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God that line still cracks me up. It's right up there with "Pokeball- oh sorry.. Doughnut, go!"
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Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon
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Yeah, I remember when they held hands and sing to fire the rainbow laser at Trigon and had an ice cream party after redeeming the villain
without drama, without reflections, without fear, without struggles or sacrifices
a walk in the park
Tricked ourselves to like it? FUCK OFF
she really thinks that only she knows that Teen Titans has contrast and everyone is just too dumb to know the "TRUE REASON".
never assume why someone likes something without even hearing the other argument or worse, believe in a strawmen created from his own distortion of the facts (99% giddy and happy WTF?)
bonus:
"make it a lot harder for them to justify extrajudicial murder"
you think that every vigilante would not act in his own interest. attack innocents for not doing research right, let bias interfere in their judgement, abuse violence and then flee in anonymity?
"It’s just a really fabulous citizen’s arrest."
stop fantasizing about justice, not everything can be solved by punching the bad guy, the situation in the film is not police work IN REAL LIFE and it would not be so smart to react to dangerous criminals in tight clothing IN REAL LIFE, no one has the help of powers and different alternative versions of yourself IN REAL LIFE
if you want to criticize the fine police, there is evidence of real problems that can be fixed, but you cannot demand perfection and super powers in a job with different dangers in different situations.
why not criticize doctors for not knowing healing magic?
"make it a lot harder for them to justify extrajudicial murder"
you think that every vigilante would not act in his own interest. attack innocents for not doing research right, let bias interfere in their judgement, abuse violence and then flee in anonymity?
"It’s just a really fabulous citizen’s arrest."
stop fantasizing about justice, not everything can be solved by punching the bad guy, the situation in the film is not police work IN REAL LIFE and it would not be so smart to react to dangerous criminals in tight clothing IN REAL LIFE, no one has the help of powers and different alternative versions of yourself IN REAL LIFE
if you want to criticize the fine police, there is evidence of real problems that can be fixed, but you cannot demand perfection and super powers in a job with different dangers in different situations.
why not criticize doctors for not knowing healing magic?
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TheAmbiguousLurker
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I dunno, I just can't see any reason for the police to not like a masked vigilante that displays skills and tech that vastly overpowers them, with no identity to hold accountable nor any officials to answer to, other than the heroes denying their murder boners. Next you'll be telling me that people have cause to be afraid of children born with unstable and destructive super powers with no knowledge of how to control them.
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So I'm gonna yet again see how much I can give everyone all the details of the chapter in as few paragraphs as physically possible.
I'm not rating this any number between 1 and 10 out of 10
I'm shocked how little there is to actually discuss in this chapter/10
At this rate I bet I can summarize the final chapter as one sentence.
So here's the minor detail about the chapter.
we get
her claiming independence, and thats basically it.
Rey gives Aliana her gift prosthetic leg. They do cute couple shit.
Oh, and The First order has an idea of where the fuck Rey, Aliana and the Resistance are hiding because you know. A fuckton of ships all just warped in on top of a single planet all at once.
Also Aliana, Leia, and Holdo all have a discussion with Finn about the prospect of trying to get more force sensitives and training them, but the problem being they only have one "Master" and that's Aliana, which means Leia immediately drops the idea all together.
and now I'm going to dedicated the rest of the break down of chapter 31 to this.
In chapter 31. Aliana discovers the Force bond has been reopened. She also states she can not close it off again. Whats worth noting is that Lily has chosen to explain the mechanics of the bond; Rey and Kylo's powers go up conversely with each other. "They share a soul" is effectively what Aliana says. But of course inversely;
So the irony of course is that even though the mechanics explicitly show that they both become more powerful because the other is training Rey is able to more actively use it because "training"
And there are moments in the 31st chapter that show that the very act of Kylo Ren practicing minute force skills in order to be able to do more precise things like "tie a string with the force" is causing Rey's powers to go fucking nuts "force lightning over loading power conduits" So I feel I am to infer that Lily wants us to believe the inverse is occuring when it comes to training.
And now to go on a tangent and maybe perhaps reveal a little more about myself than I should; sometimes I think about these breakdown posts well in advanced; I skimmed chapter 31 the moment I finished chapter 30 so I could get an idea of what I'll be forcing myelf through, and sometimes I think about how to make a witty joke about moments Iknow I will hate.
