Pedophiles of Sluthate AND Lookism (MRZ, Brian Peppers and many more!)

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What exactly is this "mental health community" you're talking about? I don't think anyone finds you not mentally ill.


Fanatasizing about raping someone is extremely sick, and means you have a desire to do so, even if you're not planning to. Most people don't fanatasize about that, or even think about it.

Desire can be separated into cognitive and affective. Cognitive is your higher mental functions, the human intelligible thoughts that you have to yourself. Affective is a lower order mental function, it's the automatic emotion you feel and the cravings you have etc. Affectively I have rape instinct, as is manifest by the fact that rape fantasies get me the most aroused, and I have typically rarely manifest urges to rape as well, etc. But cognitively, I haven't the desire to rape, I might have the feeling that rape would feel good, and I might have a strong arousal response to thoughts of it, but in my mind I don't say to myself "I should rape people" or "I'm going to rape someone" or anything like that, I think to myself "I need to make sure not to rape people because it is really bad and I don't want to do anything really bad, and really I wish I hadn't rape instinct, but I don't really feel bad about it, and it's really mostly just an inconvenience to me and not something that will negatively affect other people".

Rape is actually a pretty common male fantasy, it's probably more popular in females though, or maybe it is just more socially acceptable for females to admit to it. It's not indicative of a mental illness to have rape instinct, I actually for a long time did think I had some mental illness (but that it wouldn't really matter because I wouldn't act on it), but then I did a lot of research and realized I actually haven't anything considered a mental illness, due to the evolutionary advantageous nature of having rape instinct (of course I don't make an appeal to nature here though), it's actually pretty normal for males to have rape instinct, at least normal enough that it isn't a mental illness anyway or abnormal. I think people should stop lying about having rape instinct cuz there isn't anything wrong with having it just it is wrong to act on it is all.
 
Desire can be separated into cognitive and affective. Cognitive is your higher mental functions, the human intelligible thoughts that you have to yourself. Affective is a lower order mental function, it's the automatic emotion you feel and the cravings you have etc. Affectively I have rape instinct, as is manifest by the fact that rape fantasies get me the most aroused, and I have typically rarely manifest urges to rape as well, etc. But cognitively, I haven't the desire to rape, I might have the feeling that rape would feel good, and I might have a strong arousal response to thoughts of it, but in my mind I don't say to myself "I should rape people" or "I'm going to rape someone" or anything like that, I think to myself "I need to make sure not to rape people because it is really bad and I don't want to do anything really bad, and really I wish I hadn't rape instinct, but I don't really feel bad about it, and it's really mostly just an inconvenience to me and not something that will negatively affect other people".

Rape is actually a pretty common male fantasy, it's probably more popular in females though, or maybe it is just more socially acceptable for females to admit to it. It's not indicative of a mental illness to have rape instinct, I actually for a long time did think I had some mental illness (but that it wouldn't really matter because I wouldn't act on it), but then I did a lot of research and realized I actually haven't anything considered a mental illness, due to the evolutionary advantageous nature of having rape instinct (of course I don't make an appeal to nature here though), it's actually pretty normal for males to have rape instinct, at least normal enough that it isn't a mental illness anyway or abnormal. I think people should stop lying about having rape instinct cuz there isn't anything wrong with having it just it is wrong to act on it is all.

What's your opinion on Maslow's hierarchy of needs?
 
So you're defending your child pornography addiction by comparing it to Nazis? And this is supposed to be a good comparison that is going to convince anyone?

That is some wack ass shit man.

It's actually a great analogy. In both cases information that can be beneficial to humanity was produced by doing things that were detrimental to humanity (and without doubt very bad things to do). The question then is should the information be destroyed because of its origin, or should it be preserved because of its usefulness? I argue that such information should be preserved because of its usefulness, because even if we destroy it it will not undo that bad things that already happened to create it.
 
Desire can be separated into cognitive and affective. Cognitive is your higher mental functions, the human intelligible thoughts that you have to yourself. Affective is a lower order mental function, it's the automatic emotion you feel and the cravings you have etc. Affectively I have rape instinct, as is manifest by the fact that rape fantasies get me the most aroused, and I have typically rarely manifest urges to rape as well, etc. But cognitively, I haven't the desire to rape, I might have the feeling that rape would feel good, and I might have a strong arousal response to thoughts of it, but in my mind I don't say to myself "I should rape people" or "I'm going to rape someone" or anything like that, I think to myself "I need to make sure not to rape people because it is really bad and I don't want to do anything really bad, and really I wish I hadn't rape instinct, but I don't really feel bad about it, and it's really mostly just an inconvenience to me and not something that will negatively affect other people".

