Porn and Porncows

[moocow]

So this happened

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Anyone who genuinely believes any porn star who later "recants," expresses deep regret about their porn career and takes open swipes at the porn industry is actually serious is a sucker.

It's always for attention. All the way back to Linda Lovelace's dramatic exit from the industry after her debut in Deep Throat, when she accused the filmmakers of everything from drugging her to being cultists (IIRC), it's always been nothing more than theatrics for attention. It sets the stage for "triumphant returns" to the industry, too. Drums up business. There's always money in it.

Bree Olson is another more contemporary example. She did how many hundreds of scenes before making a sudden heel-face turn and declaring the whole thing is monstrous and abusive? I wouldn't be surprised if she jumps back in and start shooting new scenes again before she hits the wall. I know she kept doing Onlyfans-style stuff even after her infamous tear-filled video denouncing the porn industry.

It's not like you're stuck once you've gone into porn. Plenty of women do the one-and-done thing -- they shoot a scene, decide they don't like it (it was uncomfortable or unpleasant, it didn't pay well enough, they suddenly feel embarrassed once the scene goes public, etc.), and walk away. No harm no foul. Nobody even bats an eye at that. And they rarely pull these stunts when they quit, either, because they're serious about being done. It seems you only ever get these "the porn industry is awful!" rants from people who plan to go back into it later.

Mia sure didn't seem to be miserable during her scenes, and I'm sure she had no problem cashing the checks. I guarantee you this was all planned ahead of time. Become infamous, shoot some porn scenes, make a dramatic exit, and when the attention (and income) starts waning again, go right back to porn for the "redemption arc." She'll ignore everyone who calls her a hypocrite (even though she is one -- they always are when they do this) and rake in the dough in the new gig.

It's just the nature of the industry. I don't think the industry really ever blacklists anyone even when they pull this stunt. There's always someone willing to work with them when they want to come back. The only exceptions I've ever heard of involve performers who cause real legal problems (Linda Lovelace, Traci Lords, etc.). They're not welcome, simply because they nearly put people in prison.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Anyone who genuinely believes any porn star who later "recants," expresses deep regret about their porn career and takes open swipes at the porn industry is actually serious is a sucker.

It's always for attention. All the way back to Linda Lovelace's dramatic exit from the industry after her debut in Deep Throat, when she accused the filmmakers of everything from drugging her to being cultists (IIRC), it's always been nothing more than theatrics for attention. It sets the stage for "triumphant returns" to the industry, too. Drums up business. There's always money in it.

Bree Olson is another more contemporary example. She did how many hundreds of scenes before making a sudden heel-face turn and declaring the whole thing is monstrous and abusive? I wouldn't be surprised if she jumps back in and start shooting new scenes again before she hits the wall. I know she kept doing Onlyfans-style stuff even after her infamous tear-filled video denouncing the porn industry.

It's not like you're stuck once you've gone into porn. Plenty of women do the one-and-done thing -- they shoot a scene, decide they don't like it (it was uncomfortable or unpleasant, it didn't pay well enough, they suddenly feel embarrassed once the scene goes public, etc.), and walk away. No harm no foul. Nobody even bats an eye at that. And they rarely pull these stunts when they quit, either, because they're serious about being done. It seems you only ever get these "the porn industry is awful!" rants from people who plan to go back into it later.

Mia sure didn't seem to be miserable during her scenes, and I'm sure she had no problem cashing the checks. I guarantee you this was all planned ahead of time. Become infamous, shoot some porn scenes, make a dramatic exit, and when the attention (and income) starts waning again, go right back to porn for the "redemption arc." She'll ignore everyone who calls her a hypocrite (even though she is one -- they always are when they do this) and rake in the dough in the new gig.

It's just the nature of the industry. I don't think the industry really ever blacklists anyone even when they pull this stunt. There's always someone willing to work with them when they want to come back. The only exceptions I've ever heard of involve performers who cause real legal problems (Linda Lovelace, Traci Lords, etc.). They're not welcome, simply because they nearly put people in prison.

Isn’t the appeal of Onlyfans that you make fap material on your terms? I can see why it took off if that’s the case.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Anyone who genuinely believes any porn star who later "recants," expresses deep regret about their porn career and takes open swipes at the porn industry is actually serious is a sucker.

