2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Trust Me I Know]

I think the Dems switched on positions on mail in voting because their voters were actually falling for this...

 

[Syaoran Li]

That's what concerns me. I've been saying this several times before, but we cannot underestimate the DNC's competence no matter how many mistakes they might make. They are only starting to backpedal from voting by mail because they are seeing that they are being investigated and called out for attempts at voting fraud and that a conservative Supreme Court justice without concerning records like Barbara Lagoa would destroy their plans when brought to the Supreme Court.

Unfortunately, it looks like we are getting Barrett and there is no doubt the Democrats have done their homework to target her. I've watched several interviews on One American News Network (OANN) and it was mind blowing that with all of their hyping for Barrett that none of them brought up any concerns that she might be attacked on her record. They are making the same mistakes the Democratic establishment often makes, which is to underestimate their enemy. If Trump and the Republicans aren't prepared to defend her record - and I'm worried they're not - we're going to be boxed out of far more than just a non-far left Supreme Court nomination and an election. He can't afford another backlash like the coronavirus this close to the election. Even if she does get through, Barnes has suggested she will be another Roberts so can we really trust her to rule against voting fraud when the contested election gets to the Supreme Court?

I guess all we can do is wait until Saturday at 5 PM EST and hope that Trump knows something we don't. It will be hell to get Barrett through the RINOs and no, Romney, Murkowski, and Gardner didn't say they would vote to confirm, only that it would be on qualification.

Part of me wonders if Trump will really go with Barrett this close to the election as opposed to going with Lagoa. Keep in mind that a lot of the hype around Barrett comes from the fact she nearly filled the seat that Brett Kavanaugh currently is sitting on and everyone more or less assumed she's going to replace RBG. The media's been at least partly aware of her being in the running for SCOTUS since 2018.

I still think it's a 50/50 shot of being either Lagoa or Barrett but I'm fairly sure that Trump would know the Democrats have done their homework on her since 2018 and while she's not quite as susceptible to the usual tricks a white male judge would be attacked with, she's a Christian and a very devout one at that and that is more or less political poison to Millennials and gives the DNC a boon to their smear campaigns.

Ideally, I think Trump could let the GOP hype up Barrett and then pick Lagoa since Trump knows how the media game is played and remembers the shitshow of the Kavanaugh hearings. Barrett will probably replace Stephen Breyer or Clarence Thomas if Trump wins a second term.

Part of me also wonders if the poll hyping is part of a wider campaign to get Trump voters to be complacent and stay home thinking he has it in the bag. If it weren't for COVID-19 and the big riots, it'd actually be a good strategy in concept.

I honestly think Biden was picked to be a jobber candidate during the primaries after Tulsi sank Kamala and the DNC had to make sure Bernie didn't get the nomination. Then Corona happened and the DNC were given a golden opportunity to actually take back the White House this year, but I think the BLM coup is probably going to doom those efforts.

Best case scenario, Trump picks Lagoa and we get a quick and easy vote to confirm and the RBG arc is completely resolved by the end of the first week of October.

If Barrett gets picked then I still think they can get all the votes they need to get her confirmed by mid-October but it'll be a bit trickier and there will be more of a media circus. Romney will cuck out if Barrett gets picked but I can see someone like Joe Manchin voting to confirm Barrett more than Lagoa since Manchin is a relic of the Blue Dogs and West Virginia is firmly now a deep red state after spending decades as a staunchly pro-union purple state. Appalachia is one of the few regions in the country where being pro-life is seen as a complete net positive too, so Manchin will vote for Barrett to keep his seat in 2022.

I think Trump can probably get the 51 senators needed to confirm Barrett even if Romney and Gardner go against it provided he can get Manchin to vote for it and Mike Pence be the tie breaker.

Still, I think Trump might do a shocking swerve and go with Lagoa given how contested the big election is going to be and how quickly he wants to get this over with before November. It's not 4D Chess but just basic preparation, The Democrats have been zeroing in on Barrett's religious views already while Lagoa can help him get a boost in Florida.

 

[XYZpdq]

I think he's 4dChessing and it's working them to think it's Not Cuban Chick and then he's all OH FUCK SWERVE IT'S THE CUBAN CHICK so then the media has to yell more about whatever bullshit they come up with like she santeria-ed a puppy or whatever.

