Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

[christie]

It was some sort of witch charm that determined if the baby was a boy or a girl based on what pattern or direction a watch swayed when held close to the belly. She actually believed this.

imagine justifying mutilating your child's genitals and destroying their chance at a normal life because your butt got big while you were pregnant. same shit, basically.

 

[Muttnik]

I'm really quite concerned at the level of sexual/boundary-pushing behavior Jazz exhibited at an early age. The obsession with genitals and sex, especially on an elementary-aged person at the time, is really disturbing.

I'm not making blatant accusations but I would have been more concerned with who Jazz had been around over gender.

 

[fleas in my brain]

I would LOVE if someone would analyze/read the Being Jazz book similar to what was done in the Schofield thread. I tried my hand at it but was finding red flags in literally every sentence and gave up out of exhaustion. But if one of you brave souls has some extra time and autism, much obliged.

If you want a short summary of what happens in the book without the analysis/psychological investigation of paragraphs, I'll put some interesting shit here for you:

-Jazz essentially was obsessed with girl shit from the instant he was born. Mermaids, pink, Disney shit, etc. He would throw a tantrum being in normal boy clothes.
-Jeanette thought he was going to be a girl because of creepy pagan woo charms shit and was pissed when she found out he was a boy.
-Ari was peeved that Jazz was now supposed to be her "Sister". She misgendered him several times and gave no fucks.
-Jazz was a little brat, throwing tantrums all the time. He threw a tantrum over getting a blue toothbrush instead of a pink one.
-Greg was less than thrilled about Jazz being trans but slowly accepted it like the cuck he was.
-Jazz would try to pick at/tuck his penis in school all the time to the point where it became a problem that the teachers had to speak up on. He was also obsessed with drawing boobs/vaginas. This is as early as elementary school.
-Jazz grew up obsessed with his girl friend's boobs. He'd stare at them all the time and would be jealous.
-Jazz would steal all of Ari's things and dress up in Ari's clothes. He even wore her bras.
-Jazz got cucked out of playing girls soccer.
-Jazz flashed his penis to his girl friends at sleepovers. Again, elementary age.
-Jazz would piss himself in protest for not being allowed to go into the girl's bathroom.
-One of Jazz's childhood best friends called him out and said he was a selfish brat. Jazz broke up their friendship.
-In fifth grade, Jazz thirsted over this boy and was ready to jump him with makeout time. He essentially scared the boy off. It's pretty cringy. Jazz would constantly blurt out wanting to make out with people, to the point where his family was uncomfortable.
-Jazz met Obama.
-Most people that Jazz tries to befriend seem genuinely creeped out/disgusted by him. The book demonizes them of course.
-Jazz wakes up his parents to tell them that he french-kissed two girls.
-Jazz's friends were obsessed with Stephen King's It and Jazz was convinced they were talking about him.
-There's a sad Q&A with Jazz's family at the end as well as some genuinely depressing family pictures.
-Ari laments not getting one on one time with her mom anymore. Misery.

That's the most I could glean quickly off the top of my head. Overall, lots of really creepy moments. Jazz comes off like someone either touched him or he's legit autistic. It's really quite horrifying.

A few points in your summary make me genuinely sympathetic for Ari. Growing up as a girl is always challenging in one way or another, and a mother’s guidance during those times can be crucial to healthy development. To have that guidance “hijacked” per say by your brother who will never have typical “girl problems” during puberty would be immensely frustrating and - I assume - would feel hurtful as well. Not to mention having your clothes stolen by your sibling on top of that, which is frustrating regardless of gender. I have had clothes stolen from me by a sister many times, and it definitely pissed me off sometimes. But if my brother was stealing my bras, I would be pissed but probably also slightly disturbed. I would not be surprised is Ari held resentment towards Jazz and/or Jeanette.
Jazz seemed like a generally intolerable child from what I’ve seen. Sharing that you were obsessed with genitals as a child you would think would be a bad move considering all the rightful speculation it puts upon the family in terms of molestation at worst, and gross exposure of sexual material or content to a child at best.

Apologies if this has been discussed at length in the past, fairly new to this thread.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

There is nothing normal about Jazz's behavior there. The clothes obsession could be attributed to many factors, but the other things... too many red flags.

