Netflix's "Cuties" - The Preteen Sexual Objectification Equivalent of "Funny Games"

[OvercookedBacon]

We're almost to 1.3 million dislikes now.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

Yeah, the reaction to this is very SJW-ish.
Nobody saw the actual thing but they already know what's it about and it's evil and it needs to be censored.
Might be what people think it is but let's wait until it actually comes out.
For all we know, the marketing is purposefully designed to piss people off and generate buzz and the actual product is heavily critical of sexualization of kids.

The problem though is that this is France, who have literally no issues trying to sexualize kids in cartoons.

 

[Idiotron]

The problem though is that this is France, who have literally no issues trying to sexualize kids in cartoons.

France has 65 million citizens, some will be weirdos and some of those weirdos will become filmmakers.
US had directors like John Waters but nobody thinks of that when US cinema is mentioned.
It also depends on the context of sexualization. I highly doubt that Cuties will have blatant "sex for the sake of sex" type of presentation like a Michael Bay movie.

Based on the interview with the director that I've read, this is going to be quite nuanced, a lot more than people think.
At this point, I think that Netflix is at fault for the horrible marketing campaign.
For example, this is the original poster, before the movie was sold to Netflix:

Kind of sends a different message than the current one, doesn't it?

Like I've said, I'll wait for the thing to come out before roasting it.

 

[From The Uncanny Valley]

France has 65 million citizens, some will be weirdos and some of those weirdos will become filmmakers.
US had directors like John Waters but nobody thinks of that when US cinema is mentioned.
It also depends on the context of sexualization. I highly doubt that Cuties will have blatant "sex for the sake of sex" type of presentation like a Michael Bay movie.

Based on the interview with the director that I've read, this is going to be quite nuanced, a lot more than people think.
At this point, I think that Netflix is at fault for the horrible marketing campaign.
For example, this is the original poster, before the movie was sold to Netflix:
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Kind of sends a different message than the current one, doesn't it?

Like I've said, I'll wait for the thing to come out before roasting it.

To be honest, it still gives me a creepy vibe

 

[Grandpa Simpson]

Where did you find a twerking video with a dude dead center?

The Australian censorship board was would censor porn with young-appearing girls at one point. No idea if they still do or not.

Didn't lisa simpson porn get someone jailed in Australia at one point?

Yes, here as well.

https://news.avclub.com/man-faces-10-years-in-prison-for-downloading-simpsons-p-1798222065

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

Yes, here as well.

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https://news.avclub.com/man-faces-10-years-in-prison-for-downloading-simpsons-p-1798222065

Bart, get out! I'm piss!

 

[AnOminous]

Yes, here as well.

That article isn't quite correct. He had pled guilty, so first off, it isn't a precedent anyway. Second, he had lots of actual child pornography.

It's uncertain whether he would have been prosecuted if not for the actual CP.

https://www.idahopress.com/news/former-teacher-sentenced-in-child-pornography-case/article_64e5a164-2341-11e0-b8ff-001cc4c03286.html

When Homeland Security agents in Boise searched Kutzner's computer, they discovered more than 500 pornographic image files of unknown teenaged females. Because the identity of young women depicted was not known, investigators were unable to prove they were under 18 years of age. Investigators also found more than 8,000 image files of child erotica, many involving prepubescent minors. Child erotica are non-nude or semi-nude photographs and videos of children in sexually suggestive poses that are not themselves images of child pornography, but still fuel the sexual fantasies of pedophiles and others who have developed a sexual interest in minors.

The crime Kutzner pleaded guilty to involved 70 animated, cartoon pornographic images of minors, including a toddler, engaged in graphic sex acts with adults and animals.

According to court documents, Kutzner had been downloading, receiving and viewing sexually explicit images of actual children for at least eight years. He avoided being charged with a child pornography offense because he had used wiping programs to delete the child pornography images from his computer prior to execution of the search warrant.

So while he pled guilty to the count involving animated stuff, they had him on other things. Somehow, they knew he had actual child pornography at one point that he had destroyed, either because he admitted it or otherwise. It would have been difficult to prove. In any event, pleading to it means it isn't a precedent.

 

[Grandpa Simpson]

So while he pled guilty to the count involving animated stuff, they had him on other things. Somehow, they knew he had actual child pornography at one point that he had destroyed, either because he admitted it or otherwise. It would have been difficult to prove. In any event, pleading to it means it isn't a precedent.

I wonder what tipped this guy off that someone was about to search his computer? That seems odd that this guy right before the warrant goes out, he happens to get hold of some wiping program and delete everything except for the cartoons.

 

[AnOminous]

I wonder what tipped this guy off that someone was about to search his computer? That seems odd that this guy right before the warrant goes out, he happens to get hold of some wiping program and delete everything except for the cartoons.

