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Hellbound Hellhound said:
The US and Ireland have a weird obsession with the subject of abortion. In the rest of the Western world, it's simply a non-issue. Personally, I blame the fixation on the level of influence religious fanatics still wield in both countries.
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Nah.

In European countries, the pro-abortion fanatics of the "Zero restrictions during all nine months, and possibly not even after birth!" and "Yass kween slay, be proud of all your abortions sistaah!" variety are fringe elements on the political spectrum.
In the US, that's effectively the position of one of the two major parties.

In most EU countries, society has reached a compromise on abortion along the lines of "Not officially legal, but also not punishable under the law as long as it's in the first few weeks and/or certain special preconditions and formalities are met". Which is to say, a compromise that no-one is happy with, but that everyone (except some politically powerless fringe elements of die-hard Catholics and die-hard feminists) can grudgingly live with.

The US Republican position is a lot closer to this EU-style compromise than the US Democrat position.

This is one area of policy where the "US Left is like the EU Right" meme simply does not hold up.
 
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CivilianOfTheFandomWars said:
Actually, I found out that my local shop just put out their RBG displays. In honor of her, y’know.
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Pancreatic cancer is a fucking terrible way to go. Excruciating pain, vomiting, severe lethargy, never mind all the associated organ failure. Thinking how that Satanic monster suffered in the end makes me incredibly happy.

She must have been on a shit ton of meds. High dose Opioids, laxatives, anti emetics, chemo, anti-inflammatories, steroids and so on. That bitch had been passing laws while hopelessly incapacitated.
 
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On topic: The Republicans would be idiots not to seize the opportunity and appoint a judge as soon as possible. You don't let the chucklefucks that've been burning America for the past few months over a dead nigger make this kind of appointment.

On abortions: I think people should always have a choice, but they should also always be the ones to foot the bill. You want an abortion? Fine, you pay a steep, non tax-deductible fee. Want to raise a kid? Great, you work your ass off for him and don't expect any state gibs. If you don't like to use rubbers or alternate, God-given holes, that should be entirely on you. You like it raw, you pay the dough.
 
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polyester said:
This is one area of policy where the "US Left is like the EU Right" meme simply does not hold up.
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The European left was always a lot saner on cultural issues than their American counterparts. It's American cultural dominance that's dragged the white left in other western nations into crazy town. Queer theory, 4th wave feminism, BLM, in fact all aspects of post modern inter-sectionalism originate and are propagated from the US.
 
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RiceofSkywalker said:
On abortions: I think people should always have a choice, but they should also always be the ones to foot the bill. You want an abortion? Fine, you pay a steep, non tax-deductible fee. Want to raise a kid? Great, you work your ass off for him and don't expect any state gibs. If you don't like to use rubbers or alternate, God-given holes, that should be entirely on you. You like it raw, you pay the dough.
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And we could troll some pro-choice guys by saying there not enough Planned Parenthood in black areas and watch them saying "How dare you?". :smug:
 
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Honka Honka Burning Love said:
What the holy fuck/ The point of the Supreme Court is to have them ALL be totally unbiased Constitutional Judges.

This Dumb Motherfucker doesn't even know how this shit works.
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Ummm actually sweaty the conservative and constitutional judges would be figureheads to please the inbred redneck yokels that insist on living outside our big advanced modern cities for some reason. In practice, reality has a liberal bias so the court will make only reasonable, rational decisions that respect experts and give praise to Science™, but you have to give those disgusting creatures some scraps or they'll start lynching transwomen of color out of their impotence and fear of a just, equitable world
 
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Android raptor said:
*Psychotic ramblings of someone who should've been quietly muzzled in a mental ward*
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I have had a child and while it is incredibly painful (tfw epidural wore off at peak stage) and I even had a perineal tear (they stitch your gooch back up, though it'll still be sore and bloody for a while) I couldn't even remember the pain after a month of loving my precious baby.
Early in the pregnancy, very honestly, my husband and I were concerned about our ability to raise her due to complicated circumstances and considered adoption, but realsies to the mealsies, once a normal woman feels that first kick, it's instant love and one finds a way to make it all work (even the hospital bills, for which I had no out-of-pocket payment) and it's made us stronger as a couple; a baby is, traditionally, a testament to the love and commitment of a husband and wife. (Naturally, though, whoredom and "modern-women"'s inability to secure a stable relationship complicates this.)

