2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[MrJokerRager]

I realize with all these 270 to win maps that without California, the Democrats have no path to a win unless they willing to pander to guns and blue dogs and shit.

Whoever was that judge that nuked proposition 187, saved the state for the Democratic Party for a long ass time.

 

[heyitsmike]

They will have absolutely no choice but to stack the court afterwards.

That's why they might as well just sit this election out. Any progressive policies will require it first, so unless the Dems are willing to do it if they win, they have no reason to hold their nose and vote for Biden. It completely removes their sense of urgency for the election.

 

[Syaoran Li]

Were they really so insane? Their argument was basically that if we don't listen to them our culture will end up where it is now. Can't exactly say they were wrong in retrospect...

Yes, yes they really were that insane and their arguments were only correct in that "self-fulling prophecy" sort of way.

Traditionalist conservatives screwed the pooch back in the 2000's and some things just really are not worth conserving.

>Vermont
>Oregon
>Washington
>Virginia

Those states will never turn red. Especially Vermont which let Commie Bernie run around for decades.

I think there's a very slim chance Virginia might narrowly turn red one last time in 2020 and 2021, but only because of Northam's screwups and BLM's rampage making the rest of the state royally pissed as hell at the NoVAcrats. If NoVAcrat voter turnout is low enough combined with a very energized furious base, there's a slim chance of Virginia maybe being play.

Again, it's very unlikely but I can definitely see some Congressional and state seats flipping red this year even if the Democrats win.

 

[GuntPunt]

FL is always a goddamn clusterfuck of a tossup.

I'm not too worried about Florida personally. Especially with shit like this coming out of Miami.

 

[Harvey Danger]

Is Pelosi really going to pull the most stupid move ever and try to kick Trump off the ticket using A25 right before the election?

She can't, even if she wanted to try. Tickets which show up on the ballots are approved at the state level, not federal. She'd have to sue in 50 different states for emergency injunctions to get him thrown off.

And nothing about a 25th Amendment removal would prevent a President from running for a 2nd term anyway. It's entirely about his current ability to execute his current office. He could be locked up in a quarantine ward dying on a respirator while Pence runs the country, and still win a 2nd term if the Electoral College decides to give it to him.

(Of course, that's part of what the EC is there to prevent, but the fuckwits on the left who have been screeching about removing the EC always seem to forget that safeguard while they're fellating the dubious morality of the popular vote.)

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I'm not too worried about Florida personally. Especially with shit like this coming out of Miami.

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Change cubano to dominicano and I'll blast this from the window.

 

[Exterminatus]

In this scenario, I think Rhode Island would also be in play. It's the most Catholic state in the union. If the Dems show out at this confirmation hearing they are going to turn off a lot of people there.

American Catholics aren't quite as conservative as Protestant Christian conservatives, in 2016 45% of them went with pro-abortion Clinton, being pro-abortion should net you around 0% of the Catholic vote if they're actually devout in their faith as Catholic doctrine strictly condemns abortion while in the Protestant camp 56% went with Trump.

Among black Protestants they went with Hillary by 96% while whites went with Trump by around 77%

Interestingly white non-hispanic Catholics went with Trump the most, by around 64% while hispanic Catholics sided with Hillary with 78% voting for her.

Religious people that tend to go Church the most often went with Trump while those that rarely or seldom go went with Hillary which ties back in with the Catholic thing because observant Catholics are shrinking as a group in America.

 

[MrJokerRager]

American Catholics aren't quite as conservative as Protestant Christian conservatives, in 2016 45% of them went with pro-abortion Clinton, being pro-abortion should net you around 0% of the Catholic vote if they're actually devout in their faith as Catholic doctrine strictly condemns abortion while in the Protestant camp 56% went with Trump.

Among black Protestants they went with Hillary by 96% while whites went with Trump by around 77%

Interestingly white non-hispanic Catholics went with Trump the most, by around 64% while hispanic Catholics sided with Hillary with 78% voting for her.