Furthermore: and mock me if you like but a guilty pleasure is I really like moviebobs movie revies and I kind of dig his view of Episode 7's "The plot is literally a metaphore for what its' like being made the star/director/producer/whatever of a legacy brand like star wars"
And I'm thinking abotu all these things, and Lily writing this story as a spite driven diss at the ReyLo demographic and how the force is written with an vague and ill-defined kind of sentience and it suddenly hits me.
Lily Orchard is depicting The Force itself as an omnipresent ReyLo Shipper.
The Force is wanting to push Rey and Kylo Ren into some sort of relationship in the hopes it will make Kylo Ren reform and stop being evil. This is how Lily views Reylo's. Rey is slowly developing a hatred for the force itself, because it ruins her autonomy and is trying to force her into a heterosexual relationship and she is a lesbian (even though we never once have any confirmation of her sexuality in canon, but I'm not here to try to validate that) and we all know Lily hates straight men the most of anyone. Lily hates the "enemies to lovers trope" and The Force is literally trying to push two people diametrically opposed in every sense of the word (in this version of the story anyway) into being together in some way.
The Force is literally "The ReyLo ship and shippers" presented as a literal force of nature.
is this a surprise? that yet another thing ties back to lily's desire to dunk on ReyLo's and Kylo Ren, and those two things alone? No. but it's boggling that lily is willing to go so far as to depict The Force itself as a metaphore in that vein
None of this should be surprising given we've seen how petty Lily has proven herself to be, and yet good god it's kind of amazing how dedicated she is to making sure you get how much she hates Kylo Ren. It drips out of the spine and every page of this "book"
it's just amazing how far she's willing to go with it.
we get
her claiming independence, and thats basically it.
Rey gives Aliana her gift prosthetic leg. They do cute couple shit.
Oh, and The First order has an idea of where the fuck Rey, Aliana and the Resistance are hiding because you know. A fuckton of ships all just warped in on top of a single planet all at once.
Also Aliana, Leia, and Holdo all have a discussion with Finn about the prospect of trying to get more force sensitives and training them, but the problem being they only have one "Master" and that's Aliana, which means Leia immediately drops the idea all together.
and now I'm going to dedicated the rest of the break down of chapter 31 to this.
In chapter 31. Aliana discovers the Force bond has been reopened. She also states she can not close it off again. Whats worth noting is that Lily has chosen to explain the mechanics of the bond; Rey and Kylo's powers go up conversely with each other. "They share a soul" is effectively what Aliana says. But of course inversely;
So the irony of course is that even though the mechanics explicitly show that they both become more powerful because the other is training Rey is able to more actively use it because "training"
And there are moments in the 31st chapter that show that the very act of Kylo Ren practicing minute force skills in order to be able to do more precise things like "tie a string with the force" is causing Rey's powers to go fucking nuts "force lightning over loading power conduits" So I feel I am to infer that Lily wants us to believe the inverse is occuring when it comes to training.
And now to go on a tangent and maybe perhaps reveal a little more about myself than I should; sometimes I think about these breakdown posts well in advanced; I skimmed chapter 31 the moment I finished chapter 30 so I could get an idea of what I'll be forcing myelf through, and sometimes I think about how to make a witty joke about moments Iknow I will hate.
Furthermore: and mock me if you like but a guilty pleasure is I really like moviebobs movie revies and I kind of dig his view of Episode 7's "The plot is literally a metaphore for what its' like being made the star/director/producer/whatever of a legacy brand like star wars"
And I'm thinking abotu all these things, and Lily writing this story as a spite driven diss at the ReyLo demographic and how the force is written with an vague and ill-defined kind of sentience and it suddenly hits me.
Lily Orchard is depicting The Force itself as an omnipresent ReyLo Shipper.
The Force is wanting to push Rey and Kylo Ren into some sort of relationship in the hopes it will make Kylo Ren reform and stop being evil. This is how Lily views Reylo's. Rey is slowly developing a hatred for the force itself, because it ruins her autonomy and is trying to force her into a heterosexual relationship and she is a lesbian (even though we never once have any confirmation of her sexuality in canon, but I'm not here to try to validate that) and we all know Lily hates straight men the most of anyone. Lily hates the "enemies to lovers trope" and The Force is literally trying to push two people diametrically opposed in every sense of the word (in this version of the story anyway) into being together in some way.
The Force is literally "The ReyLo ship and shippers" presented as a literal force of nature.
is this a surprise? that yet another thing ties back to lily's desire to dunk on ReyLo's and Kylo Ren, and those two things alone? No. but it's boggling that lily is willing to go so far as to depict The Force itself as a metaphore in that vein
None of this should be surprising given we've seen how petty Lily has proven herself to be, and yet good god it's kind of amazing how dedicated she is to making sure you get how much she hates Kylo Ren. It drips out of the spine and every page of this "book"
it's just amazing how far she's willing to go with it.
