2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Salubrious]

Wait a second. The DNC is having AOC as one of their "featured speakers" for the convention, but she only gets 60 seconds to talk? I mean, I think it's funny, but the fuck is the point? Why only 60 seconds?

And apparently (according to Business Insider), it's going to be a prerecorded 60 seconds with the DNC's blessing.

Just, how do you fuck up this badly? I don't even want to listen to her speak, and I'm still stunned by this decision.

 

[Iceland Heavy]

Does anyone else feel like it'd be a very good time for Biden to suddenly drop out due to health concerns or even just straight up die? He's nothing but a liability now for getting Kamala into the Oval Office and they can nominate some token progressive lickspittle to shore up the left vote.

 

[GuntPunt]

Does anyone else feel like it'd be a very good time for Biden to suddenly drop out due to health concerns or even just straight up die? He's nothing but a liability now for getting Kamala into the Oval Office and they can nominate some token progressive lickspittle to shore up the left vote.

Even with his mind dissolving by the hour, Biden seems stubborn on not dropping out, like its HIS turn now. He even went against Obama when he advised Biden "didn't need to do this." Only way Biden steps aside for Copmala if he croaks or gets Epstien'd.

 

[TitusOvid]

You guys are forgetting that Biden did ok against his debate against Bernie.

Mostly because he was probably pampered ahead of time. I'm sure they could do the same against Tramp even if he will probably falter.

That's because Bernie Sanders is a terrible debater. He's not very capable of going on the attack or varying his message to make it more interesting. Trump is none of that. He can go hard on Biden.

 

[King Daddy Telomerase]

Does anyone else feel like it'd be a very good time for Biden to suddenly drop out due to health concerns or even just straight up die? He's nothing but a liability now for getting Kamala into the Oval Office and they can nominate some token progressive lickspittle to shore up the left vote.

No, not until post-election day. The whole reason Biden was chosen by the DNC is because Kamala can't win due to being so disliked. She'll near certainly lose to Trump. Choosing someone else at this point would come across weak and disorganized and also near certainly lose.

Best case for Kamala is Biden dies soon after 6 January, when they would officially be President-Elect and she could slide right in as VP.

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

That's because Bernie Sanders is a terrible debater. He's not very capable of going on the attack or varying his message to make it more interesting. Trump is none of that. He can go hard on Biden.

I remember when he was trying to speak at some sort of event in 2016 and BLM stormed the stage (ironic they always show back up during election years), basically jumped him, and took over the mic to start screaming. I actually kind of felt bad for him. At the end of the day that's an octogenarian getting unfairly attacked by fatass youth.

 

[PepsiVanilla]

No, not until post-election day. The whole reason Biden was chosen by the DNC is because Kamala can't win due to being so disliked. She'll near certainly lose to Trump. Choosing someone else at this point would come across weak and disorganized and also near certainly lose.

In that case, I wonder who they would move to the top of the ticket if JoePedo were to suffer a stroke or fall into a coma before November. It looks like that's not even so far fetched the way things are going.

 

[heyitsmike]

Does anyone else feel like it'd be a very good time for Biden to suddenly drop out due to health concerns or even just straight up die? He's nothing but a liability now for getting Kamala into the Oval Office and they can nominate some token progressive lickspittle to shore up the left vote.

Whoever is pulling the strings over at the DNC has a real risk/reward calculation decision on their hands.

If Biden somehow inexplicably makes it through the debates okay, he has a very good chance of beating Trump. Likely, even. Far better than Kamala's chances. However, if he performs like we suspect he might, they will lose certainly and handily, far worse than Kamala would fare.

Once the first debate happens, they are locked in and completely dependent on Biden's performance. After the debates they wouldn't be able to justify why they put him up in that condition.

But if they replace him with Kamala now, the election is more of an even proposition on their best day, but also no worse off on their worst day. If Biden has okay debates, Biden is 80/20 to win. If he completely falls apart, Trump is 80/20 to win. If they replace him with Kamala before the debates, it's closer to 50/50 (although personally I think Trump would steamroll her).

So somebody at the DNC has to a choice to make: Go in all or nothing, or coin flip.

 

[Salubrious]

I remember when he was trying to speak at some sort of event in 2016 and BLM stormed the stage (ironic they always show back up during election years), basically jumped him, and took over the mic to start screaming. I actually kind of felt bad for him. At the end of the day that's an octogenarian getting unfairly attacked by fatass youth.

It's always amazing that the left takes over other left people, but very rarely tries that shit with the actual right. Probably because they know they'll get BTFO.

I honestly cannot believe how many red pills I've taken this year. I mean, my values are still more left than right, but I absolutely despise people on the left.

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

It's always amazing that the left takes over other left people, but very rarely tries that shit with the actual right. Probably because they know they'll get BTFO.

I honestly cannot believe how many red pills I've taken this year. I mean, my values are still more left than right, but I absolutely despise people on the left.

