2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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IMO Trump should have just livestreamed a reaction video to the final DNC night with Hannity/Tucker, which would have just been them drinking cold drinks and lobbing cheap potshots, bad jokes, and quips at Biden and the DNC.

Would have easily cleared a million views in the first day or so, easy. And the boomers and blue-collars would love them for that.


Florida, Ohio and Iowa are relatively safe IMO. Trump might be able to get Minnesota if he plays the right cards, but I still think it leans blue.

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The Rust Belt and NC/Georgia is where attention needs to be paid. Arizona, maybe, but it's likely a harder uphill battle especially with McSally.

Important note is to see where the candidates spend their time (also keep an eye out for state polls, national ones are useless at this point):
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For those wondering, this is the article (archive) Live Monitor is referring too. My question is, how many operatives did Clinton had in 2016? Trump won the state so it is worth noting if the Democrats have scaled down efforts to get what honestly should be one of their biggest pushes this year.

Speaking of state polls, keep an eye out on RealClearPolitics if you have not. They will update whenever a poll happens (at least most of the time, not sure why the Wisconsin being a tie between Biden and Trump is not showing up).
Try to get a million first-generation, broke-ass dishwashers to take a shift off work to vote for Biden or Trump. not happening.

Sanders at least drew them to political action. They've got relatives in the Trump/Obama cages, they're not going to turn out for this round. AZ will probably be red.

edit to add; I wouldn't be so sure about Iowa. Most jobs there are packing plants, farming. That derecho wiped them the fuck out, after two years of economic battering from Trump (or that they perceive as from him) and they're not pleased.
I believe that had Sanders won the nomination this year, he would have taken Arizona since he would actually excite potential Hispanic voters. As it is, I see as a toss-up that leans red this year. As for Iowa, I still think it will stay red even if by a smaller margin. It beat out both Texas - a likely and Ohio this year and I'm not sure if there will be a double digit swing back to the Democrats when the Midwest has been trending purple in the 2010s.

Minnesota has a decent chance just because of how badly the riots damaged Minneapolis's economy and that the state has been trending increasingly purple since 2008. Trump needs to hit Minnesota hard and win it while the citizens are willing to listen to Republican alternatives. Doing so could turn it into a red-purple state and will continue chipping off the Blue Wall the Democrats made between 1992 and 2012.
I have no idea about Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, I do think Ohio is very likely to go to Trump but it's always a swing state. Florida is another perpetual swing state but it also is one of the hardest hit states by COVID-19.

I think Michigan is still very much in play just because of how much Wilmer is hated and I also think Virginia has a chance of flipping red for similar reasons with Northam and how badly the Richmond area was battered by BLM. Trump is more likely to win Michigan than Virginia due to the fact that Wilmer is even more brazenly corrupt and openly detested than Northam is and because the DNC does not want to lose a Southern state that they spent decades turning blue.

I think Arizona is safely red for now but will definitely be a purple state in future elections, and I also think New York flipping red is very optimistic at the absolute best but I can see the GOP getting over the 40% threshold because of how bad Cuomo fucked the state and how bad NYC got battered by the pandemic and the subsequent riots.

Unless the voter turnout is extremely depressed within the wider NYC area and the voter base is extremely energized upstate, I do not think New York will be able to flip red. Same goes for the vote in Oregon, although I think Trump has a slightly better shot at winning Oregon than New York. Slightly.

The big ones to focus on are Florida, Ohio, Michigan, and Minnesota.

Trump should also do what he can to get more ground game in Arizona, North Carolina, and Virginia in addition to Minnesota and the four key states he won in 2016. This would be both to keep the former three and possibly flip the latter one and make sure he wins the as many of the other five a second time.

Trump winning Minnesota is the kind of thing that can also be a motivating factor in the DNC and the corporate elites fully disavowing the Woke Left should Trump win 2020.

