Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Godzilla@1989]

Holy damn.

Disney just laid off 28,000 employees in the Parks division, 67% of them being part time.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/09/29/media/disney-parks-layoffs/index.html

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Holy damn.

Disney just laid off 28,000 employees in the Parks division, 67% of them being part time.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/09/29/media/disney-parks-layoffs/index.html

Looks like the Disney defense force was wrong on how the company was recovering. If they fired that many people, and 33% of them aren't part-timers, it goes to show that Disney is a house of cards right now.

 

[White Devil]

Looks like the Disney defense force was wrong on how the company was recovering. If they fired that many people, and 33% of them aren't part-timers, it goes to show that Disney is a house of cards right now.

Feels like when they forced most of their IT force to train their paki replacements and then resign before the holidays or they wouldn't get this severances, cept I don't think they're hiring more pakis now.

 

[ZMOT]

Trust me I have seen the tardism for over twenty years of how Batman and the Punisher can beat or killed the entire DC and Marvel hero and villian roster while circling around plot induced stupidity. Though permanent damage been done when 21th Century DC and Marvel kept making that shit canon with any hero facing Batman or Frank Castle becoming absolutely retarded letting them win.

punisher going full ham on every spandex-wearer was a fucking blast tho. and no one took that seriously because it ran under the "what if.." label (I think they dropped that moniker at some point).

it's the same with star trek and the mirror universe. it makes zero fucking sense and only serves as the actors going apeshit a few times, but now it's hard canon and an actual plot in STD (I know it was canon before but it was usually not really elaborated on, it exists and that's it).

which reminds me, isn't the holiday special canon now too...?

 

[Creep3r]

punisher going full ham on every spandex-wearer was a fucking blast tho. and no one took that seriously because it ran under the "what if.." label (I think they dropped that moniker at some point).

it's the same with star trek and the mirror universe. it makes zero fucking sense and only serves as the actors going apeshit a few times, but now it's hard canon and an actual plot in STD (I know it was canon before but it was usually not really elaborated on, it exists and that's it).

which reminds me, isn't the holiday special canon now too...?

Yeah. Disney referenced it several times and a shitty Disney tie-in comic from 2015 about Chewbacca getting a medal for the 3rd time has him giving his medal away to some genderqueer girl before running off to Kashyyyk to take part in Life Day. And three characters from the special were mentioned in Disney canon to explain their origins and personal lives, one of them being Ackmena (Bea Arthur) who was made into a lesbian in the same story that made the trash compactor monster into a aromantic feminist force priestess, and another Gormaanda was made an ancient religious figure among chefs whose footage from the Holiday Special was actually recorded in ancient times for some oddball reason. And now Disney decided to have Lego make them their own Holiday Special with time travel which is canon as with all Lego Disney Wars media despite Wookieepedo's claims.

 

[ZMOT]

I think I finally get the logic.

The idea is that you remain a Jedi so long as you keep to the principles of being one with the force and keeping your feelings in check, all to service the needs of others. You need to understand what your feelings are and know how to not let them affect your judgement or stew in them. In this case, dabbling in the Dark Side forces you to face those worse parts of yourself you usually try to ignore since you have to accept it's a part of you. You need to know how to handle fears, frustrations, and hatred, so you can manage yourself when they come, since those powers rely on you wanting those things to happen and often feed on those emotions.

you could consider it "doing the wrong thing for the right reason", like killing in defense of someone weaker etc. and being all rational about it. however wasn't it established at some point that to use this power you actually have to be off the rails, or prolonged use pushes you over the edge or something?
I also wouldn't use bioware writing for anything, or games in general. this is the same shit that gives you light/dark side points and puts your "good/evil" on a scale. that might work for gameplay reasons (same way you're genociding across the galaxy because talking it out via dialog would blow the budget), but deriving a philosophy from that is... very brave. besides, any canon is usually a certain route with certain answers, everything else is just fanfiction or hypothetical. it's the same reason revan is canon male even if you played a female.

the main issue is simply that "the force" got various interpretations by various authors over the years and even lucas isn't consistent since it was never really planned out that way, it's literally space magic. so people and authors will pick and choose the aspect they like best and for them "fits" the best to what they picture when they hear "the force". some are better at it, some are worse. the danger with that is that shit writers will use it as a cheap deus ex machina like nuwars because they don't care or simply suck, and with tards at the helm that will also now be canon. so as much as I like to nerd-out imo it's just silly when it comes to the force and everything around it since it never had any real foundation and over time got mangled and SuBvErTeD. it's like talking about the beauty of a burn victim.

