2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Trump is going for the third SCOTUS pick. The liberals will seethe and progressives cope.



He had a short moment where he talk about RBG and Scalia. Then, he just gets to the point of SCOTUS nominations, and crowd chants "FILL THAT SEAT!"

Yeah, he's not gonna waste any time...

EDIT: He says he plans to nominate a woman next week.
 
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Exactly. That would be chaos, and would actually be unprecedented.

Throughout my teen years and now my adult life, I would laugh at anyone and everyone who said "This Election is the most important one ever!" every four years. I especially laughed at people who said that in 2012. My response was, "Well, whoever wins, let's all give congrats to George Dubya Bush for winning a fourth term." That definitely pissed people off, and I enjoyed pissing people off.

I can't believe it, but this year is totally different. Definitely the most important general election in my lifetime. I can't believe I am saying this unironically now. This year is an absolute shitshow.
I don't know "This Election is the most important one ever!" holds true. It would if the dems get total control of the government. But I think even if the dems win, they're not getting total control of the Government. They'll get one branch. Two at the most if Trump fails to ram his SCOTUS nomination in. The other two will probably stay mostly the same.

Most importantly, I think Trump has changed enough that it'll set back the dem's plans for most of their next term. If he wins a second term, he'll set the dems back by decades. But Even if Biden wins, Trump's supporters aren't going away. They're just gonna get more vocal about Biden/Harris. Even if they win this election, the next one WILL go to a Republican. Because they're gonna fuck shit up enough were even the normies are gonna hate em. And if Harris does take over for Biden, its gonna be a landslide in 2024. She's not likable enough and has too much baggage. Anything she does will be boo'd by Trump's base.

I guess the above is dependent on the GOP not shitting the bed and going back to their old ways. That's up in the air. Even if the GOP shits the bed, I can see Trump's base going off and forming their own party.

E: I guess I'm more focused on Domestic issues. The dems will probably take us back to Obama era international politics. Which means no more America First. It would mean American in X place while the rest of the world walks all over us. Not to mention they might start a war with someone (Russia maybe). More jobs going overseas.

I'm just undervaluing what they'll do since too many people think we'll get LWDS as soon as the election is called. Or at least act that way.

Make sure you get out there and fucking vote on Nov. 3.
 
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I'm actually going to press X to doubt on Biden actually giving out a list of nominations.

He'll just say that "RBG has just passed and we are going to give her the respect she deserves." Or "we will focus on that after the election is won."

I already have crazy liberals on Facebook saying that Mitch McConnell is the worst scum alive because he's "not even waiting for her corpse to be cold."

There's really no reason or incentive for Biden to actually make a list yet.
His list of names is conspicuous by its absence though. If he wins, the intent is for that person to be on the bench in only a few months. It's not supposed to be a secret forever. So if he's unwilling to give a name that is a huge red flag that they know people wouldn't like who it is.
 
His list of names is conspicuous by its absence though. If he wins, the intent is for that person to be on the bench in only a few months. It's not supposed to be a secret forever. So if he's unwilling to give a name that is a huge red flag that they know people wouldn't like who it is.

Stacey Abrams. She didn't make the cut for VP because they had higher aspirations for her. I really don't know if I'm joking or serious and that's scary.
 
His list of names is conspicuous by its absence though. If he wins, the intent is for that person to be on the bench in only a few months. It's not supposed to be a secret forever. So if he's unwilling to give a name that is a huge red flag that they know people wouldn't like who it is.
Guess he'll just nominate Garland again, who has recently been fucking over General Flynn on the DC circuit court of appeals.
 
Personally I would hope that whoever Trump picked would be for their legal credidentials over anything else, but everything is so politcized either way that I probably should just resign myself to enjoying this shitshow.
Picking a cuban latina makes it alot easyer to get the pick through the senate in time. he will have another pick soon.
 
What will happens to the dems if there's a Trump W: a woke/non-woke schism or will they shit themselves and do nothing?
The dems will continue in their ways. But with the bonus of the woke and the neolibs being at each others throats. They'll blame each other for the election loss.

