Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

I agree. That is what I call parading a potato around. It's playing dress up and forcing the child to LARP as normal to compensate for the inconvenience of being cared for. Denial, attention seeking. No acknowledgement of her child's actual abilities and forcing other people to participate in entertaining the parent with no value for the child.
Yeah, you might as well give a dog art lessons. Even if she weren't a potato, kid is in a wheelchair. Signing up an immobile kid for ballet is almost kind of hilarious when you think about it. Your kid is severely disabled but you still want them to leave the house and do things? Cool. But the least you could do would be signing them up for something they are actually able to enjoy or even participate in. The only thing that mamabear accomplished was taking away a teacher from all the other children that are capable of learning. She definitely didn't do her daughter any favors because she is unable to grasp what ballet is, much less enjoy it. Call me a Karen but if I paid full price for ballet lessons and my kid didn't get to learn anything because the teacher was too busy twirling around a barely sentient meat sack, I would not be happy.
 
I hope this means Robyn is getting ultrasounds this pregnancy. Luna's head is really yellow in this photo :-/ FFF1510D-86C2-4CE2-8519-C349CA4D5EAA.png
 
I hope this means Robyn is getting ultrasounds this pregnancy. Luna's head is really yellow in this photo :-/

I think, but can’t tell for sure, that the yellow skin is bad cradle cap. Sometimes it can spread from the scalp to the eyebrows. I’m surprised Mom hasn’t been treating it with woo woo organic oils, but something tells me that touching Luna’s head causes her pain so she can’t.
 
I think, but can’t tell for sure, that the yellow skin is bad cradle cap. Sometimes it can spread from the scalp to the eyebrows. I’m surprised Mom hasn’t been treating it with woo woo organic oils, but something tells me that touching Luna’s head causes her pain so she can’t.

I think it's from her skin stretching so much.
Or could it be mild bruising from her helmet?

Ultrasounds this round kind of confirm that mom was at least informed her decisions to refuse prenatal care for Luna was at least contributing factor to her condition.
I expect instead of a home-birth, she'll be filling a hospital birthing room with rocks and essential oils.
 
I hope this means Robyn is getting ultrasounds this pregnancy. Luna's head is really yellow in this photo :-/View attachment 1514333

K this one might be catching up with Eva as the case that upsets me the most in this thread. At least Eva had 7 years of being normal (though still stuck in a wacko family), all this baby has known is pain and her mother exploiting her pain. Fucking grim.
 
Replacement ordered!
The order is finally being processed, pretty sure they started trying to place an order for a non-defective model in the fall.

But the new order won’t matter if they have the same delivery guy who fucks up all the packages.


I think it's from her skin stretching so much.
Or could it be mild bruising from her helmet?

Ultrasounds this round kind of confirm that mom was at least informed her decisions to refuse prenatal care for Luna was at least contributing factor to her condition.
I expect instead of a home-birth, she'll be filling a hospital birthing room with rocks and essential oils.
She’s trying to spin it as a gender ultrasound but it’s either a 12 week or the big anatomy scan at 18 weeks. If she’s 18 weeks this is really all about checking the health and viability - gender is an afterthought and could have easily been determined before this. (With the blood dna tests they can tell you gender at like 8 weeks now)

If she has any sense at all it would be nerve wracking as fuck. I never had a potato baby but ultrasounds are very necessary and very stressful. Watching the reactions of the tech and holding your breath they don’t politely leave the room and ten minutes later the doctor come in for “a closer look” or to discuss something.

Of course I guess this depends if you are a prepare for the worst, hope for the best type person or one who is totally oblivious. Given Luna’s condition I don’t think it’s possible for Mrs Empath to be oblivious.
 
I have no idea if I want kids but. It always gets me down that if you're pregnant and do all the recommended stuff: eat super healthy, take all your vitamins, get regular checkups and ultrasounds, etc. and have a normal looking baby, it could still have issues that weren't present during gestation. Or even if you did have a normal baby, a few years down the line they could just start going backwards. I know it's rare. Very rare. But it still tugs at the back of my mind when I consider "do I want a kid one day?"

