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Remember that Poles and Irish and Italians actually had the same deficits that we now see in Muslims and Africans, and for the most part that worked out well (the Mafia being a notable exception, but I question whether the Mafia would have been a big deal if not for Prohibition.)
I think Islam is far more culturally difficult than Irish Catholicism. There’s far more meshing of church and state to the point religion and politics are one. There’s never been a process of modifying the core beliefs for a modern society.
"Running out of money" is a badly framed problem for a sovereign nation. At this scale, money represents tangible and non-tangible resources. So which actual resources are scarce?
Aside from Norway, which has a sovereign wealth fund that is the equivalent of fiscal spending for something like seven years, the others are not doing as well. Sweden is feeling the impact of cuts to health in a big way, and previously sacrosanct services are being nibbled away at.
Housing is scarce in Sweden - almost all rentals are official through a few rent controlled companies so you either go in the first hand list and wait or you rent second hand with no protection and it’s impossible to find a place. How long do you wait? Well three years in a shitty ghetto area and 25 in the centre of Stockholm. The combination of rent controls and the explosion in urban population makes it incredibly difficult to find a place to live.
There’s huge pressure in school places - there were a few hundred kids not found places in one city near Stockholm in more than one year.
So yeah, there’s definitely pressure on resources. Don’t be fooled by the fact most of the country is forest - almost everyone lives in towns and cities and the amenities there are creaking under the strain. It’s not good.
 
Also when you're sparsely populated and don't have to fund the military budget of yourself as well has the better half of a continent an ocean away.
Sweden kinda worked when their main immigrants were random Finns and they still had a big-ass army, navy, and air force with plenty of innovative designs in warships, tanks, and fighters, enough that Hitler didn't press Sweden harder than they did. They kept it up for most of the Cold War too. Finland had something similar going too.
 
First of all, given the trends hinted at by the Flynn effect, we probably haven't seen the actual proper IQ range of African and Middle Eastern phenotypes. Genes matter, but childhood nutrition matters a LOT more. So just because these cultures tend to produce stupid people, doesn't necessarily mean it's phenotypical - their kids could turn out to be geniuses with a proper diet and education. (Remember that before they went crazy in the 1300s, the Muslim world was basically the center of culture, learning and research west of China.)
Blacks in Darkest Africa and blacks in the best parts of the US with the highest quality of life have the exact same IQ range. Transracial adoption studies confirm that even when raised in upper middle class white families with perfect nutrition they are still low IQ. They are just not as smart as everyone else. That's fine, but it means they're not going to integrate with a complex societal structure easily or well.
 
I think Islam is far more culturally difficult than Irish Catholicism. There’s far more meshing of church and state to the point religion and politics are one. There’s never been a process of modifying the core beliefs for a modern society.

Aside from Norway, which has a sovereign wealth fund that is the equivalent of fiscal spending for something like seven years, the others are not doing as well. Sweden is feeling the impact of cuts to health in a big way, and previously sacrosanct services are being nibbled away at.
Housing is scarce in Sweden - almost all rentals are official through a few rent controlled companies so you either go in the first hand list and wait or you rent second hand with no protection and it’s impossible to find a place. How long do you wait? Well three years in a shitty ghetto area and 25 in the centre of Stockholm. The combination of rent controls and the explosion in urban population makes it incredibly difficult to find a place to live.
There’s huge pressure in school places - there were a few hundred kids not found places in one city near Stockholm in more than one year.
So yeah, there’s definitely pressure on resources. Don’t be fooled by the fact most of the country is forest - almost everyone lives in towns and cities and the amenities there are creaking under the strain. It’s not good.
Blacks in Darkest Africa and blacks in the best parts of the US with the highest quality of life have the exact same IQ range. Transracial adoption studies confirm that even when raised in upper middle class white families with perfect nutrition they are still low IQ. They are just not as smart as everyone else. That's fine, but it means they're not going to integrate with a complex societal structure easily or well.