I doubt he was molested, but something definitely happened to him, something that "triggered" the behavior. Could be, maybe, his mother's rejection over him being a boy.

 

[Anja Din]

-Jazz would try to pick at/tuck his penis in school all the time to the point where it became a problem that the teachers had to speak up on. He was also obsessed with drawing boobs/vaginas. This is as early as elementary school.
-Jazz grew up obsessed with his girl friend's boobs. He'd stare at them all the time and would be jealous.
-Jazz flashed his penis to his girl friends at sleepovers. Again, elementary age.

That's the most I could glean quickly off the top of my head. Overall, lots of really creepy moments. Jazz comes off like someone either touched him or he's legit autistic. It's really quite horrifying.

i hate to say it, but all that sounds like sexual abuse symptoms. I did a family law clinic once and the kids that had been molested had done shit like this. Little kids don’t usually suddenly start doing sexual stuff so young unless someone got to them already. Maybe it wasn’t his parents, but troubling if they didn’t care enough to figure out what happened and blamed it on just liking pink.

 

[Muttnik]

There are parts of the book where Jazz's obsession with private parts really do make it seem suspicious. The part where he's mentioned to constantly be tucking and picking at himself disturbed me and I had to stop reading briefly. He asks questions about his sibling's genitals, along with asking his friends. His weirdly autistic fixation on kissing and drawing boobs and vaginas and then feeling the need to tell everyone around him about it is really unsettling.

Seriously, I feel like just being an outsider sibling in this family would give me long lasting issues. Even if Jazz is the golden child, he needed to be taught about privacy and boundaries.

He mentioned at one point just staring at the flat section between Barbie's legs for hours.

Listen, Jazz doesn't strike me as autistic. But I can't explain these weird fixations without that or child sexual abuse being possible. Normal kids, even gender non-conforming ones, are not this grossly fixated on this stuff.

 

[Anja Din]

There are parts of the book where Jazz's obsession with private parts really do make it seem suspicious. The part where he's mentioned to constantly be tucking and picking at himself disturbed me and I had to stop reading briefly. He asks questions about his sibling's genitals, along with asking his friends. His weirdly autistic fixation on kissing and drawing boobs and vaginas and then feeling the need to tell everyone around him about it is really unsettling.

Seriously, I feel like just being an outsider sibling in this family would give me long lasting issues. Even if Jazz is the golden child, he needed to be taught about privacy and boundaries.

He mentioned at one point just staring at the flat section between Barbie's legs for hours.

Listen, Jazz doesn't strike me as autistic. But I can't explain these weird fixations without that or child sexual abuse being possible. Normal kids, even gender non-conforming ones, are not this grossly fixated on this stuff.

if I were the betting type, I’d bet that he was molested at some point as a kid. It’s sad, but simply dismissing all his weird sexual boundary violation type behavior isnt a great idea. especially since some molestation victims go on to mimic that assault on other little kids. There was one kid I can remember who was molested and started mimicking sex acts with his stuffed cat doll. His parents initially said they couldn’t figure out where he learned it. He molested some of his other relatives before people figured it out.

I doubt Jazz has autism and it is definitely not normal at that age to be so obsessed with pussy and titgrabbing. His parents are in denial or they just really really really wanted a troon of their very own.

 

[Muttnik]

One interesting and confusing thing that I simply can't really figure out is that, despite Jazz displaying an unnatural interest in genitals and hypersexual actions/behaviors, he also at the same time has gone on record to not have any major sexual interests or desires. He doesn't have a libido and seems to approach flirting like an alien would without the natural motions of a normal person his age. Definitely because of the blockers but his lack of boundaries just makes his behavior puzzling.
Basically he's asexual but he's obsessed with the action and functioning of sex, to the point where he spergs about it all the time in front of his family.

 

[Hongourable Madisha]

I wonder how much of that was Jeanette and Debbie telling him about "the vagina fairy" and shit like that. They - I don't believe Jazz came up with that on his own - taught him this whole fucked up folklore around genitals and sex, and he got fixated on it. That sort of lack of boundaries with a child and not teaching them that those are private and not appropriate to show, touch or talk about in most contexts, is a kind of abuse in itself. Like it's one thing to be open with a kid and answer their questions about where babies come from and stuff like that, and teach them that they can set boundaries about their body, but it's quite another to tell them about the vagina fairy or go on and on for ages to them about their genitals. I don't know if he was actually molested, but he almost didn't have to be to be showing those red flags, he was definitely groomed whether he was molested or not.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

I would LOVE if someone would analyze/read the Being Jazz book similar to what was done in the Schofield thread. I tried my hand at it but was finding red flags in literally every sentence and gave up out of exhaustion. But if one of you brave souls has some extra time and autism, much obliged.

