2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[JohnDoe]

Im afraid that the Dems already have made their minds up: In the event of a Trump victory, they will just label it as a Biden victory that Trump refuses to acknowledge.

Worse than that, they want to arrange a 'color revolution' where no matter what happens, Trump has to leave. Maybe even under the auspices of an attempted military coup. It's some legitimately frightening stuff, since the anti-Trump faction is willing to subvert every institution and destroy any semblance of democracy to gain and maintain power.

 

[heyitsmike]

Worse than that, they want to arrange a 'color revolution' where no matter what happens, Trump has to leave. Maybe even under the auspices of an attempted military coup. It's some legitimately frightening stuff, since the anti-Trump faction is willing to subvert every institution and destroy any semblance of democracy to gain and maintain power.

Military coup? Whose military? The US's? Lol.

 

[JohnDoe]

Military coup? Whose military? The US's? Lol.

Obama promoted a lot of TDS zombies, so some officers might try to strongarm Trump. God willing we will be spared such a scenario where senior military officers betray our CIC, but if it comes to pass we have to pray the lower officers and enlisted will pull an old Vietnam-era trick and toss a frag in the officers latrine.

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition indeed.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

Somehow I think that unlike Bush / Bush2, Trump actually went against the system so he'll never be allowed into the good boy's clubhouse to hang out with Ellen.

My sincere hope is that Trump finishes his term and starts raising a hundred assholes just like him. He could teach classes in shitposting.

Age is against him too there. Bush Sr and Jr were both out of office before they turned 70, while Trump will be 74 if he loses and 78 if he wins. He probably won't have that much of a retirement to be rehabilitated by the people who used to hate him.

 

[heyitsmike]

Obama promoted a lot of TDS zombies, so some officers might try to strongarm Trump. God willing we will be spared such a scenario where senior military officers betray our CIC, but if it comes to pass we have to pray the lower officers and enlisted will pull an old Vietnam-era trick and toss a frag in the officers latrine.

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition indeed.

Were/are you in the military?

 

[JohnDoe]

Were/are you in the military?

Read the rules.

⚠ Hide your powerlevel. Avoid revealing intimate, personal details about yourself in public boards.

 

[Syaoran Li]

Im afraid that the Dems already have made their minds up: In the event of a Trump victory, they will just label it as a Biden victory that Trump refuses to acknowledge.

I think The Squad style of Democrats will probably do something like that but if the bigwigs and the neoliberal wing in general try that shit, it'll be a hard sell unless Trump loses the popular vote a second time. If Trump can get both an electoral victory and a popular victory, then they'll have no choice but to begrudgingly concede defeat and make plans for the next four years to try and sabotage Trump and make gains for 2022 and 2024.

Biden's enough of a dud that he'll likely get at least part of the blame for a scenario where Trump gets four more years and a popular vote victory, plus there's the whole Antifa/BLM/DSA/Bernie Bro scapegoat angle they can use as well.

Worse than that, they want to arrange a 'color revolution' where no matter what happens, Trump has to leave. Maybe even under the auspices of an attempted military coup. It's some legitimately frightening stuff, since the anti-Trump faction is willing to subvert every institution and destroy any semblance of democracy to gain and maintain power.

It's possible and I think the diehard leftists like The Squad and groups like BLM, the Antifa gangs, and the DSA will see this as a color revolution but the old guard neoliberal corporatists would be a lot more likely to purge those true believers to prevent their heads from being on the chopping block as well and instead try to focus on gaining more ground in Congress to try and stonewall the Republicans and Trump for another four years

 

[CivilianOfTheFandomWars]

I'll be real, it feels like the last five years has been a really long election year.

 

[heyitsmike]

Read the rules.

Really?

Really?

It's a rhetorical question anyway. I know the answer. You've never served a day in the military. They are only people who ever float the possibility of a military coup.

You and everyone else involved will go to Leavenworth for the rest of your life if it fails and it will fail unless you have the support of every single O-6 and above and their commands from every branch of the military.

There's a reason military coups and mutinies don't happen in the US. There's too many people you have to get onboard with it and the military is way to large to be able to do it. And everyone you would need to get onboard with it knows that.

 

[JohnDoe]

Really?

It's a rhetorical question anyway. I know the answer.

Usually a rhetorical question is followed by the point, not a genuine opportunity for answer like a sincere question. You could have just posted your inane ramblings without the preamble, like a non-autist. Anyway, go spin your theories to the Democrats who seem to be considering the idea.

They're probably big Tom Clancy fans like you are.

 

[heyitsmike]

They're probably big Tom Clancy fans like you are.

The only people who think military coups are feasible in the US are the people whose sole knowledge of the military are books by Tom Clancy.

 

[IsaacShraeder]

As a non-american I'm getting more and more confused about the validity of polls. /pol/ of course is quick to point out just how wrong most predictions turned out to be in 2016
(when they're not busy calling Trump a zionist shill), but from others I've heard that the polls weren't actually that far off, and that Trump's victories in the swing states were all within their margins of error.

