Manosphere Jordan Peterson - Internet Daddy Simulator, Post-modern Anti-postmodernist, Canadian Psychology Professor, Depressed, Got Hooked on Benzos

[I am the Muffin Maker]

Jordon failed in the raising a sane daughter dept. She fell for and got knocked up by a foreign grim dark “black belt” that tells girls he’s got a demon living in him that Jordon has to employ (along with his daughter).

Basically this, your kid doesn't have to be successful (i.e. a doctor, a lawyer, an engineer) all you have to do is raise your kid so that it can identify a good partner and team up with that person. Outside of bad luck - just about everything will fall into place. They might not be rich, but they won't be poor either. But be dumb, get divorced, "find yourself" and it's a recipe for poverty.

She didn't have to go out and light the world on fire she just had to find someone who could help her raise a kid and stand by her if she needed help. Peterson utterly failed to do this.

 

[doomlad]

Is there any consensus on how fucked he is now? How bad is the brain damage according to rumour?

 

[pull over dat ass too fat]

since this thread has become a bit buried by recent news and new posters seem to still believe that Peterson is some sort of genius who just got manipulated by his crazy daughter out of naivete, I wanna briefly remind people here of the manic pseudoscientific insanity that is his revelation on a theory of life and the universe.

he wrote an entire book with crazy, poorly explained "maps" like the one above.

he also constantly spoke on topics he had no expertise in and larped academic-sounding language to cover up empty platitudes with no support connecting point A to point B, so it shouldn't really come as a surprise that he bought into so much insane pseudoscientific health shit. He was sort of primed for it, if anything.

 

[Phil Ken Sebben]

he also constantly spoke on topics he had no expertise in and larped academic-sounding language to cover up empty platitudes with no support connecting point A to point B, so it shouldn't really come as a surprise that he bought into so much insane pseudoscientific health shit. He was sort of primed for it, if anything.

Regardless of how smart you are, or sound in some cases, if it's outside of your area of expertise then you shouldn't be acting as if what you're saying is true.

Just look at smart guys like Isaac Newton or Nikola Tesla. They came up with some amazing things. But that doesn't mean that everything they believed in was worthy of being taken seriously. I mean Newton believed in alchemy and Tesla was an absolute neurotic with a fear of round things and died a virgin because he was disgusted by touching hair.

Jordan Peterson is no different. He needs to stick to philosophy and leave the real world stuff to people with some knowledge and understanding of it.

 

[pull over dat ass too fat]

Jordan Peterson is no different. He needs to stick to philosophy and leave the real world stuff to people with some knowledge and understanding of it.

My point was actually that his philosophical arguments make unsupported claims touching on areas that he has little to no understanding in. You don't need to be a theologian to incorporate ontological ideas into your writing, but you need to either support whatever claims you make or reference someone else who makes that argument for you.

He's even participated in philosophical debates without having read the material that's being debated lol. e.g. debating a Marxist about Marxism while admitting to have never read the most notable Marxist literature. All he's read is the Communist Manifesto, and I think he claimed before the debate that he had last read it back when he was a teen, so presumably he's been giving lectures for years about Marxism with less literary knowledge than college undergrads. The Communist Manifesto is a literal pamphlet you can read in just a few hours, and isn't sufficient for getting even a surface-level understanding of Marxism.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

Basically this, your kid doesn't have to be successful (i.e. a doctor, a lawyer, an engineer) all you have to do is raise your kid so that it can identify a good partner and team up with that person. Outside of bad luck - just about everything will fall into place. They might not be rich, but they won't be poor either. But be dumb, get divorced, "find yourself" and it's a recipe for poverty.

She didn't have to go out and light the world on fire she just had to find someone who could help her raise a kid and stand by her if she needed help. Peterson utterly failed to do this.

The fact that Demon Igor is dependent upon Jordon to earn money and that Jordan has allowed that shows a truly fucked up dynamic in the family. Mikhala bringing home a sketchy dude and asking daddy to give him a job is fucked up. She either wanted daddy to help her lock him down or wanted power over him or both.