It used to be a way to be allowed into proper society again, confess your sins and repent. Pink Cross have been mentioned before and that was straight up their racket. They could provide housing, some income and pave the way to a job, but only if they 'testified' on video and became christians.

If someone is thinking about a normal life and having kids, then dealing with soccer moms at school/daycare, it's an easy choice no matter how true it is.

 

[moocow]

Isn’t the appeal of Onlyfans that you make fap material on your terms? I can see why it took off if that’s the case.

That's true, but porn production is pretty much the same way. With very few controversial exceptions, performers don't step onto the set blind. They know what they're walking into. Even those "abuse" videos are staged. A performer might not know exactly what awful things will be said or done but she still has a pretty good idea of what's coming. A vanilla mainstream sex performance doesn't just spontaneously turn into a puke/scat scene "by surprise" unless everyone's in on it. Performers don't do things they don't want to do.

The whole "woman gets pressured/drugged/tricked into performing, then the scene changes halfway through into something not discussed before hand that she doesn't want but is pressured to do" thing is largely an urban myth. If you actually see that happen during a scene, it's fake (even the dumbest abuser wouldn't release video evidence of a crime to the public). On the rare occasion someone tries it for real, they tend to get caught and exposed. The industry doesn't tolerate it; it's just not worth the hassle and bad press when there's countless other performers out there willing to do edgy stuff without being pressured.

 

[Slimy Time]

Anyone who genuinely believes any porn star who later "recants," expresses deep regret about their porn career and takes open swipes at the porn industry is actually serious is a sucker.

It's always for attention. All the way back to Linda Lovelace's dramatic exit from the industry after her debut in Deep Throat, when she accused the filmmakers of everything from drugging her to being cultists (IIRC), it's always been nothing more than theatrics for attention. It sets the stage for "triumphant returns" to the industry, too. Drums up business. There's always money in it.

Bree Olson is another more contemporary example. She did how many hundreds of scenes before making a sudden heel-face turn and declaring the whole thing is monstrous and abusive? I wouldn't be surprised if she jumps back in and start shooting new scenes again before she hits the wall. I know she kept doing Onlyfans-style stuff even after her infamous tear-filled video denouncing the porn industry.

It's not like you're stuck once you've gone into porn. Plenty of women do the one-and-done thing -- they shoot a scene, decide they don't like it (it was uncomfortable or unpleasant, it didn't pay well enough, they suddenly feel embarrassed once the scene goes public, etc.), and walk away. No harm no foul. Nobody even bats an eye at that. And they rarely pull these stunts when they quit, either, because they're serious about being done. It seems you only ever get these "the porn industry is awful!" rants from people who plan to go back into it later.

Mia sure didn't seem to be miserable during her scenes, and I'm sure she had no problem cashing the checks. I guarantee you this was all planned ahead of time. Become infamous, shoot some porn scenes, make a dramatic exit, and when the attention (and income) starts waning again, go right back to porn for the "redemption arc." She'll ignore everyone who calls her a hypocrite (even though she is one -- they always are when they do this) and rake in the dough in the new gig.

It's just the nature of the industry. I don't think the industry really ever blacklists anyone even when they pull this stunt. There's always someone willing to work with them when they want to come back. The only exceptions I've ever heard of involve performers who cause real legal problems (Linda Lovelace, Traci Lords, etc.). They're not welcome, simply because they nearly put people in prison.

Mia built a following and reputation off her short stint being an arab in the industry, if it was as bad as she says, she should bin the pornstar name she built her reputation on. It's the reason why pornstars pick these names, so they can quit and try to return to some form of normalcy. Of course not, she keeps the pornstar name and sets up an onlyfans. It's always posturing.

 

[AngryItalianAmerican]

Isn’t the appeal of Onlyfans that you make fap material on your terms? I can see why it took off if that’s the case.

Bitch, please.

Belladonna was publishing porn on her own terms since 2004 up to her retirement in early 2012. Although she was the exception rather than the rule, she actually put the legwork and built her own site that was practically proto-Onlyfans.

