Guys, its happening.
hahaha, fuck it. Just fuck it.
hahaha, fuck it. Just fuck it.
Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off
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You know, I would have loved a live-action adaptation of the Thrawn Trilogy before Disney purchased the franchise.
Now, I'm just filled with dread.
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I like it how they nuked the entire EU but they are so creatively bankrupt that they cant stop poaching the corpse.
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Pretty much my thoughts on the prequels. But I think they key difference between the flaws of the prequels and the "sequels" though are two main things.
First issue is that as flawed as the prequels were, they don't nullify the achievements of the OT, and while Kenobi's choices are questionable (although it can be argued that he was doing the best he could for someone who had lost his master at a young age) the OT cast with the exception of Vader remained relatively unscratched, especially Palpatine. If anything Kenobi and Palpatine ended up with an even stronger fanbase among the young, so while the PT is as flawed as it is, it doesn't undo the achievements and devolve the main characters of the OT, with Han, Luke, Leia, Chewie, 3PO and R2 still fighting for something real and getting the ending they so richly fought for. Meanwhile, the ST, including TFA, goes out of its way to unravel the OT in every single way while doing nothing to repair or improve upon the PT, instead just breaking everything down for its own sake just to do a repeat for the sake of being a safe summer blockbuster (released in Christmas so extra toy sales) that's by no means a proper continuation of the franchise or even much of an SW movie outside of recycling referential jokes and ships.
Second issue, the prequels are Michael Bay minus the sex jokes, but unlike the hollow sequels, the prequels did not succeed in killing the franchise and even the prequels themselves managed to be salvaged thanks to a flood of spinoff/EU content which included highly praised video games, comics and an award-winning miniseries by Genndy which truly salvaged what would've been an abysmal concept like the Clone Wars which shat on everything we knew about it prior as described in the Thrawn Trilogy, which was later mended thanks to Outbound Flight. And as poorly conceived as Anakin's fall was in ROTS, the ROTS novelization was basically everything the film should've been and it explores this in more detail without George's questionable character directing. But then with the Disney sequels, there's no real content. There's no attempt to fix and add to their films. Everything they released to coincide with TFA and the rest of their nu-films not only lacked consistency and content, but they just weren't stories. They were patches and side notes. The job of the Disney EU wasn't to add substance or entertainment, it was to make a bunch of trivia notes about why you shouldn't question something stupid in the film, ie a whole comic for TLJ was made simply to tell you (through Leia and Ackbar themselves) to stop asking questions, and all the content that surrounded TFA wasn't about TFA or its characters, it was about Luke, Leia and Han and how stupid and clumsy they were and why they deserved to fail and why it should make sense not to care about them because they aren't the true heroes, people unrelated to the movies like Space Aladdin and Ahsoka were the true heroes. The new content didn't give you reasons to care about Rey Sue or any of these other new idiots, it only gave you material to try and make you hate everything that came before them, that was essentially everything Disney produced. The only exceptions to this were the first EAfront and the Rogue One tie-in novel which actually offered content+entertainment value, meanwhile the most notable comics starring Rey and Kylo Ren are 4 issue stories basically telling you nothing about them other than that "they're special and good". In comparison to the prequels, there was a wave of new content glorifying a legacy character like Kenobi and giving you reasons to love him more along with content based on the OT where Luke was raising a family and giving his damnedest to keep protecting the galaxy and the new jedi order.
In short, the prequels are meh to okay films at best with poor dialogue, but they managed to keep the franchise going while not completely surrendering the whole of the franchise to the personal shortcomings of the prequels, while the "sequels" instead are even abysmally worse films (people will argue for TFA but honestly its even worse because everything supposedly good about it is just rehashed copies of a film that was actually good, which makes it probably the worst of the sequels) that offered nothing to keep you invested and only focused on introducing more shortcomings so as to lower your expectations, resulting in it instead giving you reasons to stay the fuck away from it.
