2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[MrJokerRager]

I still think Ken Bone looks like a typical milquetoast idiot responsible for the culture that has lead to many of society's problems that gave strong breeding grounds for ANTIFA and BLM. However my respect for him has somewhat increased.

 

[Notgoodwithusernames]

Some canuck in a server Im in keeps saying Biden will win and the polls in 2016 "technically werent wrong"

Also anyone wanna raid the next lincoln project livestream?

 

[JosephStalin]

 

[Eto]

I still think Ken Bone looks like a typical milquetoast idiot responsible for the culture that has lead to many of society's problems that gave strong breeding grounds for ANTIFA and BLM. However my respect for him has somewhat increased.


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Do these idiots not realize that you can turn that logic around on them by saying a vote for third party is a vote for Biden? A vote for someone is a vote for that particular person, not whoever is the opposite party of you. While I think a third party vote is a wasted vote, I can at least commend someone for standing by their principles. Fuck these assholes for shaming him and anyone else who vote differently.

 

[MrJokerRager]

This, the Democrats have made an incredibly dumb move putting all their chips on BLM. They used to be the "PoC" party, and the gay party and the womens' party. Now they're just the Black Party. Black issues above all, everyone else can go to the back of the bus. Their coalition was always unstable and high maintenance, it took a lot of work to get the different interest groups all marching in the same direction. A lot of them, like Latinos and blacks, have had to be kept mostly separate from each other so that they don't end up infighting.

All the careful work it took to coordinate these groups under one banner has been destroyed in a few months. Now people are even getting lectured on "brown privilege" and "Asian privilege." All must kneel and fellate the BBC. And the funny thing is, the Democrats have so much faith in their demographics-is-destiny strategy that if the Dem majorities among nonwhite groups decline even a bit, Democrats will never have a shot at controlling any branch of government.

With the exception of minorities educated in the universities and are usually very well off after they graduate.

All other minorities hate niggers and looked greatly down upon them. The democrats are staffed with minorities filled with woke neoliberal garbage so they dont get it that other groups have their own self interests.

And we can also blame niggers for this as well since the niggers part of the Congressional Black Caucus have sold out the black community. They backed the crime bills and did not offer resistance to stopping illegal immigration.

 

[Someone Awful]

On AZ, I agree that it is shifting, but not in that severe a way to make it riden with Biden. GOP have today regained their 100k voter registration gap since the Democratic shift in 2018. It still, albiet slightly, is trending Republican. Also, apparently McCain was doing everything in his power to subvert Trump winning the state by refusing Trump to have a ground game in 2016. The AZ GOP chair is now a Trumplican, so the ground game can resume.

I agree we should keep observing PA registrations for any upticks in either candidates support, but I shall stress, you do not stop a realignment easily. I do not think the stimulus talks dissolving again changes much.

Why? Because its 2020 motherfucker, that's why. Since this nuclear tier bomb got dropped by Trump onto himself: Pence channeled the spirit of Tulsi and executed Harris, the media tried to cover for her with articles about mansplaining and a fly, BLM destroyed more WI suburbs, Trump and Biden duked it out about debate 2 rules and dates, and Trump got the greenlight for more rallies by tomorrow. I didn't even remember that what you mentioned just happened, and I wrote a short novel on it 2 days ago. Also, with Pelosi potentially doing the most full-retard move you can do by invoking the 25th Amendment to overthrow Trump via Congress somehow, I am not worried about the stimulus talks.

Like I said, will it matter 24 hours from now?

Fair point about Arizona. I still think it will trend left but even with ballot fraud, it shouldn't be close enough to flip the state to Biden. Though I will say this, learning that McCain wanted to subvert Trump's ground game in Arizona has me losing even more respect for him than I already did. Hopefully Trump gets to do a couple of rallies in Arizona before the election since it will prove to be a crucial state for him to keep.

