I know that “Estrogen makes you look like a uwu girl!” and “testosterone makes you look more manly” are some of the things troons like to tell each other, but... Fuck no.
Yes, fat deposits are minimally rearranged and muscles might grow a tiny bit and in that sense it does change the facial structure.
But just look at those pics. Take away the makeup and whispy pube beard, and they’re basically the same faces.
There might be like a 5% difference but a male/female face outside of puberty doesn’t change all that much.
So I know a bit about the after care (if the surgeon can be arsed to provide it)
They have to use a glorified butt plug to force dilate the neo-vag during the healing process, otherwise it goes wrong. Its aparantly very painful and awkward, and nobody talks about it. Well except Jessica Yaniv of course who has an obsession with dilators.
Infection is common due to the fact they have literally cut your dick in half and affixed it to your arse, as a result stuff like going to take a dump, or peeing can lead to major infections.
Sometimes your body can reject the surgery leading to the tissue becoming necrotic. There was this dutch person who ended up going to Dignitas since his body was so mutaliated by it all that he was able to argue that putting himself to sleep was a lesser evil .
F2M ones are also as bad, they use a fake penis (basically a medical dildo) and try and mimic a penis attached to certain parts of the vaginal opening, surgery also involves removing several parts of the clitorus and others (and yet people ban FGM but allow this bullshit) . I remember reading about someone whose fake willy actually broke off once.
As much as I'd like this to be a breaking point where people would wake up and realize this is a horrific practice, you know no one will blame the transition. It will be because he got so much hate online, or the world is so transphobic, and be was cyberbullied, and he wasn't able to "be herself" that's why he killed himself. Definitely not because he was a victim of long drawn out child abuse and hated what he did to himself.
Troons will never concede to their suicide rates being entirely self inflicted. It will always be someone else's fault. It will always be because of society not being accepting of their identities, and because of cyberbullying, and because of transphobia. If they were self aware enough to recognize that the suicide rates stem from self hatred and depression and childhood abuse, they'd be self aware enough to treat those root causes instead of trooning out as a coping mechanism.
I'm not so sure about that. It's all about the narrative. Persecution narratives have this little peculiarity that they can get oversaturated, and when that happens they break down very quickly. One good high-profile confession/public rant accusing someone else of grooming, followed by a suicide, could be enough to get the general mood to shift and trigger the media to do its thing and eat its own sacred cows. There's already some minor but growing pushback against troons in places (see: the whoje JK Rowling controversy), so we'll see where that goes. As I said, I got my money on Jazz Jennings. He's already a trainwreck, we just need to wait to see whether he offs himself before he is fully forgotten.
So I know a bit about the after care (if the surgeon can be arsed to provide it)
They have to use a glorified butt plug to force dilate the neo-vag during the healing process, otherwise it goes wrong. Its aparantly very painful and awkward, and nobody talks about it. Well except Jessica Yaniv of course who has an obsession with dilators.
Infection is common due to the fact they have literally cut your dick in half and affixed it to your arse, as a result stuff like going to take a dump, or peeing can lead to major infections.
Sometimes your body can reject the surgery leading to the tissue becoming necrotic. There was this dutch person who ended up going to Dignitas since his body was so mutaliated by it all that he was able to argue that putting himself to sleep was a lesser evil .
F2M ones are also as bad, they use a fake penis (basically a medical dildo) and try and mimic a penis attached to certain parts of the vaginal opening, surgery also involves removing several parts of the clitorus and others (and yet people ban FGM but allow this bullshit) . I remember reading about someone whose fake willy actually broke off once.
There’s women in Africa who choose to get FGM as adults. Would Westerners be cool with that? Maybe the super cultural relativist ones, but a lot of people would say hey, they’re still living in this sexist society and doing it so they can get a husband and that’s bad. But there’s never any acknowledgment that troons also live in a society or that sexism belies a lot of FTM surgeries.
There’s women in Africa who choose to get FGM as adults. Would Westerners be cool with that? Maybe the super cultural relativist ones, but a lot of people would say hey, they’re still living in this sexist society and doing it so they can get a husband and that’s bad. But there’s never any acknowledgment that troons also live in a society or that sexism belies a lot of FTM surgeries.
Infection is common due to the fact they have literally cut your dick in half and affixed it to your arse, as a result stuff like going to take a dump, or peeing can lead to major infections.
In some MTF operations the troon-gina actually pierces the bowel. (Their obsession with depth certainly doesn’t help! The deeper the troon-gina the closer it is to the bowels.)
I have read troons on Reddit describe how they actually were leaking shit out of their vagina because of this.
Yes, you read that right. Literal shit coming out of their inverted penis. Along with blood and pus of course.
Sometimes a corrective surgery fixes it, other times... Whelp! Sorry troon! Nothin’ I can do!
Sometimes your body can reject the surgery leading to the tissue becoming necrotic. There was this dutch person who ended up going to Dignitas since his body was so mutaliated by it all that he was able to argue that putting himself to sleep was a lesser evil .