As for RLM, as I said before, they're Trekkies, especially Rich. Just because they're called "nerds" means very little, and they've made it clear that they really don't give two hoots about SW as an entity and the whole thing could be erased from existence without them batting an eye as opposed to the same thing happening to Star Trek which is where their primary fanboysim lies (also always seems like those most angry on the subject of SW being liked in any capacity outside of the first two OT films are usually those with a larger stake in trek than anything else) so it often comes off as disingenuous from those who get buttmad about "muh raped childhood" but then go onto say they were never that into SW when compared to Star Trek or Dr. Who (as our local boy Squid Diddler made clear during his ragepost). However RLM (specifically Mike and Jay) are not as bad as those lot because even in their prequel reviews they point out that their words shouldn't be taken as absolute and is mostly for comedic purposes (to which they succeeded in). The only one on RLM who even matches the disingenuous description is Rich, especially on some of his more ignorant comments.
From most of the rumors I'm hearing, its not actually a live action Thrawn Trilogy. Its much less chaotic than that. Thrawn is supposedly cameoing alongside Space Aladdin in the Mandalorian or the not-Katarn show. The stupid Aladdin's Rebels cartoon sequel may still be happening or not and may be released this November. But I have my doubts about these claims (even if they came from the same guy who leaked Bad Batch info) because Disney spared no time in revealing the Bad Batch cartoon which is set to air in late 2021 yet there's no word on an Aladdin Rebels cartoon despite supposedly coming out around November within a much shorter time frame.
Its kind of embarrassing really. They and their fans continuously bragged about how they didn't need old stuff yet their most celebrated and popular "new" character aside from Baby Yoda and Ahsoka (and formerly Kylo Ren whose "hype" has died down significantly since Reylo got shelved) is Thrawn himself. Its like people may have actually had an interest in seeing old stuff given new life and that making faithful adaptations for fans based on old things results in them telling the next generation to like them too, much like with the MCU. Go fig.
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Dear god. What is this art and why is it in my Star Wars?
Kill me.
Yin and Yang are also not Buddhist concepts.
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Here's all the covers for High Republic in case you're interested. So far the worst ones seem to be the first two, however the third (which is actually the first in the HR "saga) suffers from some horribly bland designs.
(Higher quality pics of the first three books)
Despite it saying August 2020, the High Republic multimedia project has been postponed until January 2021 (unless they announce another hiatus). In case you're morbidly curious, the "project" is just three books and two comic runs (one by Marvel and one by IDW, however with how IDW is currently decaying I expect both to be published under Marvel).
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The gap in art quality is frankly stunning.
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Yin and yang are concepts familiar to many east Asian Faiths, be they Buddhist, Taoist, or Confucian. They all believe in balancing both elements, while Lucas believes in the Light vanquishing the Dark.
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Disney's been poaching the EU corpse since day one, if we're being honest. It started gingerly with TFA and just went on from there. How much shit in Solo was flat out taken from the books?
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None of the quality, sadly.
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I'm sure there's My Little Pony fanfic with a broader scope.
Four billion dollar investment, five $200 million films, and now struggling to release three books.
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Basically, yes.
TFA was the Darth Caedus storyline, except even more butchered. The Last Jedi was a poor attempt to copy KOTOR 2's deconstruction of the Jedi. Rogue One was a decent film, yet somewhat overshadowed by its source material, Dark Forces. Rebels was a poor man's Force Unleashed. Solo copied some elements of Han's backstory with him being a Corellian ex-Imperial. Rise of Skywalker was the feminist Twilight version of Dark Empire, except sloppier.
For all the insults the Disney SW fans tossed at the Expanded Universe fans, their own canon is basically a mangled abortion of Expanded Universe plotlines shoddily constructed around a base that was made to pander to feminism and SJWs.
