Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)
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As others said: positively atrocious internal polling. Other factors may include Biden's accelerating mental decline, the boost in support for the RNC after their convention, and chicanery from the Obama and Clinton factions of the DNC.
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People have been asking where are the polls and what is causing the Democrats to panic.
Black voters pushing Trump to victory, with support for Biden 15 points down
www.washingtonexaminer.com
President Trump’s support from likely black voters is nearly twice what campaign officials believe is needed to win reelection and 15 points under the level Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden needs, according to a new survey.
The latest John Zogby Strategies/EMI Research Solutions poll, which was taken after last week’s Republican National Convention that featured several minority speakers, put Trump’s support from black voters at 20%. For Biden, it is at 75%.
For Trump, that is 12 points more than he received in 2016 and 9 points more than campaign officials believe he needs to keep the White House. One senior official recently told Secrets, “If it’s at 11%, then we win.”
The polling analysis suggested that the rioting in cities and Trump’s law and order stance could be driving more black voters into his camp and robbing Biden of votes from the Democratic Party’s most loyal base.
The analysis said, “Biden should be pleased with his support among Democrats, women, and Hispanics but a lead of 75%-20% among blacks can spell real trouble. A Democrat needs 90%+ and a high turnout among blacks. Could it be that Trump’s law and order message is hitting home among blacks who are worried about demonstrations getting out of control? Biden holds 52%-35% among 18-29-year-olds but Barack Obama won with 66% in 2008 and 61% in 2012 among this young cohort.”
Paris Dennard, the campaign’s senior communications adviser for black media affairs, told Secrets, “It is not surprising to see numerous polls showing President Trump’s approval with black voters increasing. After watching both political conventions make their best case, black Americans are giving President Trump a second look, and many a first look, because they are learning more about his record of achievement and Joe Biden’s old and new policies that work against the black community coupled with Biden’s consistently offensive bigoted comments.”
Several other recent polls have found steady support for Trump from black voters.
The poll also found Biden leading Trump, but the lead shrank after the Republican convention.
In a two-way race, Biden leads Trump, 48% to 42%. In a four-way race that includes two independents, who are pulling votes away from Biden, the Democrat leads 45% to 42%.
D +/- who the fuck knows because why would they tell you that.
Also, poll of 1000 people. So lol.
Black voters pushing Trump to victory, with support for Biden 15 points down
Black voters pushing Trump to victory, with support for Biden 15 points down
President Trump’s support from likely black voters is nearly twice what campaign officials believe is needed to win reelection and 15 points under the level Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden needs, according to a new survey.
www.washingtonexaminer.com
President Trump’s support from likely black voters is nearly twice what campaign officials believe is needed to win reelection and 15 points under the level Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden needs, according to a new survey.
The latest John Zogby Strategies/EMI Research Solutions poll, which was taken after last week’s Republican National Convention that featured several minority speakers, put Trump’s support from black voters at 20%. For Biden, it is at 75%.
For Trump, that is 12 points more than he received in 2016 and 9 points more than campaign officials believe he needs to keep the White House. One senior official recently told Secrets, “If it’s at 11%, then we win.”
The polling analysis suggested that the rioting in cities and Trump’s law and order stance could be driving more black voters into his camp and robbing Biden of votes from the Democratic Party’s most loyal base.
The analysis said, “Biden should be pleased with his support among Democrats, women, and Hispanics but a lead of 75%-20% among blacks can spell real trouble. A Democrat needs 90%+ and a high turnout among blacks. Could it be that Trump’s law and order message is hitting home among blacks who are worried about demonstrations getting out of control? Biden holds 52%-35% among 18-29-year-olds but Barack Obama won with 66% in 2008 and 61% in 2012 among this young cohort.”
Paris Dennard, the campaign’s senior communications adviser for black media affairs, told Secrets, “It is not surprising to see numerous polls showing President Trump’s approval with black voters increasing. After watching both political conventions make their best case, black Americans are giving President Trump a second look, and many a first look, because they are learning more about his record of achievement and Joe Biden’s old and new policies that work against the black community coupled with Biden’s consistently offensive bigoted comments.”