Surprisingly, when she retired she didn't mutter a mumbling word and disappeared without leaving trace, proving that you can be a whore without necesarily being an attention whore.

 

[A Pox]

Bree Olson is another more contemporary example. She did how many hundreds of scenes before making a sudden heel-face turn and declaring the whole thing is monstrous and abusive? I wouldn't be surprised if she jumps back in and start shooting new scenes again before she hits the wall. I know she kept doing Onlyfans-style stuff even after her infamous tear-filled video denouncing the porn industry.

Bree Olson was one of Charlie Sheen's whores and use to constantly post on Twitter about rawdogging randos. She 100% has HIV.

 

[A Grey Cat]

I love how at the end of a Piper Peri video (not the one that got memed to hell and back) one of the nigs she was doing says "no child support claims from you." Its amazing how even in porn the darkies know what they do makes them reprehensible people and yet they do it anyway and even shamelessly revel in it.

 

[Random Internet Person]

I love how at the end of a Piper Peri video (not the one that got memed to hell and back) one of the nigs she was doing says "no child support claims from you." Its amazing how even in porn the darkies know what they do makes them reprehensible people and yet they do it anyway and even shamelessly revel in it.

Isn't part of the appeal the fantasy of doing what you want in the bedroom with no repercussions? Or jumping on whatever hot person you see no strings attached?

 

[2021Murder]

Isn’t the appeal of Onlyfans that you make fap material on your terms? I can see why it took off if that’s the case.

Pretty much IIRC pornstars make almost no residuals from doing sites but get all the money if they make it themselves and even major porn studios just shoot out of rented houses now, it's not like you're building sets like the 90s. Plus the weirdos will pay like 5-20 dollars for one video which adds up over time.

Having said that its clear onlyfans is basically soundcloud for sluts, to hit the top 10% you have to clear like $600 a month. Top 3% is 2k a month which is essentially minimum wage. The vast majority of women are in it for the prestige of saying theyre sex workers. But its not even enough to cover living expenses.

Bitch, please.

Belladonna was publishing porn on her own terms since 2004 up to her retirement in early 2012. Although she was the exception rather than the rule, she actually put the legwork and built her own site that was practically proto-Onlyfans.

Surprisingly, when she retired she didn't mutter a mumbling word and disappeared without leaving trace, proving that you can be a whore without necesarily being an attention whore.

The difference is most people dont know webmasters or want to bother with payment processors or paying for bandwidth. Thats why sites like reddit replaced forums, its easier to piggyback off a major service that does all the technical stuff. You make more money the other way but its not as fun. No college age girl wants to deal with server problems.

 

[Slimy Time]

I love how at the end of a Piper Peri video (not the one that got memed to hell and back) one of the nigs she was doing says "no child support claims from you." Its amazing how even in porn the darkies know what they do makes them reprehensible people and yet they do it anyway and even shamelessly revel in it.

Reminds me of that efukt video of a porn actor playing the role of white supremacist, and giving reperations by letting a black man fuck his girlfriend. Non stop calling the black porn actor a "nigger", damn funny.

 

[Lick Joe]

https://lostmediawiki.com/The_Exxxceptions:_Episode_6_(partially_found_pornographic_video;_2017)

Honestly kinda shocked they never published the video given the industry. Kinda amazing how much porn is just missing for various reasons.

Isn’t the appeal of Onlyfans that you make fap material on your terms? I can see why it took off if that’s the case.

My view from what I've seen is that it's how thots used to use Patreon before they started that brief crackdown on lewd shit (thotauditing).

 

[Random Internet Person]

The difference is most people dont know webmasters or want to bother with payment processors or paying for bandwidth. Thats why sites like reddit replaced forums, its easier to piggyback off a major service that does all the technical stuff. You make more money the other way but its not as fun. No college age girl wants to deal with server problems.

So...kudos to @Null for dealing with all the shit necessary for us to talk about this shit?