Until the party cleans house of the motherfuckers on top who keep denying the reality of the situation, nothing will change. They'll continue to be losers while their party shrinks to nothing. The major donors will stop supporting them and work within the GOP system to get their way. And that's not good since the DNC is already flat broke. We've seen them begging for money time and time again this year alone.

I've said it before and I'll keep saying it. I think what will happen is a big time donor will come in and clean house after they lose big time in 2022. This person will guide the party towards populous politics and absolutely condemn the woke's actions.

Basically what @Syaoran Li has been saying: a 6th/7th major party paradigm shift. The GOP already went through with it in 2016. 2020 will just be a confirmation of it, if Trump wins. The left still hasn't caught on to the paradigm shift. But they will be required to if they ever want to stay in power.
 
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This is one of those shitty kind of "damned if you, damned if you don't" situations, and while I would normally advise not to select a replacement this early due to how badly and easily it could backfire on him, not doing so could be even more disastrous for Trump.

Frankly, him selecting someone is much more of his sort of "I don't give a fuck", "high risk, high reward" style that's one of the reasons he even got elected, and managed to accomplish so much, and I think he should give that tactic just one last go.

It's paid off for him so far. Now let's see if it stays that way.

To me, there is no other choice but to move forward with a nomination and have the Senate vote on it before the election. The stakes are far too high to weigh the options, in my opinion.

This election is going to be crazy with voter fraud ... Not to mention the media is already preparing us for the election to be dragged out well beyond Election Day. If it ends up coming down to the SCOTUS to determine the election, I do not want a 4-4 split. That would be a guaranteed Constitutional Crisis, and that should be avoided at all costs.

Don't get me wrong, I am speaking from a Trump supporting (and an anti-Democrat) perspective, so I can't say I have no biases. However, given the current state of things, even if I were convinced that it would hurt Trump to nominate somebody and bring it to a vote ASAP, I would still be highly in favor of doing it in order to prevent an absolute catastrophe of an election.

RBG picked one of the worst times to finally croak ... Which seriously leads me to speculate that it was only merely announced that she died yesterday. Wouldn't put it past the Dems to hold onto this info for a long period of time at this point. That's how batshit crazy and maniacal the party has become. The timing is just too on the nose.
 
BG picked one of the worst times to finally croak ... Which seriously leads me to speculate that it was only merely announced that she died yesterday. Wouldn't put it past the Dems to hold onto this info for a long period of time at this point. That's how batshit crazy and maniacal the party has become. The timing is just too on the nose.
Yeah, no. I don't think the Dems had any hand in this. This is just 2020 being 2020. Claiming that they somehow conceded this knowledge up until now is just diving right into conspiratard territory. If they did know, they would've sprung this much earlier, or at the very least, much closer to the actual fucking election.
 
I don't know "This Election is the most important one ever!" holds true. It would if the dems get total control of the government. But I think even if the dems win, they're not getting total control of the Government. They'll get one branch. Two at the most if Trump fails to ram his SCOTUS nomination in. The other two will probably stay mostly the same.

Most importantly, I think Trump has changed enough that it'll set back the dem's plans for most of their next term. If he wins a second term, he'll set the dems back by decades. But Even if Biden wins, Trump's supporters aren't going away. They're just gonna get more vocal about Biden/Harris. Even if they win this election, the next one WILL go to a Republican. Because they're gonna fuck shit up enough were even the normies are gonna hate em. And if Harris does take over for Biden, its gonna be a landslide in 2024. She's not likable enough and has too much baggage. Anything she does will be boo'd by Trump's base.

I guess the above is dependent on the GOP not shitting the bed and going back to their old ways. That's up in the air. Even if the GOP shits the bed, I can see Trump's base going off and forming their own party.

E: I guess I'm more focused on Domestic issues. The dems will probably take us back to Obama era international politics. Which means no more America First. It would mean American in X place while the rest of the world walks all over us. Not to mention they might start a war with someone (Russia maybe). More jobs going overseas.

I'm just undervaluing what they'll do since too many people think we'll get LWDS as soon as the election is called. Or at least act that way.