Aside from the "whores need to learn consequences" "certain people need to be sterilized" and "holy moly, did you know murdering babies is bad" standpoints, if domestic adoption were made the primary option for incapable parents and women were not only made to feel the female-exclusive, wonderful sensation of a kick of your baby inside you, but also the trial of childbirth itself (realizing it's not THAT bad, once it's over lol), we might have greater, mainstream appreciation for life and motherhood, the intimate nature of intimacy, and maybe even see the rise of abandonment of female wageslaving/ return of nuclear families. Wishful thinking.:optimistic:

Like, women who claim to be feminists but want to murder babies (though, you because you hardly deserve to be recognized as human, let alone female) blow my mind with the hypocrisy for refusing to properly recognize and celebrate the hardships women (their own mothers) go through in this regard and, importantly, the unmatched, rewarding experience that follow. No, let's just write it off and take the easy life following Mr Bergman, Miss MeowMeow, and Madame Sauvignon's directives and leave the rest to POWERFUL migrants.

Getting MOTI but I'm glad the baby-killing, family-ruining jew is dead, and I hope whomever gets in is on board with mandated sterilization of undesirables, and overturning the 19th.
 
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Super-Chevy454 said:
And we could troll some pro-choice guys by saying there not enough Planned Parenthood in black areas and watch them saying "How dare you?". :smug:
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マチコ先生 said:
I have had a child and while it is incredibly painful (tfw epidural wore off at peak stage) and I even had a perineal tear (they stitch your gooch back up, though it'll still be sore and bloody for a while) I couldn't even remember the pain after a month of loving my precious baby.
Early in the pregnancy, very honestly, my husband and I were concerned about our ability to raise her due to complicated circumstances and considered adoption, but realsies to the mealsies, once a normal woman feels that first kick, it's instant love and one finds a way to make it all work (even the hospital bills, for which I had no out-of-pocket payment) and it's made us stronger as a couple; a baby is, traditionally, a testament to the love and commitment of a husband and wife. (Naturally, though, whoredom and "modern-women"'s inability to secure a stable relationship complicates this.)

Aside from the "whores need to learn consequences" "certain people need to be sterilized" and "holy moly, did you know murdering babies is bad" standpoints, if domestic adoption were made the primary option for incapable parents and women were not only made to feel the female-exclusive, wonderful sensation of a kick of your baby inside you, but also the trial of childbirth itself (realizing it's not THAT bad, once it's over lol), we might have greater, mainstream appreciation for life and motherhood, the intimate nature of intimacy, and maybe even see the rise of abandonment of female wageslaving/ return of nuclear families. Wishful thinking.:optimistic:

Like, women who claim to be feminists but want to murder babies (though, you because you hardly deserve to be recognized as human, let alone female) blow my mind with the hypocrisy for refusing to properly recognize and celebrate the hardships women (their own mothers) go through in this regard and, importantly, the unmatched, rewarding experience that follow. No, let's just write it off and take the easy life following Mr Bergman, Miss MeowMeow, and Madame Sauvignon's directives and leave the rest to POWERFUL migrants.

Getting MOTI but I'm glad the baby-killing, family-ruining jew is dead, and I hope whomever gets in is on board with mandated sterilization of undesirables, and overturning the 19th.
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That's you. Personally the idea of a thing moving and kicking inside me makes me want to rip my uterus out and light it on fire.

Like I said earlier, some women just aren't fit to go through pregnancy or have kids, and forcing them to do so isn't going to lead to anything good. This forum is full of examples of women who shouldn't have had kids. You really think people like Sammie Bushart, foreverkailyn, and hell, even Barb should've had kids and truly love and take care of theirs?
 
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