Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[DrunkenDozing]

Honestly, the continued lockdowns must be there to keep a lid on the pot of potential mass unrest. The cops and politicians know BLM and Antifa are too stupid and cowardly to permanently damage major infrastructure, burn down a building or two, sure but you dont see them trying to derail trains or bomb bus stations. They wont go that far. So the elites keep everyday people as locked up as possible to prevent millions from marching, as has happened in the US and Germany. If these marches happen and there is no huge Covid spike, even Joe and Jane Normieson is going to realize that it the lockdowns meant nothing after the curve was flattened. Theyll get even more angry and these people are smarter than your average ghetto trash or educated stupid commie. Business owners and restaurateurs will know who's door to go banging on and they know what to blockade to actually get results. They would surround the mayors house and just never leave until he or she emerges and enacts what the crowd wants them to. Can't have that. Not actual organic dedicated civil unrest. They might just have to do their jobs instead of lecturing on the TV and going boating maskless on weekends.

So they keep extending or ordering more restrictions to keep people thinking that rising up at all against anything is too risky.
"Oh dont worry though, look at these riots! I mean protests, see? You can still get out there and engage in disagreement, your rights arent being eroded, that's nonsense! How could we be in an Orwellian state if BLM is out there right now demanding justice? Everything is normal citizen. Now, get back inside and do not come out if you know what's good for the whole world. You wouldnt want to kill your neighbor's family by proxy would you?"

So people stay locked inside, unaware or unable to fight back against what is going on and buying the fact that if they wanted to make a stand, they could, not realizing that the entire media engine will crucify you for doing so.

It all boils down to the fact that the true high class, the 1%-ers know they fucked up with their indecisiveness and miscommunication over the best practices (I may be wrong here but as far as I am aware Sweden and Taiwan had the best ideas). The governments know mass protests and unrest/refusal to pay taxes is coming and they want to keep it from happening as long as they can so now they are playing the delicate balance game between letting economies reawaken but not letting people get too uppity. Judging by their performance so far, I dont think this balance will last long.

 

[Bender]

I am surprised so many on this site are still very pro-mask.

I'm not pro-mask, I just don't mind having to wear one when I go shopping, I assume most of the users you consider "pro-mask" feel the same.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

There's one of these time if some pro-mask guys practice what they preach and if Corona-chana is still dangerous? https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/09/are_democrats_hiding_the_truth_about_covid.html

https://archive.vn/6BrLx

September 9, 2020
Are Democrats Hiding the Truth about COVID?
By Brian C. Joondeph, M.D.
COVID is not the first viral flu pandemic America has faced, yet the reaction is unprecedented. The entire economy has been shut down for months, some sectors still closed. Elective yet necessary medical care has been postponed leading to excess sickness and death well beyond that caused by the Chinese virus.
Many schools remain closed, as do restaurants, hair salons, and churches. We are forced to keep six feet away from each other at all times and are expected to wear masks, whether outside and alone or inside sharing an intimate moment with a loved one.

Are these rules and restrictions for the public good or are they a means of power and control over the people? The most draconian measures are being pushed by Democrats at the local, state, and national levels. Yet personally they often ignore the mandates they impose on the rest of us.
Do they know more about the dangers, or lack of, than they are letting on? Are they hiding the truth about the Wuhan virus for political reasons? Such as data from a UCLA/Stanford study finding the risk for a 50 to 64 year old of hospitalization is 1 in 790,000 and of death only 1 in 6,670,000. This is not what the media is telling us.
Is this a form of insider trading? A company insider knows of an upcoming announcement, merger, or acquisition that will affect stock price. They buy or sell stock accordingly based on that knowledge that the rest of the market does not yet possess. Such insider trading is unfair, and also illegal, except for members of Congress, who granted themselves an exemption.

It would be one thing if Democrat officials themselves abided by these burdensome diktats that they impose on the hoi polloi. But they don’t. One might call it elitism as in, “Do as I say, not as I do”. Or simply that, “Rules are for little people.”
I think it’s more. These rules are not simply inconveniencing but potentially the difference between life and death, as we are continuously told. For example, masks have become mandatory and those defying have been called murderers.

If masks and distancing were so important, why are Democrat politicians putting themselves, their families and constituents at risk of ending up on a ventilator in an ICU by ignoring their own safety rules? Are these rules for public health or mostly for show? Is the goal to keep Americans from getting sick or to keep the economy shut down, dispiriting working Americans ahead of the November presidential elections in a last ditch effort of preventing President Trump’s reelection?
The examples are myriad. Michigan’s Democrat Governor Gretchen Whitmer marched in a George Floyd protest without regard to social distancing, a rule she happily fined her citizens $1000 for violating. Why wasn’t she afraid of contracting the virus?