 

[Cubanodun]

Here the commies are already admitting that Trump is going to win but preparing themselves in a scenario where Biden somehow get the presidency because they believe is going to be more easy to negotiate with him the removal of the sanctions, but in my group of whatsapp (mostly people kicked for political parties) we reached the conclusion that we are not seeing the same level of energy from the democrats like they had 4 years ago, there is not a single outa of enthusiasm for Biden, is more like he was chosen because the people that bankroll the party did not want a diversity candidate but one that probably has some kind of chance to win and because the other options were toxic, commies, lunatics and loons to weak to oppose the will of the party, and the fact that some of them support literally murderers and looters is like a big no no

As a non-american I'm getting more and more confused about the validity of polls. /pol/ of course is quick to point out just how wrong most predictions turned out to be in 2016
(when they're not busy calling Trump a zionist shill), but from others I've heard that the polls weren't actually that far off, and that Trump's victories in the swing states were all within their margins of error.

The validity is 0% mostly in the side of Trump, his supporters refuse to say publicly or in any way their affiliation for fear to being cancelled so there is no way to obtain reliable data, but i can tell, they are absolute loving the lunatics losing their mind and want 4 more years of Trump just to see the new show, the Democratic party is now a circus and Trump is their master, they should tone down their lunacy because only Trump know what is going to happen to them after he doesnt have to care about a reelection

 

[MrJokerRager]

Obama promoted a lot of TDS zombies, so some officers might try to strongarm Trump. God willing we will be spared such a scenario where senior military officers betray our CIC, but if it comes to pass we have to pray the lower officers and enlisted will pull an old Vietnam-era trick and toss a frag in the officers latrine.

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition indeed.

The time to strong-arm Trump would have been when Assad was accused of "gassing innocent rebels" . If they could not get their forever war, they will fail at this and now it's in public conscienceness about the military leaders making bank off these wars.

 

[BeboRefugee]

I remember when Al Franken got elected and it was after a bunch of absentee ballots were discovered, and I thought then it was super fishy. Nothing ever came of it though...until Franken got #MeToo'd and sunk his own career, lol.

All I'll say is that if Trump wins huge on election night and then mail in ballots come in and swing it the other way (which some media outlets are already predicting), it is going to look super suspicious, and it'll cause a shit show.

I also remember the Dems pushing mail in ballots really hard 4 years ago too. Around where I live, people were in my face constantly telling me to mail in my ballot and I was like "Um...I'm going to go in person" and they said that it was "too big a risk" to do it the conventional way, whatever the hell that means.

Thing is, even if the mail-in ballots flip the election, and Biden wins fair and square without even a whiff of ratfucking... the whole drama proves why mail-in voting is a terrible fucking idea. If the results aren't in within 12 hours of polls closing, the public start getting antsy. Forget Russian bots, if voters think their ballots won't even get counted (or worse, get turfed out in favour of fake ones by party riggers) then faith in democracy is irreperably damaged.
If Trump's up 4 points in Pennsylvania and Michigan at 4am in November 4th and makes a victory speech, who are we to disagree with that?
For mail-in ballots to come in and, for whatever reason, have to get counted over several agonizing days, not only does it look fishy as fuck when the votes trend 2:1 for the alleged loser at the time, but if you were gonna cheat, now you know exactly how many ballots to stuff to get over the line. I can't think of any high-profile mail-in voting delays where said votes went and reinforced a candidate's existing lead and not erode it.
There are plenty of districts within individual states who vote near-unanimously for one party or another, but to tell the country to pause everything to count fucks that couldn't bother wandering into a voting booth on the day? Who by some coincidence, held a preference so distinct from the majority who voted in person?
Madness.

 

[King Daddy Telomerase]

As a non-american I'm getting more and more confused about the validity of polls. /pol/ of course is quick to point out just how wrong most predictions turned out to be in 2016
(when they're not busy calling Trump a zionist shill), but from others I've heard that the polls weren't actually that far off, and that Trump's victories in the swing states were all within their margins of error.

Polls from November on weren't far off, except for the Great Lakes states which are very difficult to poll due to reaching rural areas. Before that though, they were filled with Clinton +11s and ridiculous weighting. Of course, pollsters will laud how close they were in the end and polls from 2 months earlier which were laughably wrong are irrelevant.

We've still got 6 weeks of polls being meaningless filler.

 

[RockPaper]

Polls from November on weren't far off, except for the Great Lakes states which are very difficult to poll due to reaching rural areas. Before that though, they were filled with Clinton +11s and ridiculous weighting. Of course, pollsters will laud how close they were in the end and polls from 2 months earlier which were laughably wrong are irrelevant.

We've still got 6 weeks of polls being meaningless filler.

Yep. It's an old cliche, but if you want to know what the real polls are saying, look at what states the candidates are spending time and money in.

 

[break these cuffs]

The only people who think military coups are feasible in the US are the people whose sole knowledge of the military are books by Tom Clancy.

I don't think you should mess with him. He was probably a secret squirrel oper8or judging by his furry avatar.

The time to strong-arm Trump would have been when Assad was accused of "gassing innocent rebels" . If they could not get their forever war, they will fail at this and now it's in public conscienceness about the military leaders making bank off these wars.