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Pretty much IIRC pornstars make almost no residuals from doing sites but get all the money if they make it themselves and even major porn studios just shoot out of rented houses now, it's not like you're building sets like the 90s. Plus the weirdos will pay like 5-20 dollars for one video which adds up over time

Speaking of weirdos and houses, I might be conflating different shows here but I think a swedish comedy duo went to a porn set somewhere in LA and roped in two writers from Friends to come along to act as impromptu script doctors. The big mansion they shot in belonged to a rich couple in their 50's that repeatedly lent it to the company filming porn on the condition that they could watch. The Friends writers turned into dorky wallflowers sitting in a "keep your hands, arms and legs inside the ride at all times" pose on a couch in the corner.

 

[Syaoran Li]

https://lostmediawiki.com/The_Exxxceptions:_Episode_6_(partially_found_pornographic_video;_2017)

Honestly kinda shocked they never published the video given the industry. Kinda amazing how much porn is just missing for various reasons.
My view from what I've seen is that it's how thots used to use Patreon before they started that brief crackdown on lewd shit (thotauditing).

A lot of porn from the 70's and early 80's is lost or obscure. Same goes for a lot of the Japanese porn, hentai, and extreme horror from the 80's and 90's VHS era. The infamous "Go For A Punch" guro anime is a well-known example and apparently, it's very recently been confirmed to exist and we even have a release date (Winter 1986) making it one of the early hentai titles of the OVA Boom but we still haven't found the footage itself.

One hardcore gore fetish movie from Japan in the early 90's was presumed to be damn near lost with only three surviving VHS copies, and it eventually was transferred to DVD.

There's actually a hardcore gay porn film from the 70's about a horny gay guy having a crush on Jesus and the local priest. It was called Him and was one of the OG "lost media" memes and holy grails online alongside The Day The Clown Cried. A lot of people were convinced it was a hoax given how ridiculous the premise was and because the book that first brought it to the internet's attention mentioned that one movie mentioned in the book was fake.

Turns out the fake movie was Dog Of Norway (and the screenshot was a photo of the author's dog) while several print advertisements and reviews for Him were later found in old archives and the existence has been confirmed. So far, not a single surviving print has been found.

If anything, porn is one of the genres most likely to fall victim to becoming lost media since it's a genre that's niche and works are largely considered disposable

 

[CapricornusRex]

Bitch, please.

Belladonna was publishing porn on her own terms since 2004 up to her retirement in early 2012. Although she was the exception rather than the rule, she actually put the legwork and built her own site that was practically proto-Onlyfans.

Surprisingly, when she retired she didn't mutter a mumbling word and disappeared without leaving trace, proving that you can be a whore without necesarily being an attention whore.

Belladonna is an interesting case because she has been a soccer mom for a long time. She did her job, and also did normal mom shit. I wish I could find the episode of Mohr Stories where Jay talked about pitching a biography of her day to day life because it was so fascinating to him. She was down for it, but her husband wanted money up front for it because he had no idea how the TV industry worked. So it never happened. This podcast aired like 8-9 years ago, and she had been semi-retired up to that point but it still would have been a really interesting show. Basically a TV series on how not to fuck your life up while doing the most debauched porn you can.

 

[Lick Joe]

A lot of porn from the 70's and early 80's is lost or obscure. Same goes for a lot of the Japanese porn, hentai, and extreme horror from the 80's and 90's VHS era. The infamous "Go For A Punch" guro anime is a well-known example and apparently, it's very recently been confirmed to exist and we even have a release date (Winter 1986) making it one of the early hentai titles of the OVA Boom but we still haven't found the footage itself.

One hardcore gore fetish movie from Japan in the early 90's was presumed to be damn near lost with only three surviving VHS copies, and it eventually was transferred to DVD.

There's actually a hardcore gay porn film from the 70's about a horny gay guy having a crush on Jesus and the local priest. It was called Him and was one of the OG "lost media" memes and holy grails online alongside The Day The Clown Cried. A lot of people were convinced it was a hoax given how ridiculous the premise was and because the book that first brought it to the internet's attention mentioned that one movie mentioned in the book was fake.

Turns out the fake movie was Dog Of Norway (and the screenshot was a photo of the author's dog) while several print advertisements and reviews for Him were later found in old archives and the existence has been confirmed. So far, not a single surviving print has been found.