Dr Anthony Fauci, the last word on all things COVID, told Americans to wear masks and socially distance else the country would never reopen. Yet at a baseball game in July, he was yucking it up within inches of two friends while wearing his mask under his chin, fearless of catching the Wuhan flu.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi needed a shampoo and “blow out”, scheduling an appointment at a hair salon in her home district. Hair salons in California are considered non-essential businesses and ordered closed by the governor. Yet it was open for Madame Speaker and unfortunately for her, she was caught on video, violating the law of her home state, and she too wasn’t wearing a mask. Wasn’t she worried about catching the Chinese flu?
She said she was “set up” when the only set up was Governor Newsom closing California to influence the upcoming election. Hopefully, Pelosi receives another “blow out” on November 3, becoming House minority leader.

A homeless man in Nashville was arrested in August for not wearing a mask. Was he “set up” too?
Did Pelosi know for certain that her hair stylist or anyone else in the room was not sick or contagious? She is 80 years old and Fauci is 79. According to the CDC, someone that age has an 8 times higher rate of hospitalization and a 220 times higher death rate compared to an 18-29-year-old.
What if she and Dr Fauci are taking prophylactic hydroxychloroquine as President Trump did in May, the same drug Democrats and the media claim will kill anyone who dares take it? Is that why they are so cavalier about flouting the rules they impose on everyone else? Or do they know the virus has run its course and the odds of now catching it and getting sick are quite low? News they are keeping to themselves.

 

[Mrs. Addams]

I'm not pro-mask, I just don't mind having to wear one when I go shopping, I assume most of the users you consider "pro-mask" feel the same.

I think masks are overkill, but I don't mind wearing one indoors on the slight chance that I'm wrong. Outdoors... I'm sorry. Airflow is an obvious thing and I'm not wearing a dumb piece of fabric that overheats you and statistically doesn't stop tiny virus particles anyway.

 

[Driftwood]

I'm not pro-mask, I just don't mind having to wear one when I go shopping, I assume most of the users you consider "pro-mask" feel the same.

I dunno. I have just seen some people really tear into cows over them, like at this point it matters.

If the poster is actually pro-mask, whatever. They are entitled to their opinion.

If they are not and just posting dumb shit to make a cow look worse than they already do just to get stickers and asspats, that is retarded and they are part of the problem.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

I'm not pro-mask, I just don't mind having to wear one when I go shopping, I assume most of the users you consider "pro-mask" feel the same.

I am neither pro or anti mask, if a business i like to frequent or my work demand I wear it I do.

I think it is a god damn joke given that on the boxes that get shipped to stores there are a very large and detailed explanation about how these are not for medical use and do not provide any real protection from getting sick.

I -AM- however very much against governments mandating people wearing it.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

I mentioned last week how our Health Department here in Ohio issued an order that had people losing their minds about FEMA camps, when asked about it last Tuesday DeWine plead ignorance, the Governor finally had an answer this Tuesday and I missed it.

https://twitter.com/GovMikeDeWine/status/1303402415404781568

Which doesn't seem to entirely inaccurate, the order only mentions FEMA in passing. On the other hand, there's this. The order in question.

It is, perhaps, voluntary at the moment, but given DeWine track record on honesty with his statements, I'm going to go with doubt on this one.

Also this. This is why you don't let manlets near power at all. Or, if you're in the state of Ohio, get tested for COVID.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Also this. This is why you don't let manlets near power at all. Or, if you're in the state of Ohio, get tested for COVID.

Totally not totalitarian.

Edit : I was going to edit in a joke about marking people with the Star of David, but quite frankly that would make it LESS fucking scary. Imagine if Hitler had the ability to Flag every jewish person..without that person knowing? If it is in The Vehicle Registration that means there are a ton of other information connected to it.

Imagine if Hitler could have had Jews straight up vanished in the middle of the night without anyone knowing Why.

 

[Ari Gold]

I mentioned last week how our Health Department here in Ohio issued an order that had people losing their minds about FEMA camps, when asked about it last Tuesday DeWine plead ignorance, the Governor finally had an answer this Tuesday and I missed it.

https://twitter.com/GovMikeDeWine/status/1303402415404781568

Which doesn't seem to entirely inaccurate, the order only mentions FEMA in passing. On the other hand, there's this. The order in question.

It is, perhaps, voluntary at the moment, but given DeWine track record on honesty with his statements, I'm going to go with doubt on this one.

Also this. This is why you don't let manlets near power at all. Or, if you're in the state of Ohio, get tested for COVID.

