Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Fluoxetine Man]

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Marvel comics employees living in squalor with rat infested studio apartments ---CONFIRMED

Jesus, I actually feel sorry for Shitterson...No wonder these cucks are mad at Ya Boi and FROG. I'd be mad too if I had to squeeze mice to death in a shitty apartment while the barista at Starbucks makes more than me, all while the 'enemy' is thriving making 'problematic' works you're being told don't sell.

 

[GranDuke]

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Marvel comics employees living in squalor with rat infested studio apartments ---CONFIRMED
How's that twitter checkmark working out for ya'll? Putting food on the table? Keeping you warm at night? Diversity in comics is a sham designed to keep wages low masquerading as "opportunities" for people of color.
No black person I know wants the opportunity to live in a rat filled apartment. These white nerds are always on their high horse saying "look CG hates minorities!" Lmao I would never wish Marvel wages on a minority in NYC.
The only CGers living in squalor are Ethans paypigs one of whom claims to be homeless but still uses his cash to fund Cyberturd.

Obviously this is not the sole or even main reason, but I now kinda understand why so many people working for these companies end up being radical lefties with "capitalism bad, whites are evil" takes. I mean, who wouldn't think that system is broken if he was working as editor/writer for one of the top entertainment companies and earning close to nothing?

And sure, most of them lack the talent to earn more in such positions and are hired because:
a) it will look nice in latest marketing push
b) companies save money on such hires

But its not like they are "in on this", to them it looks like they finally made it and after couple of years will get the big break. But it never comes and if they start asking questions they get quietly showed aside, while new diversity hires replace them.

 

[Smug Freiza]

How is JSG OG and not Capn Cummings?

I was conflicted in where to place Capn Cummings on my list but I don't regret my choice. Cummings is still too intertwined with Comicsgate drama (see the Peter Simetti swatting saga) to merit being placed in OG-CG or Ex-CG who largely ignore the movement. He also lacked any connections to The God Squad or Comicsgate™ to be placed in either of those two groups. The only connections I've seen Cummings maintain are his association to the Comicbook Hut and Jon Del Arroz, so I placed him with Jon.

I'd obviously point out that Cummings is not inherently alt-right, but rather separated on the grounds of creative differences on how the movement should conduct itself moving forward from internet muck raising on youtube. In truth perhaps Cummings belongs in none of the groups similar to the Comicbook Hut.

Second round... @Smug Freiza and @Mister Dongs !? This time on DA Talks.

I wonder how you guys manage to get around.

Well it looks like the cat is out of the bag now, time to confess.

Several weeks ago @Mister Dongs and I were approached for a cordial livestream with the SWC brothers to discuss Comicsgate and the drama surrounding it. Mister Dongs and I were both apprehensive about appearing on a stream and putting our voices out there, however I felt the opportunity was too good to just dismiss entirely.

I instead arranged for a pair of imposters to represent us, which produced what was actually quite an entertaining stream, arguably one of the SWC brothers best.

The big reveal will always be something that I treasure.

Questions still lingered though about whether or not we were in fact the guests that appeared on the above livestream, so myself, Glenn and Mr Dickard (the imposters) arranged a confessional stream with the youtuber DA Talks. This confessional also happened to coincide with some embarrassing information that I and several of the Weeb Wars kiwis had discovered about Dean's brother, Crow, an "I Stand With Vic" Weeb Wars youtuber.

Either way I'd like to thank Thomas Roilup and Patriarchalape for the invitation and for being such fair sports about it all. I actually did appreciate the offer from them to share their platform with myself and Dongs, as opposed to the likes of Liam Gray who banned me from his youtube chat.

For anyone who enjoyed the show put on by Glenn and Dickard, they're starting their own youtube channel which will cover everything from Comicsgate, Weeb Wars, retards on the internet, along with news and current events in a podcast format.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

Damn. Using comics as a stepping stone to Hollywood is actually the smart move, huh? Assuming you dont want to start your own company like Zack I mean...

 

[GoPro]

Jesus, I actually feel sorry for Shitterson...No wonder these cucks are mad at Ya Boi and FROG. I'd be mad too if I had to squeeze mice to death in a shitty apartment while the barista at Starbucks makes more than me, all while the 'enemy' is thriving making 'problematic' works you're being told don't sell.