The Dems might win Iowa but it'll be close either way, so Trump should likely do some ground game there too.
The problem with COVID-19 is that unless you're on the right (and even then only a maybe), you are likely going to assume that COVID-19 is a fuck up on Trump's part. That has hurt Trump's job approval and he is only now starting to recover from that. I don't see the pandemic doing any good for Trump unless he starts hitting on how Democrats in states like New Jersey (which has the highest percentage of COVID-19 fatality) and New York failed to respond to it. Even then, he will also be hit with how the mostly Republican-controlled Florida has "failed" its citizens. Unless COVID-19 declines in death rate in Florida by the time election hits, I don't see it helping him. I still think Florida is the biggest question mark and I do not have a gut feeling either way. As Harvey Danger said, voters care about how they feel about the situation and most do not approve of Trump's handling of the pandemic.

Fair point with Michigan and Virginia. I still lean blue on both, but Michigan has a better chance because of what you said. As for Oregon, I noticed that we have not seen a single poll regarding it to my knowledge. I've wondered if it could be a swing state, but I do not want to get my hopes up. The best bet for conservative Oregon citizens would be to keep pushing for the state to turn red, which the riot could start pushing towards. The state I want to see flip the most is Minnesota for what you said and that it would be the first time in forty-eight years it voted Republican.

I have wondered what Republican's plans are to flip states that are solidly blue now in the coming decades. Up until Trump's election, I had assumed Republicans were simply trying to maintain lost ground, but the surprise win of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania made me think that maybe Republicans have an opportunity to re-align the country to where the Midwest and Northeast mostly vote Republicans while keeping most of the Northwest and the Southeast + Utah and maybe Oregon. The problem is, they need to get non-whites to start voting for them and it needs to start this election. If non-whites trend further blue, Trump will lose even if he picks up a percentage or two of the white only population (as the White Hispanics vote mostly Democrats anyway)
 
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In the interests of making 2020 even less predictable and screwing up prediction maps everywhere, Kanye West dropped a track list state ballot list.

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Probably the most interesting ones on there are Iowa and Minnesota. Conventional wisdom is that Kanye pulls black support away from Biden, so he could tip those states away from going blue. I think he actually pulls some of Trump's "fuck you" voters as well, like the 12% of Bernie voters in 2016 who went to Trump. There's a bunch of states he failed to get on the ballot, big ones like FL and OH where even pulling just 2-3% might have made a difference.

Kanye being Kanye, he might just drop out in a week because he's bored. Or, Kanye being Kanye, he might dive headfirst into a full insane campaign because people told him not to do it. So I don't know how much this messes with the electoral calculation. He isn't even included in polling yet, but soon, he might have to be.

Also: haters gonna hate
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Look at all those whitey pfps trying to keep a black man down. No seriously, I scanned through a lot more, and the overwhelming majority of negative responses were lily-white honkies. I know "Democrats are the real racists" is a tired comeback by now, but they really do everything they can to help the meme along.
 
In the interests of making 2020 even less predictable and screwing up prediction maps everywhere, Kanye West dropped a track list state ballot list.

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Probably the most interesting ones on there are Iowa and Minnesota. Conventional wisdom is that Kanye pulls black support away from Biden, so he could tip those states away from going blue. I think he actually pulls some of Trump's "fuck you" voters as well, like the 12% of Bernie voters in 2016 who went to Trump. There's a bunch of states he failed to get on the ballot, big ones like FL and OH where even pulling just 2-3% might have made a difference.

Kanye being Kanye, he might just drop out in a week because he's bored. Or, Kanye being Kanye, he might dive headfirst into a full insane campaign because people told him not to do it. So I don't know how much this messes with the electoral calculation. He isn't even included in polling yet, but soon, he might have to be.

Also: haters gonna hate
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Look at all those whitey pfps trying to keep a black man down. No seriously, I scanned through a lot more, and the overwhelming majority of negative responses were lily-white honkies. I know "Democrats are the real racists" is a tired comeback by now, but they really do everything they can to help the meme along.
The legal immigrants from nigger and mudpeople countries these days are usually left leaning liberals or opportunists looking for gibs. Change the immigration system is the only true way to address the control Democrats have over legal immigrants. Illegal immigrants came from countries decimated hard by Uncle Sam and unless the war on drugs is stopped, those countries will still go to shit.
 
I scanned through a lot more, and the overwhelming majority of negative responses were lily-white honkies.
I am surprised that you are surprised.

