US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[Salubrious]

Ah, the Biden campaign has released a statement that they want Snopes to do live fact checking during the debate or they might have to consider withdrawing because "reasons".

So they've tossed down the gauntlet at last.

Ps: how the fuck do they think Snopes can fact check a live debate? Will they take a fact check pause between every statement?

Oy-vey

Edit: lol, Reddit is fucking cancer, r/politics is having a collective seizure as no one has told them what to think about the debate issue.

They should have just used Politifact.

"Biden misspoke on his own issue", so Trump calling him out is spreading lies.

 

[CrippleThreat]

Ps: how the fuck do they think Snopes can fact check a live debate? Will they take a fact check pause between every statement?

Oy-vey

Yes. They might do everything in their power to keep Trump from speaking.

And considering the gay ops set in stone, I'm surprised they're not laughing their asses off now to the election, considering the "red mirage" and all.

 

[Corn Flakes]

Ah, the Biden campaign has released a statement that they want Snopes to do live fact checking during the debate or they might have to consider withdrawing because "reasons".

So they've tossed down the gauntlet at last.

Ps: how the fuck do they think Snopes can fact check a live debate? Will they take a fact check pause between every statement? And do they think that for even a sec that Trump would agree to have Snopes of all groups fact check him on live tv? Because Snopes is so we'll know to be a completely neutral party when it comes to US politics and wouldn't fuck him over with the drop of a hat.

Oy-vey

Edit: lol, Reddit is fucking cancer, r/politics is having a collective seizure as no one has told them what to think about the debate issue.

Trump's campaign should agree to it, on the condition that the Babylon Bee be there as factcheckers as well.

 

[X Prime]

I mean... pretty much this for many D voters right now, yeah.

 

[Iceland Heavy]

It may have been another thread (there's three of them), but I disagree just a little.

In 2016, there were indeed some people voting FOR Hillary. They wanted to see the first woman president.

Biden doesn't even have that. 2020 is the true "anti-Trump" vote. There's no reason to vote FOR Biden.

To be fair, I suppose anyone voting for Biden that knows they're really voting for President Kamala Harris is still voting for the first woman president.

 

[Salubrious]

To be fair, I suppose anyone voting for Biden that knows they're really voting for President Kamala Harris is still voting for the first woman president.

True, but outside that one CNN tweet that said that "Kamala is ready to step in if necessary", I really haven't heard anyone except Kiwis mention that Biden will probably not last 4 years.

 

[sperginity]

True, but outside that one CNN tweet that said that "Kamala is ready to step in if necessary", I really haven't heard anyone except Kiwis mention that Biden will probably not last 4 years.

joe rogan has, and his reach should not be underestimated.

 

[tehpope]

So I’m curious: let’s say that a week or two before the election, Biden’s campaign comes out and says he’s got dementia or something, and he cannot run as the Democratic pic. What happens after that? Does the VP take over as the candidate, or would the DNC claim that elections need to be pushed back until a replacement is found?

It all depends on what stage of the election cycle he dies in.

Scenario no. 1 (ed note: we're past this):
If he were to do right now, before the convention, all the Biden delegates still go to the convention pledged to Biden. Technically they take the vote and, well, oops we can't nominate a dead man. (They could skip this step, nobody would cry foul, but according to the DNC bylaws no delegates are unbound until after the first vote,. Not even the Superdelegates.) So it goes to a second round with all the Biden delegates "unbound", meaning they can vote for whoever they want, but in reality they are being wrangled by the state leafers, and we have the much vaunted brokered election, where it could be anybody. Much horse trading and backroom stuff.

There's also the business of the VP. Since right now Biden hasn't announced his VP choice yet, this also would probably be settled duing the bargaining phase of the brokered convention. I'll throw my states votes your way for a VP spot. That kind of thing. This stays true even if Bid n had announced a pick. The VP has to be voted on and nominated by the convention just lik the president, so an announced pick pre convention probably wouldn't hold up. Too many deals to be made.

Scenario no. 2 (ed note: we are here):

Biden made it to the convention, got nominated, a VP pick was made, and then he died.
This one really sucks for the VP.

At this point the ballot in November is going to say Joe Biden for president no matter what, but the VP is going to have to do all the campaigning by themselves. Let's say somehow the Democrats win the general election. It goes to the electoral college as usual. The vote happens as usual. Now it all depends on if the DNC has their shit together or not. If they do have I together, they've made it clear to the Biden electors to all vote for the same person. If they do, good whoever gets the most votes is the president elect. If they don't, and you have enough random votes that go every where then whoever got the most votes is president elect...which would be Trump. Then repeat the process for VP as usual.