That seems exceptionally weird, given the amount of white admixture in the US black population. Do we have any idea what genes are involved, and what they code for?
 
The funny thing about the Scandanavian model, is that it actually is amazing, but now that it's being infected by US-style social justice politics, it's starting to destroy itself.

"Give everyone a good equal start and redistribute surplus wealth, but otherwise leave people to earn their place, and then responsibly teach them to *want* to earn their place" actually achieves true social mobility, which means people wind up sorting each other out into a social hierarchy more or less on merit - which, as it turns out, is actually healthy and rather pleasant to live in!

But then you wind up with an equity-based philosophy being imposed from outside, and the whole system starts neurotically picking itself bloody worrying about whether the existence of a hierarchy at all implies some kind of moral failure.

Look, if I lived in a culture where the people who had more control over my life than I do got there because they were smarter and more compassionate and more civically-minded than I was, I'd basically call that heaven. It would mean that I could *trust* the companies that built my products and the people who ran my government to *do their jobs well* and not fail me due to malevolence or incompetence.

The Scandanavian system *worked*; I have no fucking clue why they'd want to take cues from a broke-ass system like the US.

Also, the Scandinavian model works because the Nordic countries are small in both population and geographic range. The United States has too many people and too much ground to cover for that system to properly work.

I think Islam is far more culturally difficult than Irish Catholicism. There’s far more meshing of church and state to the point religion and politics are one. There’s never been a process of modifying the core beliefs for a modern society.

True. This is why it pisses me off that so many of the (((traditionalist))) "race realist" fucktards will dismiss the Latinos for not being white when they have far more in common culturally with the European ethnics and their descendants than Muslims or inner-city blacks.

The Latino community tends to be blue-collar traditionalist Catholics, it's one of only two major unifying traits among the different Latino groups in the United States (the other is the Spanish language) and the high rates of crime and poverty tend to be concentrated in the urban areas with high rates of immigrants and first and second-generation Latino Americans.

The same thing was seen with the Irish and Italian immigrants in the 19th Century. The old Irish Mob and Italian Mafia weren't that different than the Latino street gangs of today prior to the one-two punch of Prohibition and the Great Depression allowing them to become organized crime powerhouses.

However, the Democratic Party wants more captive voter blocks, and they actively go out of their way to make sure there's a steady wave of new arrivals and discourage any attempts at assimilation (making it easier to get them on the gibs long-term) and resolving the border and proper immigration reform will go a long way in alleviating that
 
That seems exceptionally weird, given the amount of white admixture in the US black population. Do we have any idea what genes are involved, and what they code for?
Short answer: maybe.

For the long answer, molecular geneticists have serious suspicions about differences in IQ due to different genes regulating the growth of the brain in childhood, but studies of the genes causing intelligence differences across all the human subspecies touches on a suppressed science. You can lose your job for writing about it, except in a tiny handful of fields which aren't looking directly for IQ.

There are some suggestions that the low average black IQ and the propensity towards violent crime are linked through a defect in one or more members of the family of genes that codes for the Monoamine Oxidase enzyme, an enzyme that regulates the levels of signaling chemicals in the brain. White sufferers of Brunner Syndrome, who have a seriously dysfunctional coding gene in this gene family, have an average IQ of 85 in addition to a far higher rate of violence than the average white person.

Upwards of 70% of American blacks possess a moderately dysfunctional gene in this family, with 6% possessing a seriously dysfunctional one (Brunner Syndrome). Compare that to around 30% of whites with a moderately dysfunctional gene and nearly 0% with a seriously dysfunctional one (it's anywhere from 0.1 to 0.5 percent but it's so rare it almost never appears in the white cohort of a study).
 
Short answer: maybe.

For the long answer, molecular geneticists have serious suspicions about differences in IQ due to different genes regulating the growth of the brain in childhood, but studies of the genes causing intelligence differences across all the human subspecies touches on a suppressed science. You can lose your job for writing about it, except in a tiny handful of fields which aren't looking directly for IQ.