It's in the military's consciousness as well and has been in the Marine Corps for a long time. One of the great Marines you learn about in boot is Smedley Butler. He was an old badass motherfucker and multiple Medal of Honor award winner. You don't learn much more than that, but plenty of Marines are interested in history. There are a other a couple other things Butler is well known for besides being a badass war hero. One is a short book, based on a speech he delivered on a speaking tour in 1930, entitled War is a Racket that was as an expose of current state of the military Industrial Complex at the time. The other is that he came forward about what was dubbed The Business Plot. Butler alleges that he was approached to help create and lead an organization of veterans in an attempt to overthrow the government and install a fascist regime. This was roundly dismissed at the time, but evidence provided to the resulting congressional inquiry that resulted did establish at least some of what Butler said was true. There is at least one Marine in every line company who is more than happy to talk about this stuff.

It doesn't take much to convince a grunt who is lining the bottom of his gun truck with expired kevlar vests donated by departments back home that the trillions of dollars in the defense budget are not being spent wisely and that the whole system is corrupt as shit. Add to into the the understanding that the war is being run retarded as fuck and you get a lot more guys critical of it than a civilian would think. Mutinies and intentional blue on blue violence are not relics out of the Vietnam war era. Open rebellion in the ranks isn't going to occur when the mission is to go to a foreign land and attack a perceived enemy, but it changing that mission to American soil would make things get rough real fucking quick.

 

[CrippleThreat]

Poll: Biden maintains nearly double-digit national lead over Trump
(archive)

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden has maintained a nearly double-digit national lead over President Donald Trump among registered voters since last month, according to a new survey — with the major-party nominating conventions and damaging reports of Trump’s remarks about the military apparently leaving little imprint on the White House race.

A Monmouth University poll released Thursday reports that more than half of registered voters nationwide — 51 percent — prefer Biden, while 42 percent favor Trump. Biden’s 9-point edge comes after he notched a similar 10-point advantage over Trump, 51-41 percent, in the previous pre-convention version of the poll, conducted in early August.

The latest Monmouth survey also shows Biden with a high-single-digit lead of 7 points among likely voters, 51 percent of whom back the former vice president and 44 percent of whom support the Republican incumbent.

The poll was conducted in the days immediately following reports by The Atlantic and other media outlets of the president disparaging U.S. service members and America’s war dead. Trump allegedly said a burial ground for fallen Marines was “filled with losers,” believed captured soldiers missing in action “had performed poorly and … deserved what they got,” and opposed the inclusion of wounded veterans such as amputees at a military parade.

The president and a cast of current and former administration officials have denied he made such remarks, while Biden called the reports “absolutely damnable,” saying: “I’ve just never been as disappointed in my whole career with a leader that I’ve worked with, president or otherwise.”
Of the registered voters surveyed by Monmouth, 71 percent said Biden respects our military troops and veterans a great deal (48 percent) or some (23 percent). Just over half of registered voters — 55 percent — said Trump respects our military troops and veterans a great deal (41 percent) or some (14 percent).

The Monmouth University poll was conducted Sept. 3-8, surveying 758 registered voters with a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.6 percentage points.

Trump is finished, boys. This D+∞ is too much. Why hasn't Uomo Arancione resigned yet? God bless Warren G. Biden, master of the many polls and bringer of normalcy!

 

[Aidan]

I don't think you should mess with him. He was probably a secret squirrel oper8or judging by his furry avatar.

It's in the military's consciousness as well and has been in the Marine Corps for a long time. One of the great Marines you learn about in boot is Smedley Butler. He was an old badass motherfucker and multiple Medal of Honor award winner. You don't learn much more than that, but plenty of Marines are interested in history. There are a other a couple other things Butler is well known for besides being a badass war hero. One is a short book, based on a speech he delivered on a speaking tour in 1930, entitled War is a Racket that was as an expose of current state of the military Industrial Complex at the time. The other is that he came forward about what was dubbed The Business Plot. Butler alleges that he was approached to help create and lead an organization of veterans in an attempt to overthrow the government and install a fascist regime. This was roundly dismissed at the time, but evidence provided to the resulting congressional inquiry that resulted did establish at least some of what Butler said was true. There is at least one Marine in every line company who is more than happy to talk about this stuff.

It doesn't take much to convince a grunt who is lining the bottom of his gun truck with expired kevlar vests donated by departments back home that the trillions of dollars in the defense budget are not being spent wisely and that the whole system is corrupt as shit. Add to into the the understanding that the war is being run retarded as fuck and you get a lot more guys critical of it than a civilian would think. Mutinies and intentional blue on blue violence are not relics out of the Vietnam war era. Open rebellion in the ranks isn't going to occur when the mission is to go to a foreign land and attack a perceived enemy, but it changing that mission to American soil would make things get rough real fucking quick.

Smedley Butler is underrated and conveniently forgotten; his death a tragedy.
His wikipedia page is a good first step into his post-service controversies. If only there was a modern general willing to call out the MIC for what it is.