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This is a thread to discuss Bleach in it’s entirety.
During the making of kubo’s final arc, he did it terribly: battles with side characters that lasted way too long, little to no plot progression, too many unanswered questions, you get the point.
However, even with all of this fuckery, I found an interesting plot within the plot, he tried to give little hints of the war 1,000 years ago and how the world became to be, so I decided to assume what he tried to relay to us:
My opinions on the manga and anime about Kubo’s writing that it can be utter shit at times that sometimes make my head spin, why?!:
1. Aizen already made a hogyoku before taking urahara’s, which doesn’t make sense because when he betrayed the soul society and took the one out of Rukia, he suggested he never seen it before.
2. What was the point of taking the Bankai of the captains to give it back to them so soon, most Of them learned, they couldn’t fight without it.
3. I was severely disappointed when I saw what he did with Uryu, everything that happened with his character was so cliche.
The things I loved about Bleach:
1. Multiple characters that had their own development, however this got in the way of his writing because he made to damn many.
2. the world building is super impressive to me.
3. The artwork is pretty dope.
If there are any Bleach fans left, let me know what you think about this messed up series that Kubo vaguely thawed out.
If there are any Bleach fans left, let me know what you think about this messed up series that Kubo vaguely thawed out.
During the making of kubo’s final arc, he did it terribly: battles with side characters that lasted way too long, little to no plot progression, too many unanswered questions, you get the point.
However, even with all of this fuckery, I found an interesting plot within the plot, he tried to give little hints of the war 1,000 years ago and how the world became to be, so I decided to assume what he tried to relay to us:
1. The world that was split now (human, hollow, shinigami worlds) was actually once, just one whole world.
2. The Quincy race were at the top of the food chain, at the beginning, like how the shinigami are now. I assume the Soul King must have been God originally. (I suggested this, because the Quincy still looked down on shinigami, even after being massacred by them) This is the Soul Society’s sin that Aizen spoke of during the novel.
3. The shinigami or the 4 noble houses found a way to split the world to their advantage by using God as a medium. (I assumed this because nano’s sword was able to reflect god’s power against the x-axis)
4. Shinigami saw quincies as a nuisance, because their weapons didn’t work with their new system, which started the war, and the genocide of the Quincy’s entire race. Instead of having souls recycled, they vanished by the quincy’s weapon. (I suggested this because the world at the beginning of quincy war arc was starting to warp when the Quincies re-emerged, also urahara briefly explained how quincies aggravate the system.)
5. When the shinigami mutilatied the soul king, Yhwach was born as the Soul King’s soul. (Suggested when Yhwach called him his father.) (Yhwach is pretty much jesus or an anti christ)
6. Yamamoto failed to kill Yhwach during the war because he reverted to an infant. (I suggested this because Yamamoto said this when he fought wonderweis (he has a soft spot for children) and Aizen must of known this, in order to make wonderweis his kryptonite, Yhwach also took 1000 years to rejuvenate to his prime again, so probably from infancy again)
7. I’m almost certain that Aizen found out the original sin of the soul society, he mentioned in the novel, and thought it was messed up how the world worked in the shinigami’s favor. So his ultimate objective was to shake up the world by killing the soul king and to destroy the soul society entirely. (This theme is suggested from the novels published after the final manga chapters, evidence he he only killed central 46 during his betrayal and only wounded others but not kill (except gin and tousen but they are lost causes), and his encounter with Yamamoto, he wanted to kill him, because he is an artifact of the original sin)
8. Yhwach’s objective was to kill the soul king, so it would disrupt all of the dimensions, to revert the world to what it was originally. (Yhwach said in his last speech to Ichigo, before he vanished that he wanted to make a world without death. The ‘death’ he speaks of, is the fear of dying in the living world, separated, and having the chance of becoming an insane hollow. Instead of this cycle of fear for humans, they would instead just die and become nothingness)
9. Somewhere during the writing of all this, Ichigo was suppose to find out about the soul society’s sin, but kubo was forced to end the series early. It was foreshadowed in the fullbringer’s arc, exactly what ichigo would have said or done in this situation, he would accept all the wrong doings of the ancient history, then continue to how things are now, in order to keep peace. (Shit idea, but it’s ichigo, his only goal in the whole series was to live a normal life, where his friends lives weren’t in grave danger.)
2. The Quincy race were at the top of the food chain, at the beginning, like how the shinigami are now. I assume the Soul King must have been God originally. (I suggested this, because the Quincy still looked down on shinigami, even after being massacred by them) This is the Soul Society’s sin that Aizen spoke of during the novel.
3. The shinigami or the 4 noble houses found a way to split the world to their advantage by using God as a medium. (I assumed this because nano’s sword was able to reflect god’s power against the x-axis)
4. Shinigami saw quincies as a nuisance, because their weapons didn’t work with their new system, which started the war, and the genocide of the Quincy’s entire race. Instead of having souls recycled, they vanished by the quincy’s weapon. (I suggested this because the world at the beginning of quincy war arc was starting to warp when the Quincies re-emerged, also urahara briefly explained how quincies aggravate the system.)
5. When the shinigami mutilatied the soul king, Yhwach was born as the Soul King’s soul. (Suggested when Yhwach called him his father.) (Yhwach is pretty much jesus or an anti christ)
6. Yamamoto failed to kill Yhwach during the war because he reverted to an infant. (I suggested this because Yamamoto said this when he fought wonderweis (he has a soft spot for children) and Aizen must of known this, in order to make wonderweis his kryptonite, Yhwach also took 1000 years to rejuvenate to his prime again, so probably from infancy again)
7. I’m almost certain that Aizen found out the original sin of the soul society, he mentioned in the novel, and thought it was messed up how the world worked in the shinigami’s favor. So his ultimate objective was to shake up the world by killing the soul king and to destroy the soul society entirely. (This theme is suggested from the novels published after the final manga chapters, evidence he he only killed central 46 during his betrayal and only wounded others but not kill (except gin and tousen but they are lost causes), and his encounter with Yamamoto, he wanted to kill him, because he is an artifact of the original sin)
8. Yhwach’s objective was to kill the soul king, so it would disrupt all of the dimensions, to revert the world to what it was originally. (Yhwach said in his last speech to Ichigo, before he vanished that he wanted to make a world without death. The ‘death’ he speaks of, is the fear of dying in the living world, separated, and having the chance of becoming an insane hollow. Instead of this cycle of fear for humans, they would instead just die and become nothingness)
9. Somewhere during the writing of all this, Ichigo was suppose to find out about the soul society’s sin, but kubo was forced to end the series early. It was foreshadowed in the fullbringer’s arc, exactly what ichigo would have said or done in this situation, he would accept all the wrong doings of the ancient history, then continue to how things are now, in order to keep peace. (Shit idea, but it’s ichigo, his only goal in the whole series was to live a normal life, where his friends lives weren’t in grave danger.)
1. Aizen already made a hogyoku before taking urahara’s, which doesn’t make sense because when he betrayed the soul society and took the one out of Rukia, he suggested he never seen it before.
2. What was the point of taking the Bankai of the captains to give it back to them so soon, most Of them learned, they couldn’t fight without it.
3. I was severely disappointed when I saw what he did with Uryu, everything that happened with his character was so cliche.
The things I loved about Bleach:
1. Multiple characters that had their own development, however this got in the way of his writing because he made to damn many.
2. the world building is super impressive to me.
3. The artwork is pretty dope.
If there are any Bleach fans left, let me know what you think about this messed up series that Kubo vaguely thawed out.
If there are any Bleach fans left, let me know what you think about this messed up series that Kubo vaguely thawed out.
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