U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

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I don't know how to express what I'm going for here. Just interesting that they're only move now is the commie millenialist version of a druck loser in a casino: You've already blown your bank account and taken a $5,000 line of credit, might as well make it $10,000 and hope you score big this time.

Could you be explaining the sunken cost fallacy? An analogy of this may be a a used car. Eventually, it needs repairs -- maybe $200 here, $300 there. Before long, something major wears out and costs $1000 or more. Some people smartly realize they're eventually spending more money on repairs than the car is worth, cut their losses, and look for another car. Those that fall for the sunken cost fallacy, however, feel that because of all the money they've invested into the car already, they need to keep spending money on it until it physically stops operating -- even if it's too much of a financial drain on them.

It could be Jeva was so determined with his role in "the cause" he thought nothing of paying for new sets of tires and other costs of running the snack van until he was in financial ruin and ultimately got #metoo-ed to add insult to injury -- his own sunken cost fallacy of sorts.

Eugene: Group of people are camping out in front of a major building on the UO campus. No claims to being with Antifa or BLM, but one of their demands is to defund and eventually disband campus police.

The name they're using for their group was already taken so they literally put a disclaimer on their banner.
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Unfortunately, this part of a larger trend across college campuses. At the University of Michigan's main campus in Ann Arbor, graduate student teachers' assistants, via their GEO union, recently went on strike for better COVID-related working conditions. That in itself seems reasonable, but they also added extraneous demands to the negotiations such as defunding/defanging campus police and not working as closely with city/local police as they have in the past.

University alumni observing and discussing the happenings felt the GEO had legitimate COVID issues and that the defunding stuff were both short-sighted and out of scope for negotiations centered on working conditions. Unfortunately, it appears the university cucked to some degree regarding the defunding demands based on this article I found about the strike's resolution. I wish I could have found something from a more mainstream source, but this will do in light of one of the paragraphs.


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One very telling (if not chilling) quote from the article:
The policing demands included commitments to revise the Michigan Ambassadors program, to consult with the undergraduate Students of Color Liberation Front (SoCLF) about changing the role of the police in the revised program, to meet with Regents on public safety, and to create a policing task force that works with the SoCLF and GEO, evaluates best practices for the Division of Public Safety and Security information transparency and issues a public report with recommendations on policing.


“Our victories on policing in particular came from our members’ refusal to abandon these demands by accepting a first offer with zero progress on them, and, importantly, from the work of some of our Black members to reorient around and win strategic first victories in a long-term abolitionist organizing campaign,” the group wrote.

Immediate thoughts:
  • Any group with "Liberation Front" in its name sounds like a bad group to capitulate to.
  • An "abolitionist organizing campaign", presumably regarding the defunding of campus safety and related demands, sounds equally bad. It also sounds that similar demands will now be made across the country even though they have nothing to do with contracts covering wages and working conditions.
The other thing is that University of Michigan is presently dealing with an ongoing sex abuse scandal right now. Any successful effort by these groups to diminish the ability of campus safety and local police to investigate this and any future instances of sexual abuse seems like a very bad idea and run counter to the usual efforts to step up policing around campus to be as proactive as possible and take immediate action when stuff does happen.

However, the fact that both the university and city of Ann Arbor as a whole are quite liberal, this sadly isn't surprising. U of M within the last few years recently decided that students with "undocumented" status would be charged in-resident rates, after all. Worse, I feel these activist groups will now feel emboldened to follow through with their intentions of demanding this all across the country -- especially since must universities won't stand up to these unions when they make such demands.

In fairness, I wouldn't be surprised to learn they don't include streaming numbers in this, as I'm 99% sure nobody has to release them. I didn't see any mention of such numbers reading the citations.

Also I wonder how much of the decreased viewership has to do with bars largely being not open for the group watching experiences of yore.
Even if the decreased TV viewership numbers are offset to some degree by people watching streaming broadcasts, not everyone that stopped watching the TV version is doing that since some older normies still find streaming services too confusing, complicated, or little more than extra cost they'd rather not spend during the pandemic when money is tighter. You're right that the league is probably still profitable for now and won't change the status quo because of that, but that may change at some point if overall viewership after factoring in both TV and internet continues to decrease in direct proportion to the league increasing emphasis on BLM and other SocJus movements over the actual games on the court.
 