And now Disney decided to have Lego make them their own Holiday Special with time travel which is canon as with all Lego Disney Wars media despite Wookieepedo's claims.

imagine paying 4 billions + tip for a franchise, have fuck you money and run it into the ground so hard you're out of content after 5 years so you have to go back the worst part in decades

 

[Creep3r]

So since I shared the Monsters and Aliens Guide art, anyone interested in some of the ROTJ art book stuff which shows even more art the guide excluded? I figure I'd rather spend some time posting nice things about SW before I go back to posting all the stupid shit Disney has done.

 

[Cactuar King]

So since I shared the Monsters and Aliens Guide art, anyone interested in some of the ROTJ art book stuff which shows even more art the guide excluded? I figure I'd rather spend some time posting nice things about SW before I go back to posting all the stupid shit Disney has done.

I could use some positivity.

 

[Creep3r]

ROTJ Concept art:
(where I left off: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/star-wars-griefing-thread-spoilers.32492/post-7425913)

Here are some early sketches by McQuarrie of Jabba's palace.

The first and fifth ones were far more oriental. But the others mostly resemble the final design. The seventh one with the more spherical shape probably inspired the design for hutt palaces on Nal Hutta in SWTOR but those also had a more conical shape but similar patterns. The final design appears to have also functioned as a port much like the palace in SWTOR.

More sketches, one with a larger roof.

The second one resembles the final one the most but is a bit less detailed and smaller than the final one, but the windows use the lettering often seen in McQuarrie art.

Behold, the holy Order of the B'omarr Monks

The B'omarr Monks were created and designed by McQuarrie while their iconic BT-16 spider droids were designed by Joe Johnston. As depicted in both the art and lore, Jabba's palace was originally their monastery which he took over. The monks didn't care as they were above materialism and only used the palace as a necessity, as they believed in completely separating themselves from all wants and physical sensations, with "enlightenment" being achieved when a monk had their brain removed and placed in a special tank which would then be taken care of by other monks and the spider droids. Despite their off-putting traditions, Jabba let them stay as he enjoyed their presence and he would use the monks as a form of punishment on his enemies or servants who failed him, by ordering the monks to remove their brains so they could be "enlightened". So many of the spider droids that wandered about weren't just monks, but those who had angered Jabba and now were doomed to scream in silence. A later anthology book which detailed what happened to Jabba's palace after his death goes into more detail and reveals that the monks were unhappy with Jabba's influence, as he had corrupted many young monks into acting as spies and accepting bribes, seeing it as a corruption of their order. Upon Jabba's death, Jabba's rivals and underlings fought amongst each other, but the monks broke away from their peaceful code in order to take back their palace by force, running off all the criminals they could and removing the brains of those that they thought needed "salvation". One such victim was none other than Bib Fortuna.

Jabba's trusted majordomo, however in his case, he was to beat up to survive after everyone fought over the right for Jabba's throne. Fitting since Ralph's early artwork of Fortuna had him fraternizing with the monks and one of his original designs ended up being used as the uniform for the high ranking monks.

And speaking of Fortuna, here's another early concept for him along with designs for the entrance to the palace which remained mostly unchanged from the final version. For some reason, he briefly held the title of "High Beeser of Hoth".

Some more Fortuna designs.

As I said in the Monsters and Aliens Guide coverage, Fortuna went through several species, much like Jabba, with the non-twilek designs ended up being used for other species, like the Adnerem race.

Jabba's throne room.