Russian dude still outsmarted her because even when they broke up Daddy still paid him. Having Igor on the payroll to be Mikahla’s husband is pathetic. If your daughter brings home some sketchy dude and he wants you to give him a job so he can “support your daughter” you tell him to gtfo. (It’s not like Igor was some MBA from Harvard or had any past success that made giving him a job anything but charity and subsiding Mikhala’s love life.)

Russian dude obviously has issues with proving he’s very macho. He probably deeply resented being under the thumb of daddy Jordan and wifey for his spending money. I think the trip to Russia was his attempt at a role reversal and getting Jordan and Mikhala (and the money). He’s probably been trying to create an “opportunity” like what is currently happening for the past two years.

Mikhala is obviously too stupid to see what’s happening and is desperate to have a man take care of things. Jordan might have finally cottoned on to this grifter and maybe that’s why he needed to be put in a coma and get some brain damage ASAP

 

[Phil Ken Sebben]

My point was actually that his philosophical arguments make unsupported claims touching on areas that he has little to no understanding in. You don't need to be a theologian to incorporate ontological ideas into your writing, but you need to either support whatever claims you make or reference someone else who makes that argument for you.

He's even participated in philosophical debates without having read the material that's being debated lol. e.g. debating a Marxist about Marxism while admitting to have never read the most notable Marxist literature. All he's read is the Communist Manifesto, and I think he claimed before the debate that he had last read it back when he was a teen, so presumably he's been giving lectures for years about Marxism with less literary knowledge than college undergrads. The Communist Manifesto is a literal pamphlet you can read in just a few hours, and isn't sufficient for getting even a surface-level understanding of Marxism.

Unsupported claims or not it's still his area of expertise. I make no claims that he's right when he engages in philosophy mainly because I've never heard him speak on it. But in that he at least has a grounding in it.

 

[Justtocheck]

Hey, just wanted to chip in here since i saw Peterson's getting treatment in Serbia. He's completely fucked. There's three ways this can go : 1. He gets milked dry by the Serbian doctors with them offering him private healthcare (aka I'll actually do work if you pay me), 2. He dies in the public hospitals, where the chances of him surviving are one in a million (Serbian healthcare is nowhere near quality enough to support their own people let alone Lobsterman who, as far as i know, doesn't speak a lick of Serbian) or 3. He somehow miraculously survives and fully recovers both with his wallet and health in tact. The last one is a complete fantasy though, its a toss up between the first two and I'm willing to put top dollar on it. That's about it, if anybody gets their hands on the report from the hospital and needs translating just tag me and I'll come around.

There are some questions that'd be nice to ask know, if you don't mind of course.

1) Do you have gusses to which Belgrade clinic Peterson is? Is the hospital you may have in mind, or a specific doctor known for a special treatment? I think this is important because if you ask around, sometimes there'll be one or two doctors known in a hospital for doing XYZ. And that attracts attention. Usually an old doctor with a reputation.

2) Is Serbia known for quality neurological treatment? There are countries known for stuff specifically. Cuba is known for quality physical rehab for example.

3) How Covid proof is Serbia right now? Do people wear masks, keep distance and wash their hands with alcohol, or is it like it wasn't even there?

And about the report. I highly doubt anything will be made public. Mikhaila is controling the flow of info. About the money, Peterson has at least 100 million in his bank account. I'm pretty sure he'll pay. The thing I wonder is why Serbia.

 

[CrippleFucker69]

There are some questions that'd be nice to ask know, if you don't mind of course.

1) Do you have gusses to which Belgrade clinic Peterson is? Is the hospital you may have in mind, or a specific doctor known for a special treatment? I think this is important because if you ask around, sometimes there'll be one or two doctors known in a hospital for doing XYZ. And that attracts attention. Usually an old doctor with a reputation.

2) Is Serbia known for quality neurological treatment? There are countries known for stuff specifically. Cuba is known for quality physical rehab for example.

3) How Covid proof is Serbia right now? Do people wear masks, keep distance and wash their hands with alcohol, or is it like it wasn't even there?

