2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[DeadFish]

I've spent a decade arguing against anti-vaxxers IRL. But if someone comes out with a vaccine by the end of 2020, I am not taking it, I am not voting for anyone who makes it mandatory, and I'm activating anti-jogger defenses if they come knocking to encourage the public to take it.

Maybe I'll give gen 2 or 3 a try, but I'd rather take my chances with just a stupid mask and some hand sanitzer.

Anti vaxxers are motivated by corruption and power imbalance big phar ma has over the us government

 

[Hypnopedosnake2]

If Trump makes Biden look like an idiot during the debates he can win.

The DNC won't let it come to that, because they know that Biden can not even form a 3 word sentence properly and do anything they can, to avoid the debate.

The thing is though, Would it also be a negative if Biden refused to hold a debate? Some voters would probably think that he is a coward, who can't stand his ground against Trump and has no will to fight.

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

Yep, definitely more views than the DNC.

 

[Kulee Baba]

Based Boomer Lawyers.

 

[Syaoran Li]

I'm like 95% sure Tim Pool is just a conservative dude who plays up the leftist charade for clicks and the novelty of it. Otherwise He really is a lefty exploiting the right for clicks. Either way he strikes me as being full of shit one way or another.

Nah, I think Tim Pool really is a liberal who used to be affiliated with the old center-left movement as it existed in the 1990's and 2000's.

The majority of "Y2K Liberals" have been alienated by the Woke Left and their zealotry, with the rest either going full woke to stay with the crowd or instead going the route of the Skeptics or the Alt-Right.

Tim Pool is more or less a 90's/2000's era Democrat in his views but he's backing Trump thanks to the actual Democrats going batshit insane with neoliberalism and woke-pandering.

 

[UselessIdiot]

The DNC won't let it come to that, because they know that Biden can not even form a 3 word sentence properly and do anything they can, to avoid the debate.

The thing is though, Would it also be a negative if Biden refused to hold a debate? Some voters would probably think that he is a coward, who can't stand his ground against Trump and has no will to fight.

The DNC is really trying the "basement campaign" strategy and just letting him run as a generic Democratic and make as few appearances as possible.

It could work, it could not. I think Minnesota and Wisconsin both having riots now make it harder for Biden.

 

[Girlboy69]

Nah, I think Tim Pool really is a liberal who used to be affiliated with the old center-left movement as it existed in the 1990's and 2000's.

The majority of "Y2K Liberals" have been alienated by the Woke Left and their zealotry, with the rest either going full woke to stay with the crowd or instead going the route of the Skeptics or the Alt-Right.

Tim Pool is more or less a 90's/2000's era Democrat in his views but he's backing Trump thanks to the actual Democrats going batshit insane with neoliberalism and woke-pandering.

Maybe if Biden loses, they'll actually realize they need to change shit and push out the wokeness.

I'm sure they won't but it'd be nice.

 

[Syaoran Li]

Maybe if Biden loses, they'll actually realize they need to change shit and push out the wokeness.

I'm sure they won't but it'd be nice.

I think they'll push out the wokeness if Biden loses since that's the kind of thing that's too big of a wake-up call to ignore, especially with the shit going on right now. If Biden wins, I'd suspect a lot of internal purging of the more unruly Woke Left elements and a slight toning down of the woke BS to lull the masses back to sleep.

I think that's why the DNC is still backing Kamala even after all this. She's the failsafe in the event of a more radical leftist takeover of the party should Biden win, She can pander to the woke and isn't a white male but she's also firmly an establishment corporate neoliberal who will gladly throw the Woke Left under the bus once they're no longer useful for the Democratic Party.

Unless Trump loses the popular vote but wins the election itself again, there's no way the Dems in the establishment will let the Woke Left go unabated.

 

[Reverend]

Yep, definitely more views than the DNC.
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Waiting for the spreadsheet report to show differentials between day of DNC vs RNC.

 

[Iceland Heavy]

Maybe if Biden loses, they'll actually realize they need to change shit and push out the wokeness.

I'm sure they won't but it'd be nice.

The Democrat party will be interesting to watch in a Biden defeat. The corporate neoliberal establishment for sure will try to blame their loss on the woke left and purge them but the woke left will double down and blame their loss on the Dems nominating the two most corporate neoliberals they could've (and I can't say they'd be entirely wrong) and are not going to go down without a fight. I think we're in for a realignment that a Biden victory would only delay.

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

Based Cuban on the verge of tears.

 

[Girlboy69]

I think they'll push out the wokeness if Biden loses since that's the kind of thing that's too big of a wake-up call to ignore, especially with the shit going on right now. If Biden wins, I'd suspect a lot of internal purging of the more unruly Woke Left elements and a slight toning down of the woke BS to lull the masses back to sleep.

I think that's why the DNC is still backing Kamala even after all this. She's the failsafe in the event of a more radical leftist takeover of the party should Biden win, She can pander to the woke and isn't a white male but she's also firmly an establishment corporate neoliberal who will gladly throw the Woke Left under the bus once they're no longer useful for the Democratic Party.

Unless Trump loses the popular vote but wins the election itself again, there's no way the Dems in the establishment will let the Woke Left go unabated.

I wonder what it'd take to drop the anti-gun shit?

You know what happens when you ban "assault weapons"? Explosions.