Concept art for EV-9D9, the torture droid.

Unceremoniously brought back in the Mandalorian in a paradoxical situation.

Early concept art for the Gamorreans. Created by Dave Carson and designed by Joe Johnston. Thus an iconic species was born.

Probably the most high fantasy-inspired species, wearing the most traditional armors and weapons and having a strong D&D1E orc-influence, traits which really makes them stand out in a pretty good way.

The six-breasted alien woman known as Gargan, created by Nilos Rodis-Jamero.

"Somewhere along the way, in one of those conversations that was beer-induced, we said, 'Oh, and she has six breasts!' And somehow it was appropriate for Jabba's palace." - Jamero

Richard Marquand casted Claire Davenport in the film because he had a kink for thicc fat girls and she was chosen to play Gargan. Not sure if she was designed this way from the start by Jamero or if he created the design after Claire was cast, but it was probably the second. Hidalgo claims that her name was "Wiebba-Weibba" in production, despite Leland Chee stating that her name was Gargan beforehand and that Weeba-Weeba was the Rancor keeper's assistant, and this being confirmed by Jamero putting her name right on the bottom of the sketch and that the credits call her "Fat Dancer" in production. Only reason Hidalgo even came to this assumption is due to the Lucasfilm archive incorrectly filing her under Wiebba Weibba despite that said folder obscures her actual name right on the bottom of the sketch which clearly says Gargan if you bother to take it out of the folder.

I mean ffs the folder doesn't even spell the name right since on the alien costume list its spelled Wiebba Wiebba. You won't find this confirmation of Gargan's name or her concept art on Wookieepedo though because they're incompetent as fuck and Hidalgo is infallible to them despite evidence.

As a fun-bit of trivia, later lore established that Gargan wasn't actually fat, but rather her species (Askajian) could retain large amounts of water to survive in intense heat which gave them a bloated appearance. Jabba purposely kept her painfully bloated because he found her more attractive this way. Making him a degenerate body inflationist.

And here is the concept art for Oola, the first in the iconic Twi'lek species alongside Bib Fortuna.

She was apparently going to be even more erotic looking and at one point human and a conehead. Phil Tippett designed both Oola and Bib Fortuna, making him the father of Twi'leks.

Concept art of the Rancor through its many early stages as conceived by Phill Tippet and its final designs by McQuarrie.

Described as a potato bear creature. At least two pieces of art depicted it with clothing. The one with two mouth tentacles (or grasping tusks) would go on to be incorporated into lore as its own species in the form of the Zexx and Esoomians from the Tales of the Jedi comics and the Super ROTJ game respectively, both introduced in the same year into lore.

They weren't as big as Rancors but they were far smarter. The main difference between the two is that the Zexx's tusks weren't tentacles and were sharp as knives. So it seems more likely the Zexx are an offshoot of the Esoomians, much like humans and chiss.

Two other Rancor designs (the big fat one with its tongue sticking out and the one with face claws) look familiar but I can't remember if they were incorporated into the franchise or not.

And here's Malakili the Rancor Keeper's concept art.

Not much change. He's been raising that Rancor since both were young slaves of Jabba's, being the closest thing he had to family.

I'll post the rest in the next post so this one doesn't get too cluttered.

(continued here: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/star-wars-griefing-thread-spoilers.32492/post-7454059)

 

[Adamska]

Holy damn.

Disney just laid off 28,000 employees in the Parks division, 67% of them being part time.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/09/29/media/disney-parks-layoffs/index.html

This is the second round of firings after they fired a far larger number earlier this year. Pretty sure it means the Rat is fucked, given that the Parks division is their dynamo for their other jobs. There's a reason Disney used to be mocked for being a real estate business that dabbles in movies.