And about the report. I highly doubt anything will be made public. Mikhaila is controling the flow of info. About the money, Peterson has at least 100 million in his bank account. I'm pretty sure he'll pay. The thing I wonder is why Serbia.

Of course, keep in mind I'm not from Serbia originally, i just visit my extended family there from time to time so this information comes from them.
1. Serbia is pretty centralized, if i had to take a guess, I'd wager somewhere near the definitive center of the city. But it's a pretty big city, so your guess is as good as mine. IF he is actually in a private clinic though, he shouldn't be that hard to find.
2. Not that I'm aware of, however still continuing with that theory that he's in a private clinic he's most likely getting preferential treatment + doctors on watch. Which is, of course, going to drain his bank account since those private clinics charge in euro, not serbian dinar.
3. Well, to put it simply the people are taking measures, but they're pretty stupid about said measures. So much so in fact, that at one point the entire country had an all day curfew. The government is trying it's best to contain it, but the people are pretty dumb and not following social distancing or any other measures. In fact, those riots were, in part, due to those restrictions. Mainly due to the ongoing civil conflict in Montenegro, but theres also a part of the covid restrictions in there too.

As for why Serbia, frankly i have no fucking clue. If it was me, I'd be seeking treatment in Germany. A part to me thinks he wanted to go to Russia, but since the country was on full lockdown with restrictions he had to go to the 2nd best eastern country and big diplomatic ally of Russia, Serbia.

 

[pull over dat ass too fat]

Unsupported claims or not it's still his area of expertise. I make no claims that he's right when he engages in philosophy mainly because I've never heard him speak on it. But in that he at least has a grounding in it.

For one, his real "area of expertise" is psychology, but regardless, that's such a broad designation that it's useless. Do you know how many topics he incorporated into his "philosophical" writing and lectures? He's constantly said weird shit about mythology, religion and culture that isn't supported by academics in those fields. I've even heard Jungians claim that he bastardizes their ideology, and that's the most pseudoscientific shit there is lmao. Not to say you can't swim against the current, but if your claims aren't common knowledge, you have to actually support them with evidence and some sort of coherent argument.

You can like him as a person or whatever, but he's just a self-help guru at best. His actual academic career has been an embarrassment.

 

[Phil Ken Sebben]

For one, his real "area of expertise" is psychology, but regardless, that's such a broad designation that it's useless. Do you know how many topics he incorporated into his "philosophical" writing and lectures? He's constantly said weird shit about mythology, religion and culture that isn't supported by academics in those fields. I've even heard Jungians claim that he bastardizes their ideology, and that's the most pseudoscientific shit there is lmao. Not to say you can't swim against the current, but if your claims aren't common knowledge, you have to actually support them with evidence and some sort of coherent argument.

Funny but I thought he was a philosopher for some reason. Just goes to show how much attention I actually pay the guy.

You can like him as a person or whatever, but he's just a self-help guru at best. His actual academic career has been an embarrassment.

He's not even a self-help guru even if people have turned him into one. It's like how Deepak Chopra is this huge self-help guru who might have had some good ideas at the start but now he's a raving loon because people keep propping him up and buying whatever he sells. Jordon Peterson said a couple good things and that's it. He doesn't deserve the title of self-help guru because he's not one. Especially considering he's currently detoxing off of drugs.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

For one, his real "area of expertise" is psychology, but regardless, that's such a broad designation that it's useless. Do you know how many topics he incorporated into his "philosophical" writing and lectures? He's constantly said weird shit about mythology, religion and culture that isn't supported by academics in those fields. I've even heard Jungians claim that he bastardizes their ideology, and that's the most pseudoscientific shit there is lmao. Not to say you can't swim against the current, but if your claims aren't common knowledge, you have to actually support them with evidence and some sort of coherent argument.

You can like him as a person or whatever, but he's just a self-help guru at best. His actual academic career has been an embarrassment.

Did he ever explain why it was perfectly natural for a witch to live in a swamp?