Several other recent polls have found steady support for Trump from black voters.
The poll also found Biden leading Trump, but the lead shrank after the Republican convention.
In a two-way race, Biden leads Trump, 48% to 42%. In a four-way race that includes two independents, who are pulling votes away from Biden, the Democrat leads 45% to 42%.
Biden Leads Trump by 6 Points; Lead Drops to 3 Points with Four Candidates; But Voters Still Think Trump Will Win In November
A new poll of 1007 likely voters taken two days after the Republican National Convention reveals that former Vice President Joe Biden now leads President Donald Trump 48% to 42%, with 10% undecided. The nationwide online poll was conducted on August 29, 2020, by John Zogby Strategies and EMI Research Solutions and has a margin-of-sampling error of +/- 3.2 percentage points for overall results.
With Libertarian Party nominee Jo Jorgensen and Green Party’s Howie Hawkins added in, Biden slips to a 45%-42% lead, with 3% selecting Jorgensen and 2% preferring Hawkins. Hawkins appears to be grabbing 3 points from Democrats and 5 points from Hispanics. Jorgensen receives 7% from independent/unaffiliated voters and 4% from 18-29-year-olds.
The new poll of the 2-way alone shows Biden and Trump scoring what they need to achieve within their own parties – Biden 90%-7% among Democrats, Trump 87%-7% among Republicans – and Biden with only a 4-point lead among independent/unaffiliated voters, 41%-37%.
While Trump leads 50%-38% with white voters, Biden appears to be in good shape with Hispanics 68%-26%. Following the RNC, the John Zogby Strategies/EMI Research Solutions Poll has some potentially troubling news for the former VP: Trump is polling 20% among Blacks to Biden’s 75% with 5% undecided.
The two candidates are tied among men (46% Trump, 45% Biden), but the gender gap lives with Biden leading among women 51%-39%. Biden holds double-digit leads among voters in cities (59%-33%) and suburbs (51%-41%) – but Trump dominates in rural areas by 27 points, 57%-30%).
This poll reveals no so-called “enthusiasm gap” with a total of 94% of Biden supporters saying their vote is solid (60% definite and 34% very strong and not likely to change), and 89% of Trump supporters expressing the same sentiment (56% definite, 33% very strong and not likely to change).
Nonetheless, a small plurality of voters – 43% to 40% — believes Trump will win. That includes 80% of Republicans, 13% of Democrats, and 37% of independents/unaffiliated. Two in three Democrats (66%) say they will “accept the results of the election if Trump wins) and 70% of Republicans say they will do the same if Biden wins. But 20% of Democrats will not accept a Trump victory nor will 18% of Republicans accept a Biden victory.
Veteran Pollster John Zogby: There is still a long way to go. Biden holds on to a lead but the July 2020 John Zogby Strategies/EMI Research Solutions Poll had Biden leading by 13 points. A 6 point lead is not enough to fire up for a victory lap. Biden should be pleased with his support among Democrats, women, and Hispanics but a lead of 75%-20% among Blacks can spell real trouble. A Democrat needs 90%+ and a high turnout among Blacks. Could it be that Trump’s law and order message is hitting home among Blacks who are worried about demonstrations getting out of control? Biden holds 52%-35% among 18-29-year-olds but Barack Obama won with 66% in 2008 and 61% in 2012 among this young cohort. (After Labor Day we will have a more detailed look at 18-29-year-olds among a much larger sample.) Biden is underperforming. Meanwhile, Trump needs to be concerned that one in five self-described conservatives are supporting Biden and that his 12 point lead among white voters is not enough to offset his deficit among Hispanics. Biden seems to have eliminated the enthusiasm gap and cut into the perception that Trump will win (especially polling right on the heels of the Republican National Convention – but this is certainly not over). Historically, support for minor party candidates dwindles as the race between major party candidates gets fierce and tight – but both candidates need to be looking over their shoulder, particularly Biden at Hawkins who may be picking up disaffected Sander’s supporters.