 

[Someone Awful]

Part of me wonders if Trump will really go with Barrett this close to the election as opposed to going with Lagoa. Keep in mind that a lot of the hype around Barrett comes from the fact she nearly filled the seat that Brett Kavanaugh currently is sitting on and everyone more or less assumed she's going to replace RBG. The media's been at least partly aware of her being in the running for SCOTUS since 2018.

I still think it's a 50/50 shot of being either Lagoa or Barrett but I'm fairly sure that Trump would know the Democrats have done their homework on her since 2018 and while she's not quite as susceptible to the usual tricks a white male judge would be attacked with, she's a Christian and a very devout one at that and that is more or less political poison to Millennials and gives the DNC a boon to their smear campaigns.

Ideally, I think Trump could let the GOP hype up Barrett and then pick Lagoa since Trump knows how the media game is played and remembers the shitshow of the Kavanaugh hearings. Barrett will probably replace Stephen Breyer or Clarence Thomas if Trump wins a second term.

Part of me also wonders if the poll hyping is part of a wider campaign to get Trump voters to be complacent and stay home thinking he has it in the bag. If it weren't for COVID-19 and the big riots, it'd actually be a good strategy in concept.

I honestly think Biden was picked to be a jobber candidate during the primaries after Tulsi sank Kamala and the DNC had to make sure Bernie didn't get the nomination. Then Corona happened and the DNC were given a golden opportunity to actually take back the White House this year, but I think the BLM coup is probably going to doom those efforts.

Best case scenario, Trump picks Lagoa and we get a quick and easy vote to confirm and the RBG arc is completely resolved by the end of the first week of October.

If Barrett gets picked then I still think they can get all the votes they need to get her confirmed by mid-October but it'll be a bit trickier and there will be more of a media circus. Romney will cuck out if Barrett gets picked but I can see someone like Joe Manchin voting to confirm Barrett more than Lagoa since Manchin is a relic of the Blue Dogs and West Virginia is firmly now a deep red state after spending decades as a staunchly pro-union purple state. Appalachia is one of the few regions in the country where being pro-life is seen as a complete net positive too, so Manchin will vote for Barrett to keep his seat in 2022.

I think Trump can probably get the 51 senators needed to confirm Barrett even if Romney and Gardner go against it provided he can get Manchin to vote for it and Mike Pence be the tie breaker.

Still, I think Trump might do a shocking swerve and go with Lagoa given how contested the big election is going to be and how quickly he wants to get this over with before November. It's not 4D Chess but just basic preparation, The Democrats have been zeroing in on Barrett's religious views already while Lagoa can help him get a boost in Florida.

It's a reasonable assumption. Barrett was literally the second choice for Anthony Kennedy's replacement, Trump just wanted her to have more experience so he went with Kavanaugh instead. I believe that Barrett is Trump's most wanted choice to replace Ginsburg since she is pro-life and came close to being nominated. Even if she is a Roberts, she will vote more conservatively than Ginsburg. Like you said, even if Lagoa gets in the Supreme Court first, once Thomas steps down (Breyer will never give up his seat during a second Trump term), she will be coming in. Of course I consider Lagoa to be a much better choice since we already know she joined the majority in the Florida Supreme Court to strike down allowing felons who haven't paid retribution to vote.

There has been conflicting report on whenever or not Trump will meet with Lagoa. A couple have said Trump will not but one say he will. I personally believe Trump will meet with Lagoa tomorrow, be it at the White House or virtually. You don't consider her a front runner and not meet up with her at least once. I wouldn't be surprised if the second meeting was Trump bringing additional concerns he had with Barrett and I could see him asking questions about the lockdown that he might not have picked up on earlier.

Also Trump need fifty senators, not fifty-one. Three of Romney, Gardner, Murkowski, and Collins could vote "No" but Pence can be a tiebreaker, bringing it up to the fifty-one votes they need to bring the next judge in. Gardner and Collins know that if they vote "No" to Barrett or Lagoa that they will be voted out of office, especially if it cost them a Supreme Court seat and the election.

I still think there's a 50/50 shot one of the RINOs will vote yes to Barrett if it means getting another term or accepting a bribe from McConnell. If she can survive the media circus, I think it will be a net benefit to Trump's electoral chances as the Democrats would have made a major blunder if they can't get all four RINOs to vote "no". The issue is that the risk of being rejected exist and any risk is too high for Trump to be making right now. Nominate Lagoa, get an easy confirmation, and remove the only actual issue they can campaign on a month before the election is the correct path to make. Another issue is, has Barrett ever ruled on voting fraud cases? If not, can we depend to rule in Trump's favor in the event of a contested election? I honestly don't know if we can.