If someone were to hypothetically be setting up FEMA camps where children were going to be separated from their families, why the fuck would they let the citizenry know ahead of time? I really don't understand why people genuinely believe anything that these power-hungry fucks say.

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/mike-dewine/

This guy is regularly talking out of his ass like every other leader in the western world. Yet, we still trust him and his leadership.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

Totally not totalitarian.

Edit : I was going to edit in a joke about marking people with the Star of David, but quite frankly that would make it LESS fucking scary. Imagine if Hitler had the ability to Flag every jewish person..without that person knowing? If it is in The Vehicle Registration that means there are a ton of other information connected to it.

Imagine if Hitler could have had Jews straight up vanished in the middle of the night without anyone knowing Why.

Fortunately it's in Butler County who doesn't have time for this bullshit, but it's disturbing. DeWine's a RINO, but he's a smart RINO. He doesn't plaster it where everyone can see it like that mongrel idiot Kasich, he sneaks it in and then pleads ignorance when called on it. We have one good reporter in the state who asks him hard questions, but he just rolls his eyes and gives non-answers. He and Whitmer topped my short list of governors that might end up getting dragged out of the state capitol by an angry mob, I also suspect that Ohio will be one of the last states to fully open, even though our COVID numbers are and have been damned good. It's why he's resorting to testing waste and sewer water looking for potential outbreaks.

If someone were to hypothetically be setting up FEMA camps where children were going to be separated from their families, why the fuck would they let the citizenry know ahead of time? I really don't understand why people genuinely believe anything that these power-hungry fucks say.

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/mike-dewine/

This guy is regularly talking out of his ass like every other leader in the western world. Yet, we still trust him and his leadership.

The FEMA camp thing is silly, but people jump on it whenever they see FEMA mentioned. I think it was mentioned just to establish authority for using potential federal money to pay state schools for the use of their dorms for quarantine. And also shielding them from liability. The order may have been changed from the last time I looked at it last week, I swear there was a section that stated access to the facilities and whether you could leave were determined by local health officials. They could keep anyone from seeing you. It's why people were freaking out in the first place.

His level of trust has been collapsing rapidly in what should be his voter base, but I don't think he plans on running again.

 

[Dean Pentel]

I'm not pro-mask, I just don't mind having to wear one when I go shopping, I assume most of the users you consider "pro-mask" feel the same.

Plus wearing a mask makes it way easier to shopli...I mean, protest systemic racism.

 

[gangweedfan]

Honestly, the continued lockdowns must be there to keep a lid on the pot of potential mass unrest. The cops and politicians know BLM and Antifa are too stupid and cowardly to permanently damage major infrastructure, burn down a building or two, sure but you dont see them trying to derail trains or bomb bus stations. They wont go that far. So the elites keep everyday people as locked up as possible to prevent millions from marching, as has happened in the US and Germany. If these marches happen and there is no huge Covid spike, even Joe and Jane Normieson is going to realize that it the lockdowns meant nothing after the curve was flattened. Theyll get even more angry and these people are smarter than your average ghetto trash or educated stupid commie. Business owners and restaurateurs will know who's door to go banging on and they know what to blockade to actually get results. They would surround the mayors house and just never leave until he or she emerges and enacts what the crowd wants them to. Can't have that. Not actual organic dedicated civil unrest. They might just have to do their jobs instead of lecturing on the TV and going boating maskless on weekends.

So they keep extending or ordering more restrictions to keep people thinking that rising up at all against anything is too risky.
"Oh dont worry though, look at these riots! I mean protests, see? You can still get out there and engage in disagreement, your rights arent being eroded, that's nonsense! How could we be in an Orwellian state if BLM is out there right now demanding justice? Everything is normal citizen. Now, get back inside and do not come out if you know what's good for the whole world. You wouldnt want to kill your neighbor's family by proxy would you?"

So people stay locked inside, unaware or unable to fight back against what is going on and buying the fact that if they wanted to make a stand, they could, not realizing that the entire media engine will crucify you for doing so.

It all boils down to the fact that the true high class, the 1%-ers know they fucked up with their indecisiveness and miscommunication over the best practices (I may be wrong here but as far as I am aware Sweden and Taiwan had the best ideas). The governments know mass protests and unrest/refusal to pay taxes is coming and they want to keep it from happening as long as they can so now they are playing the delicate balance game between letting economies reawaken but not letting people get too uppity. Judging by their performance so far, I dont think this balance will last long.

I just wish so many people were not passive. most agree the lockdowns are absurd but noone really wants to do anything.

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

I just wish so many people were not passive. most agree the lockdowns are absurd but noone really wants to do anything.