This sucks for the VP pick because there is no guarantee for them that the DNC would give the order to elect the VP vote to the president vote. There's not even a guarantee that they'd keep the VP pick as VP. There's also there is also a possibility that if they don't keep it together that you end up with Pence remaining VP to a democratic president. They don't open the ballot box there you see, and there's no do overs. The box stays locked until a joint session of Congress unlocks it and counts the votes. All that matters is who gets the most votes in the box for each office.

Scenario 3:

Biden lives long enough to win the general election, but dies before the Electoral college meets:

Same as scenario 2, but the VP is probably in a better position to "move up a spot" due to the optics involved

Scenario 4:

Joe Biden somehow dies in the half hour between when the electoral college votes and Congress unlocks the box:

This is the only spot where a constitutional crisis would occur. My best guess would be that Congress pretends like they didn't hear anything and we proceed to scenario 5. Otherwise the supreme Court is going to have to sort this one out. Since Biden won the EC, but Trump is the highest vote getting living candidate, but the Dem VP is VP elect. Either way Pence is out of a job.

Scenario 5:

Biden dies between the Congressional vote count and the inauguration:

This one is simple. At this point the VP has the magic word "elect", and this makes all the difference. The VP elect would become president elect, and we proceed as normal, with the VP spot vacant until the new president submits a name to the Senate for approval. The VP is vacant until the Senate says yes.

Note: in this case Biden isn't posthumously inaugurated or anything like that. No asterisks or the like the VP elect goes straight to the White House.

Also in every scenario expect like a bazillion court challenges, but this is the way it should pan out, barring a retarded Hawaiian judge getting involved or something like that.

 

[break these cuffs]

joe rogan has, and his reach should not be underestimated.

Did Spotify remove that episode for rightwing hatespeech?

 

[гape]

i remember when snopes was just the site for reading about satanic led zeppelin backmasking

 

[REGENDarySumanai]

Is there truly any point in voting Biden if he's a dementia ridden husk who will just implement what Trump wants but later down the line?

 

[Corn Flakes]

Is there truly any point in voting Biden if he's a dementia ridden husk who will just implement what Trump wants but later down the line?

Yes, because by electing Biden America will finally have our first Woman President!

 

[CrippleThreat]

Is there truly any point in voting Biden if he's a dementia ridden husk who will just implement what Trump wants but later down the line?

Yes.

His surname does not include "Trump".

 

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The best part of that whole presser where he finally took some questions from the journalists came at the very end, where he went off-script for a split second (Much to the horror of his tard-wranglers I'm sure) and got caught off-guard by a journalist who asked him a legitimately difficult question. "Why were you still hosting rallies in March if you were supposedly warning Trump about the seriousness of COVID-19 in January?"

Joe Biden didn't answer the question, he just went on a prolonged rant for five fucking minutes. If you want to listen to the entire ramble and try to rationalize what he was even saying, be my guest. I'm not wasting five minutes of my life transcribing a rambling, old man. He talked for five minutes straight and he didn't say a single fucking thing.

Can you IMAGINE if he does something similar in the debates, like if Trump turns something around on him and the moderator doesn't stop Biden from taking the bait, and Trump says something like:

"... I'm still waiting on him to actually answer the question."

Ah, the Biden campaign has released a statement that they want Snopes to do live fact checking during the debate or they might have to consider withdrawing because "reasons".

Snopes is a credibility sink. Basically they all pump up Snopes and pretend it's credible (when they control it) so they can cite to it. For other examples of this, see the ADL, SPLC, and Politifact. A million twitter warriors citing a "neutral fact checker" is MUCH more effective than having a million twitter warriors claim something.

The fact that no one on the right has created their own version of Snopes and Politifact that isn't pozzed to hell is depressing. There's enough money being tossed around. Find some righty political undergrads to set it up, fund them, and keep the lefties that will try to entryism it away AND the righties that will attempt to turn it into their own cheerleading squads away, and you'd have something great in 2-3 years.

I also wish by this point that the Right had a live fact checking team calling out Biden et all in real time, but again, that would require organization and planning and that's not the sexy fun times of being a "pundit" or selling a political book or what have you, so the righties don't want anything to do with it.

 

[Bender]

Is there truly any point in voting Biden if he's a dementia ridden husk who will just implement what Trump wants but later down the line?