Yeah. Disney referenced it several times and a shitty Disney tie-in comic from 2015 about Chewbacca getting a medal for the 3rd time has him giving his medal away to some genderqueer girl before running off to Kashyyyk to take part in Life Day. And three characters from the special were mentioned in Disney canon to explain their origins and personal lives, one of them being Ackmena (Bea Arthur) who was made into a lesbian in the same story that made the trash compactor monster into a aromantic feminist force priestess, and another Gormaanda was made an ancient religious figure among chefs whose footage from the Holiday Special was actually recorded in ancient times for some oddball reason. And now Disney decided to have Lego make them their own Holiday Special with time travel which is canon as with all Lego Disney Wars media despite Wookieepedo's claims.
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Again, this is what happens when you bring in people who hate the creator or the audience. Kennedy probably mandated that it get accepted because she knew George hated it so much.

 

[Wyzzerd]

Is it just me or does all this old concept art feel a lot different than the aliens and other scifi stuff from current media? Like it's more "grounded in reality" for lack of a better term?

It just feels like it has this weird sense of plausibility. We've got monks shoving brains into robot spiders for enlightenment and I can totally see something like that existing.

Or it's just my nostalgia for all this kicking into overdrive...

 

[Mississippi Motorboater]

I think during the OT and PT, you see a lot of clever implementation of real-world inspirations or fictional references that serve as a basis for designs, and even some thought about how they relate to the aliens in-universe. For instance, just using the PT as an example (since it's the trilogy I have the most familiarity with), the Kaminoans and the Geonosians have very specific facial details, with the former being inspired by the aliens from Close Encounters With The Third Kind, as confirmed by Lucas on the DVD commentary. But there are also subtle things like the amphibian nostrils and the cranial fins, which are actually present in the helmet designs for the Phase I Clone Troopers seen in AOTC. So the alien designer was conscious about how the Kaminoans would take their own facial features and imprint them on the soldiers they were creating, which is a very plausible thing in-universe.

And that's just one small aspect of the alien designs. There's countless more, either as tributes to other films, or with in-universe sensibilities in mind.

You don't have that for the shit designs in the ST. You have literal headless creatures or butt-faced aliens that are there just because they look "weird" or "other-worldly", with no deeper creative intentions behind them.

 

[SuiSui1]

reflecting off of @GeneralFriendliness post. I feel that in IV and VI, The Cantina and Jabba's Palace showcased how unique the Galaxy was with the different aliens, while V was more of a character building for Luke and how the good guys don't always win.

I, II and III felt like there was a saturation of aliens but that is understandable as I assume Lucas was trying to show how big and bloated the Galactic Republic had become.

VII...Maz's castle was an obvious nod towards The Cantina and Jabba's Palace but it felt out of place as many of the aliens weren't from the OT or PT. With Canto Bite me in VIII, it was a bland taste as once again, there were no other OT or PT aliens to relate to. IX...even with an entire planet of aliens on that one desert planet, babu frik stood out as he was unique.

I have mixed feelings on RO, though there were familiar aliens and story beats to it. It felt as if someone was just filling in the colors and not trying to tell a story.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

Still, as the predecessors to Imperial Stormtroopers, I don't like them being biological droids. In fact, Palpatine in the old canon even spoke of them as Imperial saints; men who lay their lives down for the new regime that they themselves put into place. The few Fett clones who kept on serving as Stormtroopers served loyally and faithfully, no matter who the enemy was, be they Jedi, Sep remnants, rogue clones, and Rebel Alliance soldiers. They even grew to hate the Alliance rather badly, since the New Order that they built was threatened by the Rebels, and they saw the Rebels as a pest that must be eradicated:

"By the time of the raid on Polis Massa, the men of the 501st were starting to get a little sick of this so called "Rebellion". In the past, we'd secretly enjoyed putting down a local insurrection or two. They kept the troops sharp and the Empire feared, but these Rebels were different. They were organized, they were growing, and they were everywhere. The raid on Polis Massa was a perfect example of how things were starting to fall apart. We were supposed to go in, wipe out a small band of Rebels, and recover some stolen Imperial plans on an encrypted holodisk. Before we knew it, we were nearly overrun by Rebel forces, with the holodisk nowhere to be found. Even though the Polis Massa raid was only a partial success, we finally had a lead on the whereabouts of the Death Star plans, which suited the 501st just fine."