Rape is actually a pretty common male fantasy, it's probably more popular in females though, or maybe it is just more socially acceptable for females to admit to it. It's not indicative of a mental illness to have rape instinct, I actually for a long time did think I had some mental illness (but that it wouldn't really matter because I wouldn't act on it), but then I did a lot of research and realized I actually haven't anything considered a mental illness, due to the evolutionary advantageous nature of having rape instinct (of course I don't make an appeal to nature here though), it's actually pretty normal for males to have rape instinct, at least normal enough that it isn't a mental illness anyway or abnormal. I think people should stop lying about having rape instinct cuz there isn't anything wrong with having it just it is wrong to act on it is all.
None of this shit matters. If you have fantasies about raping someone (it doesn't matter if "you don't have a desire to do it"- don't give me that bullshit), you need help. Fantasies about rape, at least the extensive ones you happily admit to and describe, will often lead to the actual thing. But I doubt you care.
 
Look, don't you see how wrong this looks too everyone else? you cant lack that much self awareness

I realize that it is socially unacceptable, but that is largely just because a lot of people decided to lie about it instead of just realize it is fine as long as you don't act on it, they are ashamed of their instinct and worried to reveal themselves probably, but it's actually pretty common and nothing to be ashamed about as long as you don't act on it. People are really worried about looking like they are normal and moral, but it creates kind of a false normal that everyone kind of compulsively contributes to and then everyone kind of starts to believe in the normal created by the group but the reality is many individual members of the group are lying and pretending... it's like a matrix world to my perception and I hate it really.

Maybe females don't realize how common rape instinct is in males, though feminists (whom I actually kind of hate tbh, but I think they are right about this) seem to realize that it is very common. Also, why would they be surprised, I'm sure many of the females on this forum have fantasized about being raped, so why would you think it is so abnormal for males to fantasize about raping? Do you actually really want to be raped? If not then why would you assume that males who fantasize about raping really want to rape you?

Mrz's stances on pedophilia and rape in a nutshell:

If it feels good, do it. Who gives a shit about the ramifications it could have to the victims?

This is a complete strawman fallacy. I think rape is bad and I think that guys should try as hard as they can never to rape even if they have instinct to rape. I also think it would probably actually lead to less people being raped if more males acknowledged they have instinct to rape.
 
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I realize that it is socially unacceptable, but that is largely just because a lot of people decided to lie about it instead of just realize it is fine as long as you don't act on it, they are ashamed of their instinct and worried to reveal themselves probably, but it's actually pretty common and nothing to be ashamed about as long as you don't act on it. People are really worried about looking like they are normal and moral, but it creates kind of a false normal that everyone kind of compulsively contributes to and then everyone kind of starts to believe in the normal created by the group but the reality is many individual members of the group are lying and pretending... it's like a matrix world to my perception and I hate it really.

Maybe females don't realize how common rape instinct is in males, though feminists (whom I actually kind of hate tbh, but I think they are right about this) seem to realize that it is very common. Also, why would they be surprised, I'm sure many of the females on this forum have fantasized about being raped, so why would you think it is so abnormal for males to fantasize about raping? Do you actually really want to be raped? If not then why would you assume that males who fantasize about raping really want to rape you?
Even if this shit was "socially acceptable", I'm pretty sure most females wouldn't want to be with a guy that has fantasies about raping them, or other women.
 
This is a complete strawman fallacy. I think rape is bad and I think that guys should try as hard as they can never to rape even if they have instinct to rape. I also think it would probably actually lead to less people being raped if more males acknowledged they have instinct to rape.
Well okay, but I'm still getting mixed messages whenever you go into graphic detail about your attraction to young teens. I just get this feeling that you really really want to fuck as many as you can and constantly think about it all the time.
 