Religious people that tend to go Church the most often went with Trump while those that rarely or seldom go went with Hillary which ties back in with the Catholic thing because observant Catholics are shrinking as a group in America.

Looking at how Ireland legalized abortion as well as making divorce easier and removing blasphemy laws, Catholicism in the Western world is dying out and to be honest, it deserves to die for its own failures as well as fucked up shit like dead babies found in some septic tank a while ago. And some politician on national television revealed how he was sexually abused as a child.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amendments_to_the_Constitution_of_Ireland#List_of_amendments_and_referendums

However the Catholic church is making gains in third world shitholes to make up for the losses.

 

[Tree]

The problem with why the Left was able to win the culture war was mainly because of the Right had spent most of the previous culture war in a similar position of moral authoritarianism except it was Christian traditionalist as opposed to Identity Politics/Anarcho-Communist.

Most of the "I just want to grill" centrist types gravitated leftward for decades because the traditionalists are bugfuck insane and the Left seemed a lot more reasonable than the hardliner moral conservatives.

Now the tables have turned and it's the Woke Left who are the moral zealots while the Religious Right are at best impotent and in severe decline or outright dead and irrelevant at worst.

I have a hard time thinking the christian traditionalists were exactly wrong, though, given where we've ended up by not being christian or traditionalist. Not that that contradicts what you've said.

 

[Syaoran Li]

I have a hard time thinking the christian traditionalists were exactly wrong, though, given where we've ended up by not being christian or traditionalist. Not that that contradicts what you've said.

Possibly, but the Religious Right's dire predictions ended up becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy for them.

The traditionalist conservatives shat the bed really badly and the fact they did so as part of an alliance with the neocons did not help matters at all. The Woke Left as we know it in "Current Year" got its start as a backlash against the Religious Right

 

[JosephStalin]

Folks, said it before, saying it again. Do your Amazon poll. People nationwide actually have to put their money where their mouths are. The money's going for Trump stuff.

Look around your areas. My area is very, very blue. STILL haven't seen one Biden sign. Have seen one large Trump sign, unmolested.

I'd stop worrying about the polls. Pay attention to what you actually see in your lives. The ONLY poll that counts is that taken on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November. The nationwide popular vote means zilch, too. The only Presidential result that counts is the Electoral College result.

 

[XYZpdq]

Have seen one large Trump sign, unmolested.

the ones in front of my job got stolen lol

 

[The Pink Panther]

Im not sure what places you guys are in. But I live in a deep blue state in a deep blue area and I havent seen a single Trump or Biden sign yet.

Weirdly enough though when I was at the mall very early this year I remember seeing a Hispanic lady with a MAGA hat on eating with her children. That was an intriguing sight.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

I'd stop worrying about the polls.

That is because the polls are doing insane back flips to get Biden wins.

The +16 Biden for Rassmusen?

Assumed that Donald Trump would get a smaller % of republican votes than George H.W. Bush did against Clinton.

You know, the election after "Read my lips no new taxes" got violated..and Ross Perot ran.

 

[CrippleThreat]

This is the best case for a Trump win with a mandate.

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I feel as if this ia only possible if:
- Pelosi's hijinxs on 25A get through, but obviously fail in the end, rallying the right together hard either way.
- Barr gets off his ass and starts the indictment train before the election
- 10 nogs die, 100 riots starts in blue states, and Trump comes to help as the savior.

If we're talking 400+:
- COVID (all cases and deaths) end in the US by tomorrow with no traces left (Xi would have to do gayops just to start it again over here).
- Trump is confirmed voodoo warlock and resurrects / reanimates the 200k+ dead.

500+ (never happening btw):
- Anyone slightly to the left realizes the media is fake.
- Majority of the left realizes Orange Man really is not that bad.

Work of God 535:
- People expect the media' to become pariahs after reelection.
- Any dream scenario you can think of.

 

[Kornheiser]

Im not sure what places you guys are in. But I live in a deep blue state in a deep blue area and I havent seen a single Trump or Biden sign yet.