As for Manchin, my concern is that he might not be interested in running for another term or that the Democrats have such a tight grip on him that they will threaten to reveal dirt if he vote "Yes" to her (or Lagoa). It's possible, but I am not holding my breathe for him to help save the nominee like last time.

 

[CrippleThreat]

I think he's 4dChessing and it's working them to think it's Not Cuban Chick and then he's all OH FUCK SWERVE IT'S THE CUBAN CHICK so then the media has to yell more about whatever bullshit they come up with like she santeria-ed a puppy or whatever.

All they have on Lagoa is "inexperience." You know who else was touted for inexperience (primarily because of youth)?
John F. Kennedy. The Dems would have to pull Ford ×5 to stand a chance.

With all of Trump talks with Barrett, the 4D move would be him telling her to pray that he wins, so that when others justices retire, she'll come in, but just for needed politics, Lagoa goes in and he further beats Dems with Latinos.

 

[Someone Awful]

All they have on Lagoa is "inexperience." You know who else was touted for inexperience (primarily because of youth)?
John F. Kennedy. The Dems would have to pull Ford ×5 to stand a chance.

With all of Trump talks with Barrett, the 4D move would be him telling her to pray that he wins, so that when others justices retire, she'll come in, but just for needed politics, Lagoa goes in and he further beats Dems with Latinos.

If (and this is a big if) Lagoa gets nominated and Chuck Schumer is smart, he will order the Democrats to fall in and do a bipartisan confirmation. It would minimize the damage and demoralization it would do to their base and they could continue pivoting towards getting their voters to head to the polls instead of VBM since they would not be able to rely on stealing the election like they are now. No need to drag out a losing battle. I believe that is what will happen.

Good luck to them if they try to pull a media circus though. Especially if they try to pull the race, Catholic, abortion, or anti-LGBT card.

 

[deeplyhigh]

Having trouble getting a local archive, but Robert Barnes was on Infowars today talking about Barrett and Lagoa. Barnes thinks Barrett is a huge mistake because she is a pro-lockdown judge who voted to allow Illinois lockdowns to continue. She cited the Jacobson case as the law of the land as Barr and others are denouncing that case publicly.

 

[heyitsmike]

she's a Christian and a very devout one at that and that is more or less political poison to Millennials and gives the DNC a boon to their smear campaigns.

You're falling for the media narrative. They're both Catholic. So tell me specifically why you think Barrett is more religious than Lagoa. I doubt you have a good answer.

I can almost guarantee that you associate Barrett with being very Catholic because of the barrage of coverage of her being very Catholic. All you hear people talk about is her being Catholic, so you perceive that as her being very Catholic. You don't hear much coverage of Lagoa being Catholic (yet) so you perceive that as her being a less devout Catholic than Barrett. That's the smear campaign you mentioned at work.

It's just like gun control. The media always talks about the NRA, so bystanders perceive them to be behind most of the opposition to gun control. But they're not. There are much more important 2A groups out there, but if you only went by the amount of press, you would never know that.

 

[Lolcow Imperium]

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So uh, yeah. Amazing that right after Ginsberg dies the DNC immediately starts backpedaling on that "everyone must mail in their votes" thing.

It's almost like they had plans on using the SCOTUS to ensure the fix was in.

this entire election is a fucking joke.

 

[Ita Mori]

I really wanted Allison Jones Rushing.

 

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I really wanted Allison Jones Rushing.

I don't know anything about her. That might actually be a plus in her favor.

I think the left spent a lot of time building up oppo research against the Christian lady and the like. But at the same time, she's probably ready to go, and they do need someone fast fast fast.

The brown lady checks IdPol boxes.

Reading TheDonald.win, they seem to be split on the Christian. Lots of bullet point lists about why she's good, followed by bullet point lists as to why she's another Roberts.

 

[PeeveTheSheev]

I honestly don't see any reason to pick Barrett over Lagoa, except maybe experience. The latter is less open to idpol fuckery, has good decisions to her name (including the felon voting bit, which is especially relevant), and will rouse the Cuban base in Florida. You get immediate benefits plus a reliably conservative voice on the SCOTUS for the long term.

And Barrett? A so-so track record who could throw an immediate spanner in the works (she'll be tougher to get through the vote) and is more likely to end up being Roberts with tits.

Unless Trump knows something we don't, he'd be insane to pick Barrett over Lagoa. Saturday can't come soon enough to put this nonsense to bed.

