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Texas is faring reasonably well, at least from a virus standpoint. Houston hospitals briefly dipped into sustainable surge capacity around mid july, but Corona hospitalizations have been steeply declining throughout late July and August. The rolling average of deaths per day is around 1-200 deaths per day statewide and slowly going down. The boomers in charge of counting tests are apparently severely bottlenecked in how many tests they can test per day even after a software upgrade. As a result, there's a massive backlog of positive tests pending assignment to specific counties, and each one assigned is treated as a new case on the day that it is processed. As a consequence, the test positivity rate is inflated to ridiculous amounts. The kicker? The governor is using that positivity rate as a bellweather for when reopening can resume.

That's how it works in Ohio, kind of. When the governor gives his daily numbers, it the reported numbers for that day. If you want the real numbers you have to go to the state COVID dashboard and pull up a CSV file. Ohio's numbers has been falling across the board, I think our positivity rate has dropped below 5%. The governor will credit masks, I'm sure, but our Rt has been under 1 for almost two months and before there was a statewide mandate. It was already on the way out. We still have no firm date or metrics for when the state can go back to normal. DeWine just says "When all Ohioans are safe."
 
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Classes start here on Monday. The partying has been out of control the last two days. Worst I've ever seen it. I don't know why, I guess the kids have had this shit bottled up over the last six months and need to get it out of their system. Pics going around on Twitter of the bars here packed to capacity. Cops busted up a frat party with 400 people this afternoon. Nobody is wearing a mask.

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The Twitter wokescolds are losing their minds.

Got two separate emails from the university president and the dean of the college plus a text from the school's emergency alert system bitching about how everyone has been "irresponsible" over the last week and claiming that "they're putting the semester at risk".

It's going to be real interesting what happens. Either this thing is real or it isn't, and these party schools in red states are going to give us an answer real quick.

WOW

They are apparently going to start punishing kids for off-campus parties under the "Student Code of Conduct". Talk about overreach. I don't know how the hell they are going enforce this.

Dear,

I am writing to inform you that University is enacting a COVID-19 safety policy for student social gatherings. Effective immediately, all on-campus and off-campus gatherings of students must comply with all health orders, including wearing appropriate face coverings and limiting the size of the gathering to ensure 6-foot physical distancing. Students attending any social gathering, on- or off-campus, must comply with the university's face covering mandate and physical distancing guidelines.

Because of the serious public health ramifications, the university will enforce this policy through the Student Code of Conduct. Students will be held accountable for violating COVID-19 health and safety policies and standards, including the social gathering policy.

Students who engage in irresponsible behavior, including attending large gatherings or parties that violate physical distancing and face covering rules, will be subject to university discipline, and could lead to suspension.

Last weekend the nation saw an example of this type of behavior by many of our students participating in large gatherings and parties. This is unacceptable and must stop. It puts the health and safety of our campus and community at risk and it jeopardizes our ability to continue with an on-campus experience and in-person classes and activities as we have seen at other universities across the country.

I remain hopeful that all of our students will act responsibly. Together, we must do everything we can to keep our campus and community healthy.
 


Coronavirus pandemic could be over within two years - WHO head

The head of the World Health Organization (WHO) says he hopes the coronavirus pandemic will be over in under two years.

Speaking in Geneva on Friday, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said the Spanish flu of 1918 took two years to overcome.

But he added that current advances in technology could enable the world to halt the virus "in a shorter time".

"Of course with more connectiveness, the virus has a better chance of spreading," he said.

"But at the same time, we have also the technology to stop it, and the knowledge to stop it," he noted, stressing the importance of "national unity, global solidarity".

The deadly flu of 1918 killed at least 50 million people.

The coronavirus has so far killed almost 800,000 people and infected 22.7 million more.

Ballpark for how long they want to push this shit now. At least two years.

Also them rookie numbers. Coronachan, you gotta up your game!
 
