Netflix's "Cuties" - The Preteen Sexual Objectification Equivalent of "Funny Games"

[tigergrinder]

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Lol then come over here and put it out with your soy tears

 

[Salubrious]

I really feel like the far-left underestimates normies hated of child exploitation.

I know it works on Twitter to call people alt-right bigots for not agreeing with you. But normies don't give a fuck. You call a normie an alt-right bigot for not condoning child explotation and the normies will just roll their eyes and think you're the crazy one.

That's the problem with the Twitter bubble. People bend the knee on Twitter because "they have to". Normies don't give a fuck; they'll just be like "ok I guess I'm alt-right now if it means being anti-pedophilia."

 

[tigergrinder]

Can we utilize the word "pedophile" as a counter to "Nazi"?

 

[BrunoMattei]

Reminds me of a story about Roman Polanski(?) filming a minor taking a bath and one of the skeleton crew(nude scenes) asked about how it fit into the movie and got the answer that it's not part of the movie.

The idea and concept of Cuties could be good if done in the right way or approached in a different way.
Here's two different approaches to something with two vastly different results.
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Which Polanski movie? I would guess it's "What?" or the one with Nastaja Kinski (who dated him when she was about 14 or so).

There's also Larry Clark's Kids and things like that. I don't think they're quite comparable although there's some questionable shit there. Still, you really have to go back to Pretty Baby for worse. While I don't think Louis Malle took much flak as he had a pretty creditable history of not just being some predatory weirdo as well as artistic merit, and he was certainly not prosecuted, the consensus was ultimately that whether or not he could have done that, probably he shouldn't have. Nobody did quite that again.

Difference is that Kids and the followup Ken Park have actors that are of age. Fetishy? Sure. But legal. Harmony Korine's Gummo has a scene with a fully clothed underage girl with two topless adult women which would technically CP but it gets murkier with shit like that. Gummo is a great film BTW. As is Kids but Ken Park just felt like the director wanted to shoot a porn.

 

[TrippinKahlua]

I've been following this thread since the day it opened, but I truly did not want to post in here, or make any point because this truly shouldn't be debatable.

But now that its hit the mainstream more, I decided to at least listen to critics and reviewers and analysts.

This. Is. Sin.

Sorry, but as a believer, I officially declare this the final end times. A child BLOWING UP A CONDOM.

These are NOT images that should be so freely available.

This is the point about the backlash. You can cry "Its a critique over the sexualizing of children" all you want, but it's the simple imagery alone that is the problem. Any netflix subber can freeze frame anything easily. And one of these images will now be an 11 year old girls fucking raisins, and I cant even believe I'm acknowledging that to begin with.

The only reason I'm not getting rid of Netflix in my apartment is because it's not my account, I dont pay for it, and besides it's the only legal way I can watch my favorite 90s show.

Isnt Barack Obama an Executive at Netflix? I hope he gets in big trouble for endorsing this. This is gonna get big if more politicians from both sides keep rearing this.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Isnt Barack Obama an Executive at Netflix? I hope he gets in big trouble for endorsing this.

I dunno if he is an executive but he has a deal with them. It does put him sending his daughter to Intern with Weinstien in a new light though.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

I hate that you can’t make a simple statement of “hey, the stuff is this movie is pretty creepy” without it become some kind of massive political statement.

 

[Technetium]

Babylon Bee dabbing on 'em

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Responding To Backlash, Netflix Clarifies Its Content Is 'Mostly Pedophilia-Free'

LOS GATOS, CA—Responding to the backlash over the worse-than-you-could-have-ever-imagined film Cuties added to its library this week, Netflix clarified that its content is "mostly not pedophilia.""It's important to remember that our content is mostly pedophilia-free," the Netflix Twitter account...

babylonbee.com

They've been consistently hilarious over the last couple years, I love it.

lol also notice how they specifically used the number 93%, in reference to the recent study that said 93% of the BLM protests were peaceful.

EDIT - ninja'd (kinda) by a dim-wit.

 

[Salubrious]

I hate that you can’t make a simple statement of “hey, the stuff is this movie is pretty creepy” without it become some kind of massive political statement.

Because to these people, EVERYTHING IS a political statement. In fact, they say that making something not a political statement is white privilege.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Because to these people, EVERYTHING IS a political statement. In fact, they say that making something not a political statement is white privilege.

Yep these idiots believe everything is political even children’s shows showing cops as good guys

 

[I can't imagine]

I hate that you can’t make a simple statement of “hey, the stuff is this movie is pretty creepy” without it become some kind of massive political statement.

Is it really a massive political statement? I don't know anyone IRL who's going out of their way to defend this, and, rest assured, they aren't all hardcore MAGA types. Literally every parent I know, if not outright offended by it, is actively disinterested in even looking at the film. Even the 40 year old white women with the pro-BLM Facebook posts.

