Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died at 87. - 🦀

[Tactical Wizard]

She's been co-opted into a cult. I doubt she wanted this.

But today we are all Bader, so...

Oh also, the one on the right.
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>Dat hairline

pretty sure that’s a dude.

 

[Who dat?]

>Dat hairline

pretty sure that’s a dude.

What does it say it is?

 

[Garm]

I'm 50/50 if RBG was a cult leader or not.
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Okay. 70/30.
These people are crazy.

I think it was more a response to Trump being a "larger than life" figure. Since conservatives got a cult of personality, the left needed one too.

Only problem was... Who?

Bernie? Last thing the DNC needed was to give socialists validation.

Hillary? No. Just... No.

Obama? He got them into this mess.

Some Supreme Court Justice that they can spin into being a bulwark against the rise of fascism because no one actually knew who she was or what her record was?

Bingo.

 

[Oats12345]

I think it was more a response to Trump being a "larger than life" figure. Since conservatives got a cult of personality, the left needed one too.

Only problem was... Who?

Bernie? Last thing the DNC needed was to give socialists validation.

Hillary? No. Just... No.

Obama? He got them into this mess.

Some Supreme Court Justice that they can spin into being a bulwark against the rise of fascism because no one actually knew who she was or what her record was?

Bingo.

The question I have is way the one who was in her 80s and clearly wouldn't be on this earth for much longer?

 

[Gehenna]

One of the more interesting things is after a century, you are finally starting to see some fragmentation and dividing interests in the American Black population. 2nd Generation Middle Class Suburban Southern Blacks no longer have quite the same world view as Rust Belt Urban Inner City blacks.

In the end, this is probably why they absolutely, cannot, under any circumstances give Trump credit for the economy. Everything else, peacetalks, successful trade deals, etc will get at least a bitter, grudging nod. But absolutely never the economy.

Trump holds the view that a rising tide raises all boats, and unlike the crippled trickle down economics of yore, his economic plan did both trickle down, pulled away money from overseas so its actually reinvested, and targeted monetary relief to specific groups. And it worked. "The Lowest black unemployment rate ever" is not just a slogan, its -damning- for democrats as keeping the black community dependent is a major factor in why the black culture stagnated and rotted.

 

[Garm]

The question I have is way the one who was in her 80s and clearly wouldn't be on this earth for much longer?

The only other two Democrats I can name off the top of my head is John Kerry and Bill Clinton. Neither one of them would work.

Wait. Tim Kaine.

You see where the problem is with all this in the DNC? That there is literally no one notable or worthwhile enough to create a cult of personality?

 

[HandsomeDan]

Cult leader? Absolutely, this woman was the living epitome of a "Skeksis" she even looked like one. Her obsession with living forever (like all of the other Skeksis filth in DC) was what directly led to not retiring when the time was right and causing the current situation. These creatures arrogance and entitlement is why they killed the fillabuster, were convinced Clinton winning was the only outcome and have again been revealed to have no contengency other than screaming, flailing around and burning down others property.

These creatures are not smart but are very conniving and are very dangerous, that's why when they do fall on the ground they must be smashed immediately. Trump and the Senate better see this through with no delay and no mercy.

 

[Sithis]

Greetings, I have been toiling in the vast salt mines of Metafilter. Once a proud bastion of free thought, now a ghost town filled with agoraphobics and soy-flavored NEETs. Keyboard warriors assemble!

Name checking every online boogeyman and a call for everyone else to spill blood in the name of Enlightenment:
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I think this one by the LOTR larper is my favorite (particularly since I can imagine Tolkien slapping the shit out of them both because of their support of communism and their attempt to paint a rival political party as fascist just because they exist). It really speaks to the pre-K level of awareness these people have that they will openly call for shutting down the entire government and actually fucking killing people just because they belong to the rival political party, while calling that rival political party "fascists". Sometimes I read these posts and I really have to think for a minute on whether I suspect it's someone trolling or if it's even possible for someone to be that goddamn stupid.

 

[It's HK-47]

Woodrow Wilson, Harry Truman, Bill Clinton, and John Kennedy were all Democrats who won their elections without winning a majority of the popular vote (IE they won it, but the total sum of voters for other candidates were higher). Woodrow appointed 3 Justices, Clinton appointed 2, Kennedy appointed 2, and Truman appointed 4. Between them, they appointed a total of 11 Justices, but according to you they should all just be thrown off the bench.

Well, one just was, but Breyer is still there. We could always throw him off the court if you'd like, since he doesn't fit your criteria.