"Democrats are the real racists" is a tired comeback by now
On the contrary, it's as relevant and true as the day it was first said. They are racist as fuck, and overtly so.

My hate for the left is ideological. But my hate for the Democrats is personal.
 
Even then, he will also be hit with how the mostly Republican-controlled Florida has "failed" its citizens. Unless COVID-19 declines in death rate in Florida by the time election hits, I don't see it helping him. I still think Florida is the biggest question mark and I do not have a gut feeling either way.

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I think Florida will be fine by election time in terms of covid. Don't believe everything you hear on CNN, Florida isn't a hellscape and things are fairly normal.
 
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I think Florida will be fine by election time in terms of covid. Don't believe everything you hear on CNN, Florida isn't a hellscape and things are fairly normal.

The only people who give a shit about the pandemic to not go out willingly are Dem strongholds like Broward. The positivity rate in testing is about 6%. Anywhere else near beaches or in less populated areas don't wear mask or social distance. It's night and day difference.
 
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I think Florida will be fine by election time in terms of covid. Don't believe everything you hear on CNN, Florida isn't a hellscape and things are fairly normal.

Things (in terms of MAGA, I mean) are great in Florida. Just wear your mask on the bus, or at work or at the grocery store. There was barely any rioting in June, our curfews were only for two weeks.

Desantis is better than he may get credit for, he didnt allow this crucial state to burn. Universal Studios has been open since June, and from what I've seen at its bus stop, its tourism hasnt been that bad. My sisters job at Disney actually came back too, thankfully for us.

And my last paycheck was great too.

Trump isn't bluffing when he says things are getting better financially.
 
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I think Florida will be fine by election time in terms of covid. Don't believe everything you hear on CNN, Florida isn't a hellscape and things are fairly normal.
Fair enough. I'm still not sure how this is supposed to help Trump's chances though, unless he thinks he can pull off a narrative that Florida is an example of a state that is recovering from COVID-19. Even then, he would have to figure out how to not have the blame put on him for everything COVID-19 related.

Hopefully the riots will get people to start looking at their politicians at a state or local level. If so, I will be more optimistic about this election.
 
In the interests of making 2020 even less predictable and screwing up prediction maps everywhere, Kanye West dropped a track list state ballot list.

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link / archive

Probably the most interesting ones on there are Iowa and Minnesota. Conventional wisdom is that Kanye pulls black support away from Biden, so he could tip those states away from going blue. I think he actually pulls some of Trump's "fuck you" voters as well, like the 12% of Bernie voters in 2016 who went to Trump. There's a bunch of states he failed to get on the ballot, big ones like FL and OH where even pulling just 2-3% might have made a difference.

Kanye being Kanye, he might just drop out in a week because he's bored. Or, Kanye being Kanye, he might dive headfirst into a full insane campaign because people told him not to do it. So I don't know how much this messes with the electoral calculation. He isn't even included in polling yet, but soon, he might have to be.

Also: haters gonna hate
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Look at all those whitey pfps trying to keep a black man down. No seriously, I scanned through a lot more, and the overwhelming majority of negative responses were lily-white honkies. I know "Democrats are the real racists" is a tired comeback by now, but they really do everything they can to help the meme along.

Interesting given that Minnesota and Virginia are both on that list, which can help Trump's effort in flipping them red for 2020. Same goes for helping keep Iowa and maybe flipping Colorado red.

Kanye is not only the kind of threat to the Democratic Party who could siphon off black votes, but also siphon off a lot of younger votes from the Millennial and Early Zoomer crowd just in general. He's one of those celebrities that everyone in a certain generation knows about and has some opinion about.

I'm an out-of-touch "27-year old Boomer" and the IRL version of the "Le Wrong Generation" meme but even I know who Kanye West is and that he could get a lot of Millennials who'd otherwise vote Democrat to vote third-party instead since Biden is probably hated by the majority of the Late Millennial and Early Zoomer voters who lean left. Even with TDS taken into account, the big temptation is still there.