They also took over a candlelight vigil/memorial service for the victims of the Orlando LGBT nightclub shooting. If anybody ever asks me in-person why I'm not attending the BLM rally (which they probably will since I'm transferring to a Uni in this current period, unfortunately), this is what I'll cite. I don't think there's decent rebuttal for this. If you're staunchly pro-LGBT, or LGBT yourself, how can you justify BLM hijacking what is basically a funeral and pissing on the graves?

Have you informed your friends about Kamala "being tough on crime"?

Wait a second. The DNC is having AOC as one of their "featured speakers" for the convention, but she only gets 60 seconds to talk? I mean, I think it's funny, but the fuck is the point? Why only 60 seconds?

And apparently (according to Business Insider), it's going to be a prerecorded 60 seconds with the DNC's blessing.

Just, how do you fuck up this badly? I don't even want to listen to her speak, and I'm still stunned by this decision.

Because they need to cater somehow to the woke crowd that simps for her who they secretly hate but need for votes.

 

[Someone Awful]

Kamala Harris is the embodiment of everything that is wrong with our country. She,

• Does not support the nuclear family
• Wants to raise taxes which will drive businesses away
• Is tough on suppressing dissent but not dealing with crime despite claiming to be a law and order figure
• Does not care about non-whites despite being partially Indian and African
• Wants to waste more money on gibs than we already do, turning it into a socialist economy and eventually into communist where the economy is centrally planned by the government
• Owes her political career towards sucking Willie Brown's dick
• Is pro-China

It's obvious that she is the real candidate and not Biden. Biden will last - at most - two years before Harris takes over. At around the two years mark, Harris can take over and still win two more election, making her a decade-long officially speaking. But even before then, she will be the shadow president and the start of a terrifying one-party far left regime by the Democrats. It cannot be underestimated how bad she will be for anyone that is not part of the elite.

I still think Trump has a decent shot of winning the presidency even with the polls against him, although it is far from a guaranteed. If she wins though, I will say this much,

Despite the fallout that will come from a Harris shadow presidency, I believe that one day, the system that enables people like her to get into power will dissipate. The flaw of wokeism is that it is anti-meritocracy. Far left politics are rewarded instead of skills in wokeism and that will only continue to become more blatant. As it becomes more obvious, more people will turn against wokeism and recognize it for the fraud it is. With increased unpopularity will eventually come a weakened immune system - advanced as it might be - and as it weakens, it will eventually collapse. It might take decades, possibly even centuries, but no establishments last forever and whatever replaces it can only be better.

Until then, we will have to fight it on all fronts. Hard times are coming, but that in itself will finally wake people up to what wokeism really is. I believe that most people are decent individuals and that is something that will never change about me no matter what. But over the course of years and decades, a lot of people will be taking the redpill. I myself had to do so after the riots.

 

[Salubrious]

Have you informed your friends about Kamala "being tough on crime"?

While I don't think they have TDS (although I'm starting to question that), I do know that they are so desperate for a blue win that they are desperately trying to figure out how that can happen.

Also, to be fair, my one major BernieBro friend has absolutely BTFO out of Kamala in our Facebook group chat. I'm almost certain he's staying home this election.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Yeah, I was thinking about it this morning. If you did a blind test on me, showed me Kamala's record, and then asked me to guess Democrat or Republican, I would have probably guessed Republican.

Tucker sounds like a liberal at minimum if it wasn't for the Fox News chyron when he talks economics and goes off on big business.

Maybe the ideologies and platforms are changing as this new democratic party has completely embraced big business and is living the lie that they are revolutionaries fighting the system.

Kamala Harris is the embodiment of everything that is wrong with our country. She,

• Does not support the nuclear family
• Wants to raise taxes which will drive businesses away
• Is tough on suppressing dissent but not dealing with crime despite claiming to be a law and order figure
• Does not care about non-whites despite being partially Indian and African
• Wants to waste more money on gibs than we already do, turning it into a socialist economy and eventually into communist where the economy is centrally planned by the government
• Owes her political career towards sucking Willie Brown's dick
• Is pro-China

It's obvious that she is the real candidate and not Biden. Biden will last - at most - two years before Harris takes over. At around the two years mark, Harris can take over and still win two more election, making her a decade-long officially speaking. But even before then, she will be the shadow president and the start of a terrifying one-party far left regime by the Democrats. It cannot be underestimated how bad she will be for anyone that is not part of the elite.

I still think Trump has a decent shot of winning the presidency even with the polls against him, although it is far from a guaranteed. If she wins though, I will say this much,

Despite the fallout that will come from a Harris shadow presidency, I believe that one day, the system that enables people like her to get into power will dissipate. The flaw of wokeism is that it is anti-meritocracy. Far left politics are rewarded instead of skills in wokeism and that will only continue to become more blatant. As it becomes more obvious, more people will turn against wokeism and recognize it for the fraud it is. With increased unpopularity will eventually come a weakened immune system - advanced as it might be - and as it weakens, it will eventually collapse. It might take decades, possibly even centuries, but no establishments last forever and whatever replaces it can only be better.