There are some suggestions that the low average black IQ and the propensity towards violent crime are linked through a defect in one or more members of the family of genes that codes for the Monoamine Oxidase enzyme, an enzyme that regulates the levels of signaling chemicals in the brain. White sufferers of Brunner Syndrome, who have a seriously dysfunctional coding gene in this gene family, have an average IQ of 85 in addition to a far higher rate of violence than the average white person.

Upwards of 70% of American blacks possess a moderately dysfunctional gene in this family, with 6% possessing a seriously dysfunctional one (Brunner Syndrome). Compare that to around 30% of whites with a moderately dysfunctional gene and nearly 0% with a seriously dysfunctional one (it's anywhere from 0.1 to 0.5 percent but it's so rare it almost never appears in the white cohort of a study).

Woah, thank you for the infodump! I'm off to do some research, but while I'm away, why do you suppose the alleles would be so well-preserved within each phenotype, given how much mixing we know has gone on between the two populations? Is there something in the cultural environment of each population that selects for its particular variant of the gene?

Update: I *think* I have a model for why these genes would stay stable across generations even given inbreeding, but it doesn't really mesh well with standard white ethnostate talking points.
 
Woah, thank you for the infodump! I'm off to do some research, but while I'm away, why do you suppose the alleles would be so well-preserved within each phenotype, given how much mixing we know has gone on between the two populations? Is there something in the cultural environment of each population that selects for its particular variant of the gene?
Update: I *think* I have a model for why these genes would stay stable across generations even given inbreeding, but it doesn't really mesh well with standard white ethnostate talking points.
It's a recessive sex-linked trait. Women can be carriers for the defective gene and pass it on to male and female offspring without suffering the negative effects.

Here are some studies on the link between defective genes and delinquency.
 
It's a recessive sex-linked trait. Women can be carriers for the defective gene and pass it on to male and female offspring without suffering the negative effects.

Here are some studies on the link between defective genes and delinquency.
Also, the genes' effects may not necessarily be "negative" within the environments in question.
 
Also, the Scandinavian model works because the Nordic countries are small in both population and geographic range. The United States has too many people and too much ground to cover for that system to properly work.



True. This is why it pisses me off that so many of the (((traditionalist))) "race realist" fucktards will dismiss the Latinos for not being white when they have far more in common culturally with the European ethnics and their descendants than Muslims or inner-city blacks.

The Latino community tends to be blue-collar traditionalist Catholics, it's one of only two major unifying traits among the different Latino groups in the United States (the other is the Spanish language) and the high rates of crime and poverty tend to be concentrated in the urban areas with high rates of immigrants and first and second-generation Latino Americans.

The same thing was seen with the Irish and Italian immigrants in the 19th Century. The old Irish Mob and Italian Mafia weren't that different than the Latino street gangs of today prior to the one-two punch of Prohibition and the Great Depression allowing them to become organized crime powerhouses.

However, the Democratic Party wants more captive voter blocks, and they actively go out of their way to make sure there's a steady wave of new arrivals and discourage any attempts at assimilation (making it easier to get them on the gibs long-term) and resolving the border and proper immigration reform will go a long way in alleviating that


And thusly, we run into the greatest of calamities of American immigration reform.

"Give me your poor, your tired,
your huddled masses yearning to be free."


American children, even in the bluest of blues, are taught that we are a 'great American melting pot', that we are an amalgam of all of the greatest and brightest of all the world's countries, when, in fact, this is not the case. The Irish were poor farmers, the Cajuns were dejected religious outcasts, the Puritans were much the same, and many of even our earliest immigrants were those who could not find success in their homelands and chose to come to America to try and achieve that 'American Dream'. Our nation's very fabric is tied intrinsically to multiculturalism and immigration, to the point where you could say that our national identity is a multinational identity. You could meet three men with the name John in America who all have totally different racial phenotypes, ethnic backgrounds, and moral and value systems.