I wouldn't. Squeezing mouse to death part sounds like bullshit. Having experience being poor, you always get reusable traps to save money in the long run. Classic spring traps are cheap and kill mice instantly in vast majority of cases. Box traps that electrocute mouse caught in them are even better if you do not want to look at the carcass and want the mouse dead 100% of the time. Glue traps are single use, they smell, they expire, they are not as effective in certain environments, glue loses strength over time, mouse does not die instantly and mice can either escape or learn how glue smells and avoid it. I can't even imagine setting one of those in a living space. Once mouse is caught you will be subjected to constant squeaking and rustling until mouse dies. You have to be a sadist or a mouth breather to get a glue trap. And why not kill mouse quickly with a whack against a wall? Squeezing to death is just torture.
Once again, it sounds like complete bullshit. If Aubrey was poor and did not like squeezing mice to death, he would make his roommate deal with mice killing or get more humane and reusable traps. Most likely, he is just a coddled kid from middle-upper class family who never had to deal with serious troubles and he made this up for attention. If the story is true, Aubrey Sitterson is a psychopath.

Chuck Dixon is his own unique group since his exit precedes Comicsgate and his cause is, uniquely, based on veneration for authorial intent. The story goes that, like any good writer Dixon would try to write Batman true to how he perceived the character; for example Batman depicted as hating guns because one was used to shoot his parents although Dixon was personall pro-TA. Comics have always been left-of-center, and apparently critics had regularly come to Dixon with the objections that the Big Two were in the business of pumping out politically slanted agitprop but Dixon dismissed this as bias from conservative fans, falling back on his own personal experience to the contrary. This possibly naiive delusion was broken around 2003 when Marvel decided to publish a MAX series of Rawhide Kid, one of Marvel's dead line of Western-genre comic IPs was selected and remade to be campishly, flamboyantly, Sina Grace-level gay, transforming a generic western protagonist into a brightly colored assless chaps cockvortex. Dixon was flattened at hearing this as it confirmed that everything everyone was telling him, that the Big Two's respect for their own creations came second to pushing a political agenda and that all this time Dixon was a willing participant in creating left-wing propaganda and in self-denial about it. He's been self-blacklisted ever since.

Amusingly enough, Marvel created the MAX imprint to compete with DC's Vertigo. It goes to show how dumb and out of touch Marvel management was when they thought that Vertigo was nothing but edgy comics.

Damn. Using comics as a stepping stone to Hollywood is actually the smart move, huh? Assuming you dont want to start your own company like Zack I mean...

It can be and always was. People like Brian K Vaughan and Wachowskis started in comics, but then went on to dabble in TV and Movies. This kind of died down after mid to late '00s. Warren Ellis is the only notable one who managed to do it in recent years, but that's because Netflix has low standards. Now the go to strategy is to get an adaptation deal. It arguably ruined indie and creator owned comics market to a degree. There is a flood of movie and TV industry rejects trying to turn their scripts into comics hoping to make the script easier to sell, or hacks shitting out rushed concept pieces fishing for deals.

 

[Analog Devolved]

Obviously this is not the sole or even main reason, but I now kinda understand why so many people working for these companies end up being radical lefties with "capitalism bad, whites are evil" takes. I mean, who wouldn't think that system is broken if he was working as editor/writer for one of the top entertainment companies and earning close to nothing?

And sure, most of them lack the talent to earn more in such positions and are hired because:
a) it will look nice in latest marketing push
b) companies save money on such hires

But its not like they are "in on this", to them it looks like they finally made it and after couple of years will get the big break. But it never comes and if they start asking questions they get quietly showed aside, while new diversity hires replace them.

Shitterson, the guy infamous for his big gay GI Joe and getting into fights with adult toy collectors on forums would rather asphyxiate rats to death than for one second tease the idea that maybe WOKE SJW diversity hiring is the main problem facing the big 2.

The big 2 offer fully paid books and weak inexperienced editorial staff give free reign to writers to shit out IDpol books that no one wants to collect or read.
Sina Grace complains he was gatekept from writing more faggot iceman shit when there are thousands of SJW's willing to do the same job for free if it gets their foot in the door.

No one wants to talk about how gatekeeping fags like Kelly Sue give power to guys like Warren Ellis to run Weinstein casting couches for new comic talent.

Most comic pros only have a few hundred followers on twitter and make most of their money selling sketches and prints at conventions. Without cons this year were finally seeing them bitch about pay.