Most of the black voters who vote for Kanye would be from those age groups, while older black voters from the Baby Boomers and Generation X are more likely to go to Biden. Part of Biden's outstanding performance in the primaries was because of older black voters showing up in droves while the younger people all excited for Bernie didn't even bother to show up for the primary.
 
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Interesting given that Minnesota and Virginia are both on that list, which can help Trump's effort in flipping them red for 2020. Same goes for helping keep Iowa and maybe flipping Colorado red.

Kanye is not only the kind of Democrat who could siphon off black votes, but also siphon off a lot of younger votes from the Millennial and Early Zoomer crowd in general. He's one of those celebrities that everyone in a certain generation knows about and has some opinion about, I'm an out-of-touch "27-year old Boomer" and the IRL version of the "Le Wrong Generation" meme but even I know who Kanye West is and that he could get a lot of Millennials who'd otherwise vote Democrat to vote third-party instead since Biden is probably hated by the majority of the Late Millennial and Early Zoomer voters who lean left. Even with TDS taken into account, the big temptation is still there.

Most of the black voters who vote for Kanye would be from those age groups, while older black voters from the Baby Boomers and Generation X are more likely to go to Biden. Part of Biden's outstanding performance in the primaries was because of older black voters showing up in droves while the younger people all excited for Bernie didn't even bother to show up for the primary.
While both Virginia and Minnesota have potential, Colorado is a full-blown California colony. That state is not going to go red any time soon.
 
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The Dissident Right is dead, and has been replaced by the Trump Liberals. The surge of interest in /pol/ represents, and correlates to, the growth of the Dissident Right in 2016. However after the election, tech censorship quickly prevented the organic growth of the movement. No longer could "far right" content producers reach new audiences by recommendation on social platforms. Another factor was the growth of Trump supports as a new political class among classical-liberals, libertarians, and boomers. The Trump's platform is obviously not conservative in the true sense, This took energy away from the dissident right.

The Dissident Right is characterized by three topics: Race-realism, sex-realism, and the Jewish question. First, that there are significant biological differences between different races of humans which contribute to different socioeconomic and political outcomes. This is differences in aggression, reproduction, IQ, temperament, and values. Sex-realism is the observation that there are significant differences between the two sexes, and that there are gender roles which occur naturally as a result. The Jewish question relates to the over representation of Jews in institutions of power and influence. And the results of this power.

Trump's platform, and his movement, reject all three of these things. Trump, and his neo-cons, fetishize negro support. They take the position that all of the ills of negro society are the result of Democrat policy. That there will soon be a day when all the negros of the US join them and act like whites. Trump and his type also support feminism, limited abortion, suffrage, and the injection of women in the workplace. Most of all, Trump's and his concert are fervent in their servitude to Israel and its nation. They decry criticism of the chosen people, and celebrate every victory of the Jew.

The Trump movement is only related to the Dissident Right only so far as they are both enemies of the Progressives. Trump is a 90s or 2000 liberal. The Dissident Right is composed of 1850s conservatives. When the Progressives in power prevented the growth of the Dissident Right by censorship, they were preventing the radicalization of members of Trump's movement into subscribers to the Dissident Right. This was convenient to the Progressives, who would much rather face opponents who share 90% of their own goals; rather than the Dissident Right which shares none of them.

The overall result of this is that Trump's movement has the effect of being a relief value to the Progressive tantalization of the America, rather than a revolution against it. it is a momentary speed bump. I do not think that this is the result of an over arching plan, but is an emergent phenomenon. There was bound to be a push-back at the rate things were going. The amplitude of this recoil was just dampened by the technology oligarchs.
 
While both Virginia and Minnesota have potential, Colorado is a full-blown California colony. That state is not going to go red any time soon.
Which is kind of weird since it was pretty red not too long ago. Isn't Colorado Springs kind of fundie central too?
 
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The Dissident Right is dead, and has been replaced by the Trump Liberals. The surge of interest in /pol/ represents, and correlates to, the growth of the Dissident Right in 2016. However after the election, tech censorship quickly prevented the organic growth of the movement. No longer could "far right" content producers reach new audiences by recommendation on social platforms. Another factor was the growth of Trump supports as a new political class among classical-liberals, libertarians, and boomers. The Trump's platform is obviously not conservative in the true sense, This took energy away from the dissident right.