 

[Harvey Danger]

I think they'll push out the wokeness if Biden loses since that's the kind of thing that's too big of a wake-up call to ignore, especially with the shit going on right now. If Biden wins, I'd suspect a lot of internal purging of the more unruly Woke Left elements and a slight toning down of the woke BS to lull the masses back to sleep.

Nope. The narrative would be that Biden wasn't woke, because he's the crusty old liberal that the progressives hate. The progressives will not be ready to be crushed until brazenly woke candidates are crushed in the polls.

The Democrats are paying homage to the wokesters internally, they aren't making it an explicit campaign issue. Neither Biden nor Harris was up there demanding the end of capitalism, the dismantling of the nuclear family, or apologies and reparations by whites for 400 years of white supremacy. They aren't even pushing for Medicare For All and the Green New Deal, which really pisses off the loonies.

All the woke links we (correctly) make to them are implicit by party association, not explicit as a platform. You won't be able to pin a single woke ad to their losing tally. The progressives will say he wasn't progressive enough, the liberals will say he was too old, and everyone else will blame fake news, Trump, racism, etc.

Edit: there's also the other prepared excuses, like blaming the riots but not BLM, blaming Trump's "interference" with the USPS, and of course, MUH RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE. Covid will probably be blamed, somehow, counter-intuitively.

Point is, woke progressives have a lot of cover to hide behind this election.

 

[Syaoran Li]

I wonder what it'd take to drop the anti-gun shit?

You know what happens when you ban "assault weapons"? Explosions.

I honestly think these riots have more or less killed the anti-gun rhetoric from the Democrats for at least a few years minimum. Even if they're still anti-gun and want to ban the AR-15, they're not advertising it anymore or focusing on it too much. Unless some white male decides to shoot some Antifa/BLM rioters in the next three months, the gun control platform is dead in the water for the foreseeable future

Nope. The narrative would be that Biden wasn't woke, because he's the crusty old liberal that the progressives hate. The progressives will not be ready to be crushed until brazenly woke candidates are crushed in the polls.

The Democrats are paying homage to the wokesters internally, they aren't making it an explicit campaign issue. Neither Biden nor Harris was up there demanding the end of capitalism, the dismantling of the nuclear family, or apologies and reparations by whites for 400 years of white supremacy. They aren't even pushing for Medicare For All and the Green New Deal, which really pisses off the loonies.

All the woke links we (correctly) make to them are implicit by party association, not explicit as a platform. You won't be able to pin a single woke ad to their losing tally. The progressives will say he wasn't progressive enough, the liberals will say he was too old, and everyone else will blame fake news, Trump, racism, etc.

If it weren't for the riots, I think you'd be correct on this one. Three months of violent rioting in mostly Democratic strongholds is the kind of thing that makes the neoliberal establishment extremely uneasy, especially with the demands to end capitalism and bring about reparations and the Green New Deal.

I have no doubt the Woke Left will blame Biden's loss for being not progressive enough and I'd be surprised if they didn't try more power-grabs via primaries since it worked for The Squad but the neoliberals that have all the real power within the DNC will purge as much leftists as they can via gerrymandering and withdrawal of support. After they make enough examples out of the Woke Left, they'll either buy out or intimidate everyone else in the progressive sphere to get with the program.

 

[Girlboy69]

I honestly think these riots have more or less killed the anti-gun rhetoric from the Democrats for at least a few years minimum. Even if they're still anti-gun and want to ban the AR-15, they're not advertising it anymore or focusing on it too much. Unless some white male decides to shoot some Antifa/BLM rioters in the next three months, the gun control platform is dead in the water for the foreseeable future

I could still see Biden beating that drum. I suppose we'll know if he actually wins and puts Beto in charge of anything.

I wonder what the chances are "the squad" gets dismantled this time.

 

[Syaoran Li]

I could still see Biden beating that drum. I suppose we'll know if he actually wins and puts Beto in charge of anything.

I wonder what the chances are "the squad" gets dismantled this time.

If Trump wins? The DNC will make an example out of them, AOC and Ilhan Omar especially, and will gerrymander them out of office and air as much of their dirty laundry as possible.

If Biden wins, I think AOC will be made an example of and gerrymandered out of office given the enmity between her and Nancy Pelosi and the stunt she pulled at the Democratic National Convention this year. She's an embarrassment for the Democratic Party and if she's still in office by 2023, it will be a miracle.

In a Biden/Kamala presidency, I could see the DNC purging AOC and maybe Ilhan Omar if she gets too uppity although they're more likely to just sideline her and freeze her out of any real Congressional projects. The remainder of The Squad will likely stay untouched but kept on a tight leash by the DNC for the remainder of their time in office.

 

[Girlboy69]

Refresh my memory, what did AOC do at the DNC? I remember seeing something about it but didn't get to listen because I was sick that night.

 

[Meat Target]

Refresh my memory, what did AOC do at the DNC? I remember seeing something about it but didn't get to listen because I was sick that night.

Nominated Bernie and didn't even mention Joe.

 

[Girlboy69]

Nominated Bernie and didn't even mention Joe.

LOL Did NY even go to Bernie? I thought Vermont nominated him in 2016 but it was only because he won it before he was out.

EDIT: No, it didn't lol

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

That's a surprising amount of cash coming out of the West Coast for Trump, I guess people are way more fed up these days than it seems.

I'm more surprised by the amount of money Trump has raised in Teton County, WY. For years it was the place for 'made enough money' tech industry transplants. Not what I would consider fertile ground for Trump fundraising.