As such, total immigration embargo simply won't happen in America, it's anethema to our idea of American society and the American Dream. Instead, I tend to lean more towards the idea of a nationalistic 'Americanization' of immigrants, something that we have the groundwork for in our citizenship tests.

Some church parishioners at my local assembly are Cuban immigrants, recently sworn in as citizens. To become citizens, they were steeped in American history and culture, taught our values and contributions to the arts, sciences, and history, and shown examples of immigrants like themselves who, through hard work and adherence to the rule of law, achieved great things. I feel that this is a solid foundation, but the solution is to sort of 'filter' what exactly we get sent.

Until Islam is radically 'Americanized', it cannot coexist with American values, let alone Western values. Whereas, despite our occasional failures, our legal system, in at least the writing, renders all men and women of every nation, creed, and color as equal in the eyes of the federal government, regardless of any factor save for legal standing and/or criminal record, Islam holds women to be fundamentally and inherently inferior to men in every way. It encourages violence and conquest of those who do not adhere to the 'way', and that a nation MUST be united under God, with God guiding every step of the national process and thought. While Islam is slowly starting to crystallize into a less violent and extremist form, the fact remains that it still has a strong bent towards militant zealotry and bigotry. If we are to hold everyone accountable under the law of the United States, the law of the United States must be superior to all law, including that of 'God'. As a Catholic, that almost sounds sacrilegious, but Christ never advocated slaughtering women for their honor being tainted or stoning a man for what he did in the privacy of his bedroom, so I'm willing to throw this one rock from my glass house.
 
This talk of Islam being a horrific force hasn't paid attention to turkish immigrants in america and canada, turkroaches show Islam can in fact mesh into society, by them pissing away the core tenants of the religion. Beyond that, 2nd generation muslims are a lot more integrated than you'd think, you just need to clamp down on the burka and even hijab to help push those radicals into inceldom.
 
the original application for "rape culture" was (mens) prisons in america where the inmates would routinely rape each other into submission as a show of force, and it's a very real and serious issue.
but it got ruined when retarded feminists started using it to refer to anything and everything, while also re-defining "rape" to the point where basically every man who isn't gay or castrated is a rapist by default, which eventually resulted in shit like pic related:
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so now people associate "rape culture" with pink-haired harpies who screech about random nonsense and incoherent gibberish, so serious discussion about it is almost impossible.

You should have seen how mad feminists got over a counter-campaign with these kinds of posters -
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Again, my intuition strongly disagrees with this. I think it only works in a strongly *culturally* homogenous society, but racial homogeneity isn't actually necessary at all. Racial divisions are a good proxy for cultural divisions in a lot of cases, which is why people tend to entrain on them, but the whole race thing is actually epiphenomenal.

I harp on this because I'm one of those dudes who's convinced that facts actually matter, and that getting this kind of shit wrong will have dire consequences for our great-grandkids.

In my estimation, based on various bits of (I hope) unpolluted research, race actually matters a *little* in very specific circumstances, but culture matters a lot all across the board. And the two together wind up amplifying the racial differences in the places where race does matter, especially where little differences in innate ability lead to massive differences in outcome. (This is the paradox you hear quoted in IDW circles, where making things more equal actually seems to magnify the innate differences between groups.)

Tldr: race can actually be a big deal if you're going for a Nobel prize or an Olympic medal, assuming that all other differences have been smoothed out. But if you'r talking about something as multi-dimensional as "successful integration into a foreign culture", cultural upbringing is gonna be at least a full order of magnitude more significant.

Sikhs have done vastly better integrating and assimilating into British-descended cultures than Muslims have, as evidenced by the massive inbreeding problems within the Pakistani-British community causing high NHS costs, and the rape gangs that have definitely existed for at least 20 years, which conveniently get called "Asian", to mask the religious affiliation of 99% of the rapists.