If you want a short summary of what happens in the book without the analysis/psychological investigation of paragraphs, I'll put some interesting shit here for you:

-Jazz essentially was obsessed with girl shit from the instant he was born. Mermaids, pink, Disney shit, etc. He would throw a tantrum being in normal boy clothes.
-Jeanette thought he was going to be a girl because of creepy pagan woo charms shit and was pissed when she found out he was a boy.
-Ari was peeved that Jazz was now supposed to be her "Sister". She misgendered him several times and gave no fucks.
-Jazz was a little brat, throwing tantrums all the time. He threw a tantrum over getting a blue toothbrush instead of a pink one.
-Greg was less than thrilled about Jazz being trans but slowly accepted it like the cuck he was.
-Jazz would try to pick at/tuck his penis in school all the time to the point where it became a problem that the teachers had to speak up on. He was also obsessed with drawing boobs/vaginas. This is as early as elementary school.
-Jazz grew up obsessed with his girl friend's boobs. He'd stare at them all the time and would be jealous.
-Jazz would steal all of Ari's things and dress up in Ari's clothes. He even wore her bras.
-Jazz got cucked out of playing girls soccer.
-Jazz flashed his penis to his girl friends at sleepovers. Again, elementary age.
-Jazz would piss himself in protest for not being allowed to go into the girl's bathroom.
-One of Jazz's childhood best friends called him out and said he was a selfish brat. Jazz broke up their friendship.
-In fifth grade, Jazz thirsted over this boy and was ready to jump him with makeout time. He essentially scared the boy off. It's pretty cringy. Jazz would constantly blurt out wanting to make out with people, to the point where his family was uncomfortable.
-Jazz met Obama.
-Most people that Jazz tries to befriend seem genuinely creeped out/disgusted by him. The book demonizes them of course.
-Jazz wakes up his parents to tell them that he french-kissed two girls.
-Jazz's friends were obsessed with Stephen King's It and Jazz was convinced they were talking about him.
-There's a sad Q&A with Jazz's family at the end as well as some genuinely depressing family pictures.
-Ari laments not getting one on one time with her mom anymore. Misery.

That's the most I could glean quickly off the top of my head. Overall, lots of really creepy moments. Jazz comes off like someone either touched him or he's legit autistic. It's really quite horrifying.

Jazz really does come off as a kid who was touched repeatedly and never given any sort of help, with his molester stroking his dick and telling him it was icky and bad. Not that any of this shit is surprising.
... Does anyone think Jeanette may have actually touched him? Because right now I gotta admit I'm starting to have doubts, given every fucking thing she's done to him so far.

I wonder how much of that was Jeanette and Debbie telling him about "the vagina fairy" and shit like that. They - I don't believe Jazz came up with that on his own - taught him this whole fucked up folklore around genitals and sex, and he got fixated on it. That sort of lack of boundaries with a child and not teaching them that those are private and not appropriate to show, touch or talk about in most contexts, is a kind of abuse in itself. Like it's one thing to be open with a kid and answer their questions about where babies come from and stuff like that, and teach them that they can set boundaries about their body, but it's quite another to tell them about the vagina fairy or go on and on for ages to them about their genitals. I don't know if he was actually molested, but he almost didn't have to be to be showing those red flags, he was definitely groomed whether he was molested or not.

I'd say about 99%. Little kids are sponges and take their parents' word for gospel, who will go along with whatever bullshit conditions you set because the world is a fucking horrifying foreign place for a six year old. So if your mama insists you're actually a girl and just accidentally have a penis, you'll go along with it because "please don't leave me". The more I type the more I am absolutely disgusted by that worm Greg. Can't even stand up for your own goddamn kid, especially like this. Most kids with a mentally ill parent have refuge of having one who is slightly saner, but instead the Jennings have RabidPenisHaterMEMEME and "My Wife Cut off my Balls and Keeps Them on the Nightstand"

 

[Anja Din]

It’s possible that his mother was disgusting and weird about boundaries and that did it. She sure fixated a lot about turning Jazz into a troon as a toddler.