Fuck, even Reddit is turning against the movie, and they're hardly a bastion of right-leaning thought.

 

[Sage In All Fields]

I really feel like the far-left underestimates normies hated of child exploitation.
[...] You call a normie an alt-right bigot for not condoning child explotation and the normies will just roll their eyes and think you're the crazy one.

I think you're underestimating it too, if you call a normie an alt-right bigot for not condoning child exploitation they're not going to reason with you, they're literally just going to beat the shit out of you.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Is it really a massive political statement? I don't know anyone IRL who's going out of their way to defend this, and, rest assured, they aren't all hardcore MAGA types. Literally every parent I know, if not outright offended by it, is actively disinterested in even looking at the film. Even the 40 year old white women with the pro-BLM Facebook posts.

Fuck, even Reddit is turning against the movie, and they're hardly a bastion of right-leaning thought.

I’ve seen people claiming that only leftists are defending it because they’re pedos, I’ve seen people claim that only the alt-right hates it for fake outrage....it’s ridiculous.

 

[CWCissey]

Roman was framed, thats well known by now... also it was a photoshot in the pool of the only good joker.
so should we only watch the bad batman movies now?

Mark Hamill had a pool?

 

[Table Country]

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Look at that ratio.

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Fuck this degenerate kike.

I think my unironic favorite part of the review is when he goes "look at the blonde one". If I had a radio show or a podcast, I'd definitely turn that into a soundbyte.

 

[Stoneheart]

Mark Hamill had a pool?

you are gay and classless and you should kill yourself....

 

[Doctor of Autism]

I’ve seen people claiming that only leftists are defending it because they’re pedos, I’ve seen people claim that only the alt-right hates it for fake outrage....it’s ridiculous.

Well it's more of the lunatics like Moviebob and the rest of Neoliberal Twitter. It's really only people who are left leaning and are obsessed with twitter defending along with the occasional pedo

 

[Secret Asshole]

Which Polanski movie? I would guess it's "What?" or the one with Nastaja Kinski (who dated him when she was about 14 or so).




Difference is that Kids and the followup Ken Park have actors that are of age. Fetishy? Sure. But legal. Harmony Korine's Gummo has a scene with a fully clothed underage girl with two topless adult women which would technically CP but it gets murkier with shit like that. Gummo is a great film BTW. As is Kids but Ken Park just felt like the director wanted to shoot a porn.

Ken Park was during that weird period of cinema where everyone was trying to get a full penetration shot into film. There was this push in the mid-late auts where John Waters and other avant garde filmmakers wanted to get one in. I'm not sure if Ken Park was part of that or just overly excessive.

“The backlash to Cuties is just like GloomerGoot!”



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Arthur Chu is physically fucking repulsive, disgusting and hated by everyone who knows him. He neglects his wife for social media, his family thinks he's a complete loser and failure. The only validation he has is Twitter. If his Twitter account was shut off, he'd jump off a bridge because he literally has nothing else.

MovieBlob is quite literally a mentally retarded man who hasn't left the 9th grade. His concepts, politics and ideologies are all at or below the high-school level. He is not autistic, he is a learning disabled retard who cannot possible think anything complicated than the people who bullied him. He is permanently stuck at a 9th grade level and is extraordinarily fucking pathetic.

They're running into some of the same problems as the Onion, i.e. people don't recognize it as parody because it is hard to be more over the top fucking retarded than reality currently is.



There's also Larry Clark's Kids and things like that. I don't think they're quite comparable although there's some questionable shit there. Still, you really have to go back to Pretty Baby for worse. While I don't think Louis Malle took much flak as he had a pretty creditable history of not just being some predatory weirdo as well as artistic merit, and he was certainly not prosecuted, the consensus was ultimately that whether or not he could have done that, probably he shouldn't have. Nobody did quite that again.

Kids is sexual, but it doesn't sexualize kids. If that makes sense. It is portrayed as a definite cautionary tale and nowhere near positive. Its almost like a literal living hell. Kids came very close and they were mostly 14-15 years old. Also Kids wasn't meant to be pedo-bait at all, sort of this take on the degeneration of youth in the age of HIV. There's nothing remotely masturbatory in Kids and its a dark, dreary, disturbing film. There is absolutely nothing sex-positive in that film regarding teens. Its quite the opposite, it explores basically the emptiness of it. It is quite literally, teen sexuality without thoughts of consequence in the age of HIV. It was made in 1995, so the paradigm was shifting and a lot of people still hid behind the moral panic, so a lot of filmmakers felt they needed to slap the audience awake to what it meant to be. Kids were having unsafe sex, emotionally repressed, and basically put in this sort of hellscape of hormones with little guidance and no concept of consent.