All of this.
Kylo Ren decided to carry through with Faking the return of Emperor Palpatine. here's my prediction for that; Kylo Ren manages to pull it off and make it look convincing. it makes everyone panic for all of a day before Aliana says something cool and convincing to make everyone feel better. something like "If Darth Sidious had returned, I would have felt it long before he anounced it." or something
Anakin Skywalkers force ghost shows up solely to say "You're right, I tried to talk to him, Ben is a lost cause, you have my permission and blessing to murder him" To Aliana.
Oh and also we find out Darth Vader killed Aliana's grandmother. Doubling down hard on the fact that Lily's only answer to make Aliana and her family interesting is to make it known that they clashed with the skywalkers multiple times through out the course of their respective histories. But yeah Aliana totally isn't a mary sue.
Lily's idea that Aliana's family being a line strong powerful warrior women is cool, right up until they do the stereotypical "Dying to motivate someone who loves them" thing that a lot of progressives tend to think is in fact (and I sort of agree with the idea) kind of yikes, and it is sort of hilarious that lily thinks this is a family that the Star Wars universe needs.
That's quite literally the whole chapter..
Kylo Ren decided to carry through with Faking the return of Emperor Palpatine. here's my prediction for that; Kylo Ren manages to pull it off and make it look convincing. it makes everyone panic for all of a day before Aliana says something cool and convincing to make everyone feel better. something like "If Darth Sidious had returned, I would have felt it long before he anounced it." or something
Anakin Skywalkers force ghost shows up solely to say "You're right, I tried to talk to him, Ben is a lost cause, you have my permission and blessing to murder him" To Aliana.
Oh and also we find out Darth Vader killed Aliana's grandmother. Doubling down hard on the fact that Lily's only answer to make Aliana and her family interesting is to make it known that they clashed with the skywalkers multiple times through out the course of their respective histories. But yeah Aliana totally isn't a mary sue.
Lily's idea that Aliana's family being a line strong powerful warrior women is cool, right up until they do the stereotypical "Dying to motivate someone who loves them" thing that a lot of progressives tend to think is in fact (and I sort of agree with the idea) kind of yikes, and it is sort of hilarious that lily thinks this is a family that the Star Wars universe needs.
That's quite literally the whole chapter..
At this rate I bet I can summarize the final chapter as one sentence.
TheAmbiguousLurker
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"Strength in the force on par with Lord Tenebrae"
Oh fuck off. Lord Tenebrae is the Sith Emperor of the Old Republic era, he is wanked into oblivion by the lore and is basically a God, one of the strongest force users in existence who ATE PLANETS faster that Darth Nihlus. His power is so mighty he corrupted jedi masters and even members of the jedi council using his darkness, his very essence caused multiple sith to go insane and become the Dread Masters that excelled in bending incredible force users to their will. Dude dominated the mind of Revan, a guy who is also wanked high in the lore. What I'm saying here is that Lilly has taken a character who is already ridiculous in how vast and bullshit his power (which he got from years of consuming life and dark rituals) is and has gone "And that's just the BASELINE power that Rey was BORN with and she'll get a shit-ton stronger"
Also, his name is Vitiate. Nobody would be calling him by his birth name (since he killed everyone on the planet he was born on), everyone knows him as either Vitiate or Valkorian, he had most certainly stopped being called Tenebrae by the time he was made a Lord.
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I mean if we're going to be real here Aliana's blood line hails back to Lana Beniko from the same mmo, so it's not worth getting surprised that lily's baseline for "good star wars" is giong to be an mmo that isn't canon or even referenced outside it's own series.
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That brings up another failure of her writing; Lore expectation. She drops a lot of lore references in this story without ever explaining them, so a lot of the audience who haven't engaged with much Star Wars outside of the movies get nothing from said scenes. Saying Rey is comparable to Vitiate means jack to someone who hasn't played the MMO. Starkiller being there means nothing to someone who hasn't played force unleashed. Name dropping Kreia like the audience should immediately understand how she connects to said scene means nothing to those who haven't played KOTOR 2.
Also, considering how much Lilly loves referencing the old republic, I'm surprised we haven't heard her bitch about the character Prince Arcann since he was basically Kylo before Kylo existed. Except he actually gets to kick the player's ass a few times, so I imagine that must have pissed Lilly off.