It’s also entirely possible that mother herself was molested and was so grossly obsessed with her kids dick being a bad bad negative thing as a result. I wonder what skeletons that bitch has in her closet.

 

[Hongourable Madisha]

It’s possible that his mother was disgusting and weird about boundaries and that did it. She sure fixated a lot about turning Jazz into a troon as a toddler.

It’s also entirely possible that mother herself was molested and was so grossly obsessed with her kids dick being a bad bad negative thing as a result. I wonder what skeletons that bitch has in her closet.

Though in that case you'd expect her to have done that to the older sons too. I wonder if it's a mix of Munchausen's by proxy, homophobia (Jazz doesn't have a sex drive now thanks to the drugs and dick butchery but he talked about feeling like a rejected gay boy to his past life regression quack) and narcissistic parenting like @sperginity discussed. She wanted a mini-me, a feminine girl to have mother-daughter spa days and manicures and shit with, and Ari was never really into all that, and since Jazz is the youngest and Jeanette had been hoping/believing all through her pregnancy with him that she'd have a girl, she made him into her gal pal from the ground-up.

 

[Kulee Baba]

Old Sigmund Freud famously hypothesized "penis envy" being a profound development step in a woman's development. Such a concept has been largely disregarded by modern psychological theory but I think it definitely holds true for the militant lesbian (see strap on fetishists) along obviously with FTM transgenders. A penis and testosterone producing testicles are known for being sources of inherent physical power.

I personally don't think Jazz was molested as the poor kid has been identifying as a girl since early childhood. With so much publicity and a TV show to boot I think Jazz would have outed her abuser at some point. I just don't see how it could have been held as a secret in the family for years with TV Cameras in the background. And I think the abuse would have happened to the rest of the kids who all seem fairly normal.

What I do think happened is that Jazz was stricken with "vagina envy." Obviously a woman's reproductive organs will always be the true mark of womanhood, beyond that where a penis can be seen as crude and ugly a vagina in culture is viewed as a thing of beauty and holds an intrinsic holiness as being the giver of birth.

What gave Jazz "vagina envy?" Maybe the young kid was yelled at for walking around naked and then thought his penis and balls were the source of ridicule. Maybe he saw pornographic imagery on television and was shocked to see a full grown endowed penis dwarfing his child sized genitals.

Whatever the case is the proper course of action would have been taking young Jaron to a psychologist who would have told him there's nothing wrong with his genitals. To be happy with how you're born. Instead Jeannette paraded him around to the news as the youngest notable transgender child, so all expectations were immediately set that he'd follow through and become a full blown woman.

It's the nightmarish inverse of a boy being abused by a homophobic parent for putting on Mommy's shoes. Instead Jazz was encouraged to be a mermaid, a creature of mythical creation. And now they're left with a basket case diva that will never live an ordinary life.

 

[The Pink Panther]

-Jazz flashed his penis to his girl friends at sleepovers. Again, elementary age.

Heh, heh, heh, what would he flash now, his ditch?

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

Old Sigmund Freud famously hypothesized "penis envy" being a profound development step in a woman's development. Such a concept has been largely disregarded by modern psychological theory but I think it definitely holds true for the militant lesbian (see strap on fetishists) along obviously with FTM transgenders. A penis and testosterone producing testicles are known for being sources of inherent physical power.

I personally don't think Jazz was molested as the poor kid has been identifying as a girl since early childhood. With so much publicity and a TV show to boot I think Jazz would have outed her abuser at some point. I just don't see how it could have been held as a secret in the family for years with TV Cameras in the background. And I think the abuse would have happened to the rest of the kids who all seem fairly normal.

What I do think happened is that Jazz was stricken with "vagina envy." Obviously a woman's reproductive organs will always be the true mark of womanhood, beyond that where a penis can be seen as crude and ugly a vagina in culture is viewed as a thing of beauty and holds an intrinsic holiness as being the giver of birth.

