2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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If Biden supporters are so de-motivated, where are the predictions of 150 million voters coming from?
Shouldn't turnout be down down down? Say what you will for McCainn, Kerry and Romney. For good loser stooges, they at least went out and campaigned. Biden meanwhile has millions upon millions who went out to vote for Hillary but literally haven't heard a word from him all summer, so will hardly be going out to vote at all, let alone for him.

I guess what I'm really asking, is why does America even bother with election cycles like this? So much free literature about the candidates, 18 months of solid coverage. Firstly of campaign announcements, then primaries, then for the main election. All this drumming up, totally consuming the media cycle, even being covered extensively overseas, and for what? Why bother if a candidate fucks off outta the picture but gets 60 million votes for free regardless?

Because it builds your profile. Then you can write a book, get a reality TV show, or run again next time and actually win
 
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Trump is very enthusiastic about the debates.


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Hahaha. Cue the hackneyed old"Refuse to give a platform to hate" copouts
TBH I'd rather see ence destroy Slaver Kamala.

Then once that happens, all Trump has to do is sit down with Rogan for a 1 hour interview, and he wins again.

For as much as I like both guys, Rogan won't dig in to the topics to a degree that Trump would be out of his depth. And they're both showbiz people, they know how to put on an entertaining show.
 
I am not sure that Rogan would be a very good debate moderator. All you'd have to do is bring up DMT and he'd change topics quick

True, but I don't think Biden even knows what DMT is. Not sure if Trump would either, given he's from the same generation where the main hallucinogens were just LSD and shrooms. Maybe PCP if you lived in specific parts of the country.

If Rogan was the moderator of a VP debate, he would probably stack the deck against Kamala with her infamous prosecution record and Rogan being one of the patron saints of stoners along with Woody Harrelson and Willie Nelson.
 
I'm calling bullshit too. Ain't no fucking way Biden is winning Duval by 10, Escambia at all or only losing Marion by 5.

Ain't. No. Way.
Not to mention, the Democrats were humiliated by "the next Obama" getting caught in a hilariously straightforward gay-meth-hooker scandal. I guarantee you some Republican strategist has a general anti-dem ad ready to make them look like a joke. I think you'll see it released in early October. Plus, black turnout will probably be way down from 2016 and 2020. If the ad exists, it'll depress it locally even further. No black church is going to like associating with the party of PNP.

your mostly on the money but I have 2 things i'd argue:

3) Your right on w/ legal latinos, but remember that illegal voting from illegals is a constant, as even if it isn't a talking point, their biggest priority is their lives and do not want to be sent back to mexico unless they are grabbing more cocaine. They heavily outnumber any legal vote trump really gets from latinos, so keep it in mind.

6b) Turning point and the neocon republicans always try to push this. Should blacks be repub? Probably. Will they EVER? No, the black vote will never sway enough to make a difference for the same reason many people quit their jobs at the start of covid: "It pays more to not work with our nice social programs".
Trump doesn't need to flip people, just have them sit out. Biden can't even rally enough people to beat Chick-fil-a cow day.

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Anyone want to check this BS they are peddling? I know for PA, FL, NH, and MN have Republicans way up in registration while only Pedofornia is extremely high for Dem. Others seem to be leaning R or are relatively stable. Is it a (((poll)))?
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Registration is easy to change, and as far as I know comes from only internal party sources.

Look at gun purchases instead. A regular handgun can easily cost 500 dollars. It has a fairly high barrier of entry to purchase. It is also a very party-defining policy:
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Don't know the source for the pic, but I believe it.

Gun sales aren't just increasing: they're skyrocketing. . I bought two rifles at a show recently, and couldn't get them because background checks were 24+ hours. The store I got them from said they normally have 10 come through each year. This year was 73. We are set to pass last year's total gun sales soon, which itself was the highest sales ever.