A new poll of 1007 likely voters taken two days after the Republican National Convention reveals that former Vice President Joe Biden now leads President Donald Trump 48% to 42%, with 10% undecided. The nationwide online poll was conducted on August 29, 2020, by John Zogby Strategies and EMI Research Solutions and has a margin-of-sampling error of +/- 3.2 percentage points for overall results.
With Libertarian Party nominee Jo Jorgensen and Green Party’s Howie Hawkins added in, Biden slips to a 45%-42% lead, with 3% selecting Jorgensen and 2% preferring Hawkins. Hawkins appears to be grabbing 3 points from Democrats and 5 points from Hispanics. Jorgensen receives 7% from independent/unaffiliated voters and 4% from 18-29-year-olds.
The new poll of the 2-way alone shows Biden and Trump scoring what they need to achieve within their own parties – Biden 90%-7% among Democrats, Trump 87%-7% among Republicans – and Biden with only a 4-point lead among independent/unaffiliated voters, 41%-37%.
While Trump leads 50%-38% with white voters, Biden appears to be in good shape with Hispanics 68%-26%. Following the RNC, the John Zogby Strategies/EMI Research Solutions Poll has some potentially troubling news for the former VP: Trump is polling 20% among Blacks to Biden’s 75% with 5% undecided.
The two candidates are tied among men (46% Trump, 45% Biden), but the gender gap lives with Biden leading among women 51%-39%. Biden holds double-digit leads among voters in cities (59%-33%) and suburbs (51%-41%) – but Trump dominates in rural areas by 27 points, 57%-30%).
This poll reveals no so-called “enthusiasm gap” with a total of 94% of Biden supporters saying their vote is solid (60% definite and 34% very strong and not likely to change), and 89% of Trump supporters expressing the same sentiment (56% definite, 33% very strong and not likely to change).
Nonetheless, a small plurality of voters – 43% to 40% — believes Trump will win. That includes 80% of Republicans, 13% of Democrats, and 37% of independents/unaffiliated. Two in three Democrats (66%) say they will “accept the results of the election if Trump wins) and 70% of Republicans say they will do the same if Biden wins. But 20% of Democrats will not accept a Trump victory nor will 18% of Republicans accept a Biden victory.
Veteran Pollster John Zogby: There is still a long way to go. Biden holds on to a lead but the July 2020 John Zogby Strategies/EMI Research Solutions Poll had Biden leading by 13 points. A 6 point lead is not enough to fire up for a victory lap. Biden should be pleased with his support among Democrats, women, and Hispanics but a lead of 75%-20% among Blacks can spell real trouble. A Democrat needs 90%+ and a high turnout among Blacks. Could it be that Trump’s law and order message is hitting home among Blacks who are worried about demonstrations getting out of control? Biden holds 52%-35% among 18-29-year-olds but Barack Obama won with 66% in 2008 and 61% in 2012 among this young cohort. (After Labor Day we will have a more detailed look at 18-29-year-olds among a much larger sample.) Biden is underperforming. Meanwhile, Trump needs to be concerned that one in five self-described conservatives are supporting Biden and that his 12 point lead among white voters is not enough to offset his deficit among Hispanics. Biden seems to have eliminated the enthusiasm gap and cut into the perception that Trump will win (especially polling right on the heels of the Republican National Convention – but this is certainly not over). Historically, support for minor party candidates dwindles as the race between major party candidates gets fierce and tight – but both candidates need to be looking over their shoulder, particularly Biden at Hawkins who may be picking up disaffected Sander’s supporters.
D +/- who the fuck knows because why would they tell you that.
Also, poll of 1000 people. So lol.
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Not likely. The woke are increasingly rebellious against the Dem establishment. In 2016 and 2020, Dems told leftists to step back and let a respectable moderate take the lead. They played all kinds of dirty tricks to kneecap the progressives and justified it saying it was for the sake of getting elected.