It doesn't help that I have a minor genetic dysplasia type disorder. Doesn't affect intellect but can affect appearance. The problem is it's an umbrella of over 100 subtypes of varying severity. I got a fairly minor form at least. So I might try to see if a geneticist could help me out. I don't want my potential kid to go through low self esteem and incredibly expensive treatment like I did imo.
 
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The order is finally being processed, pretty sure they started trying to place an order for a non-defective model in the fall.

But the new order won’t matter if they have the same delivery guy who fucks up all the packages.



She’s trying to spin it as a gender ultrasound but it’s either a 12 week or the big anatomy scan at 18 weeks. If she’s 18 weeks this is really all about checking the health and viability - gender is an afterthought and could have easily been determined before this. (With the blood dna tests they can tell you gender at like 8 weeks now)

If she has any sense at all it would be nerve wracking as fuck. I never had a potato baby but ultrasounds are very necessary and very stressful. Watching the reactions of the tech and holding your breath they don’t politely leave the room and ten minutes later the doctor come in for “a closer look” or to discuss something.

Of course I guess this depends if you are a prepare for the worst, hope for the best type person or one who is totally oblivious. Given Luna’s condition I don’t think it’s possible for Mrs Empath to be oblivious.
Anatomy scans, pfft,
There are much more important things like getting the right diaper bag.
This is from Mrs Empath's stories.
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and this short clip that will haunt your dreams.

Forgot to add this insightful post where Mrs Empath is angry because they were failed by medical professionals, even though she herself failed to seek adequate OB care throughout her entire pregnancy and childbirth, resulting in Luna's condition in the first place. Oblivious is this bitch's middle name.
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I agree. That is what I call parading a potato around. It's playing dress up and forcing the child to LARP as normal to compensate for the inconvenience of being cared for. Denial, attention seeking. No acknowledgement of her child's actual abilities and forcing other people to participate in entertaining the parent with no value for the child.
I had a friend who had a special needs classmate in high school. I don't know what her condition was but she was in a wheelchair, she was crippled, drooled everywhere and was mentally handicapped, she could barely talk but I think she could understand some things. My friend, her classmates and the teachers were all very good with her and they would take turns in helping her do stuff (I think they had a special needs teaching assistant maybe once a week). They all knew this girl's limits.

The problem was her mother. She was absolutely convinced that her daughter was special and she insisted her daughter had to take part in "normal" classes instead of special ones. The daughter couldn't keep up, she had to have notes taken for her, she would even take the same tests as her classmates, she took the same final exam to get a high school diploma but she obviously failed it. She stayed behind one further year and then her mother enrolled her* in a university for a journalism degree because it was apparently "her daughter's dream".

This mother is an absolute idiot and a selfish cunt. Not only are you putting your child in a situation where she can't grow in any significant way, you're just pushing her to be absolutely shit. At the same time, you're wasting the entire school's resources, time and effort while also putting other abled children in a difficult position. The kids didn't complain much but they would have to spend days with the disabled girl, risking jeopardizing their own education. It's completely fucked up and unfair to all involved in the situation and these people shouldn't be allowed to force people to participate in their delusions.

*ETA: I'm a sped as much as this girl apparently, forgot words and realised just now, apologies
 
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Yeah, you might as well give a dog art lessons. Even if she weren't a potato, kid is in a wheelchair. Signing up an immobile kid for ballet is almost kind of hilarious when you think about it. Your kid is severely disabled but you still want them to leave the house and do things? Cool. But the least you could do would be signing them up for something they are actually able to enjoy or even participate in. The only thing that mamabear accomplished was taking away a teacher from all the other children that are capable of learning. She definitely didn't do her daughter any favors because she is unable to grasp what ballet is, much less enjoy it. Call me a Karen but if I paid full price for ballet lessons and my kid didn't get to learn anything because the teacher was too busy twirling around a barely sentient meat sack, I would not be happy.

It's a total waste of time. Does this kid also attend mainstream school? I never understood the point of parking a potato in the classroom. They can't learn anything. This child can't dance and she doesn't even know what's going on.
 