What gave Jazz "vagina envy?" Maybe the young kid was yelled at for walking around naked and then thought his penis and balls were the source of ridicule. Maybe he saw pornographic imagery on television and was shocked to see a full grown endowed penis dwarfing his child sized genitals.

Whatever the case is the proper course of action would have been taking young Jaron to a psychologist who would have told him there's nothing wrong with his genitals. To be happy with how you're born. Instead Jeannette paraded him around to the news as the youngest notable transgender child, so all expectations were immediately set that he'd follow through and become a full blown woman.

It's the nightmarish inverse of a boy being abused by a homophobic parent for putting on Mommy's shoes. Instead Jazz was encouraged to be a mermaid, a creature of mythical creation. And now they're left with a basket case diva that will never live an ordinary life.

I dunno, didn't that Duggar kid get away with touching his sisters?
I think Jaron had vagina envy because it was one of the requirements to his mother's love "when you get a vagina I'll love you more" "I wish you had been born a girl" like how an only child female can grow up tomboy/butch as fuck because her parents "always wished she were a boy".

 

[Anja Din]

I don’t really dislike garden variety trannies. It’s just depressing when some mentally ill woman brainwashes her kid his entire life into thinking masculine things = evil and chopping his dick off. Or when straight cis dudes decide that they’re too much incel to get a date so they slap on a wig like CWC in order to lure chicks into a false sense of safety then announce they’re looking for other lesbians.

this troons mom really fucked him up with the man-hating brainwashing so early. I hope that psycho of a mom realizes her book/tv show deal is at the cost of ruining someone’s life. Poor little fucker had no chance. Right after she got the troon to chop his dick off, she should have turned to husband and said, “you next” for being an absolute shit of a father that let his kid get butchered.

 

[Kulee Baba]

I dunno, didn't that Duggar kid get away with touching his sisters?
I think Jaron had vagina envy because it was one of the requirements to his mother's love "when you get a vagina I'll love you more" "I wish you had been born a girl" like how an only child female can grow up tomboy/butch as fuck because her parents "always wished she were a boy".

I give the Blochinskys the benefit of the doubt that no direct abuse accured since there's no definitive proof that it happened. We can only speculate that Jeannette or another immediate family member mentally warped Jazz into gender dysphoria. I think it's certainly plausible that there simply are children who are naturally born with this condition just as there are children who are born gay.

But without a doubt it was mental abuse to make Jazz a public figure at the age of 6. To declare a kid to be trans at such an early age is straight up absurd to me. To have the child go thru puberty blockers and then become a defacto eunuch before reaching adulthood is sickening abuse. Jazz was never given the option to second guess these permanent choices. Jazz was pushed into this without any chance to push the brakes.

The more I think about it the more horrific it all is. At the age of six Jazz was on national tv. At an age where most kids are just thinking about school and games Jazz's persona as a transgender icon was formed.

Jazz has no discernible skills, Jazz has no friends beyond the ones made from this bizarre coalition. If Jazz even considered returning to being "Jaron" all the fame would have evaporated.

Jazz is a child star and became a child star with a topic that was truly no stranger's business.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

. I think it's certainly plausible that there simply are children who are naturally born with this condition

Trans is not a condition. It's a symptom of a mental illness. Being gay doesn't make you multilate your genitals & claim to be the opposite sex.

 

[Law]

I dunno, didn't that Duggar kid get away with touching his sisters?

This is off-topic, but the Duggars are part of a creepy Christian fertility cult called Quiverfull. It's a totally fucked ideology. Emotional and sexual abuse happens a lot in Quiverfull families, along with trying to have as many kids as possible.
The TLC producers really don't have morals at all.

 

[Duncan Hills Coffee]

The TLC producers really don't have morals at all.

Of course they don't. TLC is the modern equivalent of the sideshow carnival, where you can see the weirdest freaks humanity has to offer, wrapped up in the gloss of reality TV. That's why they've got shows about fat people, midgets, non-gendered creatures, and other miscellaneous weirdos like the Duggars. You can almost hear the carnival barker yelling, "And riiiiight over here, we got the famous Jazz Jennings! Visited by the Vagina Fairy at the age of 3, Jazz lives their existence trying to become a woman, but can't feel any sort of sexual pleasure or feelings, and their vagina is little more than a festering hole. Will it fall out again today? Step right up, step right up, it might happen, and oh what a sight it is!"