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Mantid News:
1: Unlike the not-Katarn Rogue One show (which I'm pretty sure ain't happening and will just be left in development limbo), it seems the Kenobi show may start shooting in September (supposedly), so take it with a grain of salt.
2: SW.com released some clickbait article which I thought meant Dr. Aphra was finally getting canned...
The art is as uninspiring as ever and like always the SW.com article only has one comment and one like... Can you guess from who?
I'm starting to suspect he's either mentally challenged or an actual bot. Either way, he doesn't read the articles it seems. Only place talking about this new Aphra prominently now is on Reddit and its surprisingly deader than usual.
This is literally all that's going on right now. Its just people baiting Aphra's simps and her simps crying "homophobe" since that's their only ammo these days.
3: World Class Bullshitters finally stopped awful livestreams for 2 minutes to actually make an informative video again, this time about SW merch (feels like ages since they actually bothered to discuss anything informative).
As expected, they point out that IX merch does not exist (a pretty big admission of failure there) but because of this SW toys have enjoyed some upswing but not on the same level it used to enjoy but better than the post TLJ period thanks mostly to OT re-releases and the Manadalorian which now take up a section in toy aisles, mainly Baby Yoda. It also seems that SW funko pops are the most popular of the funko shit. Quite frankly I'm sick Funko shit. Also the only IX toy to seemingly exist is the garbage-tier D-O for $150. Yeah, that shit ain't ever gonna move.
4: More people are talking about this supposed Kylo Ren Disney+ project because the asshole that made the Bad Batch leak posted some stupid Kylo Ren gif on twitter.
1: Unlike the not-Katarn Rogue One show (which I'm pretty sure ain't happening and will just be left in development limbo), it seems the Kenobi show may start shooting in September (supposedly), so take it with a grain of salt.
2: SW.com released some clickbait article which I thought meant Dr. Aphra was finally getting canned...
Fucking bullshit bait and switch. I'm almost certain these assholes did it to me on purpose since I'm one of only 5 fuckers still talking about their stupid site. The subject of the article is that apparently all of Aphra's friends except black Chewbacca are now dead and she's totally cornered now gaiz! How will she ever get out of this one?! Gasp... Shock... Awe...
The art is as uninspiring as ever and like always the SW.com article only has one comment and one like... Can you guess from who?
I'm starting to suspect he's either mentally challenged or an actual bot. Either way, he doesn't read the articles it seems. Only place talking about this new Aphra prominently now is on Reddit and its surprisingly deader than usual.
This is literally all that's going on right now. Its just people baiting Aphra's simps and her simps crying "homophobe" since that's their only ammo these days.
3: World Class Bullshitters finally stopped awful livestreams for 2 minutes to actually make an informative video again, this time about SW merch (feels like ages since they actually bothered to discuss anything informative).
4: More people are talking about this supposed Kylo Ren Disney+ project because the asshole that made the Bad Batch leak posted some stupid Kylo Ren gif on twitter.
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Is it a bot or a comment from an indian farm of fake accounts? They could at least pay for more than one account so it doesn't look suspicious.like always the SW.com article only has one comment and one like... Can you guess from who?
I'm starting to suspect he's either mentally challenged or an actual bot.
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I'm not arguing against that at all.
People change, and/or behave differently under different circumstances. In the game, Jango's older, more hardened and no longer the hot-headed kid driven by an all-consuming desire to avenge his surrogate father.
He makes them flawed, realistic characters, rather.
Vader wouldn't, because Vader doesn't actually give a fuck about the Sith philosophy. He only cares about the stability that the Empire provides to the Galaxy.
If you have to sustain 50% fatalities (plus God knows how many wounded) to overcome your enemy, then that enemy "totally wrecked" you.
Eh, not really. He goes after Mace in AOTC for no real reason (other than perhaps annoyance at Mace poking his lightsaber at him), when he could have just sit back and let him get gunned down via battle droid with all the other Jedi.
