Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died at 87. - 🦀

[DeadFish]

I think what the Republicans could offer that the Democrats can't is a tough but fair stance on law and order. Many Democrat ran cities have allowed riots to happen in their cities for weeks with little resistance. They're losing money, goodwill and residents from that move.

I don't think anybody would be against maintaining order, especially since how far they let things go.

I would wish they would have a better handle on Coronavirus, although doing strict, unrealistic restrictions isn't helping matters either.

Its still a case of competing with Gibs.
Libertarian values are only held sacred by white people. Why do you think the commie scum hate white people and love everyone else?

 

[Jarolleon]

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You whipped together a cabal of idiots to try and frame an innocent man for colluding with a foreign government, you tore people's lives apart with your Special Counsel and drove a divide in this country so deep that families stopped talking to each other because of your psychotic, media-fueled narratives, you tried to frame an innocent man of sexual assault to keep him off of the Supreme Court, you tried to shove an impeachment attempt through the Senate based on falsified evidence, you exploited the Wuflu outbreak to exert an authoritarian level of control over people's lives unless they were rioting, and when the rioters smashed homes and businesses and murdered people, you still shrugged your shoulders and called them peaceful protestors.

Nothing was ever off the table for the Democrats. These threats are meaningless.

Well they haven't went for literal assassination yet, or leveraging the deep state to install the popular vote winner as president, or other bullshit that probably would only work in a novel written by a conspiracy nut.

 

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Well they haven't went for literal assassination yet, or leveraging the deep state to install the popular vote winner as president, or other bullshit that probably would only work in a novel written by a conspiracy nut.

You really think they haven't tried assassination by now?

We'd never hear about it. Not a serious plot. You'd just see some random swamp creatures either retire and go away or vanish outright. Sealed indictments and the like.

 

[Corn Flakes]

You really think they haven't tried assassination by now?

We'd never hear about it. Not a serious plot. You'd just see some random swamp creatures either retire and go away or vanish outright. Sealed indictments and the like.

They probably uncover variously plausible assassination plots every week, but never report it even when they intercept a plot already in progress.

And even if they reported it... well, the media wouldn't. Widely publicized assassination attempts tend to energize the backers of guy who almost got assassinated.

 

[Shield Breaker]

Libertarian values are only held sacred by white people.

Actual immigrants tend to be blue dog or libertarian.

Edit

I mean non-European faggots.

 

[HumanHive]

Actual immigrants tend to be blue dog or libertarian.

No, they’re usually socialist with “socially conservative” (read: ‘ate gays, ‘ate trannies, luv me underage, simple as) views. Hindus, Arabs, and Mexicans are in no way libertarian, if anything they’re the exact opposite.

The Yakov Smirnov republican was a product of the collapse of the USSR. In the present, it’s a myth at best.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Regardless of political leaning, I do think it's kind of ugly when someone dies and someone else's immediate thought is "oh boy, what an opportunity to gain political influence".

That sounds familiar

 

[Bartleby]

Maybe I just sort of realized all this stuff a few years ago and also got past the initial red/black pill OD people tend to have without sperging out too hard online or IRL, so it really isn't ideology-changing for me to see companies and social groups acting exactly how I expected them to. I'm the only right winger in my immediate family and at the moment probably the only right winger in any of my friends seen on a weekly basis. The increase in requests for going to the gun range to learn the very basics of gun safety/shooting and change in general attitude towards / interest in firearms as well as the more frequent secret venting I've become a confidant for has been equal parts hilarious and edifying.

I guess my point is that although things have become very contentious at times, I was able to navigate the situation without losing family or any real friends. Maybe that was made easier by the fact that I'm not dealing with the accelerated timeline and frequently-seen redpill OD. Things got pretty bad with a family member, but we've been able to patch stuff up. Frankly, I'm glad I know about the massive chip on her shoulder now so I don't unwittingly expose anyone else to that negativity without mitigating it.

I definitely recommend turning the personal politics of feelings back on any really close friends or any family members who insist on not dropping politics. Don't argue that they're wrong if it's something you know from prior experience won't be agreed on or otherwise resolved amicably. Just tell them you don't agree and artfully state how bringing it up all the time makes you feel sad and lose trust. Probably throw some references to past times you've counted on them to help make them realize how dumb this is compared to the human relationship you share that until now has been totally devoid of politics. Ideally, you won't have to deal with any more political discussions, and you can make an accounting of who you can trust to do what based on those recent interactions.

I think there are two factors that make it difficult for people to maintain their relationships when it comes to stark political differences.