Blacks in Darkest Africa and blacks in the best parts of the US with the highest quality of life have the exact same IQ range. Transracial adoption studies confirm that even when raised in upper middle class white families with perfect nutrition they are still low IQ. They are just not as smart as everyone else. That's fine, but it means they're not going to integrate with a complex societal structure easily or well.

That's kind of the point of the epigenetic thing they mentioned - selecting a single child, or even a cohort of children adopted out of Africa, and testing that first generation using Western IQ exams, when their gestation was impacted by water quality, food scarcity, and various dietary deficiencies, doesn't prove anything other than "that kid's mom didn't have good nutrition during gestation". If you test the children and grandchildren of that adopted child, you'd probably find different results.

Edit - the intersectionalists are still mad that people refuse to agree with IngSoc on 2+2=5.
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Sikhs have done vastly better integrating and assimilating into British-descended cultures than Muslims have, as evidenced by the massive inbreeding problems within the Pakistani-British community causing high NHS costs, and the rape gangs that have definitely existed for at least 20 years, which conveniently get called "Asian", to mask the religious affiliation of 99% of the rapists.



That's kind of the point of the epigenetic thing they mentioned - selecting a single child, or even a cohort of children adopted out of Africa, and testing that first generation using Western IQ exams, when their gestation was impacted by water quality, food scarcity, and various dietary deficiencies, doesn't prove anything other than "that kid's mom didn't have good nutrition during gestation". If you test the children and grandchildren of that adopted child, you'd probably find different results.

Edit - the intersectionalists are still mad that people refuse to agree with IngSoc on 2+2=5.
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That said, strong differences in MAO enzyme production seems plausible enough to look into further, and provides enough of a benefit in chaotic environments that I could see it plausibly reaching fixation within various inner city populations.
 
That's kind of the point of the epigenetic thing they mentioned - selecting a single child, or even a cohort of children adopted out of Africa, and testing that first generation using Western IQ exams, when their gestation was impacted by water quality, food scarcity, and various dietary deficiencies, doesn't prove anything other than "that kid's mom didn't have good nutrition during gestation". If you test the children and grandchildren of that adopted child, you'd probably find different results.
We're talking about American Blacks, not Africans coming to America. As far as I know, no transracial adoption study was ever done on foreign children. Besides, the studies usually follow White children put up for adoption, who grow up to have an average IQ of 100 just like White children born and raised in their own families. If poverty had that much of an effect on IQ among Americans we would see such a gap with White children too, but we don't.
 
Until Islam is radically 'Americanized', it cannot coexist with American values, let alone Western values. Whereas, despite our occasional failures, our legal system, in at least the writing, renders all men and women of every nation, creed, and color as equal in the eyes of the federal government, regardless of any factor save for legal standing and/or criminal record, Islam holds women to be fundamentally and inherently inferior to men in every way. It encourages violence and conquest of those who do not adhere to the 'way', and that a nation MUST be united under God, with God guiding every step of the national process and thought. While Islam is slowly starting to crystallize into a less violent and extremist form, the fact remains that it still has a strong bent towards militant zealotry and bigotry. If we are to hold everyone accountable under the law of the United States, the law of the United States must be superior to all law, including that of 'God'. As a Catholic, that almost sounds sacrilegious, but Christ never advocated slaughtering women for their honor being tainted or stoning a man for what he did in the privacy of his bedroom, so I'm willing to throw this one rock from my glass house.
That putting of "American law" above the the law of the Church is Americanism and a heresy denounced by by the Church. Further more, the divorcing of church and state is why SJWs have made such great inroads in the state, because it becomes clear that men lack the spiritual courage to endure the SJW verbal beatings and harassment without God. Whereas the SJWs have their anti-church of "oppression" and "privilege", and they will draw upon the success and martyrdom of other members to continue the advancing of their goals. So until America and Western society puts God and His Church first in their societies and lives, SJWs and other such groups will continue to win, because the good guys are united under nothing but some "nice" ideas, and will continue to fold when pressed.
 
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