If you really want to talk about the biggest mistake that America ever made when it came to Democracy, then you'd need to talk about how we're a bunch of fucking idiots who thought that it would be a good idea to directly elect our Senators into office and expect them to properly represent all of the millions of people in their states, instead of using the system prior that was made-up of local assemblyman and representatives.

Senators used to be chosen by state legislators. The House had districts and you used to be able to look at your local assemblyman and go, "Hey why is that fucking asshole in office?" if the dude that you sent to D.C. wasn't doing anything to benefit you or represent you. You weren't one vote in a sea of millions, you were one vote in a sea of thousands, so if your Senator was fucking up and your local politician wasn't helping, you got to go vote his ass out in two years and shove in a new guy who wouldn't vote for the other guy, ousting your Senator in as little as two years if he's being a cunt.

That was one of the key features of the original Constitution, and then someone lied to us. Someone told us that cutting out the middle man and using a direct Democracy to elect our Senators was a good idea. We believed them, and on April 8, 1913, we ratified the 17th Amendment. It was probably one of the biggest mistakes that America's Republic had ever made, and almost no one knows that it even happened, anymore.

We're not getting less Democratic, we're getting more Democratic, and that's the problem. Direct Democracy does not work. It completely abolishes the government's ability to even see the individual, let alone work in a way that benefits them. I am not the slightest bit interested in a tyranny of the majority.

 

[Shield Breaker]

It helps that Trump is an ex-Democrat running the show and an asshole as well.

Having former democrats run the GOP is a big boost as the current bunch of cuckservatives would fold on everything.

Imagine talking to your past self and explaining how the GOP is the sane party in 2020, mostly because they got former Democrats running it.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

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Woodrow Wilson, Harry Truman, Bill Clinton, and John Kennedy were all Democrats who won their elections without winning a majority of the popular vote (IE they won it, but the total sum of voters for other candidates were higher). Woodrow appointed 3 Justices, Clinton appointed 2, Kennedy appointed 2, and Truman appointed 4. Between them, they appointed a total of 11 Justices, but according to you they should all just be thrown off the bench.

Well, one just was, but Breyer is still there. We could always throw him off the court if you'd like, since he doesn't fit your criteria.

If you really want to talk about the biggest mistake that America ever made when it came to Democracy, then you'd need to talk about how we're a bunch of fucking idiots who thought that it would be a good idea to directly elect our Senators into office and expect them to properly represent all of the millions of people in their states, instead of using the system prior that was made-up of local assemblyman and representatives.

Senators used to be chosen by state legislators. The House had districts and you used to be able to look at your local assemblyman and go, "Hey why is that fucking asshole in office?" if the dude that you sent to D.C. wasn't doing anything to benefit you or represent you. You weren't one vote in a sea of millions, you were one vote in a sea of thousands, so if your Senator was fucking up and your local politician wasn't helping, you got to go vote his ass out in two years and shove in a new guy who wouldn't vote for the other guy, ousting your Senator in as little as two years if he's being a cunt.

That was one of the key features of the original Constitution, and then someone lied to us. Someone told us that cutting out the middle man and using a direct Democracy to elect our Senators was a good idea. We believed them, and on April 8, 1913, we ratified the 17th Amendment. It was probably one of the biggest mistakes that America's Republic had ever made, and almost no one knows that it even happened, anymore.

We're not getting less Democratic, we're getting more Democratic, and that's the problem. Direct Democracy does not work. It completely abolishes the government's ability to even see the individual, let alone work in a way that benefits them. I am not the slightest bit interested in a tyranny of the majority.

A'ight, I'ma push back on this a little.

My concern about representatives electing other representatives, is that it makes the people in those positions have EVEN MORE of a requirement to be part of "the club".

How did Donald Trump become the Republican Presidential candidate? Because America wanted him. How did Hilary become the Democratic Presidential candidate? Because the DNC decided it was Her Turn. Seems to me that democracy gives better results. (And yes, Trump lost the popular vote. But whether you like Trump or not, nobody should care that he lost a game he wasn't even playing.)

So the point here is, as bad a job as the American public does at picking their representatives, the party guys in the smoke filled room usually manage to somehow do even worse.

Of course, this isn't true in all cases. I wouldn't want the Supreme Court to be elected/, and I wouldn't want the electoral college eliminated (unless there's a better way of giving voice to people outside big cities). You can't have direct democracy for everything, or else the country would become California and I would Minecraft myself. But there's a risk of going too far in the other direction.

For what it's worth, I think the first step is term limits for Senators, since it's then mandatory to fire them occasionally.

 

[Goofy Logic]

Imagine talking to your past self and explaining how the GOP is the sane party in 2020, mostly because they got former Democrats running it.

I remember someone here saying "Today's progressives are tomorrow's Conservatives" and isn't that the truth.