Comicsgate hasn't helped any by promoting shit tier books like Wart the Wizard and whatever Wenger is doing and that God awful Anna cover its just more of the same shit. Instead of rewarding skill they reward loyalty to the party. $25 bucks for TUG's sonichu book or $25 for Malin's retarded failed abortion of a comic is disheartening for anyone who understands quality and a boon to every Tom dick and Harry who see this third grade level art makings tens of thousands of dollars and thinking "hey I can do that too!"
The rise of retards like Micah and Liam hasn't proved CG is about good or better comics only that sucking van scivers dick gets you access to paypigs who will buy anything. Current CG is the perfect argument for any SJW. All they have to do is hold up a copy of Wart and say "lol this is what Ethans comicsgate thinks is good" and they are right.
CG has boiled down to a fight between SJW's living in squalor and Ethan fanboys with less than zero talent arguing about money.

The only real winners here are the doug ernsts and Tim lims who used CG to build an audience then cashed out of Ethans clown show and got as far away from him as possible.

 

[Yamma Damma]

Damn. Using comics as a stepping stone to Hollywood is actually the smart move, huh? Assuming you dont want to start your own company like Zack I mean...

It's more of a gamble than a smart move. There's never a guarantee that Oprah's Book Club or the NYT Bestsellers List will pick up your rinky dink book and deem it worthy of attention by the public. Same goes for any form of entertainment company that makes stuff for screens. More people watch things than read them but if you can get both done, you're set for life. But that's only if what you make is worth the effort in the first place which, let's be honest, their works really aren't.

The smart move in my opinion would be to start your own company like Yaboi did (and Todd McFarlane before him) because at least you'd be your own boss and can make your own hours and decisions. The Big 2 (or any company really) does NOT tolerate lateness, low sales turnout, insubordination, juvenile behavior or unionizing. But making your own company and brand takes hard work. And you know how these people feel about hard work. So like some kiwis said earlier, I hope the bragging and blue checkmarks were worth the mice and starvation.

It can be and always was. People like Brian K Vaughan and Wachowskis started in comics, but then went on to dabble in TV and Movies. This kind of died down after mid to late '00s. Warren Ellis is the only notable one who managed to do it in recent years, but that's because Netflix has low standards. Now the go to strategy is to get an adaptation deal. It arguably ruined indie and creator owned comics market to a degree. There is a flood of movie and TV industry rejects trying to turn their scripts into comics hoping to make the script easier to sell, or hacks shitting out rushed concept pieces fishing for deals.

I wouldn't call his Castlevania netflix series low standards at all. (by the way the whiny bitches got Ellis off the project after the new season so it's heading for the trash. )

Well now that Hollowood is having their icons rejected (ComicCon@Home was a bust. A convention with only panels is not a fucking convention), they're not greenlighting anything until they clean house. So now these bottomfeeders have to come up with another way to "easy" money. The future they chose.

 

[A nameless trool]

These people are fucking retarded. Marvel pays in packets of bird seed to absolute fucking losers who have zero hope of employment elsewhere with their wokeshit trash. Agents work off a percentage, often 10% of what the client earns. No fucking agent is going to work for 10% of what a McDonald's employee would turn their nose up at.

You'd be surprised how few money many literary agents get. They have to work for years until they get a paycheck, because publishing is notoriously slow. If an agent can get 30 freelancers* to do monthlies commition, they can get decent side-gig money.


*basically extort writers and editors to work with them or else... The Heather Antoses of this world found their dream jobs. And you can see that it makes the freelance market even worse

Obviously this is not the sole or even main reason, but I now kinda understand why so many people working for these companies end up being radical lefties with "capitalism bad, whites are evil" takes. I mean, who wouldn't think that system is broken if he was working as editor/writer for one of the top entertainment companies and earning close to nothing?

And sure, most of them lack the talent to earn more in such positions and are hired because:
a) it will look nice in latest marketing push
b) companies save money on such hires

But its not like they are "in on this", to them it looks like they finally made it and after couple of years will get the big break. But it never comes and if they start asking questions they get quietly showed aside, while new diversity hires replace them.

I would say that YBZ and the rest of OGCG were complaining that they got McDonald's level quality comics and service, made by people who were paid what a burger-flipper makes...
It is not wokeness that is the problem, it is capitalism gone rogue, you overcharge people who want the newest Heroman comic made with the least ammount of money spent. And you hire the most vocal detractors about the fact that you are not diverse to turn it into Herowxman so they can shut the fuck up AND have the Disney higher-ups who read their tweets and believe there is a diverse audience out there leave them alone to profit.
Now, if you can feed those niggers flipping your comics that they are Changing The World© then they will keep working for pennies on the dollars you make out of them.

Fuck it, Marvel is less progressive than a pre-Civil War plantation atm...