It isn't "illegal in the vast majority of countries". It's legal to have sex with 14 or younger in Uruguay, Spain, Italy, Japan, Portugal. and Germany, just off the top of my head. In most of South America the age of consent is 14. Actually the age of consent was 14 in Canada until like 2006 when pressure from the USA finally forced them to increase it. You are suffering from a submersion bias, falsely extrapolating the values of the society around you to the entire world. I realize this is a really common tendency in humans, but seriously try to look past your enculturation and actually think for yourself.
First off, it is not a common tendency for adults to be attracted to children. Second, age of consent being 14 in those countries is ultimately an arbitrary number so that pedophiles can be prosecuted if they decided to engage in sexual acts with children. I can't dispute the law in those countries even if I personally disagree with them.
Also it is entirely normal to have sexual attraction to JBs, there is no real debate about this. It was rejected as a mental illness by both the APA and the in the ICD, it has an evolutionary psychology theory supporting its normalcy, it's been demonstrated as present in the majority of males via phallometric penile response research
Citation needed.
and it was actually legal and socially acceptable in virtually the entire world for the entirety of human existence save the past ~120 years.
That doesn't take into account the vast changes in technology in the world. Humans have much longer life spans than they did back then. A few hundred years ago you may have been lucky to live to reach anywhere between thirty and fifty, and the science relating to families and fertility was nowhere near as advanced as today, so in that case the age of consent was considered lower to make up for this. Because of our advancement as a species this is no longer necessary.
 
First off, it is not a common tendency for adults to be attracted to children. Second, age of consent being 14 in those countries is ultimately an arbitrary number so that pedophiles can be prosecuted if they decided to engage in sexual acts with children. I can't dispute the law in those countries even if I personally disagree with them.

Citation needed.

That doesn't take into account the vast changes in technology in the world. Humans have much longer life spans than they did back then. A few hundred years ago you may have been lucky to live to reach anywhere between thirty and fifty, and the science relating to families and fertility was nowhere near as advanced as today, so in that case the age of consent was considered lower to make up for this. Because of our advancement as a species this is no longer necessary.
Another thing that pedophiles seem to not understand is that other countries that allow teenagers to have sex at younger ages have restrictions on what ages are acceptable.

Japan for instance has the age minimum of 14, but they are only allowed to have sexual relations with people (with parents consent) no older than 17. Which by the way is still frowned upon heavily by society.
It is not some free pass for 30-40 year old creeps to travel to other countries to hang around their schoolyards like the degenerates they are. You will be prosecuted.
 
Even if this shit was "socially acceptable", I'm pretty sure most females wouldn't want to be with a guy that has fantasies about raping them, or other women.

Why not? A lot of females fantasize about being raped. I fantasize about raping females, so what. Would you prefer me to fantasize that I'm a female fantasizing about being raped by me ;)?

In all seriousness though you should probably worry more about the guys who fantasize about raping females and don't tell anyone about it (though I'm sure a great many of them are perfectly harmless as well, besides for once many years ago when someone else mentioned fantasizing about rape to me, I never told anyone I fantasize about rape till like a year ago when I joined sluthate lol). Seriously I'm behind Tor and obviously have at least some level of confidence in my anonymity, why would I bother to conceal a true cognitive intention or desire of raping people, when it's already socially unacceptable as fuck to have even the affective desire to, and when I also say I like JBs and even looked at JB porn lol.

What about slavery? That used to be socially acceptable too for hundreds and hundreds of years. That never made it necessarily morally just in and of itself.

I wasn't making a moral appeal to history, I was using history to reveal the true nature of humans. Evolution has not in the past 12 decades bred out of us a desire that we know to have existed for the entirety of prior human existence.

Yes you are. It is not normal to want to fuck 11 year olds.

I'm not attracted to most 11 year olds. Girls have to be 14 before there is near certainty that I'd be attracted to them if I ever would be, but exceptions of exponentially increasing rarity exist down to about 11. I wouldn't fuck an 11 year old though, it's okay to have attractions that you can't actually morally act on you know, and I think in the large majority of cases it would be immoral to have sexual interaction with an 11 year old. I'm really quite fine with age of consent being 14 as far as my personal desire goes, I'm just not going to deny that I've had attraction to girls younger than that, and also I think it would be good to evaluate cases with younger girls on the merit of the case as is done in Uruguay.

It is indeed normal (to the extent that it isn't indicative of being mentally ill) to have sexual attraction to pubescent 11 year olds (and indeed is quite common to have sexual attraction to pubescents older than that but still below 16), no matter how much you deny it based on your intuition, personal opinions, and emotional desires, the reality is I've read the research and I know the actual scientific truth.