It's a total waste of time. Does this kid also attend mainstream school? I never understood the point of parking a potato in the classroom. They can't learn anything. This child can't dance and she doesn't even know what's going on.
While there is a measured benefit for including learning-disabled students in the general population, I can't possibly see what kind of benefit including profoundly disabled students is supposed to bring. It monopolizes educator time and forces the other students to act as unwitting caretakers and education assistants. These showboating parents take advantage of inclusion policies designed for mild and moderately disabled but otherwise normal children and apply them to their potato children who are halted forever at a toddler or infant level of cognition.
 
Was reading this in A&N but seems like it belongs here too

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...irth-mother-refused-10-000-abortion-dies.html

A young girl who made headlines when her surrogate mother refused $10,000 from her biological family to have an abortion has died aged eight.

Seraphina Nayleigh Harrell died on July 15 at Boston Children's Hospital from complications related to an infection and needed surgery. She and her family who had adopted her had celebrated her eight birthday just two weeks earlier on June 25.

'Still can't believe I have to talk about my baby in the past tense,' wrote Rene Harrell, the Seraphina's adoptive mother, on Facebook.

'Still trying to figure out how daily life is supposed to work without her in it.'

Thomas Harrell, her adoptive father, said: 'For the eight years she lived, she had a full life.'

'She had a lot of joy in her life and gave a lot of other people joy in ways that sometimes weren't expected.'

In 2011, a couple, whose identity has not been revealed, hired Crystal Kelley, then 29, to be a surrogate after they had trouble conceiving children.

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A playground meeting in Vernon, Connecticut, saw Kelley agree to carry their fourth child for next nine months.

Doctor's thawed out two frozen embryos left over from the couple's past in-vitro fertilization procedures and put them in Kelley's uterus in October 8, 2011.

But in 2012 when Kelley underwent a routine ultrasound when she was five months pregnant, it showed that Seraphina suffered from a cleft lip and palate, a cyst in her brain and severe heart defects.

Serpahina had holoprosencephaly, a birth defect where the brain does not fully divide into separate hemispheres.

She also had heteotaxy, which meant several of her internal organs were in the wrong place. She had at least two spleens.

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Previous ultrasound technicians had noted that Seraphina's stomach or spleen were hard to see.

A panicked phone call from the the couple then sparked a landmark abortion case that captivated America.

Holoprosencephaly and Heteotaxy
Holoprosencephaly (HPE) is a somewhat common birth defect that happens when the brain does not completely divide into the two lobes of the cerebral hemisphere.
As a result, there is a single-lobed brain structure that is coupled with skull and facial defects.
‘[HPE]often can also affect facial features, including closely spaced eyes, small head size, and sometimes clefts of the lip and roof of the mouth, as well as other birth defects.’
In most instances, the malformation is so severe that babies die before birth.
‘In less severe cases, babies are born with normal or near-normal brain development and facial deformities that may affect the eyes, nose and upper lip.’
‘This birth defect occurs soon after conception. It has a prevelance of 1 in 250 during early embryo development, and 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 20,000 at term.’
The best way to diagnose HPE Is with a CT or MRI brain scan. Molecular testing for a number of HPE genes. Treatment for children is individualized.
Heterotaxy occurs when a person’s internal organs are not arranged correctly in the chest or abdomen.
Subsequently, the most common complications affect the lungs, heart, liver, spleen and intestines.
‘Specific symptoms include not getting enough oxygen throughout the body, breathing difficulties, increased risk for infection, and problems digesting food.’
It may be caused by genetic changes, exposure to toxins when a woman in pregnant or the condition can happen sporadically.
Heterotaxy is estimated to affect one in 10,000 people across the globe, but scientists believe the condition is under diagnosed.
Diagnosis’ are typically done with images taken during a CT scan or an MRI. Other tests, including blood tests, can check the organs’ function levels. Treatment depends on the specific organs affected.
Sources: National Center for Advancing Translational Sciences and National Human Genome Research Institute



'She kept saying, 'There's something wrong with the baby. There's something wrong with the baby. What are we going to do?'' Kelley told CNN in March 2013. 'She was frantic. She was panicking.'

