Goonclown Steven Bonnell II / Destiny / Destiny.gg - Emotionally Unstable Manchild, Creeps on Teenagers, Incest Supporter, Degenerate Foot Sniffer, Cum Felcher, Gooner

[Mr E. Grifter]

He's not being a contrarian, he's always been super in favor of self-defence and all that stuff, the man literally keeps a glock under his desk so he's being pretty consistent here.
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I'll give the man his due, he's right about this shit. Imagine arguing with some fat, pasty, no nothing sperg who has never been in a fight in his life, never witnessed an angry crowd of people rampage through an area trying to tell you it is unacceptable to defend yourself. That it's fine for people's livelihoods to be burnt down, and that you need to do ethical calculations in the moments before someone kicks the ever living shit out of you.

You've got to be completely clueless, completely divorced from reality to think like Vaush does about violence. Mentioning films about super heros who can fucking fly, no you get a bunch of people beating the fuck out of you and you may never get up again. Fuck, you might get up, but your face might be fucked, your teeth might need replacing or maybe you never walk properly again. This shit isn't fun, and when people go into the streets and start being violent this is what happens. People get hurt. It's not fun, it's not righteous, and it won't take much for this to get much much worse.

 

[Sage In All Fields]

You've got to be completely clueless, completely divorced from reality to think like Vaush does about violence. Mentioning films about super heros who can fucking fly, no you get a bunch of people beating the fuck out of you and you may never get up again. Fuck, you might get up, but your face might be fucked, your teeth might need replacing or maybe you never walk properly again. This shit isn't fun, and when people go into the streets and start being violent this is what happens. People get hurt. It's not fun, it's not righteous, and it won't take much for this to get much much worse.

The problem is socialists like Vaush are typically middle class leading to them being overly insulated from:
1. How bad people's lives can actually get
2. How brutal people can be
And as such have no idea what it takes to survive that stuff and just how easy it is to die.

 

[Ethan Ralphs Micro Penis]

I still think it's great how Destiny essentially launched Vaush and Hasan and they try to dunk on him now.

Destiny's a sperg with some questionable debate tactics, but he's our little sperg. He's the only one of those guys who seems like he'd be alright to shoot the shit with when it's not politics, and even his politics aren't as dogshit insane as the other two. Vaush will probably bring up capeshit and Hasan just seems like an arrogant fuck who makes everything about himself or his struggles.

 

[HonestJohn2376]

I'll give the man his due, he's right about this shit. Imagine arguing with some fat, pasty, no nothing sperg who has never been in a fight in his life, never witnessed an angry crowd of people rampage through an area trying to tell you it is unacceptable to defend yourself. That it's fine for people's livelihoods to be burnt down, and that you need to do ethical calculations in the moments before someone kicks the ever living shit out of you.

You've got to be completely clueless, completely divorced from reality to think like Vaush does about violence. Mentioning films about super heros who can fucking fly, no you get a bunch of people beating the fuck out of you and you may never get up again. Fuck, you might get up, but your face might be fucked, your teeth might need replacing or maybe you never walk properly again. This shit isn't fun, and when people go into the streets and start being violent this is what happens. People get hurt. It's not fun, it's not righteous, and it won't take much for this to get much much worse.

The problem is socialists like Vaush are typically middle class leading to them being overly insulated from:
1. How bad people's lives can actually get
2. How brutal people can be
And as such have no idea what it takes to survive that stuff and just how easy it is to die.

Vaush's sheltered life really reveals itself here. Even if, after doing all the morality math in the world, it turns out that submitting to the mob is the right thing, who in their right mind will actually do that? A sane man will of course fight back, using lethal force if necessary, against a mob that could kill him or cripple him for life.

I overall sympathize with BLM and support nonviolent protests from BLM or anyone else, but I hate the rioters as much as every other sensible person does. People targeted by the rioters, inbred rednecks or otherwise, have every right to defend their lives and property from a violent mob. This is not a controversial or reactionary take, unlike what Vaush, Hassan, or the hambeast may think.

 

[Sage In All Fields]

I overall sympathize with BLM and support nonviolent protests from BLM or anyone else, but I hate the rioters as much as every other sensible person does. People targeted by the rioters, inbred rednecks or otherwise, have every right to defend their lives and property from a violent mob. This is not a controversial or reactionary take, unlike what Vaush or the hambeast may think.

I don't even mind violent protests as long as it stays between them and the cops, what I have a problem with is them going after random citizens and their property because they're pussies who don't believe in their cause enough to deal with people who actually have firepower. Vid related:

 

[Table Country]

I still think it's great how Destiny essentially launched Vaush and Hasan and they try to dunk on him now.

Destiny's a sperg with some questionable debate tactics, but he's our little sperg. He's the only one of those guys who seems like he'd be alright to shoot the shit with when it's not politics, and even his politics aren't as dogshit insane as the other two. Vaush will probably bring up capeshit and Hasan just seems like an arrogant fuck who makes everything about himself or his struggles.

Nah, I still think Steven's an asshole. It's just funny seeing even Ben Shapinko get fed up with all these bleeding-heart retards.

I don't even mind violent protests as long as it stays between them and the cops, what I have a problem with is them going after random citizens and their property because they're pussies who don't believe in their cause enough to deal with people who actually have firepower. Vid related:
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Holy shit that white trash kid needs to get smacked.

 

[HonestJohn2376]

I don't even mind violent protests as long as it stays between them and the cops, what I have a problem with is them going after random citizens and their property because they're pussies who don't believe in their cause enough to deal with people who actually have firepower. Vid related:
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I have mixed feelings about violent protests. Ideally, there should be no violent protests, and reasoned moral arguments would persuade people to change, but we don't live in a world governed by philosopher kings. Every major movement from the suffragettes to the civil rights activists needed to use violent tactics to pressure the state into making the concessions we now take for granted.