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why mention a possibility of an incestuous lesbian relationship?
nobody forced it but Lily wrote because it is the standard, I think
I'm sure Lily, a few chapters ago, said that the Force has nothing to do with bloodlines, and everything is random but Aliana's family is all strong and powerful and totally relevant in the Star Wars Universe, more than the Skywalkers
(which is strange since they are all obviously lesbians, how did they have children?)
I don't know if Lily is trying to build hype for a really intimidating and threatening Kylo Ren (taking into account that all scenes with him are designed precisely to humiliate and laugh at his incompetence), but to say that now Rey has infinite power + 7 is no different as she had no struggle with the Force in the beginning, and now she has to be careful not to explode planets by trying to move cups of tea
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Wasn’t the rule “If the intro is in English, serious and/or plot related stuff. If it’s in Japanese, goofy silly one-off”?
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Yes. The Japanese theme usually meant you were getting a fun, lighthearted filler episode. The English theme was used for the more serious episodes.
It's actually kind of brilliant, thb. It lets you know exactly what sort of experience you're in for each time you watch the show.
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Sure is weird that Lily really felt it was necessary to throw in lesbian incest talk when it would have been so easy to just not.
I dunno guys. Between this, shit from Stockholm, and her wanting Magselyn to fuck her own mom, I feel like Lily might have a fixation. A... fetish, if you will.
Especially this line:
Rey and Aliana are being active turned on by contemplating being in an incestuous relationship with each other.
So, um... what the fuck.
Second, this isn't how... people work? If they had grown up specifically as sisters, being super-lesbians doesn't mean they would look at literally any other attractive woman and start thinking about hitting that. Actual sisters where one of them is a lesbian don't regularly do this. A brother and sister pair where they're both heterosexual don't regularly fantasize about fucking each other. But now she's making an implication through dialogue (since she probably can't get away with writing the scene) that Rey and Aliana would have 100% been 'experimenting' with each other, as children, while they were in a familial relationship.
So, again... what the fuck.
Finally... I admit, this is pretty innocuous next to the horror show up above, and I might be misremembering, but I swear Lily implied that Rey had been so sheltered and isolated she didn't understand the concept of lesbians or homosexuals (nor did Finn) until Aliana showed up and started grooming her. An argument might be made that she was deeply sheltered to the point that she just never had a chance to experience these feelings, but if she's now describing herself as being 'too into women to not fantasize <about fucking my hypothetical sister>', then wouldn't this mean that basically any time she went to sell junk or restock supplies and ran into even a vaguely-attractive humanoid she would've been into that? Is her eye wandering to other women now? What does 'too into women' even mean?
I dunno guys. Between this, shit from Stockholm, and her wanting Magselyn to fuck her own mom, I feel like Lily might have a fixation. A... fetish, if you will.
Especially this line:
I mean first of all, this isn't even incest. The ages I think the characters were at at the time would be old enough that they would probably fall into 'childhood friends' territory, which now that I think about it makes this whole conversation baffling. Lily loves the 'childhood friends to romantic partners' trope and bitches and whines when it's right there and people prefer things like 'enemies to lovers', but she has it right there and is instead focusing on having a conversation about what it would be like if Rey and Aliana were actually into incest... and then has them call it a 'romantic' conversation.
Rey and Aliana are being active turned on by contemplating being in an incestuous relationship with each other.
So, um... what the fuck.
Second, this isn't how... people work? If they had grown up specifically as sisters, being super-lesbians doesn't mean they would look at literally any other attractive woman and start thinking about hitting that. Actual sisters where one of them is a lesbian don't regularly do this. A brother and sister pair where they're both heterosexual don't regularly fantasize about fucking each other. But now she's making an implication through dialogue (since she probably can't get away with writing the scene) that Rey and Aliana would have 100% been 'experimenting' with each other, as children, while they were in a familial relationship.
So, again... what the fuck.
Finally... I admit, this is pretty innocuous next to the horror show up above, and I might be misremembering, but I swear Lily implied that Rey had been so sheltered and isolated she didn't understand the concept of lesbians or homosexuals (nor did Finn) until Aliana showed up and started grooming her. An argument might be made that she was deeply sheltered to the point that she just never had a chance to experience these feelings, but if she's now describing herself as being 'too into women to not fantasize <about fucking my hypothetical sister>', then wouldn't this mean that basically any time she went to sell junk or restock supplies and ran into even a vaguely-attractive humanoid she would've been into that? Is her eye wandering to other women now? What does 'too into women' even mean?