 

[Gorilla Tessellator]

Unsupported claims or not it's still his area of expertise. I make no claims that he's right when he engages in philosophy mainly because I've never heard him speak on it. But in that he at least has a grounding in it.

I don't think he has much grounding in philosophy. Unless by grounding in philosophy you mean he read Nietzsche once.

Did he ever explain why it was perfectly natural for a witch to live in a swamp?

I can explain: A witch is a demonized version of femininity, and as such it goes without saying she has to live in fetid, dump area that symbolizes putrid old vagina. Also swamps are scary.

 

[Justtocheck]

Mikhaila is not even that uncute. If she were a little more reserved and sane, had a bit of a personality, had a nice smile and spoke like a human being and didn't have that dead tone of voice and eyes, and didn't take pictures of herself in underwear with her daughter and dad and didn't show cleavage or had a crazy boobjob, and wasn't as bipolar, and didn't have an instagram I'm sure she'd make a good wifey and Jordan Peterson fans would be thirsting after her.

 

[Spatula]

3) How Covid proof is Serbia right now? Do people wear masks, keep distance and wash their hands with alcohol, or is it like it wasn't even there?

No.
Serbia is beyond containing the Covid.
During their elections they stopped all precautions and restrictions, had all businesses like nightclubs amd bars working, stopped testing as well. For the purpose of looking like they got rid of covid.
After the elections when Vucic won, he put a stop to the illusion that covid is under control and issued bans again.
Currently most european countries have blacklisted serbia for travel because of covid.

 

[BLASTERRIFLE]

Despite what he might say, I hope the best for him. I think he’s helped a lot of lost people or at least shown they should be critical of the things they say themselves.

Doesn’t sound like things are going very good.

 

[Commander X]

 

[Disco Inferno]

As for why Serbia, frankly i have no fucking clue. If it was me, I'd be seeking treatment in Germany. A part to me thinks he wanted to go to Russia, but since the country was on full lockdown with restrictions he had to go to the 2nd best eastern country and big diplomatic ally of Russia, Serbia.

I think his daughter is personally avoiding western medicine. She made it clear that she disaproved of how Canadian doctors were handling his situation. That's what caused them to go to Russia in the first place.
off topic, but how likely is an armed skirmish between montengro and srbija?

 

[CrippleFucker69]

I think his daughter is personally avoiding western medicine. She made it clear that she disaproved of how Canadian doctors were handling his situation. That's what caused them to go to Russia in the first place.
off topic, but how likely is an armed skirmish between montengro and srbija?

Edit : Forgot to write about Peterson's daughter lol. Sounds likely, although i really don't know why they would go anywhere near Serbia. At least Russia has a track record of somewhat successful alternative medicine. Could be just her going to a place where its easier to score drugs though.
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Serbian political parties have said they're trying not to intervene directly unless Montenegro starts fully killing protesters from what i understand. There was also protesting over this in Belgrade but it was over in a week. As for Montenegro, both Serbs and Montenegrins are protesting the corrupt government. If there's a civil war brewing there idk, but it seems likely if the president doesn't step down, he's quite the international criminal. Apparently he made his fortune off of trafficking Albanian made cigarettes through Montenegro.

 

[Disco Inferno]

Edit : Forgot to write about Peterson's daughter lol. Sounds likely, although i really don't know why they would go anywhere near Serbia. At least Russia has a track record of somewhat successful alternative medicine. Could be just her going to a place where its easier to score drugs though.
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Serbian political parties have said they're trying not to intervene directly unless Montenegro starts fully killing protesters from what i understand. There was also protesting over this in Belgrade but it was over in a week. As for Montenegro, both Serbs and Montenegrins are protesting the corrupt government. If there's a civil war brewing there idk, but it seems likely if the president doesn't step down, he's quite the international criminal. Apparently he made his fortune off of trafficking Albanian made cigarettes through Montenegro.

If that's the case, I hope their dealer is albanian. They always provide the good shit.
I'd wager that Srbija would just fund proxies militias rather than get directly involved. Another full blown conflict between ex-yu states would be catastrophic.