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Could you be explaining the sunken cost fallacy? An analogy of this may be a a used car. Eventually, it needs repairs -- maybe $200 here, $300 there. Before long, something major wears out and costs $1000 or more. Some people smartly realize they're eventually spending more money on repairs than the car is worth, cut their losses, and look for another car. Those that fall for the sunken cost fallacy, however, feel that because of all the money they've invested into the car already, they need to keep spending money on it until it physically stops operating -- even if it's too much of a financial drain on them.

It could be Jeva was so determined with his role in "the cause" he thought nothing of paying for new sets of tires and other costs of running the snack van until he was in financial ruin and ultimately got #metoo-ed to add insult to injury -- his own sunken cost fallacy of sorts.


Unfortunately, this part of a larger trend across college campuses. At the University of Michigan's main campus in Ann Arbor, graduate student teachers' assistants, via their GEO union, recently went on strike for better COVID-related working conditions. That in itself seems reasonable, but they also added extraneous demands to the negotiations such as defunding/defanging campus police and not working as closely with city/local police as they have in the past.

University alumni observing and discussing the happenings felt the GEO had legitimate COVID issues and that the defunding stuff were both short-sighted and out of scope for negotiations centered on working conditions. Unfortunately, it appears the university cucked to some degree regarding the defunding demands based on this article I found about the strike's resolution. I wish I could have found something from a more mainstream source, but this will do in light of one of the paragraphs.


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One very telling (if not chilling) quote from the article:


Immediate thoughts:
  • Any group with "Liberation Front" in its name sounds like a bad group to capitulate to.
  • An "abolitionist organizing campaign", presumably regarding the defunding of campus safety and related demands, sounds equally bad. It also sounds that similar demands will now be made across the country even though they have nothing to do with contracts covering wages and working conditions.
The other thing is that University of Michigan is presently dealing with an ongoing sex abuse scandal right now. Any successful effort by these groups to diminish the ability of campus safety and local police to investigate this and any future instances of sexual abuse seems like a very bad idea and run counter to the usual efforts to step up policing around campus to be as proactive as possible and take immediate action when stuff does happen.

However, the fact that both the university and city of Ann Arbor as a whole are quite liberal, this sadly isn't surprising. U of M within the last few years recently decided that students with "undocumented" status would be charged in-resident rates, after all. Worse, I feel these activist groups will now feel emboldened to follow through with their intentions of demanding this all across the country -- especially since must universities won't stand up to these unions when they make such demands.


Even if the decreased TV viewership numbers are offset to some degree by people watching streaming broadcasts, not everyone that stopped watching the TV version is doing that since some older normies still find streaming services too confusing, complicated, or little more than extra cost they'd rather not spend during the pandemic when money is tighter. You're right that the league is probably still profitable for now and won't change the status quo because of that, but that may change at some point if overall viewership after factoring in both TV and internet continues to decrease in direct proportion to the league increasing emphasis on BLM and other SocJus movements over the actual games on the court.

May be outing myself here but I don't really care, but I actually live right next to Ann Arbor and do business there weekly, it is the most faux-liberal place I've ever been to. Lots of BLM flags and signs on the lawns of million dollar mansions and sorority houses, all owned by whiteys hoping it'll spare them when the rioters eventually come to A2. I just hope they avoid trashing the museums, we have a fantastic mammoth display and lots of great dinosaur fossils that I'd hate to see be smashed or end up at a pawn shop for crack money...
 
Need for attention summarizes it, but I'd say there is a bit more to it. I have said in the past that the left lost the art of battling a culture war. This connects to that. They have an image in their head of the glorious fighter, battling the horrid conservative, gaining the adoration of the public while the conservative establishment gnashes its teeth ineffectually at them.

The problem is that image is A: Unrealistic and B: No longer... applicable. They ARE the establishment, and the public turns against them more day by day. But they have married themselves to this image, the glorious idealization of a bygone era. So they aren't seeking attention per se, though that is what it ends up amounting it, they are seeking to become that idealized history themselves as they have no true dragons to slay anymore.
At the individual level all these asshats have massive hero complex which makes them easy to manipulate. Just have the MSM say "this thing GOOD and anyone who opposes it is BAD" and off they go with a new righteous cause to crusade for. Who needs pesky things like ethics, decency, or morality getting in the way?
I mean most the media they consumed is basic hero/small group of good guys overthrow monolithic evil kind of crap, they never moved on to anything more challenging. Its purely a black and white world to them with no moral grey anywhere (aside from the gender spectrum). They are so desperate to be seen as the "the good guys" it doesn't matter what horrors they commit. Because if you are not on the "right side of history" that can only mean you are on the "wrong side".
 