Spoiler: politics/relationships sperging

One, the person who instigates the schism (usually leftists this past decade) have a tendency to simply be unable to not bring it up no matter how casual the topic of conversation is. You can tell them that you disagree, that it's not worth ruining your relationship over, and that all it just depresses you, but even if they fully agree with you, they've become so involved in their ideology that the only way for them to take your advice to heart is walking on eggshells constantly. Basically, either you cut each other off, or you maintain an empty shell of what used to be your relationship. I think @GrimProphet made a post in this thread earlier (might have been another thread) about cult behaviour, I think that's the best way to sum it up- there's a frightening amount of people that choose ideology over people they knew for decades.

Two, most people just aren't good at debating, or navigating complicated situations like that. I can't speak for everyone, but I have a strong feeling that 5-10 years ago, most of us here would not ever think that we'd have to seriously debate politics or else we'd lose people we trust. It's hard to strike a good balance of logic and emotion especially when arguing with leftists, and more likely than not you'll end up having to defend your reputation because they'll start questioning why you disagree. It sounds really cucked I know, but already you have to be very careful what you say before you're branded a bigot, so you have to hold back how you really feel, because otherwise you'll be dropped by that person.

I guess overall my point is, when someone in your life changes to such a drastic degree, what can you do about it? You can't convince them unless you're an amazing debater, you have to hide a lot of your views (even ones that don't seem that controversial), and at best you talk to them like they're an acquaintance since they're just not who you thought they were. Your best hope is that they can separate politics from other topics, but with how increasingly politicised a lot of things have become, that's unlikely.

 

[Shark Senpai]

Maybe it's like guys who like Warhammer 40k. They don't want to live in that world, but they sure are fascinated by it.

>He thinks we don't want to go mad trying to navigate a ship through the warp.

 

[Shield Breaker]

No, they’re usually socialist with “socially conservative” (read: ‘ate gays, ‘ate trannies, luv me underage, simple as) views. Hindus, Arabs, and Mexicans are in no way libertarian, if anything they’re the exact opposite.

Left-leaning economics and conservative socially is a blue dog.

 

[CrippleThreat]

Who knew Jake Tapper could be a journalist?

 

[Unexpected Genitals]

That sounds familiar
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Ha ha. So if it's hip and okay to celebrate a death if you don't like the person/people, I can be happy when the Big Bad Orange Man kicks the bucket, right?

 

[Jimmy Durante's Ballsack]

Actual immigrants tend to be blue dog or libertarian.

Edit

I mean non-European faggots.

Depends which side of Europe they are from.

If they're Faggot Europeans from the West they're usually left-leaning.
If they're Working Class Europeans from the East they're usually right-leaning.

Snow Europeans need not apply.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Ha ha. So if it's hip and okay to celebrate a death if you don't like the person/people, I can be happy when the Big Bad Orange Man kicks the bucket, right?

Yes. Her death isn't funny because I didn't like her, it's funny because it's causing massive meltdowns from leftists. The same would happen if Trump died, meltdowns galore from righties.

 

[HumanHive]

Left-leaning economics and conservative socially is a blue dog.

Maybe in the most shallow of definitions, but not in reality. They’re tribal socialists.

 

[Shield Breaker]

Maybe in the most shallow of definitions, but not in reality. They’re tribal socialists.

My dad's family were immigrants, and they were pretty much run of the mill blue dogs for the most part.

 

[Not Really Here]

Ha ha. So if it's hip and okay to celebrate a death if you don't like the person/people, I can be happy when the Big Bad Orange Man kicks the bucket, right?

What kind of faggot needs permission to have emotional responses?

 

[HumanHive]

My dad's family were immigrants, and they were pretty much run of the mill blue dogs for the most part.

Nice anecdote, but it’s not the current crop of immigrants.

 

[Superman93's Bitch]

Ha ha. So if it's hip and okay to celebrate a death if you don't like the person/people, I can be happy when the Big Bad Orange Man kicks the bucket, right?

Um... yes...

yes you can...

What reality are you living in? This is pretty much a norm in today's political world because of how polarized everything has become. You can moralfag about if it you want. It's not gonna change anything.

 

[Unexpected Genitals]

Yes. Her death isn't funny because I didn't like her, it's funny because it's causing massive meltdowns from leftists. The same would happen if Trump died, meltdowns galore from righties.

I agree with that, I'm left leaning and watching people throw fits has been hilarious. I just took your joke as being the usual "it's hip and cool to shit on people who say 'hey man, have some empathy'."