But in 2016 they failed to win the election. This year they browbeat the progressives into submission again threatening them with 4 more years of Trump. If they lose this time the woke insurrection will explode within the party and they'll demand to have total control, replace Pelosi and Schumer with genderqueer BIPOC, etc. The woke will insist that the reason for the losses was not picking a super-woke candidate; they'll push AOC for the next presidental run.
At that point it's life or death for the Dem establishment. The woke are incapable of reason or pragmatism and their ideology is like a one-way ratchet going more and more extreme. They'll run on open borders and abolishing the police. The Dems will have to get rid of them or lose a large part of their support and become a small minority party for decades.
Wokeism has been taken up by Democrats as a religion though, so purging it from the party will be very unpleasant. It may lead to progressives founding a socialist party that bleeds many votes from Dems. Without them the Dems don't have much of an identity aside from being the neoliberal business party.
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I am curious; I feel like AOC is going to come out as bisexual sometime in the next couple years. Because as you said; it's all identity politics now. She'll "need" to be gay or they will demand someone that is. We already saw in 2020 that Biden HAD to select a black woman or else.
Edit: I think I was wrong; AOC turns 35 a month before the 2024 election. So she might be able to run then. I don't know if you have to be 35 for the primaries.
Double Edit: I think you only have to be 35 by Inauguration Day.
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Probably the point I'd disagree would be on whether the progressives would have the balls to totally split off from the mainstream and hit up their own party. True, it's the logical conclusion, but hell, last time we had that happen, they had a cause worth fighting for, one most people were tepid to approach in the first place. The republican foundation. I just cannae see the progressive/radicals finding a golden goose to sway your average voter off from the main herd. Again, wouldn't mean shit unless the college electroal was dropped, and even then they'd have to climb over the corpses of the two other parties. They can barely handle these old bastards in the dems, can ya imagine them trying to go two to two with both them and the Republicans?
On your last point, yeah, the dems have no other face than that of neo-liberals, little difference between them and republicans, take away the wokey wankers and take away from the republicans your Jesus nuts. Cut from the same cloth, but to fix economical mobility, it's going to take the government doing something like the new deal again, if the republicans weren't so focused on cutting, upping defence budgets and so on, they might be able to do it. But they're key-holing themselves into a spot where it's just going to drive people to either extreme. Poor American buggers, you're in one hell of a tight spot, shame the fix is eating shite or drinking pish. Dinnae envy your task one bit.
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That probably happened back at the RNC, but, it wasn't until today that the last doctored and over-sampled poll they were using (and ignoring all others) finally flipped from light blue to light red.... so now they can't even pretend Trump's "technically not ahead yet"
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If Trump actually manages to get sizable portions of the black vote, then it's all over for the Democrats this election season.People have been asking where are the polls and what is causing the Democrats to panic.
Black voters pushing Trump to victory, with support for Biden 15 points down
Black voters pushing Trump to victory, with support for Biden 15 points down
President Trump’s support from likely black voters is nearly twice what campaign officials believe is needed to win reelection and 15 points under the level Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden needs, according to a new survey.
President Trump’s support from likely black voters is nearly twice what campaign officials believe is needed to win reelection and 15 points under the level Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden needs, according to a new survey.
The latest John Zogby Strategies/EMI Research Solutions poll, which was taken after last week’s Republican National Convention that featured several minority speakers, put Trump’s support from black voters at 20%. For Biden, it is at 75%.
For Trump, that is 12 points more than he received in 2016 and 9 points more than campaign officials believe he needs to keep the White House. One senior official recently told Secrets, “If it’s at 11%, then we win.”
The polling analysis suggested that the rioting in cities and Trump’s law and order stance could be driving more black voters into his camp and robbing Biden of votes from the Democratic Party’s most loyal base.