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I was listening to a podcast the other day where they were reading fan letters and one of the letters described a dead body they found as "male-presenting" and went on to say something along the lines of "I called the cops because I was young and naive. Fuck 12."
The ride doesn't end.
 
You are mistaking empathy for sympathy in this case.

Hoarders are like hitting your head on a concrete wall whenever you are dealing with them until they make the breakthrough, or the county makes it for them. I've watched family try to deal with hoarders and the best case result is extreme frustration typically leading to emotional exhaustion for everyone trying to help. And this is with otherwise functional, emotionally mature, and responsible adults trying to help in a comparatively low-grade case of hoarding.

Hoarders typically exhibit extremely manipulative behavior (to the end of keeping people from helping) anywhere from more passive behavior to frustrate and discourage further help, to outright aggressive and abusive (the more extreme the hoarding, typically the more difficult to deal with the hoarder is). At the level of hoarding where cat shit is piling up, none-too-often leads to getting screamed at for attempting to help, no matter who the person attempting to help is and how much the hoarder professes to love them otherwise. It isn't too uncommon for family to cut ties with or be cut off (emotionally) from the hoarder with extreme cases, either due to family members not wanting to deal with abuse when they try to help or being cut off because the hoarder starts to see them as an enemy due to their attempts to help. To say all of this tends to induce a feeling of powerlessness in those closest to the hoarder is an understatement considering the stakes typically are "hoarding family member loses their home".

I get that part.

So I'll stick by "partially explain, but not excuse" for his past actions. He made plenty of bad decisions on his own as you detail, and clearly made mistakes attempting to deal with the situations he found himself in, but growing up dealing with that shit (literally in this case) since a young age while being largely powerless to do anything about it can't do good things to the developing psyche.

And to the surprise of nobody even given this context, his final decision would follow the theme of most decisions he made in his life, impulsive and poorly thought out.
Bruh I've watched a lot of episodes of Hoarders and never have I once seen someone try to murder their siblings because their mom is a piece of shit lard.

He died how he lived - treating innocent minors as whipping boys. Third strike, you're out.
 
Once again it depends on their goals.

If they wanted trump out then shutting the fuck up and being quiet would have worked. Trump is his own worst enemy without a heel to rail against.

Is it really though? Despite Trumps gaffes, which were usually oversimplifications or exaggerating which just ended up baiting the media into reporting the actual info. His policies and stances have been fairly populist. No new wars, protect the borders, bring jobs back home.

I wonder if the media has had to go with emotional appeal of "Nazi dogwhistles" and "He's just a terrible person" because logically its hard to go into a newscast and say "Having jobs go to China and work visas for temporary workers and more foreign wars great and heres why".
 
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I"ve been to over 10 different staples in my state over the years and have never seen an african brother as an employee in a single one.
I've seen some Black folks working in NJ Staples. Once at the Staples in Somerville I was at the table with a laptop working on a flyer. There was forced as in tall masc. tranny with an inch of makeup working the print area. Very clownish. The patrons upon grabbing their printed items were visibly laughing inside as they turned away from the tranny clerk. It was pissed off because she knew everyone thought of her as a clown.

Most don't mind authentic trans who are semi or more passable. Not Craigslist crossdressers.
 
Well Wolfe City TX has become the latest small town embroiled in this shit.

One stream of it (there were three total I saw, Fluttersomething on twitch and theat weirdo white woman with a dot on her forehead was the other), nothing really happens until towards the end when multiple joggers have "jogger moments" which had to be restrained by multiple protesters when a couple white dudes showed up, one of which had a rifle. Multiple people on the BLM side had similar weapons making the reaction odd.
(encounter starts a bit after this timestamp: https://youtu.be/PYwC81lf1Xk?t=6846)

Some interesting notes:
-According to the streamer, 500 to 1000 people came out. The town has a population estimate of about 1500.
-The town is 1-2 hours away from the DFW.
-All the streamers were from out of town, several of them being seen at other protests before.
-They allegedly left around 9:30 or so but that's just because all the streams cut.
-By the end there was maybe 50-70 people blocking main street.
 
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