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But the short version is that Rowling is just copy-pasting the most virulent baseless propaganda she can find on militantly radicalized hate groups.
Like we're talking about sideways vagina, extra foot bone, steal children to coat brooms in blood levels of bigotry here.
As was my point with this thread here, the average person is so ignorant about all things trans as a baseline that people frequently assume baseline assertions from bigots are as based in fact as they treat them, but it takes VERY little research to debunk. It's not just that the arguments they make are disingenuous. It's that the basic fundamental points you have to take completely for granted for their arguments to even make coherent sense are so plainly untrue that no one making any effort to check could possibly believe them.
It's never like, a reasonable person and a raging bigot read the same paper, or saw the same presentation, and drew different conclusions from it. The bigot just flatly states the paper or presentation does not exist, and proclaims that everyone knows that water is dry.
Just as a recent example, a bigot behaving well enough at first to humor was attempting to engage me in some discussion about "new testing methods for transgender women in the 2020 Olympics."
There's a pretty thorough wikipedia article on this here, with sources.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_people_in_sports
Every statement I was making in this conversation could be pretty easily checked against that, or various other easily found sources, save for my clarification of the minimum level of testosterone needed to be detectable at all in a blood test, that I just know because I get'em).
If someone were to get argumentative about that because they refuse to take my word for anything, and didn't care enough to want to learn anything, but... no this is someone who actively sought me out to firmly shout direct contradictions to the most basic fundamental facts here.
This person REALLY wanted a narrative wherein:
- The Olympics were even being held this year.
- Trans women were slated to compete.
- Some time-tested trans-woman-detector was identified just this year.
- Trans women are not allowed to compete.
- 5 is a larger number than 10.
These... aren't the sort of points that are up for any sort of reasonable debate. There is no conflicting source anywhere that asserts any of the above. We'd be dealing with some completely hidden and never discussed repository of secret knowledge containing these hidden truths, and also an ASTOUNDINGLY vast and powerful conspiracy to... widely spread lies that seems a bit hard to swing, what with the Olympics being televised, posting their own guidelines, etc. and no clear motive for why anyone would have any incentive whatsoever to organize such.
Then of course once that avenue proved fruitless, the tactic switched to asserting that my trivia about the complete lack of any trans women ever excelling in any given sporting event was "berry picking" [sic]. Insinuating that there are, I suppose, hundreds of examples I had omitted. Again, this simply isn't how reality works. To accuse someone, in good faith, of "cherry picking," one needs to be actively aware of some vast quantity of conflicting examples.
This is literally like if I said "no woman has ever served as president of the U.S." and someone came along to shout at me that I'm only looking at 45 specific examples. That's all there are. This sample size is 100% of the population of the group. There are no secret woman presidents, and there is no secret stash of world champion trans woman athletes. It's pretty rare to be a along to shout at me that I'm only looking at 45 specific examples. That's all there are. This sample size is 100% of the population of the group. There are no secret woman presidents, and there is no secret stash of world champion trans woman athletes. It's pretty rare to be a which to support this firm belief that I am misrepresenting the truth, which is... frankly surreal.
But not at all uncommon in transphobe dogma. We have this whole hate group screaming themselves hoarse about young gay children whose parents force them to transition so their sexual desires will be considered straight but no such child actually exists for them to be defending. They rant on about rapists in public restrooms despite not even having one single anecdote to base the claim on. To get really blunt about it, they say this is a photo of a man.
They write these weird as hell fantasy stories about "breast milk sack implants" and women whose vaginas are actually just "open wounds full of hair."
https://twitter.com/secretgamergrrl/status/1065131130989568000…
Possibly the most popular thread I've ever written was about a woman whose friends filmed her walking up to a stranger on the street, brutally assaulting them, with straight up manhandling and knees to the ribs, then going on a media tour claiming the video shows clearly how she was actually the victim of this assault she committed.
This whole story exists:
and it's one that isn't even a one-off event. There are multiple people who go around slapping these crude penis stickers everywhere.
One of the "respected voices" in this movement got herself booked on a talk show for a "serious debate" just to spent the whole time chanting the word "penis" over and over at the top of her lungs-
https://dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5708261/Viewers-slam-appalling-Channel-4-Genderquake-debate.html…
It is mind-blowing to see just how vile and disconnected from reality this whole crowd is, and when you look at who, specifically, says these things, then look up their actual careers, it's unbelievable.
I don't mean "unbelievable" in the sense of "just horrible." I mean you see that a frothing tinfoil hat weirdo screaming absurdities has a regular weekly column in like The Guardian and is a frequent consultant for government policies and your brain goes "this can't be true."
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