-Anonymous 501st soldier concerning the Rebel Alliance and the Polis Massa raid

Their hate for the Rebels reached a new fever pitch after the Death Star was destroyed:

"When the Death Star was destroyed, about half of the 501st Legion was still in the hangar getting to their ships. Of those who made it out, another third were caught in the explosion. I'd fought with some of those men for over twenty years. Afterwards, those of us that survived hooked up with a nearby Imperial fleet making a retaliatory strike on the Rebel's base on Yavin IV. It wasn't the best thought out plan, but we were cut off from our leaders, tired, and operating on instinct. If not for our training, we probably would've never gotten past their orbital defenses. And so the battle over Yavin came to an end. I'm told we destroyed hundreds of Rebel ships that day. Even if it had been thousands, it wouldn't have made up for the Death Star.

By the time we landed on Yavin, whatever shock we'd felt at the destruction of the Death Star had been replaced by anger. For months we'd treated the Rebellion like a disobedient child, only to be repaid for our tolerance with treachery on an unimaginable scale. Frankly, I don't remember much of the fighting. I guess we won. After the battle, the surviving members of the 501st finally caught their breath. The Empire had taken the Rebel's best shot and come up standing. Now it was our turn to strike."

-Anonymous 501st soldier on the destruction of the Death Star and the fall of Yavin Base

These were men who knew what they were doing, and I rather favor this characterization over the whole "organic droids" routine that TCW went with. They knew they were guilty of killing innocents like Aayla Secura, they had Jedi blood on their hands, so they were desperate to make sure that the new peace they established, the new empire which was baptized with Jedi blood, should remain in power, so that all that fighting they've done, all the horrid shit they did, wouldn't be for nothing. That's the kind of great characterization that is lost on the new Star Wars. And frankly, no attempt at lionizing Imperials in the modern NuCanon can top that kind of writing.

I do prefer BF2 explanation of the clones and the EU overall. It gave them more agency and I felt it was a bit more grim that way and the chips was an easy out. I don’t hate the idea of chips because I theorized they would’ve messed with the clones brains to ensure loyalty (or at least make it more difficult to disobey) but my main beef was the way it was implemented and changed the tone.

Still, clones were referenced as droids in the EU. There’s a passage in the Darth Plagueis novel that refers to them as such: “I have seen the coming darkness and the beings that will visit it upon the galaxy.” She paused briefly to allow her words to be felt. “I have witnessed the collapse of the Republic, and I have beheld the Jedi Order spun into turmoil.” She aimed a finger toward distant mountains. “On the horizon looms a galaxy-spanning war—a conflict between machines of alloy and machines of flesh, and the subsequent death of tens of millions of innocents.”

 

[Cactuar King]

Two other Rancor designs (the big fat one with its tongue sticking out and the one with face claws) look familiar but I can't remember if they were incorporated into the franchise or not.

Well, it's not a Star Wars creature, but it really reminds me of the Parasitehosts from Man After Man...

 

[Flexo]

We still looking for more TLJ bashing?

(He won't mention it much, but the movie strikes me exactly how someone who has never actually been in a leadership position, imagines how a leadership position behaves - and by that, I mean feminists.)

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

I think during the OT and PT, you see a lot of clever implementation of real-world inspirations or fictional references that serve as a basis for designs, and even some thought about how they relate to the aliens in-universe. For instance, just using the PT as an example (since it's the trilogy I have the most familiarity with), the Kaminoans and the Geonosians have very specific facial details, with the former being inspired by the aliens from Close Encounters With The Third Kind, as confirmed by Lucas on the DVD commentary. But there are also subtle things like the amphibian nostrils and the cranial fins, which are actually present in the helmet designs for the Phase I Clone Troopers seen in AOTC. So the alien designer was conscious about how the Kaminoans would take their own facial features and imprint them on the soldiers they were creating, which is a very plausible thing in-universe.