Your perception was damaged, but then you have a very eccentric view of Lucas's universe.
As @GeneralFriendliness has pointed out, authorial fiat dictates who wins a fight.
LOL
Anakin was fully trained, and a very experienced soldier and commander to boot. He still got (literally) cut to pieces by Obi-Wan, whom some fans like to disparage as a weak fighter, for some reason.
Er, no. Lucas has Obi-Wan and Yoda spend the whole of ROTS being completely blind and unsympathetic to the emotional breakdown that Anakin is undergoing. Obi-Wan only figures it out near the end, acknowledging that Anakin's fall to the Dark Side is his failure as well.
You're contradicting yourself.
And this is a non-sequitur.
Yeah, flawed good guys, blind to how they're slowly sealing their own doom.
You really need to start actually quoting statements from Lucas, rather than simply presuming to know his mind on the basis of "Te Jedi R Gud Guyz!"
Er, no. Kids apparently don't share your assessment, as the Fetts have been consistent best-sellers ever since before ESB hit theaters.
Not in my neck of the woods. I've seen Ahsoka figures sit around on the shelves for months at a time. Any figure with a T-visored helmet gets snapped up as soon as they hit the shelves.
There's actually a rather funny bit in Matthew Stover's Shatterpoint that seems to reflect/anticipate this, with Mace Windu slipping into Grumpy Old Man mode and bemoaning the fact that Kids These Days would rather play at being bounty hunters than Jedi Knights (which makes sense in-universe, since, as the TORtanic Bounty Hunter story shows, any Joe Schmoe can become a successful bounty hunter, whereas Jedi are a de facto genetic aristocracy).
Wrong.
That's like saying that "the Death Star would never have been destroyed in Luke and his daddy issues hadn't gotten in the way." It's an integral part of the story, and you're trying to wish it away because you want a different story than the one Lucas wrote.
Jango's "surprise" shot was successfully deflected by Trebor.
Not against Obi-Wan.
Source?
Jango was run over by a truck-sized dinosaur/rhino/thing.
Because he thought audiences might not believe a 13-year-old Boba killing Mace, not because he thought that Boba couldn't kill Mace.
LOL
Every post you've made in response to me is one long struggle against that fact.
The staging of the sail barge battle makes it pretty clear that Boba would have actually killed Luke if Han hadn't accidentally set off his rocketpack.
...show a certain amount of sympathy, as Jango and Boba are shown to have a genuinely affectionate father-son relationship (Jango showing real concern for Boba when Obi-Wan appears on Slave I's landing pad, Boba Fett getting a sad little little scene to himself as he forlornly cradles his father's helmet, all alone in the Geonosis arena), with Jango shown to be capable of fighting and killing Jedi and Boba shown to be more cunning and thoughtful than Darth Vader and an entire flotilla of Imperial Navy personnel (and to have Vader's respect to the point that Vader will tolerate his griping about the terms of the bounty with no more than a mild reprove in response).
Also, bounty hunters are, by their nature, not inherently aligned to either "good" or "bad." It all depends on which bounties they choose to pursue.
There's no indication that all of the captured Jedi were apprentices, and we know that Jedi Masters like Arren Kae were accompanying Revan to the front from early on. Besides, to hear you maunder on about Komari Vosa, even Padawans should have no trouble with mere Mandalorians.
Again, no indication of this. Rohlan states that all Mandalorians are under orders to take Jedi prisoner whenever possible.
LOL
Zayne Carrick is basically an avatar for the Will of the Force, and explicitly possesses some kind of chaos power that causes his antagonists to bumble when around him.
That is, again, simply the nature of the games. They're meant to make the player feel like the ultimate badass, whether he's playing as a Jedi, Sith or Mandalorian.
And if the Hunter becomes a Mandalorian, the player will get multiple dialogue options where the PC says that it feels good to be part of something greater than himself, and fight for a cause beyond money (and Mako will tell you that Braden would be pleased to see his former protege as a fully-blooded Mando).