Doctors explained that little Seraphina would likely survive the pregnancy, but would only have a 25 percent chance at a 'normal life' and would need to undergo several heart surgeries. The biological couple wanted Kelley to terminate the pregnancy.

But Kelley disagreed and wanted to keep the child alive. Kelley did not want to raise a child, but was morally and religiously against abortions.

A letter written by Kelley's midwife and a genetic counselor read: 'Given the ultrasound findings, (the parents) feel that the interventions required to manage (the baby's medical problems) are overwhelming for an infant, and that it is a more humane option to consider pregnancy termination.

'Ms. Kelley feels that all efforts should be made to 'give the baby a chance' and seems adamantly opposed to termination.'

The couple's first three children were all born prematurely, with two of them spending months in the hospital.

The two sides were caught in a standoff that ended with Kelley moving states after the couple offered to pay her $10,000 to have an abortion.

Both sides lawyered up and argued over what was the best course of action for Seraphina.

Eventually the couple changed their minds about the abortion and instead wanted to exercise their legal right to take custody of the child - but would enter her into Connecticut's foster care system immediately afterwards.

But Kelley moved to Michigan, where state laws allowed her to be the legal parent and not the couple who hired her.

'Once I realized that I was going to be the only person really fighting for her, that Mama bear instinct kicked in, and there was no way I was giving up without a fight,' said Kelley at the time.

On June 25, Seraphina was born at full-term at 6lbs and 9 ozs.

Kelley gave Serpahina up for adoption and she was taken in by the Harrell family in Massachusetts.

The impasse between the couple and Kelley helped surrogacy agencies change the protocols they follow when making such arrangements.

'People heard about this case, and they got scared about skipping steps. That's good for the industry,' attorney Melissa Brisman told CNN this week.

Now, couples and surrogates take much more precautions and make sure they're on the same page about important issues.



A memorial service for Seraphina was held on Sunday afternoon in Andover, Massachusetts, at a field adjacent to Chapel at West Parish.

Rene asked that guests to wear face masks in honor of the young girl.

'COVID-19 has interrupted a lot over the past few months, and it wouldn't be very honoring of Seraphina's memory to put people at risk of contracting it,' wrote Rene on Facebook.

'Because the Commonwealth considers this a large 'unenclosed outdoor area' with enough space to practice social distancing, there are no regulations limiting attendance or requiring mask usage, but we are requesting that everyone planning to come wear a mask and will provide them for anyone who doesn't have one.'

In Massachusetts, there are more than 120,000 confirmed cases and nearly 9,000 deaths.

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Seraphina will be remembered for living a full and joyous life in spite of her medical conditions.

'What I heard over and over from so many of her doctors was they could never imagine that someone with Seraphina's level of need could do as well as she did or be as joyful as she was,' Rene told CNN.

Rene added that the life Seraphina led in Massachusetts, surrounded by friends and loved ones, proved she was worth saving.

'What drove the conflict when Crystal was pregnant with her, was whether or not she'd have a meaningful life,' said Rene.

'And I think without hesitation, the answer to that question is yes, she did. Seraphina had a very, very meaningful and happy life.'

Seraphina could only speak a few words, but learned American Sign Language to communicate. She also could not walk, but was constantly moving around in her wheelchair.

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Seraphina grew up in a loving Massachusetts home with seven other siblings, some of which also had medical issues and disabilities


'She could get herself around in a power wheelchair like nobody's business,' said Rene.

Seraphina's favorite words, according to Rene, was 'I love you.'

'She'd sign it and always add a little kissing sound. She was so loving. If you looked sad, she would comfort you,' said Rene.

'If you got even the slightest little poke, she would sign 'sorry' and then kiss your boo-boo.

'When her baby cousin cried, she would sign 'Baby, cry, Mama, milk.'

During Halloween 2018, Seraphina's seven older siblings masqueraded as the seven dwarves and gave her a special name: Bossy Dwarf.