 

[BeboRefugee]

If (and this is a big if) Lagoa gets nominated and Chuck Schumer is smart, he will order the Democrats to fall in and do a bipartisan confirmation. It would minimize the damage and demoralization it would do to their base and they could continue pivoting towards getting their voters to head to the polls instead of VBM since they would not be able to rely on stealing the election like they are now. No need to drag out a losing battle. I believe that is what will happen.

Good luck to them if they try to pull a media circus though. Especially if they try to pull the race, Catholic, abortion, or anti-LGBT card.

Negotiations aren't an option for Schumer anymore. The base is out of control, it would only embolden the socialist/ anti-neolib wing. That's upwards of 30% of their electoral coalition yet has gotten snub after snub after snub.

Firstly, let me congratulate Trump. He's got the media ginned up to attack Barrett AND Lagoa for being Catholics, even though 6 of the 8 incumbent judges are also Catholics. LMAO. Rome wins.
Anyway, this is gonna sound bad but I think Barrett's gonna get snookered out of the nomination. The opposition has spent YEARS digging up dirt on her. She's too risky for the election, they could try and ram her through but the cost will be Democrats getting free ads for Joe. Whereas if they go with Lagoa it'll take a lot to finesse it into a loss for Trump. We're 6 weeks from the election, Lagoa could only be the worse pick if she were implicated in Pizzagate.
Now, if Trump gets a second term, Amy's still in with a shot, but it's a long shot. Clarence Thomas isn't gonna be around forever. He may step down, learning the lesson RBG didn't heed. There, Trump may nominate Amy, but rumours have it he would like a black woman on the court. I think it'd be good for representation's sake that at least 1 SC judge be black, and that be important on a symbolic level regardless of modern race relations.
So where does that leave Amy? Alito's getting up in the years too. I don't think its unreasonable that him or Roberts step down, since 2024 could see a race between store-brand MAGA and AOC larping as a moderate. We just don't know, but its possible Thomas and/or another step down in the next 4 years. Seeing a colleague die such a slow, public death can't be motivating. But look at the picture I'm painting to get Amy on the court. If she gets on now, she may jeopardise Trump's re-election. If Trump passes her over, her hopes may be tied to Trump picking a Thomas replacement and then getting to her.... meaning Trump will have conceivably picked 5/9 Supreme Court Justices. Now imagine being a TDS sufferer and seeing that future staring you down... sounds fun..

 

[Shroom King]

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"White genocide is just a foolish conspiracy, goy. Go back to sleep." - the globohomo

 

[CrippleThreat]

No word on Biden yet (might see him or Harris in the afternoon). However, Trump is holding another Latino roundtable in Florida.

The Lagoa postulations are making me think...

 

[Surprised Pikachu]

Just been listening to P.J. O’Rourke on the Chris Stigall podcast (based Pennsylvania radio talk show host) and it was weird - P.J. thinks the Dems will win the House, Senate AND Presidency.

Now it’s one thing hearing the crazy Leftists mutter their insane election predictions but it’s quite another hearing someone you quite like and enjoy talk complete shite. I know PJ’s politics, he’s a Washington Post columnist ffs but there was just something about hearing the words come from his mouth, knowing he believed in it and my astonishment at how anyone could be so retarded. And because he’s someone I like and believe is politically informed (if mistaken) there’s now a tiny part of me questioning myself and wondering if he might be right..

I want back in my bubble.

 

[Stoneheart]

I dont see why people are talking about a landslide for trump? i cant get him above 350, even with very favourable turnout in some states. thats good but not a landslide.

 

[UselessIdiot]

I dont see why people are talking about a landslide for trump? i cant get him above 350, even with very favourable turnout in some states. thats good but not a landslide.

I've never thought a landslide was possible -- too much opposition. It would be great if he were able to keep the 2016 electoral map, and then maybe grab Minnesota too.

 

[GuntPunt]

I dont see why people are talking about a landslide for trump? i cant get him above 350, even with very favourable turnout in some states. thats good but not a landslide.

Unless either candidate collapses (either physically or politically), you aren't going to get either a ~360 or more for Biden (Obama level support) or ~330 or more support for Trump. These extreme levels are already pushing what is likely going to happen. Neither is going to hit over 350 EVs.

 

[Stoneheart]

or ~330 or more support for Trump. These extreme levels are already pushing what is likely going to happen.

352 is the max for trump in a good night. thats all states he can flip without Biden collapsing. it would take him +2 nation wide to do that.