 

[Goon]

They probably wish the same thing tbh.

The heavy breathing, the clearing of his throat ...

How much we wanna bet that he's going to test positive for COVID right before the first debate so the DNC can weasel him out of it?

Quite honestly, I expected him to drop dead from the way he looked and sounded. Can you imagine the fucking colossal level of ballistic that would erupt from the left

"ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS MAKE IT TO NOVEMBER 3RD JOE!"
This...

x 10

 

[It's HK-47]

A'ight, I'ma push back on this a little.

My concern about representatives electing other representatives, is that it makes the people in those positions have EVEN MORE of a requirement to be part of "the club".

How did Donald Trump become the Republican Presidential candidate? Because America wanted him. How did Hilary become the Democratic Presidential candidate? Because the DNC decided it was Her Turn. Seems to me that democracy gives better results. (And yes, Trump lost the popular vote. But whether you like Trump or not, nobody should care that he lost a game he wasn't even playing.)

So the point here is, as bad a job as the American public does at picking their representatives, the party guys in the smoke filled room usually manage to somehow do even worse.

Of course, this isn't true in all cases. I wouldn't want the Supreme Court to be elected/, and I wouldn't want the electoral college eliminated (unless there's a better way of giving voice to people outside big cities). You can't have direct democracy for everything, or else the country would become California and I would Minecraft myself. But there's a risk of going too far in the other direction.

For what it's worth, I think the first step is term limits for Senators, since it's then mandatory to fire them occasionally.

The Electoral College is the system that allows for the Presidency to be obtained through a balanced representation of the Republic, though. Holding an election for your Senator is just a direct Democracy, it's a popular vote and that Senator can very easily ignore very large swathes of their state if there aren't enough voters present.

"Oh? The entirety of Northern California is upset with me? That's fine, I have all the votes I need in Los Angeles so fuck'm."

When we had local, elected representatives that had to be voted on every two years, it was possible for smaller regions in each state to put large amounts of pressure against their Senator by refusing to vote for the Assemblyman that kept the Senator in power. If the Senator ignored parts of his state and didn't give them what they needed from him, his support base would start to topple over as more and more of these Assemblymen were rapidly and easily voted out of office, because the voting pool would only be a few thousand people for those smaller regions.

Yes, the system wasn't perfect, but your smaller community and to an extent even you as an individual were able to exert significantly more force against your Senator before the 17th Amendment than following it. It compartmentalized the power structure and kept the bulk of a Senator's power out of the dense population areas and out of D.C. They had to work to properly represent all of their constituents if they wanted to keep their jobs, not just the fuck-asses in the cities.

Now if you want to combine term limits with the destruction of the 17th Amendment, I'd pull up a chair and listen to that argument all day, even though we're probably starting to piss off the people who just came here to hear about some dead lady.

 

[MrJokerRager]

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Woodrow Wilson, Harry Truman, Bill Clinton, and John Kennedy were all Democrats who won their elections without winning a majority of the popular vote (IE they won it, but the total sum of voters for other candidates were higher). Woodrow appointed 3 Justices, Clinton appointed 2, Kennedy appointed 2, and Truman appointed 4. Between them, they appointed a total of 11 Justices, but according to you they should all just be thrown off the bench.

Well, one just was, but Breyer is still there. We could always throw him off the court if you'd like, since he doesn't fit your criteria.

If you really want to talk about the biggest mistake that America ever made when it came to Democracy, then you'd need to talk about how we're a bunch of fucking idiots who thought that it would be a good idea to directly elect our Senators into office and expect them to properly represent all of the millions of people in their states, instead of using the system prior that was made-up of local assemblyman and representatives.

Senators used to be chosen by state legislators. The House had districts and you used to be able to look at your local assemblyman and go, "Hey why is that fucking asshole in office?" if the dude that you sent to D.C. wasn't doing anything to benefit you or represent you. You weren't one vote in a sea of millions, you were one vote in a sea of thousands, so if your Senator was fucking up and your local politician wasn't helping, you got to go vote his ass out in two years and shove in a new guy who wouldn't vote for the other guy, ousting your Senator in as little as two years if he's being a cunt.

That was one of the key features of the original Constitution, and then someone lied to us. Someone told us that cutting out the middle man and using a direct Democracy to elect our Senators was a good idea. We believed them, and on April 8, 1913, we ratified the 17th Amendment. It was probably one of the biggest mistakes that America's Republic had ever made, and almost no one knows that it even happened, anymore.

We're not getting less Democratic, we're getting more Democratic, and that's the problem. Direct Democracy does not work. It completely abolishes the government's ability to even see the individual, let alone work in a way that benefits them. I am not the slightest bit interested in a tyranny of the majority.