Every time I rant about it to my folks they keep telling me that "We aren't the only ones" and "The silent majority" and so on in regards to having enough of this constant bullshit. But as I keep telling them over and over that that's exactly the problem, that the majority is silent. That exact silence is what has allowed these little dictator wannabes absolute power. There were more than enough chances early on, even midway through, to tell them to fuck off but it's far too late now as most people have been brainwashed into compliance no matter how badly everything falls apart around them. And now any attempts to do something is too strongly opposed and we're stuck in this perpetual toilet swirly of an existence.

I get that the average Joe doesn't want any trouble and will take the path of least resistance if possible, but that type of attitude has proven more costly now than ever before as the public continually bends over and takes every single dicking these monsters give us time and time again.

 

[The handsome tard]

I am surprised so many on this site are still very pro-mask.

You know, I HATE masks, I think they do more harm than good...however, I respect those who choose to use it. What gets into my shit list is when they want to force me and other non believers of "ze mask doctrine" to have it on and then paint us as infidels uneducated morons at best and threats to "security" at worst.

Same applies to vaccines. I dont think these will do anything at best and will be harmful (long term) at worst. But its should be up to the people to decide if they want it or not. I respect those who want it, fine, but they should also respect MY choice to refuse it.
Im tired of the sheer amount of hypocrisy and near cultish behavior around the masks and this whole pandemic as a whole.

His level of trust has been collapsing rapidly in what should be his voter base, but I don't think he plans on running again

Truth be told, most politicians, especially governors and mayors, dont seem to be intending on running again once this shit is over. People wont forget their sheer corruption and incompetence during this whole shitshow (and how they no doubt extended this crap as much as possible).

I think masks are overkill, but I don't mind wearing one indoors on the slight chance that I'm wrong. Outdoors... I'm sorry. Airflow is an obvious thing and I'm not wearing a dumb piece of fabric that overheats you and statistically doesn't stop tiny virus particles anyway.

Tell you what, I read somewhere that if your speedo or shorts cant stop a fart from coming out into the surface, a mask cannot stop a virus from going through. The mask is to prevent shit like moist and other tiny things from the mouth of the doctor from landing into the open hole in the patient's body during surgery (its why they are called...surgical masks)

Im getting more and more cases of people getting infections and breathing related conditions from breathing too much CO2. The media obviously wont report on it but Im starting to wonder how long will it take for people to see that these masks are causing more harm than good? probably never

I am neither pro or anti mask, if a business i like to frequent or my work demand I wear it I do.

I think it is a god damn joke given that on the boxes that get shipped to stores there are a very large and detailed explanation about how these are not for medical use and do not provide any real protection from getting sick.

I -AM- however very much against governments mandating people wearing it.

its like when people use cotton sticks to clean their ears when the box clearly states you are NOT suppose to do that. There is this sense that people truly WANT to believe the masks are necessary, that they havent been made fools out of this entire year. Believe it or not, people would rather believe in a lie than to believe they have been duped. And the longer this goes on, the harder its for them to justify outside of just calling you a dangerous selfish bigot.

At most the masks provide a "psychological" fulfillment, the one you get when you do the laziest bare minimun ever. "All I gotta do is keep this cloth on my face and Im doing my part!" Its literally -

I just wish so many people were not passive. most agree the lockdowns are absurd but noone really wants to do anything.

Bingo. People keep complaining but I dont see anyone doing jackshit about it

Ah, correction, I did see someone trying to organize an anti-lockdown protest...but then she got fucking arrested in her home while her husband and children watched without any sort of proper explanation. That should tell you what they think of these "anti lockdown" sentiments...

I mentioned last week how our Health Department here in Ohio issued an order that had people losing their minds about FEMA camps, when asked about it last Tuesday DeWine plead ignorance, the Governor finally had an answer this Tuesday and I missed it.

https://twitter.com/GovMikeDeWine/status/1303402415404781568

Which doesn't seem to entirely inaccurate, the order only mentions FEMA in passing. On the other hand, there's this. The order in question.

It is, perhaps, voluntary at the moment, but given DeWine track record on honesty with his statements, I'm going to go with doubt on this one.

Also this. This is why you don't let manlets near power at all. Or, if you're in the state of Ohio, get tested for COVID.

Most people in politics are either in it for the money and/or power (usually both), and power is usually achieved through a crisis. Trust me, our politicians are drolling over the power that we are just handling to them. And trust me, power is rarely given back peacefully...it usually has to be tore off this hands through either legal...or "illegal" means.

If someone were to hypothetically be setting up FEMA camps where children were going to be separated from their families, why the fuck would they let the citizenry know ahead of time? I really don't understand why people genuinely believe anything that these power-hungry fucks say.