From the sounds of it, she wasn’t that badly botched, but just had a realization that she would never be a real man.
Reality can hit you like a ton of fucking bricks, when you’ve built your life on a lie.
F2M ones are also as bad, they use a fake penis (basically a medical dildo) and try and mimic a penis attached to certain parts of the vaginal opening, surgery also involves removing several parts of the clitorus and others (and yet people ban FGM but allow this bullshit) . I remember reading about someone whose fake willy actually broke off once.
There are several kinds of operations. In some they take some skin and flesh from your arm, build a little flesh sausage, and attach that to the woman. Another kind is where they basically insert a dildo that can “get erect” if you pump your balls long enough (lol!) or press a button.
And yes, the medical complication rate for FTMs are horrendous. Over half of them need several corrective surgeries, and in many cases, their flesh sausage still rots off or has to be surgically removed before it does.
She was also horrible abused by her family her entire life and they hated her for being born a girl (!). When she died her mother didn't give a fuck. Nancy's story is really sad and tragic.
So I know a bit about the after care (if the surgeon can be arsed to provide it)
They have to use a glorified butt plug to force dilate the neo-vag during the healing process, otherwise it goes wrong. Its aparantly very painful and awkward, and nobody talks about it. Well except Jessica Yaniv of course who has an obsession with dilators.
Infection is common due to the fact they have literally cut your dick in half and affixed it to your arse, as a result stuff like going to take a dump, or peeing can lead to major infections.
Sometimes your body can reject the surgery leading to the tissue becoming necrotic. There was this dutch person who ended up going to Dignitas since his body was so mutaliated by it all that he was able to argue that putting himself to sleep was a lesser evil .
F2M ones are also as bad, they use a fake penis (basically a medical dildo) and try and mimic a penis attached to certain parts of the vaginal opening, surgery also involves removing several parts of the clitorus and others (and yet people ban FGM but allow this bullshit) . I remember reading about someone whose fake willy actually broke off once.
It doesn't "go wrong". It heals. Like, it closes up. It becomes a massive hunk of scar tissue. Your body treats it like a massive puncture wound. It's a bit like an ear ring, just much, much bigger. Infection is again, the fact its a giant gaping would you have to keep opening up.
Also, your body doesn't really "reject it" like it does a transplant. I know it's being anal, but it's because of how the vascular tissue is managed. That tissue still needs blood flow. Blood flow is difficult to get right. I had a friend almost die literally a few weeks back because the TOP fucking vascular surgeons couldn't get blood flow to his legs. This blood flow is the real big concern, as a huge chunk of the necrosis come from the fact these surgeons are not vascular.
If the surgeon was really good, he/she would randomly get 10 straight men to identify their work as a vagina and not just a saggy nutsack tied into a bow.
Also Insurance: have to fight tooth and nail for shoulder surgery that will improve quality of life
Not me, but one of my cousins was in a car crash and nothing serious or threatening but six years later, he wants to get shoulder surgery to fix some issues he was having and the insurance wouldn't cover it because it was elective.
Fine because medicaid still won't pay for shit anyway. We had to change the way our clinic worked cause poor people pretended to be aliens so they could get in easier.
If the surgeon was really good, he/she would randomly get 10 straight men to identify their work as a vagina and not just a saggy nutsack tied into a bow.
Whenever some troon has a botched surgery and comes home with complications, they always go to see... Gynecologists. (Or are told to go to one by fellow trannys.)
I always wanted to see the confused expression on the gynecologists face, when a troon comes in with their mangled crotch and infected fuckhole, and wants their help.
I even remember an outraged post on reddit one time, because the gynecologists had the AUDACITY to set the troon straight and explain that he needs to see a surgeon or wound specialist instead of a gyno.
Fine because medicaid still won't pay for shit anyway. We had to change the way our clinic worked cause poor people pretended to be aliens so they could get in easier.
Can you imagine staring at Phil's crotch for several hours and thinking, "oh, great! I've finally graduated!"
I don't think transgenderism is a real biological thing. I believe there's just gay men who were socialized improperly, and it's too late to go back. What happens when this whole shit show gets regulated, and the legit trannies, who are probably gay men and not that mentally ill, suffer and also commit suicide?
ALEX MARKEL NEVER WANTED sex-reassignment surgery. Dr. Daniel Dugi of Portland’s Oregon Health & Science University (OHSU) hospital talked him into it, he claims. Alex (alias name) told me he had only wanted an orchiectomy (removal of the testicles) but Dr. Dugi refused and instead pressured him into getting sex-reassignment surgery. Being only 22 years old and feeling vulnerable he went along with it.
Alex told me that he had never expressed any interest in getting sex-reassignment surgery prior to meeting with Dr. Dugi one-on-one. I asked if he had told his therapist, doctor, or any OHSU team member that he wanted the surgery. He said he hadn’t. Alex said he felt like he “was very much pushed into transition” because of ongoing “mental health problems” that his therapist failed to properly diagnose.
