2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Salubrious]

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[RockPaper]

I know they think the masks make them look adult and responsible, but I guarantee you a lot of people respond to it negatively.

 

[heyitsmike]

That's definitely part of it. The Clintons and Obamas left table scraps for everyone else. No bench.

I'm going to disagree with this. If not for Slick Willie and Obama, they would have been even worse off. They got lucky that twice that they could pull rabbits out of their hats. If the Dems had a deep bench, why could they field no one better than Dukakis in '88, Gore in '00, Kerry in '04, Clinton in '16 and Biden in '20?

The Dems' last truly good pure politician was LBJ, and they ran him off. They were eating themselves even back in the sixties.

 

[jje100010001]

I know they think the masks make them look adult and responsible, but I guarantee you a lot of people respond to it negatively.

Seeing the whole human face triggers emotional connections at a basal level.

 

[CrippleThreat]

I'm going to disagree with this. If not for Slick Willie and Obama, they would have been even worse off. They got lucky that twice that they could pull rabbits out of their hats. If the Dems had a deep bench, why could they field no one better than Dukakis in '88, Gore in '00, Kerry in '04, Clinton in '16 and Biden in '20?

The Dems' last truly good pure politician was LBJ, and they ran him off. They were eating themselves even back in the sixties.

Fucking Jimmy. Good enough to beat ineffectual Ford (really shouldn't have pardoned Nixon so soon), but just as much of an ineffectual president to get annihilated by Reagan.

Let's look further back: Egghead Stevenson (tbh, the guy really didn't want to), Humphrey, McGovern, Mondale. What the fuck were they thinking? How do you blow a 20 year lead in White House presidencies?

 

[RockPaper]

I'm going to disagree with this. If not for Slick Willie and Obama, they would have been even worse off. They got lucky that twice that they could pull rabbits out of their hats. If the Dems had a deep bench, why could they field no one better than Dukakis in '88, Gore in '00, Kerry in '04, Clinton in '16 and Biden in '20?

Well, yes and no. The Dems were in a bad position for several election cycles, losing 5 out of 6. The American people simply didn't trust them with the executive no matter who the candidate was, because they either remembered 1968 and/or Carter being a monumental fuck-up after that. They were too Left, too out-of-step, whatever. The supposed star of the Party, Mario Cuomo, never chose to run.

When I refer to the Clintons and Obama, I mean first the Clintons were fundraising juggernauts who completely dominated the Party (because yes, Bill did know what to do and say to win with all the DLC shit he was involved with). Then they put a lot of energy into getting her elected. Obama beat her because she was so damned unlikable, but he never gave a shit about down-ballot candidates. Bill would at least campaign for them, Obama couldn't be bothered.

Now that Obama is gone permanently and they now know Hillary winning is a pipe dream, there's just a power vacuum there. The Clintons were like a Colossus of Rhodes astride the Party. There's no obvious successor because they didn't care about that. Yeah, Gore was technically his successor and almost won, but Hillary was the successor they eventually wanted ("Eight years for him, eight for her. that's the plan.") But now she's toast. By comparison, when Reagan left, there was an obvious Veep to nominate who at least promised "Reagan's third term" and it helped he wasn't demented and decrepit like Biden is.

I do agree the Dems don't have a wide range of amazing statesmen the last few decades. Gore and Kerry weren't world-beaters or anything, but both were very close to winning. They definitely look worse in hindsight because they lost.

 

[tehpope]

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This is very similar to what I saw on Youtube today.

Maybe Biden should have said something to Barry when all his fundraising efforts went into his coffers rather than the DNC. The Chad Trump, who gives a fuck about his own party vs. the Virgin Biden, who couldn't convince Black Jesus to share his wealth.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Here are some convention graphs.

 

[Ledian]

If there's one thing I remember about polls it's how easily they can be manipulated without even fudging the numbers and that's why I don't trust them. Yes Prime Minister covered this pretty succinctly.

 

[Salubrious]

If there's one thing I remember about polls it's how easily they can be manipulated without even fudging the numbers and that's why I don't trust them. Yes Prime Minister covered this pretty succinctly.

Yeah, but that guy has always been a communist.

 

[BeboRefugee]

The DNC is absolutely dead set on pushing her into the spotlight at every conceivable opportunity and I have no idea why. She is horrendously unlikable, tried to sue her way into power after losing her election by decisive margins, and absolutely sweats smug condescension. Despite all that, someone with seriously clout apparently thinks she's the next Obama and is doing everything possible to prop her up. Remember that bizarre op-ed with the runway photo?

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I like to think whatever faction is simping for Abrams quietly hopes Joe/Kamala get destroyed in November. We all know her flaws, but a Democratic defeat would be a pretty good springboard for her to run in 2024--since with Kamala as a verified failure, she's one of the only black womyn left with a national profile. Parachute her into a safe congressional race in 2022, and then announce her candidacy for president the following year. If upward trajectory wasn't the goal, then I don't get why the leadership haven't quietly told her to fuck off yet.

 

[Aidan]

The DNC is absolutely dead set on pushing her into the spotlight at every conceivable opportunity and I have no idea why. She is horrendously unlikable, tried to sue her way into power after losing her election by decisive margins, and absolutely sweats smug condescension. Despite all that, someone with seriously clout apparently thinks she's the next Obama and is doing everything possible to prop her up. Remember that bizarre op-ed with the runway photo?

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You can see the fat billowing over her shoe in this powerful image that looks like it's from the 90s.