Until then, we will have to fight it on all fronts. Hard times are coming, but that in itself will finally wake people up to what wokeism really is. I believe that most people are decent individuals and that is something that will never change about me no matter what. But over the course of years and decades, a lot of people will be taking the redpill. I myself had to do so after the riots.

Kamala doesn't give a fuck about anyone but herself. Drop the non white angle and it sounds perfect.

Right wingers adopting the framing of the left has fucked them. And stop using buzzwords like radical leftist or Marxist would be a bonus since they have lost all meaning. AOC and other new democrats embrace those terms and they all getting reelected lol. I guess the people value some sort of principles over a typical fake poll tested politician.

 

[heyitsmike]

And stop using buzzwords like radical leftist or Marxist would be a bonus since they have lost all meaning. AOC and other new democrats embrace those terms and they all getting reelected lol.

They're only getting reelected because their constituents are radical leftists and Marxists too. Ain't nann one of them come from a district less blue than D+25.

If they wanna hang those terms around their own necks I'm more than willing to oblige. Who says bipartisanship is dead?

 

[GuntPunt]

The reality is that Harris, instead of being an inoffensive nobody (ie Tim Kaine or Mike Pence) that pretty much no one has heard of, she is a canidate who alienates both the left for her AG record, the right for her voting record, and both for her condescending demeanor. She gives no electoral advantage, and only opens up avenues of attack. Besides of her ultra hardcore vocal fanbase (3.4% of Dems which probably was already absorbed into Biden's percentage anyways), its still a baffeling pick. So much so that the media is going into maximum overdrive trying to keep the line in tow. Ultimately, I'm curious about how this will affect the polls down the line, especially since she is going to be the real president if elected. Gives Palin vibes.

 

[Salubrious]

Ultimately, I'm curious about how this will affect the polls down the line, especially since she is going to be the real president if elected. Gives Palin vibes.

I remember asking "if the DNC was throwing the presidental election, why not just let Bernie run his course?" and the answer was that the DNC was worried about downballot voting.

Kamala kinda runs that theory for me.

 

[heyitsmike]

Kamala kinda runs that theory for me.

It's consistent with them believing that Trump is so hated, anyone besides a self proclaimed socialist could beat him.

 

[MrJokerRager]

The reality is that Harris, instead of being an inoffensive nobody (ie Tim Kaine or Mike Pence) that pretty much no one has heard of, she is a canidate who alienates both the left for her AG record, the right for her voting record, and both for her condescending demeanor. She gives no electoral advantage, and only opens up avenues of attack. Besides of her ultra hardcore vocal fanbase (3.4% of Dems which probably was already absorbed into Biden's percentage anyways), its still a baffeling pick. So much so that the media is going into maximum overdrive trying to keep the line in tow. Ultimately, I'm curious about how this will affect the polls down the line, especially since she is going to be the real president if elected. Gives Palin vibes.

Palin was an idiot that was mocked by the MSM and roasted very hard by SNL back then. Kamala on the other hand has the backing of these institutions but they make her sound even more faker than she already was.

I remember asking "if the DNC was throwing the presidental election, why not just let Bernie run his course?" and the answer was that the DNC was worried about downballot voting.

Kamala kinda runs that theory for me.

Trump does a better job at helping downballot democrats than Biden or Kamala will lol.

 

[iRON-mAn]

The EU doesn't dictate UK monetary policy, the Bank of England does. The UK was never part of the Eurozone.

While technically true, the existence of the Eurozone was still able to apply pressure to the UK in practical terms. David Cameron's deal that he negotiated in 2016 before the referendum specifically requested a system where in Non-Eurozone countries could oppose rules made by Eurozone members that could potentially harm them because that was a real concern, and sought to separate further the obligations of non-Eurozone members to those using the Euro. It was one of the main tenets of the deal while it was being discussed. It never went into effect because of the referendum, but it was largely rejected because it didn't go far enough in safeguarding non-members against the Eurozone.

I still maintain that EU migration was the central issue behind Brexit. National sovereignty may poll higher, but that's only because it was a central slogan of the Leave campaign. When you actually sit people down and ask them what "sovereignty" Britain will be gaining by leaving the EU, however, they invariably either don't know, or they mention border controls.

As I see it, the issue of free movement was absolutely crucial to the referendum result.

Polling began long before the campaign though, and Remain sentiment was high while Cameron was re-negotiating the UK's place in the union. It was only when he returned and his deal barely changed anything about UK's position that people began to realize that the EU wasn't going to be negotiated with.

 

[King Daddy Telomerase]

Ultimately, I'm curious about how this will affect the polls down the line, especially since she is going to be the real president if elected. Gives Palin vibes.

As am I, we haven't had an important VP choice like this in recent history. I'm expecting a short term boost of a point or two for a week, and then once people start caring and recognize Trump has an actual opponent, the slow gradual decline comes. This election is still really all about Trump, though. If his job approval can get back to just the upper 40s, I think he'll run away with this in a landslide.