Violence does solve problems but only rarely and when done intelligently. Unfortunately, violence is chaotic, and even the most calculated violence causes collateral ruin, solving one problem just to create more. A smart BLM leader would recognize the importance of violently confronting the police and the state to achieve her goals, but the rioters destroying innocent people's lives would be inevitable. The rioters themselves are just opportunists out to loot stuff or take revenge against the white man. So if you were a BLM leader, you would have to try minimizing the rioting and other dangerous idiocy while assuming responsibility. Way easier said than done. That is politics outside Twitch.

That being said, @Table Country is right. The brat needs to get her ass whooped and be sent home to her parents.

 

[Mr E. Grifter]

I don't even mind violent protests as long as it stays between them and the cops, what I have a problem with is them going after random citizens and their property because they're pussies who don't believe in their cause enough to deal with people who actually have firepower. Vid related:
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Look, obviously it's the job of the police to deal with this nonsense, so while I would much rather they dealt with this than 17 year olds LARPing as fucking Minute Men - going out to intentionally cause shit with the police is almost as retarded. Brilliant, you've just thrown a brick at a guy who is on the same salary as you because he's not letting you burn down a Starbucks "stop protecting the capitalist system mannnn"

It's not like you live in Russia or fucking Belarus, you don't need to physically threaten people for change. It's almost like people have forgotten that.

 

[Wünderkind]

lmao much as i loathe him it's a pleasing development to see even tiny tim want the retarded rioting and looting "protestors" quashed by any means at hand. what a timeline!

 

[Mr E. Grifter]

I have mixed feelings about violent protests. Ideally, there should be no violent protests, and reasoned moral arguments would persuade people to change, but we don't live in a world governed by philosopher kings. Every major movement from the suffragettes to the civil rights activists needed to use violent tactics to pressure the state into making the concessions we now take for granted.

Violence does solve problems but only rarely and when done intelligently. Unfortunately, violence is chaotic, and even the most calculated violence causes collateral ruin, solving one problem just to create more. A smart BLM leader would recognize the importance of violently confronting the police and the state to achieve her goals, but the rioters destroying innocent people's lives would be inevitable. The rioters themselves are just opportunists out to loot stuff or take revenge against the white man. So if you were a BLM leader, you would have to try minimizing the rioting and other dangerous idiocy while assuming responsibility. Way easier said than done. That is politics outside Twitch.

That being said, @Table Country is right. The brat needs to get her ass whooped and be sent home to her parents.

It has its place, but I think people overplay it's effectiveness in order to justify its use.

Take your two examples, the Suffragettes were actually a fringe part of the wider women's suffrage movement -in the UK at least - and they used violence, whereas the much larger women's suffragist movement did not. Yet the popular conception of this is generally of suffragettes being all women in the movement. Allegedly, they were a bit of a drag on the suffragists as people lumped both groups together.

IIRC the 1960s race riots occurred primarily after the civil rights act, and had allowed Richard Nixon - a historic friend of the blacks as we all know... - to run on a law and order platform. It also caused lasting economic damages to those areas.

So sure, I wouldn't write off violence as a tactic altogether - but I don't think it's ever ideal, people remember that shit.

 

[Berrakh]

If you get violent you have to win, basically.

 

[BeboRefugee]

Nina did nothing wrong. Destiny shit-tests anybody he disagrees with, and even though I don't agree with Nina, at all, on anything, I can appreciate somebody who refuses to take an ounce of Steve's disrespect.

t. somebody who only saw the 20 minute edit so can't even tell if its a misleading crop or not

 

[Goku 1000000 O]

Improved version I found somewhere.

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That needs to end with some ear rape music, all build up and no payoff.

 

[Miller]

Breadtube were never looking to debate. They were always looking to force all opposition completely off platforms so they were the only voice left using the collaboration of the corporations weakened by culture war politics.

Styx said the same thing a few months ago. They don't want to "debate", they want the little gotcha moment that will allow them to destroy somebody.

 

[cokedemon]

I think a lot of his takes are retarded but you gotta give it to Little Steven, he doesn't back down.

where's this from do you have a link too the whole stream ???

nevermine i found it

 

[CORRUPT🍀]

lmao much as i loathe him it's a pleasing development to see even tiny tim want the retarded rioting and looting "protestors" quashed by any means at hand. what a timeline!

He doesn't shy away from fear of wrong think. I've been amazed to see destiny acting in a manner that's agreeable and commendable on Twitter. Calling out that "blacks can't racist" schtick. Lemme find a clip

 

[Big Brown Schlub]

I'm on Steve's side in this war of Tiny vs Vaush

 

[ManletPower]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA24zpiBjO0

 

[Rekkington]

Styx said the same thing a few months ago. They don't want to "debate", they want the little gotcha moment that will allow them to destroy somebody.

They're all outgrowth from Weird Twitter which is basically just an outgrowth of Something Awful Goons, and their whole tactic is mockery. They would rather just make fun of people than make actual arguments, and it's so transparent. See a lot of them end up where they are politically not because of any ideological reason, but they like making fun of rednecks and neocons. They're just terrified of being cringe.
This is why they just make fun of Ben Shapiro for being a dork and roll their eyes like catty homosexuals. This is why they make fun of people who bring up FBI crime statistics and shit like that, they don't any counter arguments they just think it's a lame thing those people do. You're correct in saying they don't want to debate, they just want clips that make someone look embarrassing so they can laugh at it. Zero of them actually address things someone like Nick Fuentes would say, but they all have a gif of him picking his nose.

 

[HonestJohn2376]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA24zpiBjO0

LOL