 

[GranDuke]

The big 2 offer fully paid books and weak inexperienced editorial staff give free reign to writers to shit out IDpol books that no one wants to collect or read.

I remember before CG one of the big talking points in comics was how writer X gets to do whatever the fuck he wants ignoring established continuity and what is happening at the same time in other books. I mean, what editors are doing if they can't inform Bendis that X is not Y? Well, as it turns out they were busy strangling rats in their apartment.

 

[GoPro]

I wouldn't call his Castlevania netflix series low standards at all. (by the way the whiny bitches got Ellis off the project after the new season so it's heading for the trash. )

Castlevania is horrible as an adaptation. It just changes things around for the sake of being subversive and nothing else.
If you disconnect it from the source material, it's just mediocre in my opinion. I can't ignore poor animation, mumbling, MCU-like quipping/buffyspeak, and overused cliches, but it might not bother others as much.

I remember before CG one of the big talking points in comics was how writer X gets to do whatever the fuck he wants ignoring established continuity and what is happening at the same time in other books. I mean, what editors are doing if they can't inform Bendis that X is not Y? Well, as it turns out they were busy strangling rats in their apartment.

Well, that's not due to editors alone. In fact it's a combination of bad editors, writer's popularity, and nepotism. Even if you are a good editor serious about the job, someone like Bendis can just complain to his fans or his higher-up buddies like Brevoort. If either happens, you get into trouble and might be kicked out or demoted. If you want to keep your job, you can only stand up to someone like Bendis when you are 100% sure that higher ups will back you and Bendis won't be able to persuade them.

 

[AnOminous]

Jesus, I actually feel sorry for Shitterson...No wonder these cucks are mad at Ya Boi and FROG. I'd be mad too if I had to squeeze mice to death in a shitty apartment while the barista at Starbucks makes more than me, all while the 'enemy' is thriving making 'problematic' works you're being told don't sell.

Fuck Shitterson and fuck his gay G.I. Joe vandalism.

Castlevania is horrible as an adaptation. It just switches things around for the sake of being subversive and nothing else.

And look at Warren Ellis's reward for sucking the troon cock. CANCELLED.

 

[Mister Dongs]

And look at Warren Ellis's reward for sucking the troon cock. CANCELLED.

Warren Ellis' reward was having the comic industry cover for his nerd girl harem for decades up until the exact moment he abandoned them for Netflix cash and no longer had clout to dole out in exchange for continued suppression of criticism of his behavior.

 

[Analog Devolved]

Warren Ellis' reward was having the comic industry cover for his nerd girl harem for decades up until the exact moment he abandoned them for Netflix cash and no longer had clout to dole out in exchange for continued suppression of criticism of his behavior.

The time has come.

 

[CheezzyMach]

So we've got yet another example of an obnoxiously woke company being fake and just using it to shield their shitty business practices and get asspats from Twitter retards?

2020 just keeps on giving.

 

[Carmina Burana]

Gotta admire Art Thibert for not backing down or apologizing to the SJW mob over the "these guys laughed at Tess Foulest's cancer (even though the video shows they didn't)" narrative:

What he says here is 100% accurate, but that doesn't stop the wokestapo from attacking, like this fat faggot (who's only "famous" because he used to be friends with Frank Cho):

Art, to his credit, demonstrated how you deal with these SJW's, by ignoring them & enjoying life:

He strikes the right note here by not endlessly arguing (like EVS does) or apologizing (as if he's done anything wrong.) Pay attention, people!

In other comics news, living legend, Trump supporter, & artist & raconteur once photographed with EVS, Jim Steranko kicked a hornets' nest with this innocuous tweet about life during Chinavirus:

Not controversial, you may say, but a couple of Zircherian comics "pros" decided to try to make a name for themselves as....whiny scolds, I guess?

Spoiler: NOT WELL KNOWN BUT WOKE AF

This bullshit happens way too often. I think it's safe to say Twitter was a bad idea.

 

[Mister Dongs]

The time has come.
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[Water-T]

LOL. There's a name I haven't heard in a while. I have a friend who used to run in his circles, and she told me that not only is Scott Kurtz shaped like Jabba the Hutt, but he was a total asshole to anybody that he couldn't use to boost his career.

If that obese loser doesn't have a thread on here, he certainly deserves one. He's an easily triggered lolcow like the douche that makes Shortpacked/Dumbing of Age.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

The time has come.
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Idk Ethan did cry when some sjw found his bankruptcy/divorce documents.

 

[boofit]

"cry"

 

[NasserRabadi13]

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GOLD