 

[MrJokerRager]

You also can't forget about the "Return to Normalcy" promise. I've taken an American Exceptionalism approach lately, and it's fascinating; remembering that quote just made something click: Biden is a modern day Warren G. Harding, which is terrifying given both of their track records. God only knows if his cabinet would be just as corrupt as Harding's. And we all know Biden will be outsed from presidency should it happen, like Harding with his death. If that's the case, Kamala will never in this lifetime be as great as Calvin Coolidge.

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Biden should take a page from Harding with this quote:

I already mentioned before how Trump shares a lot of parallels with Lincoln but also like to state he does with Calvin Coolidge.

Calvin Coolidge had to deal with the KKK as he was the last Republican to run on a civil rights plank. And also was a conservatives in the sense of cutting down on federal government and desegregated the civil service that Woodrow Wilson carried out as well as returning America to isolationism.

This is 1860 and 1924 combined for Trump.

 

[heyitsmike]

Parachute her into a safe congressional race in 2022, and then announce her candidacy for president the following year.

The Georgia gubernatorial election is in 2022. The whole premise behind her appeal is that she is a black woman that can win a statewide race in Georgia. Running for a safe House seat is basically an admission that she can't. So if she can't, there's no reason for her candidacy in the first place.

 

[XYZpdq]

The DNC is absolutely dead set on pushing her into the spotlight at every conceivable opportunity and I have no idea why. She is horrendously unlikable, tried to sue her way into power after losing her election by decisive margins, and absolutely sweats smug condescension. Despite all that, someone with seriously clout apparently thinks she's the next Obama and is doing everything possible to prop her up. Remember that bizarre op-ed with the runway photo?

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between this and the guy from the DNC it makes me wonder if there was some focus group that led the dems to some flawed logic like "people mostly like the Blackula movies, so therefor we need to get awkwardly vampire looking crap on black people and then we win"

 

[MrJokerRager]

I'm going to disagree with this. If not for Slick Willie and Obama, they would have been even worse off. They got lucky that twice that they could pull rabbits out of their hats. If the Dems had a deep bench, why could they field no one better than Dukakis in '88, Gore in '00, Kerry in '04, Clinton in '16 and Biden in '20?

The Dems' last truly good pure politician was LBJ, and they ran him off. They were eating themselves even back in the sixties.

I remember Biden was running in 1988 but had to drop out because of plagiarism. And Dukakis was leading in the polls till the Tank Commado shit, Willie Horton Ad and cucked out on a question about his wife being murdered and the death penalty.

Gore could have beaten Bush if I guess if Clinton handled the whole situation with that Cuban kid and sending him back to Castro better. Florida was a game of inches and could have gone either way. Bush did not win in a landslide as it came down to one state.

I didn't remember 2004 much other than the "Don't Taze Me Bro" meme and some something about skull and bones.

Clinton was the better choice compared to Trump at the time due to have more experience in government and politics. However 2016 was a rigged election against Bernie so we will never know if in a fair contest, Bernie would have beaten Clinton and taken on Trump.

Bernie had the most enthusiasm and was fucked by Phocahontas as well as other "contenders" dropping out to help Biden win. And Kamala was the picked frontrunner but got raped by Tulsi. 2020 and 2016 have been fuckups when the DNC tries to interfere.

1976 Jimmy Carter is impressive how we won though, basically the last democrat to take the Solid South to victory despite Ford had the whole western half of the country to himself.

 

[heyitsmike]

I can't get over how oblivious and incompetent our political class is, even when stared in the face with blatantly obviously answers.

It's no wonder we were subjected to a generation of the most awful politicians and strategists.

 

[GuntPunt]

I can't get over how oblivious and incompetent our political class is, even when stared in the face with blatantly obviously answers.

It's no wonder we were subjected to a generation of the most awful politicians and strategists.
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Theres a reason my internet fwend Peoples Pundit calls Nate "Slimer." He is not and will never be a pollster. He is part of the MSM.

 

[Iceland Heavy]

I remember Biden was running in 1988 but had to drop out because of plagiarism. And Dukakis was leading in the polls till the Tank Commado shit, Willie Horton Ad and cucked out on a question about his wife being murdered and the death penalty.

Gore could have beaten Bush if I guess if Clinton handled the whole situation with that Cuban kid and sending him back to Castro better. Florida was a game of inches and could have gone either way. Bush did not win in a landslide as it came down to one state.

I didn't remember 2004 much other than the "Don't Taze Me Bro" meme and some something about skull and bones.

Clinton was the better choice compared to Trump at the time due to have more experience in government and politics. However 2016 was a rigged election against Bernie so we will never know if in a fair contest, Bernie would have beaten Clinton and taken on Trump.

Bernie had the most enthusiasm and was fucked by Phocahontas as well as other "contenders" dropping out to help Biden win. And Kamala was the picked frontrunner but got raped by Tulsi. 2020 and 2016 have been fuckups when the DNC tries to interfere.

1976 Jimmy Carter is impressive how we won though, basically the last democrat to take the Solid South to victory despite Ford had the whole western half of the country to himself.

2004 featured swiftboating and the whole Dan Rather National Guard documents controversy. Really 2004 was early enough in the War on Terror that Bush could still ride the post-9/11 'support our troops' wave and John Kerry was uncharismatic, had also voted for Iraq, and pretty much his platform was 'I'm not Bush.' The wheels didn't really start coming off the Bush administration until 2005-2006.

 

[UselessIdiot]

I can't get over how oblivious and incompetent our political class is, even when stared in the face with blatantly obviously answers.

It's no wonder we were subjected to a generation of the most awful politicians and strategists.
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Talk about living in an echo chamber. New Yorkers really are out of touch with middle America. It ain't just a meme.