The Dissident Right is characterized by three topics: Race-realism, sex-realism, and the Jewish question. First, that there are significant biological differences between different races of humans which contribute to different socioeconomic and political outcomes. This is differences in aggression, reproduction, IQ, temperament, and values. Sex-realism is the observation that there are significant differences between the two sexes, and that there are gender roles which occur naturally as a result. The Jewish question relates to the over representation of Jews in institutions of power and influence. And the results of this power.

Trump's platform, and his movement, reject all three of these things. Trump, and his neo-cons, fetishize negro support. They take the position that all of the ills of negro society are the result of Democrat policy. That there will soon be a day when all the negros of the US join them and act like whites. Trump and his type also support feminism, limited abortion, suffrage, and the injection of women in the workplace. Most of all, Trump's and his concert are fervent in their servitude to Israel and its nation. They decry criticism of the chosen people, and celebrate every victory of the Jew.

The Trump movement is only related to the Dissident Right only so far as they are both enemies of the Progressives. Trump is a 90s or 2000 liberal. The Dissident Right is composed of 1850s conservatives. When the Progressives in power prevented the growth of the Dissident Right by censorship, they were preventing the radicalization of members of Trump's movement into subscribers to the Dissident Right. This was convenient to the Progressives, who would much rather face opponents who share 90% of their own goals; rather than the Dissident Right which shares none of them.

The overall result of this is that Trump's movement has the effect of being a relief value to the Progressive tantalization of the America, rather than a revolution against it. it is a momentary speed bump. I do not think that this is the result of an over arching plan, but is an emergent phenomenon. There was bound to be a push-back at the rate things were going. The amplitude of this recoil was just dampened by the technology oligarchs.
Ok I agree with you but
  1. Why is this in the general election thread? Wouldn't this post mask more sense in a Deep Thots OP?
  2. This reads like you took it as a copypasta from another website.
Edit: This is the deep thoughts election thread; I just owned myself.
 
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Which is kind of weird since it was pretty red not too long ago. Isn't Colorado Springs kind of fundie central too?
So was Virginia. Colorado's problem was that there were only so many California refugees a state could take before it inevitably flipped into one that is now replicating the same policies that ruined California. Virginia's problem is that they're next to DC, and what turned Virginia blue is basically that part of DC growing into the state. Like I said, Virginia does have potential if the Blue Dog Dem voters realize that their party has abandoned them but Colorado is a whole different matter; the people that vote Democrat were not former working class Blue Dogs but the worst of the worst: California hipsters.
 
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The Dissident Right is dead, and has been replaced by the Trump Liberals. The surge of interest in /pol/ represents, and correlates to, the growth of the Dissident Right in 2016. However after the election, tech censorship quickly prevented the organic growth of the movement. No longer could "far right" content producers reach new audiences by recommendation on social platforms. Another factor was the growth of Trump supports as a new political class among classical-liberals, libertarians, and boomers. The Trump's platform is obviously not conservative in the true sense, This took energy away from the dissident right.

The Dissident Right is characterized by three topics: Race-realism, sex-realism, and the Jewish question. First, that there are significant biological differences between different races of humans which contribute to different socioeconomic and political outcomes. This is differences in aggression, reproduction, IQ, temperament, and values. Sex-realism is the observation that there are significant differences between the two sexes, and that there are gender roles which occur naturally as a result. The Jewish question relates to the over representation of Jews in institutions of power and influence. And the results of this power.

Trump's platform, and his movement, reject all three of these things. Trump, and his neo-cons, fetishize negro support. They take the position that all of the ills of negro society are the result of Democrat policy. That there will soon be a day when all the negros of the US join them and act like whites. Trump and his type also support feminism, limited abortion, suffrage, and the injection of women in the workplace. Most of all, Trump's and his concert are fervent in their servitude to Israel and its nation. They decry criticism of the chosen people, and celebrate every victory of the Jew.