Make sure you get out there and fucking vote on Nov. 3.
Then again, if the Dems sell the "Return to normalcy" talking point well enough, they could make Trump the next Jimmy Carter. One-term president who finishes a decade mired in controversy, who had mainly gained power due to the scandals of the previous administration. Hell, wasn't Reagan's main support base a bunch of urban proto-bugmen known as Yuppies?'

Edit: And wasn't the Right in the 1980s mainly about "Fuck the working class, globalism forever!" too, just like modern Dems? Dear god, maybe the parties did switch....
 
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RBG picked one of the worst times to finally croak ... Which seriously leads me to speculate that it was only merely announced that she died yesterday. Wouldn't put it past the Dems to hold onto this info for a long period of time at this point. That's how batshit crazy and maniacal the party has become. The timing is just too on the nose.
If she did died earlier, why wasn't there any hint of a rumor she died? I think would have heard a mummer from somewhere saying "her rabbi is being called to perform last rites" or something.

Then again, we haven't had any reputable leaks from the Biden campaign. So maybe the left has plugged the holes.

e: If I was in charge at the DNC, I'd hold on to the news as long as possible. Possibly until December after the votes get locked in. So that Trump has no fucking room to get another nominee. I know this would bite the DNC in the ass immensely since this might be a smidg illegal. But the left doesn't have any scruples and only have a double standard.

I think the Truth is everyone found out at the same time.
 
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What will happens to the dems if there's a Trump W: a woke/non-woke schism or will they shit themselves and do nothing?

This campaign has been amazing in that the Dems have tried literally nothing other than character assassination / media manipulation to slam the other side. Biden/Harris have no real policy positions; Harris even tried to score cheap points on Biden in the primaries. This will be a great election to measure exactly how much pure negative messaging actually affects the American public.

No matter who wins, people will stay partisan. Independents (like yours truly) may shift as we define our own internal politics and who represents those beliefs, but there will still be a party in decline, and that will either be conservatives (who will return to Obama-era grousing and will try to defend attacks on ‘our identity’) or progressives (who will invent new narratives to explain why progressivism isn’t REALLY unpopular, it’s just the Electoral College / a cabal of fascists / poor education).

The general acting out won’t end until the Left has a strong figure to rally behind. That’s not Biden, but I guess could be Harris, in Clown World. Once the Left has a personality to align behind, they’ll stop acting like brats without leadership, because right now they are literally anarchists. I hope it’s a peacemaker and not a radical.
 
Then again, if the Dems sell the "Return to normalcy" talking point well enough, they could make Trump the next Jimmy Carter. One-term president who finishes a decade mired in controversy, who had mainly gained power due to the scandals of the previous administration. Hell, wasn't Reagan's main support base a bunch of urban proto-bugmen known as Yuppies?'

Edit: And wasn't the Right in the 1980s mainly about "Fuck the working class, globalism forever!" too, just like modern Dems? Dear god, maybe the parties did switch....
Jimmy Carter's fucks ups were the Iran Hostage Crisis, Operation Eagleclaw, pardoning Vietnam deserters, failing to deal with the OPEC embargo and telling Americans that they should get used to a lower standard of living due to pollution. However there are polls that Carter was leading Reagan but Eagleclaw came at the end and destroyed his administration.

Trump doesn't have some large national or international failure on that level compared to Carter.
 
Jimmy Carter's fucks ups were the Iran Hostage Crisis, Operation Eagleclaw, pardoning Vietnam deserters, failing to deal with the OPEC embargo and telling Americans that they should get used to a lower standard of living due to pollution. However there are polls that Carter was leading Reagan but Eagleclaw came at the end and destroyed his administration.

Trump doesn't have some large national or international failure on that level compared to Carter.

Polling is also showing that Trump does not have a Carter or H W Bush situation. Both Bush Sr and Carter had approval ratings in the mid to low 30s. Meanwhile, Trump is at 45 (ironically enough, why the fuck is this number popping up everywhere?)

Trump still has a rock solid floor and still appeals to independents. If he was cratering, his base would be showing major revolt in his approval, which isn't the case.
 
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