And that's just one small aspect of the alien designs. There's countless more, either as tributes to other films, or with in-universe sensibilities in mind.

You don't have that for the shit designs in the ST. You have literal headless creatures or butt-faced aliens that are there just because they look "weird" or "other-worldly", with no deeper creative intentions behind them.

Even the locations had this. For example, they had the Utapau cities be in these massive sinkholes because the air pressure at the surface was far too low to sustain life. It only made sense to build their cities lower, where the pressure is greater.

 

[Mississippi Motorboater]

Even the locations had this. For example, they had the Utapau cities be in these massive sinkholes because the air pressure at the surface was far too low to sustain life. It only made sense to build their cities lower, where the pressure is greater.

The "sinkhole" quality of Utapau lended itself to a lot of creativity when it came to depicting the architectural aesthetics and even practical nature of the planet, particularly the cities. You'll notice that, for the most part, there's almost no speeders being used for public transport--instead, they use varactyl lizards like Boga to traverse the sinkhole walls and multiple platforms, and winged dactillions ascend out of one sinkhole city to the next.

Little things like that made the PT Planets feel so distinct and memorable, wrought with their own culturally-distinct sensibilities. It's why I love them so much, and why they hold a lot of nostalgia for me, the same way I imagine locales like Mos Eisley and Bespin resonate with OT die-hards.

I understand that the PT planets are widely-criticized for their digital nature, for looking too "gamey" or whatever...but they were so imaginative in how they were conceived, and endlessly creative, so I'll always appreciate them for that.

 

[Dom Cruise]

Is it just me or does all this old concept art feel a lot different than the aliens and other scifi stuff from current media? Like it's more "grounded in reality" for lack of a better term?

It just feels like it has this weird sense of plausibility. We've got monks shoving brains into robot spiders for enlightenment and I can totally see something like that existing.

Or it's just my nostalgia for all this kicking into overdrive...

The late 70s and early 80s was an amazing time for sci fi, Star Wars, Alien, Heavy Metal, Blade Runner, just incredible stuff.

 

[Creep3r]

Even the locations had this. For example, they had the Utapau cities be in these massive sinkholes because the air pressure at the surface was far too low to sustain life. It only made sense to build their cities lower, where the pressure is greater.

Its also interesting to note that the planet is inhabited by two sentient species, the Utai and Pauan, a decision to showcase the drastic evolutionary difference between a species that came to be on the surface and one below the surface, and how both live in harmony after the surface became uninhabitable.

It gets more interesting when you find out that both species were actually based on unused concept art and that their planet Utapau was an unused world from ANH's early drafts.

Anyway, back to the ROTJ art.
(where I left off: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/star-wars-griefing-thread-spoilers.32492/post-7448053)

First off, another rejected Rancor design by Johnston I missed.

"Too muppet-like!"

Now for the Max Rebo Band.

Concept art of the infamous Max Rebo band by McQuarrie.

And a model of "Der Droopy McCool" on the right conceived by talented model maker Wesley Seeds who is hardly credited on Wookieepedo and doesn't even have his own article despite his many contributions to ILM and many other franchises outside of Star Wars... The name "Droopy McCool" is a stagename, with his real name being just a bunch of clicks and whistles, though his friends called him "Snit" for short. Overall Droopy had very little difference between his concept art and finalized model, although McQuarrie's design seems to make his cheeks look like closed eyes.

Sketches of Max Rebo's instrument, the Red Ball Jett Organ/Nalargon and a model of Max himself by Phil Tippett.

Originally Max was conceived as an armless fish creature by Tippett with an odd obsession with red balls, and the horn on his keyboard was actually supposed to be a mirror. However when it came time for McQuarrie and Stuart Freeborn to finalize the designs, the organ's mirror was changed into a horn and Rebo was made a more traditional biped with arms and the unique suction cup fingers he has now (which he absorbs nutrients through), and this was the design Stuart Freeborn and the puppet makers would go with since it would prove far more easy for puppeteers to control since one of Tippett's sketches of how the puppeteer would control it would require they either bend their arms in a painful way or have two puppeteers fit into a rather small costume. The McQuarrie one was then the design that would stick with Max Rebo's species, the Ortolans (named after the real world songbirds) from then on and his feet fully shown in the Kenner model.