The analysis said, “Biden should be pleased with his support among Democrats, women, and Hispanics but a lead of 75%-20% among blacks can spell real trouble. A Democrat needs 90%+ and a high turnout among blacks. Could it be that Trump’s law and order message is hitting home among blacks who are worried about demonstrations getting out of control? Biden holds 52%-35% among 18-29-year-olds but Barack Obama won with 66% in 2008 and 61% in 2012 among this young cohort.”
Paris Dennard, the campaign’s senior communications adviser for black media affairs, told Secrets, “It is not surprising to see numerous polls showing President Trump’s approval with black voters increasing. After watching both political conventions make their best case, black Americans are giving President Trump a second look, and many a first look, because they are learning more about his record of achievement and Joe Biden’s old and new policies that work against the black community coupled with Biden’s consistently offensive bigoted comments.”
Several other recent polls have found steady support for Trump from black voters.
The poll also found Biden leading Trump, but the lead shrank after the Republican convention.
In a two-way race, Biden leads Trump, 48% to 42%. In a four-way race that includes two independents, who are pulling votes away from Biden, the Democrat leads 45% to 42%.
Biden Leads Trump by 6 Points; Lead Drops to 3 Points with Four Candidates; But Voters Still Think Trump Will Win In November
A new poll of 1007 likely voters taken two days after the Republican National Convention reveals that former Vice President Joe Biden now leads President Donald Trump 48% to 42%, with 10% undecided. The nationwide online poll was conducted on August 29, 2020, by John Zogby Strategies and EMI Research Solutions and has a margin-of-sampling error of +/- 3.2 percentage points for overall results.
With Libertarian Party nominee Jo Jorgensen and Green Party’s Howie Hawkins added in, Biden slips to a 45%-42% lead, with 3% selecting Jorgensen and 2% preferring Hawkins. Hawkins appears to be grabbing 3 points from Democrats and 5 points from Hispanics. Jorgensen receives 7% from independent/unaffiliated voters and 4% from 18-29-year-olds.
The new poll of the 2-way alone shows Biden and Trump scoring what they need to achieve within their own parties – Biden 90%-7% among Democrats, Trump 87%-7% among Republicans – and Biden with only a 4-point lead among independent/unaffiliated voters, 41%-37%.
While Trump leads 50%-38% with white voters, Biden appears to be in good shape with Hispanics 68%-26%. Following the RNC, the John Zogby Strategies/EMI Research Solutions Poll has some potentially troubling news for the former VP: Trump is polling 20% among Blacks to Biden’s 75% with 5% undecided.
The two candidates are tied among men (46% Trump, 45% Biden), but the gender gap lives with Biden leading among women 51%-39%. Biden holds double-digit leads among voters in cities (59%-33%) and suburbs (51%-41%) – but Trump dominates in rural areas by 27 points, 57%-30%).
This poll reveals no so-called “enthusiasm gap” with a total of 94% of Biden supporters saying their vote is solid (60% definite and 34% very strong and not likely to change), and 89% of Trump supporters expressing the same sentiment (56% definite, 33% very strong and not likely to change).
Nonetheless, a small plurality of voters – 43% to 40% — believes Trump will win. That includes 80% of Republicans, 13% of Democrats, and 37% of independents/unaffiliated. Two in three Democrats (66%) say they will “accept the results of the election if Trump wins) and 70% of Republicans say they will do the same if Biden wins. But 20% of Democrats will not accept a Trump victory nor will 18% of Republicans accept a Biden victory.
Veteran Pollster John Zogby: There is still a long way to go. Biden holds on to a lead but the July 2020 John Zogby Strategies/EMI Research Solutions Poll had Biden leading by 13 points. A 6 point lead is not enough to fire up for a victory lap. Biden should be pleased with his support among Democrats, women, and Hispanics but a lead of 75%-20% among Blacks can spell real trouble. A Democrat needs 90%+ and a high turnout among Blacks. Could it be that Trump’s law and order message is hitting home among Blacks who are worried about demonstrations getting out of control? Biden holds 52%-35% among 18-29-year-olds but Barack Obama won with 66% in 2008 and 61% in 2012 among this young cohort. (After Labor Day we will have a more detailed look at 18-29-year-olds among a much larger sample.) Biden is underperforming. Meanwhile, Trump needs to be concerned that one in five self-described conservatives are supporting Biden and that his 12 point lead among white voters is not enough to offset his deficit among Hispanics. Biden seems to have eliminated the enthusiasm gap and cut into the perception that Trump will win (especially polling right on the heels of the Republican National Convention – but this is certainly not over). Historically, support for minor party candidates dwindles as the race between major party candidates gets fierce and tight – but both candidates need to be looking over their shoulder, particularly Biden at Hawkins who may be picking up disaffected Sander’s supporters.