From what wikipedia says here, basically corruption and State Legislatures fucking up on sending Senators to congress.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventeenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

 

[heathercho]

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Woodrow Wilson, Harry Truman, Bill Clinton, and John Kennedy were all Democrats who won their elections without winning a majority of the popular vote (IE they won it, but the total sum of voters for other candidates were higher). Woodrow appointed 3 Justices, Clinton appointed 2, Kennedy appointed 2, and Truman appointed 4. Between them, they appointed a total of 11 Justices, but according to you they should all just be thrown off the bench.

Well, one just was, but Breyer is still there. We could always throw him off the court if you'd like, since he doesn't fit your criteria.

If you really want to talk about the biggest mistake that America ever made when it came to Democracy, then you'd need to talk about how we're a bunch of fucking idiots who thought that it would be a good idea to directly elect our Senators into office and expect them to properly represent all of the millions of people in their states, instead of using the system prior that was made-up of local assemblyman and representatives.

Senators used to be chosen by state legislators. The House had districts and you used to be able to look at your local assemblyman and go, "Hey why is that fucking asshole in office?" if the dude that you sent to D.C. wasn't doing anything to benefit you or represent you. You weren't one vote in a sea of millions, you were one vote in a sea of thousands, so if your Senator was fucking up and your local politician wasn't helping, you got to go vote his ass out in two years and shove in a new guy who wouldn't vote for the other guy, ousting your Senator in as little as two years if he's being a cunt.

That was one of the key features of the original Constitution, and then someone lied to us. Someone told us that cutting out the middle man and using a direct Democracy to elect our Senators was a good idea. We believed them, and on April 8, 1913, we ratified the 17th Amendment. It was probably one of the biggest mistakes that America's Republic had ever made, and almost no one knows that it even happened, anymore.

We're not getting less Democratic, we're getting more Democratic, and that's the problem. Direct Democracy does not work. It completely abolishes the government's ability to even see the individual, let alone work in a way that benefits them. I am not the slightest bit interested in a tyranny of the majority.

I love that this assbandit is so transparent with his words - what he meant was "Our side didn't get to choose the most".

They were SUPPOSED to have Merrick Garland.
When they couldn't ramrod their chosen one through and Trump-sama got his pick (something they weren't expecting since Hilary was supposed to win) that really put them on the back foot.
(They probably had Scalia killed, tbqh. Everything about his death was strange. They absolutely would go to those lengths to get the power they crave.)

I mean....

Thomas - G.H.W BUSH
Breyer - Clinton
Roberts - G.W. Bush
Alito - G.W. Bush
Sotomayor - Obama
Kagan- Obama
Gorsuch - Trump
Kavanaugh - Trump
Mystery Meat - Trump

3 is all they have left. 3 will have been confirmed by Trump. That's gonna grind their gears no end.

People should really have a hard look at why a political party is so angry that they're losing their grip on control, that they'll go to any and all lengths to prevent it. One should then weigh up if that's the kind of party that should be running a country.

 

[Random Internet Person]

The heavy breathing, the clearing of his throat ...

How much we wanna bet that he's going to test positive for COVID right before the first debate so the DNC can weasel him out of it?

Please, they’ll just quarantine him and do a super virtual thing like the conventions

 

[Local Fed]

https://babylonbee.com/news/nfl-to-adorn-all-uniforms-with-lace-doilies-in-to-honor-rbg/

Is it possible we may actually see this happen? I'd love for this satire to come true.

 

[XYZpdq]

Let’s not forget that much like the Asian‘s the various Hispanic groupings often don’t like each other very much.Stuff like national feuds, or enslavement, Rape and genocide Between groups that American Leftists pay little attention to.

and to be fair it's not like every Puerto Rican (tl note Puerto Rican means born in Florida or New York to parents who visited abuela on the island a bunch of times) is firing up the Race War Van to go slaughter Miami, too
like I was buddies with a dude in high school who was PR/Cuba mix

of a "Skeksis" she even looked like one. Her obsession with living forever (like all of the other Skeksis

skesis is catchy for old swamp creatures, I like it

For what it's worth, I think the first step is term limits for Senators, since it's then mandatory to fire them occasionally.

you can become senator, but after your first loss or five terms then it's time for carousel

 

[HumanHive]

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https://babylonbee.com/news/nfl-to-adorn-all-uniforms-with-lace-doilies-in-to-honor-rbg/

Is it possible we may actually see this happen? I'd love for this satire to come true.

Thank God I saw Babylon Bee. I really thought we’d jumped timelines yet again.