Disney though used the two legged version and they've been incredibly inconsistent with its design, constantly switching back and forth between four limbs and two and them making Max an embarrassment who was cucked into slavery by his brother and then died cuz we gotta make sure everyone gets cucked under Disney. There, I just added to the thread's regularly dosage of Griefing.

And here is Sy Snootles, also called Miss Snooty during production.

Sy was conceived by Phil Tippett with suggestions from Stuart Freeborn. Although some miss this, Sy's puppet has two mouths, with one on the tip of her trunk and other beneath her trunk which has some rather prominent tusks. The second mouth was removed from the special edition which bothered me to no end among other things about the new dance number in one of George's many questionable changes. Regardless, lore writers would use this as a basis for her species lore (the Pa'lowicks), with her species coming in two races, one that had tusks all their lives and one whose tusks fell out when they reached middle age when their mouths became less visible. For reference, here's a high-quality bust showcasing Sy's face in full.

Despite this, Filoni Wars introduced Sy Snootles with only one mouth and no tusks despite that she should be young as fuck, despite Filoni's bullshit claims of max consistency. Oddly enough, the version in Filoni Wars had her special edition design but with the feather headdress from the original version but not the mouths.

Somewhat related to the Max Rebo Band, here are unused concept designs for the Ewok cousins known as the Yuzzum, by Johnston and McQuarrie.

This design did not translate very well as a puppet...

The long limbs remained, but the face was... taken in a different direction. The lone yuzzum puppet ended up being used as a background character at Jabba's rather than on Endor, but unlike Disney's ugly aliens, you can barely even see him in the movie due to always being obscured, something Disney should've learned from. Despite the puppet's appearance, the Yuzzums would receive designs closer to their concept art in the Ewoks cartoon and books but made to look more menacing but with a less prominent nose. This was done to reflect their villainous role in the show as a rival and cannibalistic tribe to the Ewoks. They were also given new spider-like mounts instead of the four legged mammal from the concept art by Joe.

And here's where the Max Rebo Band connection comes in. In the 1997 special edition, Joh Yowza, a Yuzzum, was introduced as a member of the Max Rebo Band in the... new dance number.

Still ugly but in a humorous way and now had more appropriate proportions and more pronounced features.

Despite this, the TPM artbook about Wildlife in SW featured the Yuzzums but with designs more closely resembling their original concept, apparently considered a subrace of Yuzzums, likely as a compromise.

The hoofed design made them look a bit like the unnamed carcass Chewbacca found on Endor minus the tusks. Likely suggesting that these are sub-Yuzzums.

Here's a grotesque fact for those who might not know. During production, this carcass was actually the rear end of a deer and its "mouth" was actually the dead deer's swollen anus with teeth glued onto it.

So Yuzzums are not only butt ugly assholes, they literally are assholes.

Keep at it soldier. You're doing Endor proud.

And for some mandated griefing, Filoni and Disney decided to use one of the Yuzzum designs to make a new character because apparently they didn't bother to do their homework and thought these designs had never been used before. They ended up creating the Gayowls of planet ChikkinBuut. Fuck you, I'm not gonna bother learning the names of Disney rejects.

Finally to finish the subject of the Max Rebo Band, here is a previous post of mine where I covered their final fate:

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/star-w...rise-of-skywalker-spoilers.32492/post-6483326

And that's it for now.

Almost done with the Jabba's palace section. All that's left is the other unused Jabba designs, vehicles, sarlacc and guards. Then comes the Endor section.

Before I leave, here are the Slave Leia concepts.

Disney renamed her Hutt Slayer Leia because Slave Leia was deemed too racist... I've spoken about this in detail before in the post I linked above I believe or somewhere near it.

(continued here: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/star-wars-griefing-thread-spoilers.32492/post-7462695)