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It’s impossible to tell. As has already been said elsewhere in the thread, almost half the electorate thinks he has some form of dementia and needs a nasty, possibly dangerous cocktail of drugs to be lucid enough for debates. That’s probably why we’re getting things like Cornpop or the hairy legs thing between points where he needs to be aware of his surroundings ala. the debate with Sanders. He’d probably liquify his kidneys and piss them out if he was on what he needed all the time to think at all; which is why Trump is now joking about needing a MMA/Boxing-style weigh in and drug test.
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I dont think AoC is going to be anything after she gets redistricted out of a seat.
If Trump wins I feel there will be a Democrat civil war between the moderated and neo-blue dogs vs the new progressive wing of the left. Each will do their best to blame the other for the loss and they will be many casualties as they primary the shit out of each other.
It's my deepest wish that the progressive get crushed and the IdPol/SJWism dies a very needed death as it's shown to be the poison that it is. I'm sure it will never truely go away as it's just too useful a tool for those in power to exploit to divide the masses but it love to see a major set back on all progressive fronts.
If Bernie, a progressive with a "massive" following, years of political experience and a lifetime of good press behind him couldnt fight the DNC and win how do you think an abrasive, childish and sorry to say but cuntish former bartender who got more skeletos in her closet then a 5 term senator could possible hope to?
Sure she's a media darling at the moment but the MSM takes its marching order from the DC and not the progressives. Once she's no longer useful as a rallying point for shit-libs she'll be canned faster then you'd ever dream.
Politics is a big boy sport, amateurs had no real place in it sadly. If you don't bring something to the table you ain't getting anything in return.
If Trump wins I feel there will be a Democrat civil war between the moderated and neo-blue dogs vs the new progressive wing of the left. Each will do their best to blame the other for the loss and they will be many casualties as they primary the shit out of each other.
It's my deepest wish that the progressive get crushed and the IdPol/SJWism dies a very needed death as it's shown to be the poison that it is. I'm sure it will never truely go away as it's just too useful a tool for those in power to exploit to divide the masses but it love to see a major set back on all progressive fronts.
If Bernie, a progressive with a "massive" following, years of political experience and a lifetime of good press behind him couldnt fight the DNC and win how do you think an abrasive, childish and sorry to say but cuntish former bartender who got more skeletos in her closet then a 5 term senator could possible hope to?
Sure she's a media darling at the moment but the MSM takes its marching order from the DC and not the progressives. Once she's no longer useful as a rallying point for shit-libs she'll be canned faster then you'd ever dream.
Politics is a big boy sport, amateurs had no real place in it sadly. If you don't bring something to the table you ain't getting anything in return.
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If he gets significant black votes it's an existential crisis for the Democrats. Their entire long-term strategy is founded on the idea that non-white people are incapable of voting for Republicans.
The Dems market themselves as the POC Party, but not being white is a really tenuous basis for a political bloc. Once George Floyd happened, Democrats went from being the POC Party to being the Black With A Capital B Party. Everyone else takes a back seat to blacks. Latinos are more numerous, they and Asians have more money. Black people have nothing to offer but a >90% voting rate and a declining population, but Dems are bending over backwards to pander to them.
Eventually some members of these groups will realize that being swing voters gets them more political power than checking D every time. If black voters go Republican, the Dem collapse is happening even earlier than expected.