I don't know anybody else but the thing that convinces me about a relationship is when the people involved actively tell each other they're compatible and perfect. I sure am glad I don't have to make inferences from their interactions or dialogue.
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Lily is in no position to talk about off putting ships when her tumblr is infested with that gross comic of her self insert being in love with an abusive Gardevoir.
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As someone who thinks Teen Titans is a bit overrated, that is one of the worst takes I've seen on the show. Like, did she just skip the episode where they talk about racism or Raven facing her fears after watching a scary movie? Or the one where Beast Boy found out his girlfriend was working with Slade to betray him? Heck, that's not including the one where Beast Boy becomes a raging feral animal after getting doused with lab chemicals. I can go all day with this one.
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Liliana had already presented the idea that Lalaina had thought about fucking Rey like a sister chapters ago. I thought that was just a little slip up of her, a disgusting comment that at least was made in passing so no one would pay too much attention to it and Liliana would be satisfied with getting away with it like that.
But she must have wanted more than that so now there is an entire conversation all about exploring how Rey would have been totally okay with being the experimental sex toy of her almost 10 years older "sister" and they both get terribly horny about the thought, because the fantasy is not completed without the younger party also wanting to be taken by the older one.
One thing I'll grant to Liliana is that she never did rape or abuse escenes as graphically as of "consentual pedophilia", although the mere fact that pedophilia is considered something that a child could want imposed on them is already deeply disturbing as it is. She clearly prefers more when both the characters wanted it, which is why Stockholm was full of horny preteens/teens fantasizing about being with adults and each other. Also the reason why G could take advantage of ComicLiliana's to form the bond. Teen Comic!Liliana wanted it and that is how it happened.
But she must have wanted more than that so now there is an entire conversation all about exploring how Rey would have been totally okay with being the experimental sex toy of her almost 10 years older "sister" and they both get terribly horny about the thought, because the fantasy is not completed without the younger party also wanting to be taken by the older one.
One thing I'll grant to Liliana is that she never did rape or abuse escenes as graphically as of "consentual pedophilia", although the mere fact that pedophilia is considered something that a child could want imposed on them is already deeply disturbing as it is. She clearly prefers more when both the characters wanted it, which is why Stockholm was full of horny preteens/teens fantasizing about being with adults and each other. Also the reason why G could take advantage of ComicLiliana's to form the bond. Teen Comic!Liliana wanted it and that is how it happened.
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TheAmbiguousLurker
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All of her ships are far more off putting than Ashoka and Anakin. At least that one doesn't involve grooming.
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Rule of thumb for hack critics: Ignore things that don't suit your argument. Accentuate the negatives, downplay the positives.
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I am aware that hating white people is the SJW thing, but going on a conspiracy theory that darker-skinned black female are slowly being "erased" with biracial females will not have an adequate or moral conclusion
what do they want, discriminate against light skin color, accuse them for not being black enough, put "blackness" in a spectrum to segregate those who are not "pure", deny them jobs because of their races?
take a step back, breathe, and think more than twice or more than a few seconds before saying shit you can't delete
I am aware that hating white people is the SJW thing, but going on a conspiracy theory that darker-skinned black female are slowly being "erased" with biracial females will not have an adequate or moral conclusion
what do they want, discriminate against light skin color, accuse them for not being black enough, put "blackness" in a spectrum to segregate those who are not "pure", deny them jobs because of their races?
take a step back, breathe, and think more than twice or more than a few seconds before saying shit you can't delete
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The only progressive move is to push against interracial relations.
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Change a white character to black? That's fine.
So much as lighten a black character's skin and the autistic screeching will never fucking cease.
So much as lighten a black character's skin and the autistic screeching will never fucking cease.
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This is just obsessive. When magazines and promotional images are photoshopping black women to look lighter/less black yeah that’s a real fucking problem. But this? This feels insulting to all these actresses. You really gonna tell biracial kids they’re not black enough? You’re gonna make it sound like they only got a job by not being black enough? Oh yeah that sounds real progressive. Whether or not someone biracial identifies as black is up to them, not some idiot looking for internet points.
Just another example of SJWs being hilariously racist. They just want to have the hottest most progressive take they can think of, but they’re not actually progressive and think all it takes is buzzwords and cancel culture.
The Tiana one pisses me off a little too. All the princesses are designed to fit the Wreck-It Ralph style, none of them look exactly like their official models. But it appears they altered her before the movie came out anyway.
Meanwhile the complaints about them making Merida a one note joke didn’t get as much play.