A Republican buying guns doesn't nessicarily reveal anything about their outlook. A Democrat, on the other hand, is a sign of low confidence and loyalty to their party. If a Democrat is willing to spend $500 on an issue that goes against their party's goal on a fundamental level, how supportive of their party are they really? Worse, if they're willing to spend $500, how likely are they to support a party trying to take away their new gun? That's a hell of a lot of money to waste on a lark, especially during a major economic disruption.

I guarantee you every democratic strategist is shitting their pants whenever this comes up. They've been very quiet about guns this year (with the exception of Beto). They know this is toxic to them, like anti-gay marriage became to Republicans in the mid-2010's. However, nobody cares about that topic anymore, it's not even a good cudgel for the left. The gun issue is the opposite: there are no longer any "casual" gun owners. Every single one of them is a stauch advocate for public armaments now. It's gone from "grandaddy's old hunting rifle as an heirloom" to "cold dead hands", and only seems to be getting stronger.

Ignore free polls and free registration, look at money spent. The Democrats can't even hold their own members.
 
The weirder part is it not just rural Republicans buying guns. It's also a lot of urban Democrats.

Guns sales are up everywhere pretty much, except the cities that have crazy draconian laws of course as gettings gun legally in a place like New York is pretty much impossible.

Oddly enough you can get a hand gun for about $200 buck on the street corner in New York but from a legal gun shop...forget about it

I think the the BLM riots had struck a chord of fear in alot of urban types, it's not much of a leap of logic to say that it could easy happen in any city, even my city! So maybe, just maybe I need some deterrent to protect myself, my family and my property.

No matter how much they process to love the blacks, deep down even a progressive Democrat can see the damage being done and the media hype is all surface level. Sure they'll say they're 100% behind BLM and ACAB but when those rioters are outside their door, screaming for their blood they know no matter how hard they cry that they're a progressive believer the mob wants blood and doesn't give a shit about anything but skin color.

Better to have a gun
 
I am not sure that Rogan would be a very good debate moderator. All you'd have to do is bring up DMT and he'd change topics quick
You know, as much as people make that joke about his interviews, I've never actually seen him say anything about that. Granted, I've only ever watched the interviews with people who are political figures because I couldn't give a damn about 90% of his other guests. Maybe he just tends to avoid the topic with political guests, unless he buried it somewhere in those several hour-long discussions with Bernie Sanders, because I never bothered to listen to any of those.
 
The weirder part is it not just rural Republicans buying guns. It's also a lot of urban Democrats.

Guns sales are up everywhere pretty much, except the cities that have crazy draconian laws of course as gettings gun legally in a place like New York is pretty much impossible.

Oddly enough you can get a hand gun for about $200 buck on the street corner in New York but from a legal gun shop...forget about it

I think the the BLM riots had struck a chord of fear in alot of urban types, it's not much of a leap of logic to say that it could easy happen in any city, even my city! So maybe, just maybe I need some deterrent to protect myself, my family and my property.

No matter how much they process to love the blacks, deep down even a progressive Democrat can see the damage being done and the media hype is all surface level. Sure they'll say they're 100% behind BLM and ACAB but when those rioters are outside their door, screaming for their blood they know no matter how hard they cry that they're a progressive believer the mob wants blood and doesn't give a shit about anything but skin color.

Better to have a gun
People are preparing for the worst.

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So. How's that mail-in ballot stuff working out?
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With numbers like this.... yeah guys Biden can win; Might want to start seriously considering that so you don't have an embarrassing meltdown on election day.
 
People are preparing for the worst.


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With numbers like this.... yeah guys Biden can win; Might want to start seriously considering that so you don't have an embarrassing meltdown on election day.

The election is going to be contested anyway unless governors grow a pair, stop worrying about the virus frenzy, and tell people go out and vote.
 
People are preparing for the worst.


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With numbers like this.... yeah guys Biden can win; Might want to start seriously considering that so you don't have an embarrassing meltdown on election day.

I have no doubt Biden can still win thanks to Democratic fuckery, although I do think it will be a lot trickier to pull off compared to three months ago, Back in June and July, I figured the Trump campaign would have to give it everything they got to even eke out a narrow win.