Yes. It'll be fucking hilarious for us non-Americans.

 

[Salubrious]

Is there truly any point in voting Biden if he's a dementia ridden husk who will just implement what Trump wants but later down the line?

Because Trump killed 170000 Americans with COVID and crashed our economy and is openly racist. That's what my left friends keep telling me.

 

[UselessIdiot]

True, but outside that one CNN tweet that said that "Kamala is ready to step in if necessary", I really haven't heard anyone except Kiwis mention that Biden will probably not last 4 years.

Biden won't last four hours. He's a total cuck anyway, he'll voluntarily step down immediately to give the presidency to the stronk womxn of colors. We're getting Kween Kamala very soon as long as those pesky plebs don't get in the way.

 

[It's HK-47]

Is there truly any point in voting Biden if he's a dementia ridden husk who will just implement what Trump wants but later down the line?

This is exactly why his campaign is functionally as dead as Biden's brain, at this point. Whether his campaign staff realizes it or not--Because Biden isn't making his own decisions-- they're stuck in a death spiral. All of the policies and points that he made earlier in his campaign aren't just being walked back, they're being outright reversed because this is no longer a "sprint to the middle" that you usually see in traditional politics, nevermind the fact that said 'sprint' generally doesn't occur with 60 days left until an election. All of the policies that he was hammering onto the podium were forced to be as far-Left as he could reasonably make them, because he was trying to be the most-Progressive candidate on the stage, as that was the only way the DNC could think to counteract Donald Trump.

They threw all of their chips into the Progressive stack, mistakenly assuming that was their biggest voting bloc, not realizing that Bernie's radical wing of the DNC is actually fairly small and pursuing what that group wants is done to the detriment of all other groups. These policies were all so extreme to the Left side of the field (Free healthcare for illegals, no borders, universal healthcare, green new deal, etc) that even just inching them back isn't enough to bring you in line with the moderates, you need to dump them outright if you want a snowball's chance in Hell of appealing to your sane voters.

But even if you push all of that off to the wayside, his campaign is falling for a completely fatal trap, and I don't know if they even see it: They do whatever Trump tells them to do. Joe Biden says he won't go to Kenosha, so Trump goes to Kenosha, and this forces Joe Biden to go to Kenosha. Donald Trump starts hammering on "Joe Hiden", and his campaign starts pushing him out onto the stage to prove that they're totally not hiding Joe, forgetting that the reason they were hiding him in the first place is that every time that Joe makes an appearance, he rams his foot down his own throat.

If Joe Biden's campaign won't agree to the debates, Trump will just start flapping his arms and making chicken noises, and ten minutes later Joe will get shoved out of his napping chair and onto the debate stage so fast that he won't have time to put his teeth in. Trump says Joe Biden can't jump, and Joe immediately jumps as high as he can to prove Trump's wrong. He has Biden's entire campaign wrapped around his finger and they're too short-sighted and angry to even see that it's happening.

 

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Because Trump killed 170000 Americans with COVID and crashed our economy and is openly racist. That's what my left friends keep telling me.

"Stock market just hit record gains again, the lockdown that is harming the economy is being enforced by state level Democrats, the CDC admitted the 170,000 figure is inflated by nearly two thousand percent, and what, exactly could Trump have done differently? Give specifics."

"FfffFFUCK YOU YOU GODDAMNED FASHIST tRUMP SUPPORTER! REEEEEEEE."

They threw all of their chips into the Progressive stack, mistakenly assuming that was their biggest voting bloc, not realizing that Bernie's radical wing of the DNC is actually fairly small and pursuing what that group wants is done to the detriment of all other groups. These policies were all so extreme to the Left side of the field (Free healthcare for illegals, no borders, universal healthcare, green new deal, etc) that even just inching them back isn't enough to bring you in line with the moderates, you need to dump them outright if you want a snowball's chance in Hell of appealing to your sane voters.

They usually do this to a certain point after the primaries, and definitely after the election, but this is the first time we've ever seen them just outright drop the DSA types and run screaming away from them mid-cycle like this.

Man, I hope someday we get word from the mole in their party about the internal polling. It must be absolutely hilarious.

 

[AGreatDipAtAFairPrice]

Wait, now Joe Biden is going to Kenosha after blubbering about how the President of the United States of America shouldn't have gone there? This Kamala/Biden campaign is devoid of conviction and consistentcy. They cannot say something and stick to it for as little as 2 months. This "campaign" doesn't know if its coming or going or eating its own friggin' tail.