The Trump movement is only related to the Dissident Right only so far as they are both enemies of the Progressives. Trump is a 90s or 2000 liberal. The Dissident Right is composed of 1850s conservatives. When the Progressives in power prevented the growth of the Dissident Right by censorship, they were preventing the radicalization of members of Trump's movement into subscribers to the Dissident Right. This was convenient to the Progressives, who would much rather face opponents who share 90% of their own goals; rather than the Dissident Right which shares none of them.

The overall result of this is that Trump's movement has the effect of being a relief value to the Progressive tantalization of the America, rather than a revolution against it. it is a momentary speed bump. I do not think that this is the result of an over arching plan, but is an emergent phenomenon. There was bound to be a push-back at the rate things were going. The amplitude of this recoil was just dampened by the technology oligarchs.
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The Dissident Right is dead, and has been replaced by the Trump Liberals. The surge of interest in /pol/ represents, and correlates to, the growth of the Dissident Right in 2016. However after the election, tech censorship quickly prevented the organic growth of the movement. No longer could "far right" content producers reach new audiences by recommendation on social platforms. Another factor was the growth of Trump supports as a new political class among classical-liberals, libertarians, and boomers. The Trump's platform is obviously not conservative in the true sense, This took energy away from the dissident right.

The Dissident Right is characterized by three topics: Race-realism, sex-realism, and the Jewish question. First, that there are significant biological differences between different races of humans which contribute to different socioeconomic and political outcomes. This is differences in aggression, reproduction, IQ, temperament, and values. Sex-realism is the observation that there are significant differences between the two sexes, and that there are gender roles which occur naturally as a result. The Jewish question relates to the over representation of Jews in institutions of power and influence. And the results of this power.

Trump's platform, and his movement, reject all three of these things. Trump, and his neo-cons, fetishize negro support. They take the position that all of the ills of negro society are the result of Democrat policy. That there will soon be a day when all the negros of the US join them and act like whites. Trump and his type also support feminism, limited abortion, suffrage, and the injection of women in the workplace. Most of all, Trump's and his concert are fervent in their servitude to Israel and its nation. They decry criticism of the chosen people, and celebrate every victory of the Jew.

The Trump movement is only related to the Dissident Right only so far as they are both enemies of the Progressives. Trump is a 90s or 2000 liberal. The Dissident Right is composed of 1850s conservatives. When the Progressives in power prevented the growth of the Dissident Right by censorship, they were preventing the radicalization of members of Trump's movement into subscribers to the Dissident Right. This was convenient to the Progressives, who would much rather face opponents who share 90% of their own goals; rather than the Dissident Right which shares none of them.

The overall result of this is that Trump's movement has the effect of being a relief value to the Progressive tantalization of the America, rather than a revolution against it. it is a momentary speed bump. I do not think that this is the result of an over arching plan, but is an emergent phenomenon. There was bound to be a push-back at the rate things were going. The amplitude of this recoil was just dampened by the technology oligarchs.
If your argument is that there is such a thing as the "Dissident Right" and that it's encapsulated from /pol/, then you start out wrong. /pol/ is not a political monolith where all it's anonymous members share an ideology. You can find all sorts of people posting in /pol/: traditionalist conservatives, libertarians, edgy teenagers, race-realists, jaded classical liberals, paleoconservatives, and yes, neo-nazis. Being that it's a site that's most infamously known for anonymous shitposting, saying that it constitutes a unified political force is idiotic from the get-go. I've seen more than a few Israeli flags in there for fuck's sake, so stating that all of /pol/ is concerned about da joos besides just joking about it is dumb already. Not to mention the hordes of South American countries that are constantly there just for laughs. At most you can say that /pol/ leans right-wing, which is true. The one time that /pol/ decided to show up IRL to an event was Shia Labeouf's HWNDU debacle. The pro-Shia asshats chanting "He will not divide us!" were far fucking whiter than the IRL shitposters.

But let's take it for granted that this movement exists. If Trump is ignoring them in favor of popular support from several minority groups that are willing to break away from Democrat hold, then good. Ethnonationalists are fucking retarded and the only time it could've been done if they had completely genocided the Indians and turned back the potato refugees during the civil war. Pretty much every alt-right figure turned out to be a dysfunctional lolcow that Himmler would be only too glad to hand over to the Dirlewanger brigade.
 
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