Now I think it's a lot more evenly matched and the threshold to clear for overcoming DNC voter fuckery is lower than it was a few months ago now that the riots are visibly going pear-shaped and the very toxic Kamala is the VP pick as opposed to the boring yet inoffensive nobody that is Susan Rice.

I still think Trump can flip Minnesota. If he can keep Ohio, Arizona and Wisconsin plus win both Florida and Pennyslvania a second time plus flip Minnesota, he's got a good shot at the election despite Democrat fuckery. If we get Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania going for Trump, there's a good chance he'll have already won by the time those states are called.

The most ideal scenario that can actually happen without some freak miracle is if he barely gets by and keeps all the states he won in 2016 plus Minnesota and gets a popular vote win since that is the kind of thing that can get the DNC to do a campaign autopsy and do some major changes of some sort.
 
People are preparing for the worst.


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With numbers like this.... yeah guys Biden can win; Might want to start seriously considering that so you don't have an embarrassing meltdown on election day.
Democrats always have the highest number of mail-in ballots. That's not even in the same zip-code as surprising. If they were dead-even or lower than the Republican and Unaffiliated, I'd find that alarming.
 
People are preparing for the worst.


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With numbers like this.... yeah guys Biden can win; Might want to start seriously considering that so you don't have an embarrassing meltdown on election day.
Or that Republicans are actually listening to what Trump is saying and waiting to vote in person. Trump has been warning of mail-in fraud consistently and has taken action to prevent universal mail-in ballots. Even if Republicans perform low among mail ballots, that doesn't mean they won't turn out for Trump in-person by an even larger number where they can be sure it actually went through.

Not saying Trump will win for sure, but that doesn't mean much.
I have no doubt Biden can still win thanks to Democratic fuckery, although I do think it will be a lot trickier to pull off compared to three months ago, Back in June and July, I figured the Trump campaign would have to give it everything they got to even eke out a narrow win.

Now I think it's a lot more evenly matched and the threshold to clear for overcoming DNC voter fuckery is lower than it was a few months ago now that the riots are visibly going pear-shaped and the very toxic Kamala is the VP pick as opposed to the boring yet inoffensive nobody that is Susan Rice.

I still think Trump can flip Minnesota. If he can keep Ohio, Arizona and Wisconsin plus win both Florida and Pennyslvania a second time plus flip Minnesota, he's got a good shot at the election despite Democrat fuckery. If we get Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania going for Trump, there's a good chance he'll have already won by the time those states are called.

The most ideal scenario that can actually happen without some freak miracle is if he barely gets by and keeps all the states he won in 2016 plus Minnesota and gets a popular vote win since that is the kind of thing that can get the DNC to do a campaign autopsy and do some major changes of some sort.
Trump still has to give it all he's got to eek out that narrow win. Remember how close 2016 was as Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan all went for him by less than 1%.

I'm feeling good on Maine 2nd Congressional District, Ohio, North Carolina, Iowa, Florida, and Georgia going to Trump which along with all of the solid red states (which I now consider Texas after the news Trump is beating Biden with Hispanics in Florida according to the Florida Martis poll which has him tied with Biden) puts him at 248 electoral votes. He then needs two or three of Arizona, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. If he loses Pennsylvania and Michigan, he can recover by keeping Arizona and Wisconsin while also flipping Minnesota. If he wins either Pennsylvania or Michigan, he only needs one more of Arizona, Minnesota, and Wisconsin to win. Should he somehow get Nebraska's 2nd Congressional District, which I suspect will be a Biden flip, that gives him more breathing room where he can barely squeak by with Minnesota/Wisconsin and one of Arizona, Michigan, or Pennsylvania.

Trump will lose in a 269-269 split. The Democrats control the House and they will elect Biden. He has to get to 270. Don't be surprised if Biden is banking on a Nebraska CD 2 flip.
 
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