What about the two letters attesting readiness required from a therapist before getting surgery? Alex never provided them with his own accord. Dr. Dugi personally sought them out Alex told me. He reached out to Alex’s therapist and got what he needed.
Dr. Dugi, who was new to the procedure at the time, left Alex severely disfigured in his attempt to create a vagina. “It looks like a mutilated penis and scrotum,” Alex told me during an interview. A full one-inch of the penis and all of the scrotal tissue remain. Alex told me the corrective surgery team analyzing him said his result is the most intact genitals post-surgery they’ve ever seen.
After being disfigured, Alex claims the hospital then tossed him out. No one explained what went wrong with his surgery or offered a remedy. He wasn’t given any support or follow-up care either.
Alex told me he believed his surgery was “rubber-stamped.” He said Dr. Dugi used “a bunch of trans people to experiment on and gain experience without being properly trained.” Alex went along with it after Dr. Dugi repeatedly refused his request for an orchiectomy. He said he felt confused and gave in under the pressure of an authority figure like Dr. Dugi.
Alex has since de-transitioned and uses male pronouns.
Can you imagine staring at Phil's crotch for several hours and thinking, "oh, great! I've finally graduated!"
I don't think transgenderism is a real biological thing. I believe there's just gay men who were socialized improperly, and it's too late to go back. What happens when this whole shit show gets regulated, and the legit trannies, who are probably gay men and not that mentally ill, suffer and also commit suicide?
Who is putting up the road blocks? (Yeah I know.... "trannies" and "liberals" .... we got that, no need to assign me 50 puzzle pieces and garbage cans...).
I mean which organizations, legislative bodies and political lobbies, specifically?
The Research Ethics and Compliance Training is a requiement by all doctoral programs, research grants, etc. It tells you want you can and cannot do in research and is followed by all agencies. It is rules that are built on the Belmont report which researchers must follow.
There are even further regulations for working with protected populations:
Children, Pregnant Women, Fetuses, Incarerated, Marginalized Minorities, Transgender, Geriatric, Disabled (Physical and Intellectual), Underprivileged, Terminally Ill, Immigrants, Illegals, End of Life (seperate from terminally ill), LGBT .
To research at all you must do a think its now 30 to 40 module course and be certified as compliant with these guidelines.
Most research institutes won't justify doing research because they believe the harm of outting an indivudal outweights any benefit.
Reasons for LGBT Protection (Abridged from the course module)
Historical Treatment used as reasons for these protection include:
Non-consenual use of Gay men in Nazi Concentration Camps to find biological causes for Gayness.
1960s Laud Humphreys "Tearoom Trade" obsevation of sexual cruising behavior in public male restrooms. (He took down license plates of those who were gay and went to interview them in their homes. He outted them during this time and since they did not want to be outted and had distress due to it) At the time homosexuality was criminalized and considered a mental disorder and could lead to arrest or institutionalization.
Until 1973 homosexualty was a mental illness in the DSM. As late as 2014, therapists were still being cause uses conversion therapy on children and adults.
Belief that there is an assumption by medical providers that those who are LGBT are diseased and need to be irradicated.
HIV/Aids and its stigma to the gay community.
Belief in the late 19th Century by physicians defined that were educated, middle-class, independent, political women were sexual "inverts." imitating men to fornicate with women.
Belief that dress/social behavior in early 20th century dictated lesbianism.
Not enough research on Lebians so it is not appropriate to research them. (My favorite considering gaps in research is where we learn the most)
Biomedical research won't look at sexual orientation as a reason for BIOLOGICAL issues.
Belief that fixing intersex issues at birth is a human rights offense.
Sexual testing of intersex toddlers.
Bunched in with Gay and Lesbians and this is wrong.
They want removal of Gender Dysphoria.
Vulnerability Beliefs that mean studies have inerent harm:
Unconscious Bias of researchers that they are social deviants and/or mentally ill.
"All GSD individuals face social and cultural vulnerabilities because many have experienced some forms of prejudice and discrimination at home, school, work and/or other social contexts or institutions due to their sexual orientation. "
Gay-related stressors, : range of negative behavioral, social, and health outcomes including social isolation, ejection, homophobia (fear/hatred of gay people), anxiety, and depression. It has also been found to increase gay and bisexual men's vulnerability to HIV infection.
Trans people are discriminated against by gay/lesbians.
Rules of Research:
"If you are collecting data on GSD individuals in U.S. locales without non-discrimination laws, consider obtaining a Certificate of Confidentiality to protect subjects from the legal consequences of their disclosures.
Transgender people are at risk of being discharged from the military, based on their gender identity. If you are conducting research on transgender active duty service personnel, a Certificate of Confidentiality could prevent a subject from losing their job as an unintended consequence of participating in the research."
"Assess whether the GSD subjects to be enrolled in a specific research protocol are vulnerable and require additional human subject protections, such as research subject advocates. "
"Unlike many other vulnerable groups, the relationship of GSD individuals to the larger culture is an ongoing process affected by socio-cultural and legal events that continue to alter the context in which research may occur. "