'She had the most confident, self-assured personality, and she told everyone what to do,' said Rene.

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For Halloween 2018, the Harrell children dressed up as the seven dwarves and called Seraphina (far left) Bossy Dwarf
Serpahina shared a remarkable bond with her siblings and enjoyed doing different activities with each.

'Nora and Nathan read to her. Laney painted her nails. Derecc played Darth Vader wars. She fought with the nine-year-old twins. Clare was her true playmate, because even though she is 18, in practice she and Seraphina were both around three, so they liked the same things,' said Rene.

It wasn't unusual for Seraphina to order Nathan, her 10-year old brother, to read Little Critter books to her.

Nathan would say he was the big brother character and Seraphina was the little sister.

After Seraphina died, Nathan requested a Little Critters book be placed insider her casket.

'They all miss her terribly. She was the centering part of our family. She was our heart and soul,' said Rene.

Loved ones who knew Seraphina said her life wasn't defined by her illnesses - it was love.

'There is just no getting around acknowledging the heartache of those who love her the most, who truly weren't ready to see her go.' read the obituary.

'But truth is, sadness is not the defining sum of Seraphina's story...love is. Seraphina's larger than life personality only grew throughout her life, and you never had to guess what she was thinking or feeling.

'At least once a day, someone would snuggle up to her and repeat the Seraphina family motto: 'For a girl who can't talk, you sure are never quiet!'

She leaves behind four older brothers and three older sisters.
 
While there is a measured benefit for including learning-disabled students in the general population, I can't possibly see what kind of benefit including profoundly disabled students is supposed to bring. It monopolizes educator time and forces the other students to act as unwitting caretakers and education assistants. These showboating parents take advantage of inclusion policies designed for mild and moderately disabled but otherwise normal children and apply them to their potato children who are halted forever at a toddler or infant level of cognition.

There is absolutely a benefit to including learning disabled students in the general population. But it depends on the severity of the disability. Including them in classes like music, art & gym is fine, even if it's just to get them out of their regular classroom & for other kids to learn not to stare at the kids who are different. But if the child is so developmentally delayed that they will not get a single thing out of a class, it's a waste of time & tax payer dollars. It's a hard thing to accept as a parent, that your child won't do what other kids do but you have to. The sooner you do, the happier you & your child will be.

I've powerleveled in this thread before, so why stop now? My nephew with severe Autism will never get a high school diploma. My family will not enroll him in regular high school classes when he's old enough. He'll go to a program within the school system that will teach him things to help him deal with the world as best he can & he'll probably do things like gym, art & music with the mainstream students.

As for a dance class, I've seen some disabled kids get some use out of it. Kids with CF, MS, Downs, even paralyzed from the waist down can get something out of it, even if it's just moving their upper body/arms. But a child that is 100% paralyzed and with zero cognition...they'd do better to put her in a nice, quiet room with soft music than a noisy dance class. I'm sure a lot of mothers want their daughters to be ballerinas, but I would think you child's comfort and wellbeing should come first.
 

I will bring my comment from A&N here because the bio parents sound like tard baby horror cows and to a certain extent so is the surrogate.
The surrogate fled half way across the country to avoid the bio parents abortion demands, used her situation to grab money and then dump the kid as soon as she was born.

The bio parents sound like cows in the tard baby thread.

"The couple's first three children were all born prematurely, with two of them spending months in the hospital"

Then they go and implant one of their old frozen embryos into someone they met at a playground ?
Someone they didn't even vet enough to find out her stance on abortion.:stress:
Then they want to pay the surrogate to abort the child and when that didn't work they wanted to dump their own child into the cesspit that is the foster care system.

It is almost a miracle this kid ended up in such a loving home after the trash fire that was her bio and surrogate moms insanity.
 
The surrogate fled half way across the country to avoid the bio parents abortion demands, used her situation to grab money and then dump the kid as soon as she was born.

This is another example that shows why surrogacy agreements simply don't work and shouldn't be allowed at all or be enforceable in any way. You can't sell your internal organs and you shouldn't be able to sell babies either.
 
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