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The Michigan Court of Appeals has ruled 2-1 that Governor Whitmer can keep a state of emergency going as long as she wants, without legislative approval. The Republican legislature is appealing to the state supreme court.
We have a law from 1945 that gives the governor authority to declare a state of emergency, with no expiration date. We have a newer law from 1976 that places a 28 day time limit on states of emergency, and anything longer must be renewed by the legislature.
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"The Michigan Occupational Safety and Health Administration on Friday announced its first round of citations to businesses violating coronavirus safety measures."
"MIOSHA, which regulates workplace safety in Michigan, issued the citations under the “general duty” clause requiring employers to provide workplaces free from recognized hazards causing or likely to cause death or physical harm. The citation carries a fine of up to $7,000."
Mlive has published full details of the first six business to be so fined.
MIOSHA has been receiving about 1,000 calls a month, compared to their usual 200.
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Albion College is requiring returning students to install and use a contact-tracing app.
Mlive said:
Each day, the app asks students how they’re feeling and provides regular community updates about public health measures ev.eryone should practice.
Students must use the app to participate in on-campus activities, and if they refuse and do not qualify for an exception, then they’re choosing to take the semester off, Albion College President Matthew Johnson said.
Some believe the app infringes on student privacy. But Johnson said it only uses students’ names, their status on whether they’re permitted to be on campus and their location, which is only communicated to administrators if they test positive for COVID-19 or leave campus..
No confidential health information is in the app, Johnson said[.]
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The campus map should be finalized by the end of the week, Johnson said. It covers the college campus, most of downtown Albion, the off-campus equestrian center and other locations near the college, and it’s primary design is to help college administrators eliminate risks when students come back to campus, Johnson said.
Students working outside the campus map, however, must request to leave campus, Johnson said. Someone from Campus Life will reach out to them about risk factors and safety measures and, in most cases, will help develop a plan to mitigate risk for them, Johnson said.
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About 40 people protest outside Federal Education secretary Betsy DeVos' mansion, demanding that she suspend in-person classes nationwide. It is unknown if Ms. DeVos was home at the time, but protestors say they saw someone inside, so they presume she got their message.
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This is tangentially related: I live in California and right now my younger sister is doing digital learning, and she needs to pick up materials for class from the school, makes no sense, but cool, alright. So, I drove over there and there is a long-ass line for the materials even though, it's pretty much summer right now, and there's so much smoke in the air you can see it and it constantly smells like a nice barbeque. They have mockup little "social distancing" even though kids are still standing in groups with their friends, and the line wraps around the outside of the school.
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The teachers get to stay inside though.
As if coronavirus is more fucking dangerous than smoke. I fucking hate California sometimes.
 
Fines, increased fees, failed classes, expulsion. That's just the start.
When I wrote that I was thinking "how the fuck will schools be able to track which individual students were doing what at off-site events off-school hours"; then I remembered universities (not as bad as High Schools or Military) love their "collective punishment".
 




Ballpark for how long they want to push this shit now. At least two years.

Also them rookie numbers. Coronachan, you gotta up your game!
They've been saying this shit for months. If anything they're just repeating themselves constantly to get the public to just accept it. And then, God forbid they really do keep it up two years, then it will be "Oh the virus is still here, guess we have to keep up New Normal indefinitely!"

The optimist in me says enough people will flip the bird before that point though.
 
Pretty hard to sell the “college experience” when you can’t do anything fun. Oh but it still costs the same.

One of the local universities is continuing to charge students the full housing costs for the semester even though all classes go online after thanksgiving (don’t get me started in that logic.) and students won’t be allowed to live on campus. Their response? Oh we are storing your stuff so we have to charge the full amount.

Expect lawsuits a few years out from this.

WOW

They are apparently going to start punishing kids for off-campus parties under the "Student Code of Conduct". Talk about overreach. I don't know how the hell they are going enforce this.
Sure, "guidance". I simply can't wait for some more flip-flopping from the dumbasses in charge.
 
WOW

They are apparently going to start punishing kids for off-campus parties under the "Student Code of Conduct". Talk about overreach. I don't know how the hell they are going enforce this.
Anyone dumb enough to snitch on off-campus parties is just asking to get the shit kicked out of them.





Ballpark for how long they want to push this shit now. At least two years.

Also them rookie numbers. Coronachan, you gotta up your game!
No, the public and the various industries won't put up with two years of this bullshit. Don't push your luck any further.

Oh, and the key difference here is that the world didn't stand still during the Spanish Flu, so why the fuss now?
 
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Funny that you mentioned boomers, most of the boomers that I have encountered seemed to care a lot less about this shit than the younger ones, my guess is that modern technology hasn't infected their brains that much.
Suggesting or recommending is fine, but mandatory requirement is a whole other story.

I've really come to loathe the Democratic Party with a fiery passion.
 
Suggesting or recommending is fine, but mandatory requirement is a whole other story.

I've really come to loathe the Democratic Party with a fiery passion.

Pretty much, yeah. If this was all "You should wear a mask, especially if you're at risk or have a cough" + "hey Tuesday / Thursday mornings the first 2 hours of the store are meant for at risk people, so stay home if you can" then I'd be fine with it. That's reasonable.

"You MUST wear a mask FOREVER because I keep pissing myself in terror and don't understand basic science despite retweeting I Fucking Love Science memes all day long and EVERYTHING'S LOCKED DOWN FOREVER and if you DISAGREE we'll cancel you" is not.
 
Oh, and the key difference here is that the world didn't stand still during the Spanish Flu, so why the fuss now?
No, the key difference is the Chinese virus is 10-20x less lethal than the Spanish flu (0.25%-0.5% die of it) and almost exclusively kills the elderly and the severely unhealthy rather than the Spanish flu which is famous for killing young adults. Yet for some reason we treat it like it's ebolapox or airborne AIDS, almost guaranteed to kill you or cause long-term suffering for life.
 
No, the key difference is the Chinese virus is 10-20x less lethal than the Spanish flu (0.25%-0.5% die of it) and almost exclusively kills the elderly and the severely unhealthy rather than the Spanish flu which is famous for killing young adults. Yet for some reason we treat it like it's ebolapox or airborne AIDS, almost guaranteed to kill you or cause long-term suffering for life.

Welcome to the end result of American schooling. I mean, sure, these people can't understand basic math, statistics, or actual science, but they do what they're told.
 
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