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/mike-dewine/

This guy is regularly talking out of his ass like every other leader in the western world. Yet, we still trust him and his leadership.

So let me see if I get this straight

The left screams trump separates families on the border, put them in camps (obviously not true) and whatever...but when THEY suggest to start doing just that because of the virus, its suddenly okay?

Im not surprised but man...who in their right state of mind even puts their faith in these maniacs?


Edit: One more meme

 

[Ari Gold]

I just wish so many people were not passive. most agree the lockdowns are absurd but noone really wants to do anything.

What can the individual in the current state of affairs legitimately do? If you dare speak out against them loudly, especially on social media, you are likely to lose you job and your ability to provide for yourself. I think our only hope is in the courts...

https://www.zanesvilletimesrecorder.com/story/news/local/2020/08/24/attorney-sues-health-departments-school-district-over-mask-mandate/3428652001/

Unfortunately, most of the judges are totally okay with the executive having unfettered power in states of emergency. I don't think governors should have that much power and are actually infringing on the legislature.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

At most the masks provide a "psychological" fulfillment

Theatre of Security, it is the exact same thing as The TSA.

No real protection but it makes you FEEL better.

 

[Jarolleon]

Christmas is next, everyone...I said it here first.
They already took out Easter, Christmas has been on their sights ever since.

Edit: I cant wait to hear the clapping seals over them "owning" Halloween and how "Christmas is next, just you wait, racists!". Way to stand up for the holiday that was responsible for most people's foundest memories, assholes.

Edit 2: Im sorry but I dont think I will be able to survive the horror and cringe of seeing images of Santa wearing a mask, which no doubt will be everywhere this year...


Cuz they be despered to have any sort of sense of superiority over Trump, especially with the election coming and him losing looking more and more unlikely.

"Lol stop getting so hung up on perceived symbolism. It's not that hard, the only reason COVID is still around is because of idiots like you. "-Some NPC, probably.

 

[CeleryStalks]

Michigan, USA

Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D) has finally allowed gyms and most other places to reopen, under some conditions. Most high school sports may resume, ditto.
"The new order states that a face covering must be worn at all times by athletes, unless they can maintain 6 feet of social distance.
So those in football, soccer and volleyball -- sports that just returned this week -- will need to wear face coverings at all times. Cross country, golf and tennis can go without masks, if they can stay apart. Swimmers are the only exception to any coverings."

Gov. Whitmer: Football players, other athletes must mask up, even while competing

Executive Order 180 requires face coverings for all high school athletes unable to maintain 6 feet of social distance.

www.mlive.com

There are, of course, outbreaks being reported at colleges and K-12 schools, but our death rate remains at 4-6 daily in the Detroit tri-counties and 4-6 in the rest of the state combined.

"Staff in the University of Michigan’s residence halls are on strike due to what they say is a lack of coronavirus health protections for workers."

Residence hall staff on strike at University of Michigan, demand more coronavirus protections

The strike began at 9 p.m. Tuesday, Sept. 8.

www.mlive.com

The State Supreme Court has heard arguments on one of the many lawsuits over Governor Whitmer's emergency powers. This lawsuit is "from the Mackinac Center Legal Foundation on behalf of West Michigan medical providers and a patient who argued Whitmer orders blocking non-essential medical services and other activity after April 30 were unconstitutional."

Future of Whitmer’s coronavirus emergency powers debated in Michigan Supreme Court

Challenges to Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s use of emergency powers during the COVID-19 pandemic were argued for nearly four hours in the Michigan Supreme Court Wednesday.

www.mlive.com

A personal opinion: There's something to be said for the big plastic visors instead of facemasks, just because I can see a person's entire face that way.

 

[Aib Ld]

There's a bunch of fairs/carnivals around Georgia. And of course, bunch of state governors trying to extend the lockdowns despite cases dropping are not happy about them opening and are very vocal on them to close. The fact that there's a sheer number of people (and without masks) in the carnivals for 5-6 days pretty much tells that people here knows the Wuflu isn't worth shit to other people than the elderly.

 

[Return of the Freaker]

Yeah, I wanted to go to Rocky Mountain Ntl Park about two weeks ago. Two days before I go, I hear about the reservations. They were totally booked, and I couldn't enter the park. I was able to go hiking nearby, but I still can't believe it. They've taken EVERYTHING away from us. And now they are trying to take the outdoors? GTFO.

Looked at Cuyahoga Valley NP. Apparently they aren't doing reservations but they had some retarded notice about only walking loop trails in one direction. Fucking lol Cleveland Metroparks aren't that autistic