That's the point, though. Any random schmuck with sufficient guts ("Mando'karla") can become Mandalorian, whereas Jedi membership is limited to an infinitesimal minority.
No, it simply shows that the Force was not with him that day, and goes back to @GeneralFriendliness's point that who beats who really depends on the story in question, not some calculation of "power levels."
And again, the de facto Mandalorian class is officially described as "Jedi Killers" by the developers.
No, actually. Even with a five-to-one numerical advantage, the Jedi still couldn't defeat the Mandalorians without ultimately eating a self-inflicted Pyrrhic victory on a massive scale.
LOL
Galidraan was not a war, nor did Jango's small force represent the majority of the Mandalorian population at the time.
I don't think Galidraan occurred in T-Canon.
"People" =/= "everyone."
Show me the numbers.
LOL
Game mechanics are not canon.
No, you like him because he acts like a bootlicker (alternately singing the praises of Revan or the Exile for "winning" Malachor depending on who's company he's in at the time).
The answer is that Mandalorian Iron is (unsurprisingly) rather expensive, so many Mandalorians just wear duraplast armor, which is good enough for most encounters unless you actually expect to have to fight someone with a lightsaber (the 1998 article "Boba Fett's Armor: An Essential Guide to a Walking Weapon" identifies Fett's iconic armor, which has apparently withstood dozens of hits from blasters, as duraplast).
It would be pretty strange if a faction which had access to a lightsaber-resistant metal was not making armor out of it.
The disposition of the CIS leadership is irrelevant (they are as much puppets maneuvered into place by Palpatine to play a specific role as the Jedi are). According to Lucas, as I've just shown, the Jedi are explicitly supposed to be "ambassadors," not military leaders, and becoming the latter helps contribute to the corruption of their Order.
You're far too fixated on rape.
I don't think the New Sith Wars caused anywhere near that much damage.
Indeed.
Historically, the Mandalorians have been portrayed as an important (if lesser) power at the Galactic level at several points in the past, so I don't find it unreasonable that they would begin to regain some of that importance in the aftermath of the Vong War, particularly as they seem to have taken much less of a beating from it than many other factions.
We'll see, I guess. I do think Traviss made a critical mistake with Etain's ultimate fate in Republic Commando (it would have been much more poignant if she had accidentally been killed by a Clone Trooper, I think) but finishing off LOTF will have to wait until after I finish my summaries of the RepCom books.
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The employees are the fans, and that one whiner might have accidentally revealed they manage those botnets and likes and reddits to fake fan response.
Disney Star Wars is a scam.
I guess communist china shills need to flock together. Either way, that trailer's gonna be shit unless Favreau manages to somehow keep Filoni under control. I doubt it since that whiny bitch loves telling to the CEO whenever he doesn't get his way, but that's the only hope for season 2 not being hot garbage.
I don't see it as too likely now, but I wouldn't be shocked if it's more vaporware bleated with desperation by Kennedy to further trick the investors into thinking Disney isn't drowning in debt and has no liquidity to make anything. No way are they getting Adam Driver tho, so I'm thinking it'd have to be CGI if they make it.
If it's CGI, I'll give a 1/3 shot of the rebels sequel happening. I apply the same odds to what I more firmly believe would actually be their shitty Alphabet Squadron rather than the far more liked Rogue Squadron, since Disney hates anything they did not personally make shittier.
I still believe it's all fucking vaporware tho.
It's about middle to high-middle fanfiction tier in terms of writing style. Quick description dumps like what the writer did is a tell that's where they started and likely were still at before being hired for a criminally low price. The content is insipid, and that random black girl's mom, if she REALLY wanted to make sure she got punished and learned hardship, should've exiled her to like an amish world of some type where the most advanced stuff they have is made of some type of wood.5: Much like how Disney previously released a large preview of the first few pages of the first book in their new High Republic series on IGN, Disney has once again released the first few pages of their second High Republic book (the one starting the green girl and the ugly femdroid from TFA), but this this time they released it on SW.com to the wide and vast audience of... one guy...
