🐱 Europeans Say COVID-19 Revealed America as 'Fragile,' Inconsiderate

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Many Europeans are asking if Americans even care about their people's own health, as they have watched in astonishment at the world's most powerful country faltering in its response to the coronavirus pandemic.


Italians, Germans and residents of other European nations who were hit the hardest by the coronavirus outbreak in February said they are disappointed, saddened and even frightened by the United States' COVID-19 response. Public health experts and everyday residents said they "always saw America as a model" for the world, but the pandemic has exposed a country with horrendous infrastructure and no coherent public health system.

Several European doctors agreed with their U.S. counterparts in saying Americans' individualist spirit has backfired and led the country to the top of both infection and death toll lists.


Americans are now at the top of the list of "at risk" travelers to Europe after countries like Italy — which placed themselves in a strict 10-week lockdown — have emerged from the pandemic while Americans continue infighting and rising above 160,000 dead from COVID-19.

"Don't they care about their health?" a mask-clad Patrizia Antonini asked the Associated Press about Americans as she walked with friends along Lake Bracciano, north of Rome. "They need to take our precautions ... They need a real lockdown."

"We Italians always saw America as a model," said Massimo Franco, columnist with daily Corriere della Sera newspaper. "But with this virus we've discovered a country that is very fragile, with bad infrastructure and a public health system that is nonexistent."



Italian Health Minister Roberto Speranza, one of the country's top public health officials, outright condemned President Donald Trump and Washington lawmakers' response to the virus as "wrong." Italy now sees about 150 to 300 new cases nationwide each day, down from the 6,500 daily the country recorded on March 21. In the U.S., there are about 54,000 new cases a day — which is a higher number proportionally when its larger population is factored into consideration.


As of Sunday, the U.S. now has a world-record 5 million confirmed coronavirus infections amid a politicized debate over face masks and health precautions, which has incredulous Europeans questioning the country's leadership on the international stage.

"Had the medical professionals been allowed to operate in the States, you would have belatedly gotten to a point of getting to grips with this back in March," said Scott Lucas, professor at the University of Birmingham in England. "But of course, the medical and public health professionals were not allowed to proceed unchecked," referencing Trump's undercutting of his administration's own public health experts.


Doctors throughout Italy, where the virus killed more than 35,000 people and ravaged towns between late February and April, say the country's strict nationwide lockdown was a major factor in beating back its spread. Additionally, Italian government officials on both the national and local levels worked primarily in lockstep as they conducted widespread testing, robust contact tracing and a slow process of reopening.


"If you are in Florida and you hear your governor saying something, and then the governor in New York is saying the opposite, it's really difficult. In Italy, it was just one voice," said Dr. Roberto Cosentini, head of an emergency medicine unit at the Papa Giovanni XXIII Hospital in Bergamo, Italy, as reported by NBC News.

Newsweek reached out to the Italian and German embassies in Washington for any additional remarks as well as the White House Sunday morning.
 
Then why does Trump hold rallies where masks are banned? Why does he still tell people to not wear them? He should be encouraging people to wear masks, not saying they don't work and holding rallies where they aren't allowed. Also, Trump has said the CDC was corrupt and evil because they went against him on wearing masks and covid, and now you are saying they're on the same side? Which is it?
As I said, it's pretty clear at this point to most people the whole mask issue, and the COVID response at a whole, is now politically charged, not medically. When you have the media making excuses left and right for protesters to break all the guidelines then turn around and harass people who want to enjoy a nice day out, it's pretty clear where the wind is blowing. Recently Trump even made a joke out of it, stating that his reasoning why he doesn't care is that his meet-ups are "peaceful protests" which is dubious but when a double-standard exists, abuse it. If the media and protest enablers don't want to enforce the guidelines on protesters, why should he on people coming to watch him speak?

As for the CDC, I really don't care. I'm not some blind ass neo-nazi whole eats out Trump's ass every day but get real, an aspect of our government being corrupt is not some crazy conspiracy. They're a federal agency under the Department of Health and Human Services, if there weren't some busybodies actively skewing things so they get more funding it would be a shock. Even better is that according to this, CDC employees have participated in sabotage and skewed numbers, it's clear he's not unfounded in saying such a thing.
That being said, it doesn't mean they can't also give out guidelines for the states and the people to follow. Again, the point is that this is about as much the feds can do aside from coordinating data and logistics.
 
They also don't have to be corrupt to just be wrong, or plain ol ' ineffectual.... this is why I've long said expanding bureaucracies are bad.

Not because they're corrupt and bulldoze your rights (though they can be and do) but because they don't work.

The CDC was always justified that if the unthinkable happened, a zombie plague or some shit, we'd have an agency to deal with it. And we all assumed it'd be some kind of movie-level response where as soon as the disaster hit, we'd see their vans and tents and branding everywhere and they'd get it under control.

Except when it actually happened, when the alarm bells went off at CDC HQ and the workers were told "This is not a drill" the response was just as shoddy, slow, mixed in message and beset by Z-grade pencil pushers trying to be the hero at last as it is from every other Federal agency....

This is why you ultimately should want small government, big government just wastes money, even when it's trying to help. Even when it wants to save you, it can't help but fall in the lake with you and you drown together anyway. Assuming it even wants to go down to the lake and try... it's just easier to put up a sign that says "No falling in the lake" and consider your job done. Someone fell in the lake? Not my problem, but if they get out alive, prosecute them for violating the "no falling in the lake" law.