They have the balls to torch cities, kill people and make excuses for the murderers. They live in their own reality; the glorious revolution is happening and any day now, once they've burned enough dumpsters, the government will fall and they can take charge to create a new perfect society.
If the Democrats tell them "enough is enough, sit down and shut up with the intersectional justice stuff, we need your help to win elections" they'll be forced to break away. Otherwise they'll lose what they've invested their entire identity in. Normally I'd agree that forming third parties is something people just idly threaten to do in the future but the Democrats will have to dismantle wokeism to survive, and they don't know how to create anything inspiring to take its place. "Vote for more globalist trade deals!"
The party they create wouldn't be a big party nor capable of winning national elections. There are already local parties like Socialist Alternative in Seattle which Kshama Sawant belongs to. I could see them building a nationwide party incorporating smaller parties like that that can install a few city council members and state reps here and there in deep blue districts. Maybe take a couple House seats .
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I think Biden winning will only kick the can down the road a few years. The neolibs will be convinced they need an establishment candidate to win while his actual administration will be punctuated by wokebaiting in a vain attempt at keeping them quiet. It will come to a reckoning either at the midterms or 2024 at the latest. Whichever faction has the momentum of the party will try to bring the other in line to win and there will be a schism.
I don't see how the DNC avoids fracturing at some point in the near future. Either the establishment neolibs who can appeal to boomer liberals and some moderates retain control and force the progressives out or the progressives wrest control of the party and demand pledges of woke fealty some will refuse to give. They cannot bring the progressives to heel at this point. The establishment has only been applauding and paying lip service to socjus, but the people they were courting have been living and breathing it. The DNC's mouth has been writing woke checks that its ideology can't cash.
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The thing about Woke Leftism is that it's more or less filling the same niche for the Democrats that Traditionalist Protestant Christianity served for the Republicans during the eras of Clinton and Bush Jr. (also Reagan and Bush Sr. to a lesser extent) in that it's the one gimmick they have that sets them apart from being the generic corporatist party.
It wasn't until Trump came along that the GOP was even able to make headway on shaking off the mantle, and the idea had been floated around and discussed after the 2012 Election and if Biden loses 2020, I suspect the Democrats will have a similar post-election autopsy that forces them to admit some harsh truths and make some tough calls behind closed doors.
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I agree, I mean say Biden gets in, what can he do that’s going to appease the black lives matter style progressives? They’re always going to keep complaining and nothing will ever be good enough.
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Sadly Joe said "I want to kill whitey and that's why..."
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The ultimate problem with the Biden strategy is that his campaign planned for another COVID spike in September that would bring the death toll to 3-400,000. This is not happening, and furthermore, COVID has dropped from the #2 issue behind the economy to #3 because of crime. Crime got such a bump in voter importance that it may overtake the economy by the end of the week. He and his team know they cannot milk this dead horse for much longer, hence the 180 in media and the Biden team on riots. They are now trying to pin Rittenhouse on Trump, which isn't going to work because anyone that looks at the video shows it is not pre-meditaded murder, but self defense. Furthermore, more riots may occur, drowning out that issue.
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it's some nice heckling for sure,It’s this year’s “shouting Pepe at Hillary” moment.
but I can't see anything as perfect as that "dramatic" pause, then "PEPEEEE", then restarting the way the Lich Queen did
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People won't see the video if the MSM and Facebook delete all instances of it.
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The fact that black conservatives are having a banner year in audience growth has them fully shitting themselves.
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Let's hope they actually do it this time around if Biden loses. They should have stopped and reassessed their strategy back when Hillary lost. But they doubled down on it, assume it was just because everybody else was wrong and horrible and racist, and here we are.
It really doesn't look like they're gearing up to a big change of heart, though. They doubled down before, and there's no indication they won't do the same again.
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True, but people are also shifting the tone on "protesters" in general. Its a dying narrative that these fuckers are peaceful. Soon, people are gonna say fuck them, just stop destroying shit. Destiny is a bellweather for this.
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