The only guy who ever posts on SW.com and likes their articles...
A New Journey Begins in A Test of Courage - Exclusive Excerpt and Interview | StarWars.com
Author Justina Ireland speaks to StarWars.com about her highly-anticipated Star Wars: The High Republic book. Plus, meet teen Jedi Vernestra Rwoh and tech-wiz Avon Starros in a special preview.www.starwars.com
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Same copypaste comment he always makes too. In fact the only place where any number of people are even talking about this (or any Disney related SW media that's not the Mandalorian show) is on Reddit and Twitter unsurprisingly yet everywhere else is almost fucking empty on discussion despite Twitter and Reddit having "thousands" of likes.
Anyway here's the preview of the book:
Also that Andrew fellow likely is a bot or he lets an account bot for him and the site just doesn't care since little interaction is better than NO interaction.
Vaporware until they prove otherwise by starting shoots and getting a crew and actors together. Kennedy announces this sort of shit all the time as a scam to trick investors into believing their stock is less shit than it really is.
Kennedy hates anything Lucas okayed, Iger hates anything legacy that he personally didn't preside over, and Filoni seemingly hates Zahn for being more important in lore creation than he is. Until they prove they're filming this, I'm calling bullshit.
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I thought this comment was funny:
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What I was referring to was mentioned later after my post, not important in universe galaxy wise, of course that makes sense(they are like the Hapan Consortium in that sense imo) but important in a meta story sense in a way that Karen justified but I believe was forced due to what she likes and not necessarily the most sound pathway to the conclusion we got in universe.
KT works really well in the Republic Commando series since she can go wild and indulge in what she likes without having to incorporate the larger universe and the implications to it that she writes. Or atleast not in the same way.
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Eh, Buddhism's less about light and dark and more about easing suffering through the relinquishment of your Earthly desires, thereby achieving eternal peace and enlightenment, all of which I'm sure sounds very familiar. There's a surprising amount of Buddhist thought in Star Wars, despite George's probable lack of understanding. The Light Side representing the peace and freedom from suffering that Buddhist enlightenment is all about whereas the Dark Side represents clinging to worldly goods, becoming enamored with suffering—yours and others—and the inability to accept impermanence; i.e. Anakin trying to stop his baby mama's death.
I know it's sort of a weird subject for the "bitching about how shit Star Wars is now" thread, but esotericism is in my wheelhouse.
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I'm not the least bit surprised. Even before the ride was open to the public they'd been having numerous technical problems with it. It took a shit ton of cash just to get it into a presentable state on opening day. It was a rushed job made all the more rushed by how they rushed the opening of the park by almost a year. They've already wasted almost a billion in repairs just to get it into this sorry state, so I doubt they'll be willing to spend a billion more on it. I expect to see little improvement, only cheaper alternatives. They already said before Corona started that they were planning to replace more of the animatronics with cheap animated cutscenes to avoid any more expensive crashes, having already replaced a few as seen in the video. Probably by next year they will have replaced all the animatronics (except maybe Finn) with LED screens. Pretty fucking pathetic all around. The only benefit to this is that it would make it insanely easier to convert the ride from a First Order one into a Galactic Empire one by just replacing cutscenes. Only real physical change it would require is replacing the stormtrooper helmets at the start, the not-Ackbar with Ackbar, the BB-8 in the waiting area with R2, the holo-Rey with Luke or some nobody and the Finn animatronic with Han Solo or something. Either way this will just end up pissing off a shit ton of people, old fans will just say "oh so now you give a shit?", new fans would be royally pissed, and others would just see this as desperation which would deal a heavy blow to Disney's self-righteous image about only looking towards the future and the sequels.
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