Well okay, but I'm still getting mixed messages whenever you go into graphic detail about your attraction to young teens. I just get this feeling that you really really want to fuck as many as you can and constantly think about it all the time.

I would like to fuck JBs even below 16, as long as I can fuck 14+ I don't really care, but I'm attracted to younger than that and would fuck younger than that if I could, but I wouldn't fuck 11 year olds, and probably not 12 either.

First off, it is not a common tendency for adults to be attracted to children. Second, age of consent being 14 in those countries is ultimately an arbitrary number so that pedophiles can be prosecuted if they decided to engage in sexual acts with children. I can't dispute the law in those countries even if I personally disagree with them.

The majority of adult males have sexual arousal to JBs, it is beyond a doubt a common tendency, to the point that the majority do.

Citation needed.

I will come back later with citations I need to go for a while.

That doesn't take into account the vast changes in technology in the world. Humans have much longer life spans than they did back then. A few hundred years ago you may have been lucky to live to reach anywhere between thirty and fifty, and the science relating to families and fertility was nowhere near as advanced as today, so in that case the age of consent was considered lower to make up for this. Because of our advancement as a species this is no longer necessary.

This is actually largely false, life expectancy rising is largely (though not entirely) due to massive decreases in infant mortality rather than increases in human life span.


Another thing that pedophiles seem to not understand is that other countries that allow teenagers to have sex at younger ages have restrictions on what ages are acceptable.

Japan for instance has the age minimum of 14, but they are only allowed to have sexual relations with people (with parents consent) no older than 17. Which by the way is still frowned upon heavily by society.
It is not some free pass for 30-40 year old creeps to travel to other countries to hang around their schoolyards like the degenerates they are. You will be prosecuted.

This is false. First of all the age of consent in Japan is 13, but only in Tokyo. There are no age restrictions. I really hate when people falsely claim that these other countries really have laws like their own country does, it's all just a big misunderstanding, because it isn't a big misunderstanding, they really just have lower ages of consent than your country does. There is no age limit in Germany to having sex with 14 year olds being legal, there are some restrictions on older people, but it is never universally illegal to have sex with 14 year olds in Germany regardless of your age. The same is true in most of the other countries with low ages of consent, close in age exceptions are only common in the anglosphere, other countries don't need them because their ages of consent are already low enough. Please stop lying about other countries, it really bothers me when this happens because I know that you don't know what you're talking about, but for some reason you talk as if you are an authority on the subject, either you talk out of your asshole or you spread propaganda for some reason.
 
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As I previously mentioned, I'm not a pedophile because I lack significant attraction to prepubescents. I'm a non-exlusive hebephile and a non-exclusive ephebophile. Even true hebephilia (exclusive) was explicitly rejected as a mental illness by the APA, and it is not included in the DSM. It is also not considered a mental illness in the ICD to be attracted to pubescents at least ~2 years into puberty, so according to the two biggest mental illness classification systems in the world I'm not mentally ill for my chronophilia.

Here is a citation that the APA rejected hebephilia as a mental illness, it also mentions that they rejected biastophilia which is the state of being aroused by rape.

forensicpsychologist.blogspot.com/2012/12/apa-rejects-hebephilia-last-of-three.html



The majority consensus of the mental health community is that I'm actually not mentally ill. Additionally, I would like to point out that rape is one of the most popular female fantasies. This is likely because affectively they want to be raped because evolutionarily it can be advantageous to be raped (especially by a high quality male), seeing as the offspring produced would have genetic make up predisposed to raping, which would assist the mother in wide dispersion of her genetics. Despite the fact that females have this affective desire to rape, and despite the fact that because of it they frequently fantasize about being raped, we would never say that cognitively they have the actual desire to be raped, right? It's the same way with me. Affectively I have rape instinct, but cognitively I don't have the actual desire to rape, to the same extent that cognitively females don't have the actual desire to be raped. I realize that rape is a bad thing, and I haven't any intention of ever raping anyone or sexually abusing anyone, I just have the instinct to do so because it is evolutionarily advantageous and Darwinian evolution selects for evolutionarily advantageous traits over morally benevolent traits. Thankfully though humans have a large amount of cognitive capacity, and we are not slaves to our primitive instincts.
You know this is bullshit right? They have done probability studies showing that "rape is an evolutionary advantage" is nonsense perpetuated by dumbasses who think they're smart, like you.
 
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