Weirdly enough though when I was at the mall very early this year I remember seeing a Hispanic lady with a MAGA hat on eating with her children. That was an intriguing sight.

The problem I have in my neighborhood is that there are a lot of dem operatives living near me so there are a lot of Biden signs. One house though has a Trump flag flying next door to a commie nut. When I say operatives I mean local party leaders, candidates for office and former elected officials from local offices to a governor. I hate them so much.

 

[Vaclav]

Mexicans don't like niggers and it's niggers they come into contact with most of the time, not professional/hard working blacks. The Democratic party is catering to niggers and their enablers with the reparations and diversity pandering exclusively and throwing everyone else under the bus.

This, the Democrats have made an incredibly dumb move putting all their chips on BLM. They used to be the "PoC" party, and the gay party and the womens' party. Now they're just the Black Party. Black issues above all, everyone else can go to the back of the bus. Their coalition was always unstable and high maintenance, it took a lot of work to get the different interest groups all marching in the same direction. A lot of them, like Latinos and blacks, have had to be kept mostly separate from each other so that they don't end up infighting.

All the careful work it took to coordinate these groups under one banner has been destroyed in a few months. Now people are even getting lectured on "brown privilege" and "Asian privilege." All must kneel and fellate the BBC. And the funny thing is, the Democrats have so much faith in their demographics-is-destiny strategy that if the Dem majorities among nonwhite groups decline even a bit, Democrats will never have a shot at controlling any branch of government.

 

[Orange Man Costume]

I feel as if this ia only possible if:
- Pelosi's hijinxs on 25A get through, but obviously fail in the end, rallying the right together hard either way.
- Barr gets off his ass and starts the indictment train before the election
- 10 nogs die, 100 riots starts in blue states, and Trump comes to help as the savior.

If we're talking 400+:
- COVID (all cases and deaths) end in the US by tomorrow with no traces left (Xi would have to do gayops just to start it again over here).
- Trump is confirmed voodoo warlock and resurrects / reanimates the 200k+ dead.

500+ (never happening btw):
- Anyone slightly to the left realizes the media is fake.
- Majority of the left realizes Orange Man really is not that bad.

Work of God 535:
- People expect the media' to become pariahs after reelection.
- Any dream scenario you can think of.

What if Biden just dies before the election? Will the turnout for Kamala be enough to win any of those states?

 

[Jarolleon]

On AZ, I agree that it is shifting, but not in that severe a way to make it riden with Biden. GOP have today regained their 100k voter registration gap since the Democratic shift in 2018. It still, albiet slightly, is trending Republican. Also, apparently McCain was doing everything in his power to subvert Trump winning the state by refusing Trump to have a ground game in 2016. The AZ GOP chair is now a Trumplican, so the ground game can resume.

I agree we should keep observing PA registrations for any upticks in either candidates support, but I shall stress, you do not stop a realignment easily. I do not think the stimulus talks dissolving again changes much.

Why? Because its 2020 motherfucker, that's why. Since this nuclear tier bomb got dropped by Trump onto himself: Pence channeled the spirit of Tulsi and executed Harris, the media tried to cover for her with articles about mansplaining and a fly, BLM destroyed more WI suburbs, Trump and Biden duked it out about debate 2 rules and dates, and Trump got the greenlight for more rallies by tomorrow. I didn't even remember that what you mentioned just happened, and I wrote a short novel on it 2 days ago. Also, with Pelosi potentially doing the most full-retard move you can do by invoking the 25th Amendment to overthrow Trump via Congress somehow, I am not worried about the stimulus talks.

Like I said, will it matter 24 hours from now?

Doesn't BLM destroying suburbs help the Dems, by intimidating whites into voting Dem to make the beatings stop? Obviously Trump isn't stopping them, and it's not like they understand civics well enough to know why.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Doesn't BLM destroying suburbs help the Dems, by intimidating whites into voting Dem to make the beatings stop? Obviously Trump isn't stopping them, and it's not like they understand civics well enough to know why.

If that that low iq they aren't voting.