Since the 60's, we've been told bigger, richer, stronger Federal Agencies will solve all our problems from poverty to pandemics... and 2020 is revealing, in cascading fashion, that they don't work no matter how much power and money you give them.

And when called on it, they only can point fingers and try to defund each other...
 
That's quite a paradox, I wonder how many conservative brains that would explode if tired here? Free Machineguns for everyone, courtesy of the Personal Enablement of Wielding Provided Entirely Withgibs (PEWPEW) Act?
In Switzerland like in other European countries you can get hunting rifles but they're regulated.

The famous Swiss militia weapons are also very highly regulated. You get a gun and ammo, but you can't open the ammo box unless Switzerland is at war.
 
In Switzerland like in other European countries you can get hunting rifles but they're regulated.
you can get 99% of weapons you can get in the US. the only hard ban is on automatic weapons, but the US has those 2.
Those AR-15 clones the americans like so much are no problem.
Getting a permit is also not that hard, much easyer than in alot of US states-
 
You gotta be really stupid to think we handled this pandemic as well as other countries. The US accounts for 5% of the world's population and over 20% of the covid deaths. Your president really, really fucked up by calling it a hoax and denying its seriousness.

I still have no idea how Trumpers can say this pandemic was handled well. 162k+ deaths and counting
I like how everyone who says he's handling it poorly and its all his fault when he originally wanted to stop all traffic from China, coming in.

He was called a racist bigot every step of the way.
Then it got here, all hell broke loose and all of the sudden he needed to do something. No, its now a state issue cause if he did something he would be doing the wrong thing, always.

I dont care much for trump but what little he did try to do, was met with his normal objectors. Were all paying the price in the usa, because everyone wanted to tell trump how wrong he was and how moral they were.

Now its a game of cover up from these same people while they try to fudge the numbers after dropping the ball in their own states.

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I like how everyone who says he's handling it poorly and its all his fault when he originally wanted to stop all traffic from China, coming in.

I was called a racist bigot every step of the way.
Then it got here, all hell broke loose and all of the sudden he needed to do something. No, its now a state issue cause if he did something he would be doing the wrong thing, always.

I dont care much for trump but what little he did try to do, was met with his normal objectors. Were all paying the price in the usa, because everyone wanted to tell trump how wrong he was and how moral they were.

Now its a game of cover up from these same people while they try to fudge the numbers after dropping the ball in their own states.

The problem is he didn't do anything other than want to stop people from coming from China (After the virus was already here). He's literally told his followers to not wear masks (against CDC recommendations) and has downplayed the virus as much as possible, including telling schools to have in-person lessons with children. He couldn't have fucked up it more if he tried.
 
I like how everyone who says he's handling it poorly and its all his fault when he originally wanted to stop all traffic from China, coming in.

I was called a racist bigot every step of the way.
Then it got here, all hell broke loose and all of the sudden he needed to do something. No, its now a state issue cause if he did something he would be doing the wrong thing, always.

I dont care much for trump but what little he did try to do, was met with his normal objectors. Were all paying the price in the usa, because everyone wanted to tell trump how wrong he was and how moral they were.

Now its a game of cover up from these same people while they try to fudge the numbers after dropping the ball in their own states.
I doubt a travel ban would have stopped this.
Its a fucking highly contagious virus that spreads like wildfire, even with a full ban on Chinese & European travelers all it takes is one American in an airport passing by someone that was infected and boom, Coof is here purging the fatties & boomers anways.

"Nature finds a way"
 
They are opening schools because Trump is making them. Masks work.

Although since you're an anti-masker, your username fits pretty well

I never stated I was an anti maker. Lol calm down.

Its imo not effective when. You have 30+ kids in a classroom.
I'm sorry
They need to cut them in half plus mask
 
So why hasn't your Dear Leader drained the swamp in the CDC yet then?

ALso lol at using swprs. Europe's answer to Alex Jones. You might as well be posting that water is turning frogs gay. You should go back to trolling in community watch
Probably because he can't actually unilaterally do stuff like that. There'll be too much of a shitstorm.
 
Well I'd like this pandemic to be over and if you're too selfish to wear a mask, it makes you a piece of shit. Now I answered your question, answer mine, pussy

I live someplace where I don't have to, so I don't. Most stores in my area don't enforce it really, depends on who's working. Haven't gotten sick, and aside from my grandma, I don't know anyone who's gotten it. She's 100 years old and still alive btw, it was like a cold.
 
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I live someplace where I don't have to, so I don't. Most stores in my area don't enforce it really, depends on who's working. Haven't gotten sick, and aside from my grandma, I don't know anyone who's gotten it. She's 100 years old and still alive btw, it was like a cold.

I highly doubt she had it then if it was "just a cold bro". There's other respiratory things that aren't covid going around, too
 
Tested positive for it, so it counts. Unless, of course, you want to argue that those tests have a high false-positive rate.

They do have a high false positive rate (and that is assuming you're even telling the truth).

You are the only one here that can't seem to stop talking about him lmfao

Like it or not, he dropped the ball on the covid response and it's relevant to this topic. There's a reason that the US's numbers are way higher than anyone else's. Sorry but your cult leader failed.
 
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