Bell Hooks went in thinking it would be liberating, but she found it a conservative film, fucking lol. Anita's feminist icon, found KIDS to be a conservative film. Also in those days, you would catch a ton of shit for vilifying HIV and encouraging safe sex. Even among the straight and gay communities. The fact that Kids basically promotes the message 'yeah, youth are living in a consequence free hell that will fuck them for the rest of their lives. We really need to pay more attention'. Yeah, someone called a fucking Larry Clark film 'conservative'. This shit has been going on for decades. Feminists love pedophilia and kids fucking guilt free for some fucking reason, I have no idea why.

The difference between Kids and Cuties is two fold: Kids is shot on real film, and has a very gritty feel. It is NOT pretty. It is sheathed in darkness, with the contrast of colors expressed. So everything looks darker than it should. The film grain gives it a much gritter feel. A lot of the film has almost little to no light, even in daytime scenes. And when it does have it, the light is over-exposed. There's nothing that feels 'right'. It uses light to support its dour tone. When Chloe Sevigney goes to the clinic to get an HIV test, its in the morning, but it might as well be 6 PM with the way its lit and shot, in this jaundiced light. It is meant to make you feel this omnipresent layer of dread and discomfort. That these Kids live in this purgatory for which no one will deliver them out of. The way they value sex over intimacy is NOT celebrated as is not the destruction of their innocence.

I'm not going to say that he's without deserving of criticism, but Kids is certainly not fucking jerk-off material. Also, a lot of Larry Clark's films have characters that are supposed to be young teens, but they're portrayed by actors in their late-teens, early twenties. Kids is an exception to that, which was basically his first film. So he was probably like 'Should not have done that'. So he still went on to make films with similar themes and characters of young age, but used older actors. And as far as I remember, there's no nudity in Kids and its really an uncomfortable film that reflects the era it was made in. I mean, if you can masturbate to the film Kids, you're seriously fucked in the head.

Cuties on the other hand, from what clips I'm seeing of it, has bright, vibrant colors and is written in an uplifting sort of tone. The Muslim girl is viewed as being 'freed' and the over-sexualization is not portrayed competently in a cinematographic or tonal style. A lot of it is played straight or played up for laughs. Kids served a purpose. Everyone was turning a blind eye to what teens were doing in the age of HIV. Of how they experienced things. No one wanted to confront it. And Clark, to his credit, did. It was fucking uncomfortable. He made it uncomfortable, because OF COURSE HE WOULD. It isn't a fucking comforting topic. Cuties is made to be as comfortable and as un-challenging as possible. If it was shot like Kids or Requiem for a Dream, this absolutely disturbing, uncomfortable mess that confused children can find themselves in, I might, MIGHT be able to understand why it was made.

As of now, its a disgusting pedophile bait film that is fucking terrible. If your goal is 'Children are sexually exploited by modern society', you look up prior films that have done such things. This cunt didn't do a single fucking thing like that. I've seen Larry Clark films. I know what that looks like. And it isn't bright and shiny and celebratory. She made this film and then went in the editing room and went "OH FUCK UH UH INSERT SOME MESSAGE ABOUT SEXUALIZING LITTLE GIRLS BAD. WE'VE GOT LIKE 15 MINUTES OF IT? THANK FUCK."

So no. I don't believe for a fucking second this had that message. It was made to be viewed as empowering and then the director and editor realized how badly they fucked up and inserted some half-baked, trash message in at the last second. Fuck this piece of shit film.

Bell Hooks would have loved it.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

MovieBlob is quite literally a mentally retarded man who hasn't left the 9th grade. His concepts, politics and ideologies are all at or below the high-school level. He is not autistic, he is a learning disabled retard who cannot possible think anything complicated than the people who bullied him. He is permanently stuck at a 9th grade level and is extraordinarily fucking pathetic.

That is a god damn insult to 9th graders.

 

[Lensherr]

Let Neptune strike ye dead Netflix!

Hark Triton, hark! Bellow, bid our father the Sea King rise from the depths full foul in his fury! Black waves teeming with salt foam to smother this young mouth with pungent slime, to choke ye, engorging your organs til' ye turn blue and bloated with bilge and brine and can scream no more - only when he, crowned in cockle shells with slitherin' tentacle tail and steaming beard take up his fell be-finned arm, his coral-tine trident screeches banshee-like in the tempest and plunges right through yer gullet, bursting ye - a bulging bladder no more, but a blasted bloody film now and nothing for the harpies and the souls of dead sailors to peck and claw and feed upon only to be lapped up and swallowed by the infinite waters of the Dread Emperor himself - forgotten to any man, to any time, forgotten to any god or devil, forgotten even to the sea, for any stuff for part of Netflix, even any scantling of your soul is Netflix no more, but is now itself the sea!