselves.

 

[Jimmy Durante's Ballsack]

It'll take months for the water to drain from many of the affected areas, based on past history. The effect on the agricultural areas won't really be known until then; potentially, the land won't be suitable for planting next year. The rebuilding could potentially take years, particularly in areas that pretty much need to have the destroyed dams rebuilt before they can even realistically consider rebuilding the towns.

A thought came to me as I finished this paragraph. Are most of these people going to be returning to their small villages? You've got ready-made cities that need bodies to fill the vacant and crumbling apartment blocs. The CCP can solve their "flooding" problem by not having people in the way of the flood. Then again you lose out on agricultural production as farming zones will become vacant.

But I wouldn't be surprised if a fair amount of these people do not return to their villages.

 

[mindlessobserver]

It'll take months for the water to drain from many of the affected areas, based on past history. The effect on the agricultural areas won't really be known until then; potentially, the land won't be suitable for planting next year. The rebuilding could potentially take years, particularly in areas that pretty much need to have the destroyed dams rebuilt before they can even realistically consider rebuilding the towns.

The last few big floods in China had damage in the tens of billions of dollars, and I'd expect this would be similar; officially, they're saying $9.2 billion as of today, but it's likely to increase significantly from that before all is said and done. And that's just the damage; there's also the costs of evacuation, cleanup, care for the evacuees, prepping the land for rebuilding, etc.

That said, it still would "only" be of a similar magnitude to the 1998 floods at that point, which they managed to survive through, albeit with support from the international community. How much support the international community would or could offer China, in the midst of their own economic challenges and China's increasingly aggressive nature, will remain to be seen.

Long story short, the rice bucket of the Chinese economy has been absolutely trashed. In order to stave off a famine, for the next two years they will need to import massive quantities of food.

There is only one country on the planet that is capable of both feeding itself and China at the same time. Can anyone guess which country that is?

 

[spiritofamermaid]

Long story short, the rice bucket of the Chinese economy has been absolutely trashed. In order to stave off a famine, for the next two years they will need to import massive quantities of food.

There is only one country on the planet that is capable of both feeding itself and China at the same time. Can anyone guess which country that is?

Hmmm... it couldn't be the country that is currently preparing for a cold war against China, right?

 

[Archeopthryx]

Long story short, the rice bucket of the Chinese economy has been absolutely trashed. In order to stave off a famine, for the next two years they will need to import massive quantities of food.

There is only one country on the planet that is capable of both feeding itself and China at the same time. Can anyone guess which country that is?

Australia?

 

[JosephStalin]

China just got some payback for infecting the rest of the world with the ChiCom Flu. NFG for China.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

Australia?

You can eat dirt and sand now?

 

[Archeopthryx]

You can eat dirt and sand now?

Australia is a main source of beef and wheat for China. Well, used to be.

 

[Basil II]

im pretty sure they mean white people---

Indians are paternally descended from White people who migrated from the Ukraine thousands of years ago, so in a way you're kindof right.

 

[Borax Bozo]

Australia is a main source of beef and wheat for China. Well, used to be.

Let's see whether the greenies in their ministry don't freak out and stop all beef exports again.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Long story short, the rice bucket of the Chinese economy has been absolutely trashed. In order to stave off a famine, for the next two years they will need to import massive quantities of food.

There is only one country on the planet that is capable of both feeding itself and China at the same time. Can anyone guess which country that is?

Maybe they can ask the UN to force Wakanda to help.