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One would think I'd have learned by now not to browse the Sick Nick thread while eating...
Inactive Nick Bate / Nickalaus B. Stoutzenberger (Thread 2: THE RECKONING)
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I wonder if Nick's been allowed to use the prison commissary at all.
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For Nick, that would be somewhat appropriate.
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What about his video? Will that factor in -- I mean, will it be admissible, and who would want to get it in? To prove his mental state, or the fact that he previously confessed before?
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The prosecutor would want it in, because it makes Nick look like a disgusting subhuman. Of course, they wouldn't say that, because that's not a legitimate reason for admitting it.
There are a lot of potential justifications for admitting it. Mental state is one. There's also an argument the coprophilia is a signature of his crime. Or that it amounts to a confession of sorts.
The reason not to admit it is basically that it's horrifyingly prejudicial. Anyone seeing it is going to be absolutely disgusted by Nick and basically, the trier of fact (the jury or the judge) will improperly use it to conclude that Nick probably committed the crime because he's just a disgusting person who would do something like that. I.e., he's a bad person and therefore did this bad thing. That's improper fact finding, and evidence likely to lead to such prejudice is inadmissible when the prejudice outweighs the probative value of the evidence, "probative" meaning evidence that makes it more or less likely that material facts relevant to guilt are true.
Basically, it comes down to the judge's decision whether something is more prejudicial than probative.
I think it's pretty much a judgment call. It is highly probative evidence, and it is also highly prejudicial.
Whatever the judge decides is unlikely to lead to a successful appeal. But if it goes to trial and I'm the prosecutor, I want all that horrible stuff coming in and will try to introduce every bit of it.
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I'll give you props for the Brass Eye reference.
Aside from that, all I can really say is that my best wishes go out to Amber, I'm glad the father actually listened to her, and I can only hope justice is served in this case.
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Cheers - I also hope the law deals heavily with this individual.
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Yeah, we're getting that.
Just for the record, posts that amount to "OMG Nick Bate is so disgusting, I hope [cartoonish violence] happens to him!" are generally frowned upon.
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I understand that now - I'm a newb, so I made a slip up.
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Well, it's something a lot of us need to get out of our systems.
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I'm really glad our society has developed a tendency to overshare online. It makes catching vile people like Nick, MadThad and other reprehensible sorts much easier.
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It makes me feel old when I remember when society laughed at over sharing, like the guy who had illegal VHS's of his sports car doing 155+ or the kids with a handicap sprees of smashing mail boxes.
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Kiwis! Join with me and take the Evil Overlord Pledge:
If I am conspiring to commit, or have committed a felony or capital crime, I will not post about it online. I will not drop hints, I will keep it to myself so help me @Null.
If I am conspiring to commit, or have committed a felony or capital crime, I will not post about it online. I will not drop hints, I will keep it to myself so help me @Null.
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i think after a month in (likely solitary) prison, he's completely broken. he probably doesn't talk much if at all, and maybe rocks back and forth or mutters to himself. i don't think he's going to be very talkative or responsive at all in court.
if he is, it'll probably be a lot of yelling or whining. he's had to be in his head for like a whole month or something at this point...lots of time to think about things. lots of time to introspect.
lots of time to blame others for what happened.
lots of time to maybe fantasize about things.
have fun, field people!
if he is, it'll probably be a lot of yelling or whining. he's had to be in his head for like a whole month or something at this point...lots of time to think about things. lots of time to introspect.
lots of time to blame others for what happened.
lots of time to maybe fantasize about things.
have fun, field people!
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I don't remember the full set of details (cause I'm not watching that crap again) but doesn't he say in the video that he didn't molest Amber because she had shit on her ass? And that him masturbating with shit proves that shit on her ass wouldn't have stopped him? If that's one of the incidents of molestation that Amber told the cops, I could imagine some prosecutor wanting to point out that he remembers this specific incident in detail.
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That's another reason. There are really a nearly unlimited number of arguments for admissibility. Another is that even making the video at all demonstrated consciousness of guilt.
Why it wouldn't be admissible, that is, be prejudicial, is the improper inference that Nick is a bad person with the propensity to do disgusting things, so he therefore probably committed this crime.
So if this actually gets in front of the trier of fact, it will probably be with a jury instruction to use it for only the proper purpose, i.e. that it shows he specifically remembers details of the offense that only the perpetrator would know, and not the improper purpose, i.e., that Nick is a disgusting sick fuck who should be locked up just on general principle whether or not he's even guilty of this particular crime.
The jury will duly note this, conscientiously try their best not to let it affect their decision, and then conclude that Nick is a disgusting sick fuck who should be locked up etc.
Which is why the prosecutor would want it in, whatever claims are actually made to get it in.
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I'd be overly optimistic in thinking that at least a neuron containing a conscience would fire in his head and cause introspection into how horrible he truly is. There seems to be such a low chance of that, because he's been shown to have absolutely no sense of why his actions are wrong, and he'd probably be too mentally unhinged to really care by now.
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Soooooo, which does everyone think is the most plausible demeanor for Pedobear the Shitmonkey come court day:
- ( ) He'll be an arrogant sociopath who has convinced himself that he is a persecuted martyr...or...
- ( ) He'll be a deluded twit babbling about how unjust all this is, and he'll try to explain his philosophy on "those dumb pedophilia laws."...or...
- ( ) He'll be a glassy-eyed catatonic who barely acknowledges his current courtroom situation...or...
- ( ) He'll be a frothing kook who can't string together a coherent sentence and just keep singing about the Cage and Aquarium...or...
- ( ) He'll be an even frothier kook who'll smear himself with feces right in court....to silently prove a "point" about how normal he is.
Place your bets.
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He knows that other people consider has actions wrong, he just is clueless as to WHY they think that. He knew when he molested Amber that other people would consider it wrong and evil (which it is) but he thought he could bring people around to his way of thinking (not a chance in hell).
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Putting down ten on catatonia.
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