He didn't delete the "legal" erotica, although that too can be found not to be legal depending on the context. For instance, if you have a DVD of The Blue Lagoon you're probably okay. If you have printouts of stills from it covered in your semen, possibly not.

 

[TheProdigalStunna]

France has 65 million citizens, some will be weirdos and some of those weirdos will become filmmakers.
US had directors like John Waters but nobody thinks of that when US cinema is mentioned.

To be fair, John Waters' movies always used consenting adults. Well, maybe not that chicken (and even he said he regretted that scene.)

I do agree with the rest of your post though.

 

[Secret Asshole]

He didn't delete the "legal" erotica, although that too can be found not to be legal depending on the context. For instance, if you have a DVD of The Blue Lagoon you're probably okay. If you have printouts of stills from it covered in your semen, possibly not.

Yeah. There's a case where a guy was taking adult porn stars, clipping out pictures of children's heads, and pasting them on the adult bodies. He was arrested, charged and convicted with child porn. I'm not talking about photoshop. I'm talking about physically doing it.

 

[Dojima's Dragon]

In Russia they certainly are, and rather in the open. I imagine they operate somewhat more under the radar in more westernized countries nowadays, but kids you see in commercials and movies usually start out on some kind of child model track.

I am suprised no one talks about picsmo.ru a Russian website that depending on the time of day or night could have photos OF NAKED FUCKING KIDS

 

[cecograph]

Yeah. There's a case where a guy was taking adult porn stars, clipping out pictures of children's heads, and pasting them on the adult bodies. He was arrested, charged and convicted with child porn. I'm not talking about photoshop. I'm talking about physically doing it.

In the UK, I learned they are called pseudo-photographs

(can't find a youtube version of this which isn't ruined trying to get round DMCA)

 

[Aib Ld]

Being a Frenchie who's disgusted over the movie, holy fuck I'm so sorry

 

[Cactuar King]

Being a Frenchie who's disgusted over the movie, holy fuck I'm so sorry

You're one of the good ones.

 

[Secret Asshole]

In the UK, I learned they are called pseudo-photographs

(can't find a youtube version of this which isn't ruined trying to get round DMCA)

Didn't even know there was a name for them

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

Yeah. There's a case where a guy was taking adult porn stars, clipping out pictures of children's heads, and pasting them on the adult bodies. He was arrested, charged and convicted with child porn. I'm not talking about photoshop. I'm talking about physically doing it.

... would it be weird if I said this baffles me more than just straight up pedophilia? Like at least that I can understand, innocence, corruption, no secondary sex characteristics, but... putting a child's head onto an adult body (usually a very developed adult body), what?

 

[Secret Asshole]

... would it be weird if I said this baffles me more than just straight up pedophilia? Like at least that I can understand, innocence, corruption, no secondary sex characteristics, but... putting a child's head onto an adult body (usually a very developed adult body), what?

Its because they want children and pretend that's a child. Not to mention if its children they know it is risky.

That's why when you call someone a pedophile, be careful about it. These are the lengths they will go. That's why I say someone who is a pedophile will always seek out child pornography. No matter how fucked they go about it. And they probably used small bodied or breasted porn stars for it. Don't ask me. Loli is easier, but you can clearly see they want children, no matter the length they do to get it. Its very, very fucked. I mean, that's why you have pedos going to playgrounds and just watching and jerking off. Because they interpret normal children playing as sexual. That's how deep this runs. No amount of drawings are going to instigate that sort of behavior.

 

[makeup]

Yeah, the reaction to this is very SJW-ish.
Nobody saw the actual thing but they already know what's it about and it's evil and it needs to be censored.
Might be what people think it is but let's wait until it actually comes out.
For all we know, the marketing is purposefully designed to piss people off and generate buzz and the actual product is heavily critical of sexualization of kids.

For my new movie, I released a trailer of a 10-year-old boy spreading his ass open for the world to see -- but don't worry, once you pay for the full film I actually come on-screen and start telling you about how pedophilia is bad. The boy still gets fucked in the ass though. I just make sure to tell you how wrong it is while it happens.

 

[Neil]

I fucking hate people bringing up this defense, man.


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So a film comments on the hyper-sexualization of preadolescent girls...by hyper-sexualizing preadolescent girls. Real classy.

It's amazing home many black women are defending this shit.

"Guys this snuff film I watched was totally just a big message showing the horrors of murder and violence!"
"Guys, Luka Mignotta filmed himself killing real animals just to show a message about how terrible animal abuse is!

... would it be weird if I said this baffles me more than just straight up pedophilia? Like at least that I can understand, innocence, corruption, no secondary sex characteristics, but... putting a child's head onto an adult body (usually a very developed adult body), what?

That guy sounds like he was just one lonely day away from going full Otaku-Killer, but worse. Fucker was probably trying to rationalize his actions in his head before he did it.