If anything, porn is one of the genres most likely to fall victim to becoming lost media since it's a genre that's niche and works are largely considered disposable

It's funny you mention Him, since some new details on it cropped up on the LMW forum thread on it. Things like the director's name, more proof of it's existence, etc. It's pretty interesting and honestly I hope it's found regardless of the condition it's in.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

Pretty much IIRC pornstars make almost no residuals from doing sites but get all the money if they make it themselves and even major porn studios just shoot out of rented houses now, it's not like you're building sets like the 90s. Plus the weirdos will pay like 5-20 dollars for one video which adds up over time.

Having said that its clear onlyfans is basically soundcloud for sluts, to hit the top 10% you have to clear like $600 a month. Top 3% is 2k a month which is essentially minimum wage. The vast majority of women are in it for the prestige of saying theyre sex workers. But its not even enough to cover living expenses.

The difference is most people dont know webmasters or want to bother with payment processors or paying for bandwidth. Thats why sites like reddit replaced forums, its easier to piggyback off a major service that does all the technical stuff. You make more money the other way but its not as fun. No college age girl wants to deal with server problems.

There is no way that Mike Adriano doesn't own that garish place he films all that ass banging at.

 

[Dang Woodchucks!]

A lot of porn from the 70's and early 80's is lost or obscure. Same goes for a lot of the Japanese porn, hentai, and extreme horror from the 80's and 90's VHS era. The infamous "Go For A Punch" guro anime is a well-known example and apparently, it's very recently been confirmed to exist and we even have a release date (Winter 1986) making it one of the early hentai titles of the OVA Boom but we still haven't found the footage itself.

One hardcore gore fetish movie from Japan in the early 90's was presumed to be damn near lost with only three surviving VHS copies, and it eventually was transferred to DVD.

There's actually a hardcore gay porn film from the 70's about a horny gay guy having a crush on Jesus and the local priest. It was called Him and was one of the OG "lost media" memes and holy grails online alongside The Day The Clown Cried. A lot of people were convinced it was a hoax given how ridiculous the premise was and because the book that first brought it to the internet's attention mentioned that one movie mentioned in the book was fake.

Turns out the fake movie was Dog Of Norway (and the screenshot was a photo of the author's dog) while several print advertisements and reviews for Him were later found in old archives and the existence has been confirmed. So far, not a single surviving print has been found.

If anything, porn is one of the genres most likely to fall victim to becoming lost media since it's a genre that's niche and works are largely considered disposable

Until there's actual footage, I'm filing a "big thunk" on the "Go for a Punch" thing being real. That Whang vid gave every bullshit autist just enough rope to meme their guroporn creepypasta fetish crap into the open claiming "they definitely saw it too, BUT--"

 

[2021Murder]

A lot of porn from the 70's and early 80's is lost or obscure. Same goes for a lot of the Japanese porn, hentai, and extreme horror from the 80's and 90's VHS era. The infamous "Go For A Punch" guro anime is a well-known example and apparently, it's very recently been confirmed to exist and we even have a release date (Winter 1986) making it one of the early hentai titles of the OVA Boom but we still haven't found the footage itself.

One hardcore gore fetish movie from Japan in the early 90's was presumed to be damn near lost with only three surviving VHS copies, and it eventually was transferred to DVD.

There's actually a hardcore gay porn film from the 70's about a horny gay guy having a crush on Jesus and the local priest. It was called Him and was one of the OG "lost media" memes and holy grails online alongside The Day The Clown Cried. A lot of people were convinced it was a hoax given how ridiculous the premise was and because the book that first brought it to the internet's attention mentioned that one movie mentioned in the book was fake.

Turns out the fake movie was Dog Of Norway (and the screenshot was a photo of the author's dog) while several print advertisements and reviews for Him were later found in old archives and the existence has been confirmed. So far, not a single surviving print has been found.

If anything, porn is one of the genres most likely to fall victim to becoming lost media since it's a genre that's niche and works are largely considered disposable

Plus most people would probably prefer if people didnt know they were in porn.

There is no way that Mike Adriano doesn't own that garish place he films all that ass banging at.

You rent the house from an LLC you also own and charge as much as you want to yourself. Its near free money and a simple way to avoid a high tax bill