As for concerns regarding stopping realignment, BLM destroying Milwaukee's suburbs and Trump and Biden arguing over Debate 2's rules won't matter. That said, greenlighting more rallies and Pence pounding Harris into the ground will help Trump, especially as the latter provides a roadmap for how Trump can conduct himself among the undecided voters when he performs one more debate (and unlike the second debate, does not have an excuse to skip out on). But I do need to point out someone almost no one else is getting.

Pelosi is not trying to invoke the 25th Amendment on Trump. She is trying to shift any and all focus away from Biden and into Trump while also hoping to delay Barrett's confirmation.

This is meant to accomplish two things, push undecided voters to vote for Biden and also to ensure that no one stands in the way of voting fraud since it's obvious Roberts has been bought out at this point. Never assume your opponent will make the stupid move, and this is not a stupid move. She can keep the focus on the coronavairus being the main issue - Trump's weakest subject - and she'll accept the short-term consequences if it means getting Trump out and Harris in. This was coordinated, possibly as a final solution move, and it can work. It's why I brought up the stimulus bill and Trump having COVID. He's lucky he appears to have beaten the virus, but the subject is not going away from the media headline. This is the planned October Surprise and quite possibly the showdown that decides the election.

It's why the final report on October 19th in Pennsylvania will be so important to analyze. Media and university outlets will inevitably bump the polls to an even higher percentage than before to run a landslide narrative. Pennsylvania's voter registration change from October 5th to October 19th will shed light on if people are buying the shenanigans that will come up or not. What better litmus test to see if Pelosi's scheme will work than if she widens the Democratic gap in the last eleven days that you can register in the state that will likely decide the election?

I'll bring up Dog-O-Tron post he made in the Articles & Happening subsection. He brings up very good points.

Pretty much. Look at the last week and a half, with the election 1 month out:
--RGB is dead, Trump is all but assured of being able to create a long term conservative majority on the SC before the election
--Presidential Debate was pretty much a tie. Both sides looked bad, both sides say their guy dunked on the other guy. In reality Trump was Trump, and all Biden had to do was keep his cool. Instead he tried to out Trump Trump and got baited into looking bad
--Trump gets COVID. Trump shows no bad effects. Trump sails through and never misses a beat, recovering rapidly
--Kamala gets assraped by Pence her own smug petulance at the VP Debate
--Trump says "nah, fuck it" to any more debates
--Biden is Hidin'

So this is a Hail Mary on her part. This isn't to actually remove Trump, it's to get people talking about Trump's (alleged) lack of fitness. To cast doubts on the few undecided swing voters left that Trump should not be in office. To call attention to the fact that Orange Man is Bad and Sick and maybe throw a few more counties Joe's way and tip a couple states. She has no serious hope of taking Trump down like that and she knows it. She just is figuring the optics of "cast doubt on Trump's health/mind/fitness" outweighs the fact that she's talking a soft coup less than a month before the election.

She'll probably announce this Committee to Investigate the Health of Our Fascist Not Our President and Recommendations For How We Can Easily Remove Presidents in the Future and have it running parallel with the SC Hearings to get that diminished in the news cycle. Then a few days before the election they will duly announce they feel Drumpf is unable to continue as President due to BRAIN PROBLEMS and she'll hold a sham vote in the House calling for the removal of Trump so that is headlines on 11/3.

Not saying I agree, or it's a good plan, but I think this is her mindset.

 

[TrippinKahlua]

Folks, said it before, saying it again. Do your Amazon poll. People nationwide actually have to put their money where their mouths are. The money's going for Trump stuff.

Look around your areas. My area is very, very blue. STILL haven't seen one Biden sign. Have seen one large Trump sign, unmolested.

I'd stop worrying about the polls. Pay attention to what you actually see in your lives. The ONLY poll that counts is that taken on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November. The nationwide popular vote means zilch, too. The only Presidential result that counts is the Electoral College result.

I live in Central Florida, and I saw a big Trump/Pence sign in an underpass under I-4.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

It's over! Johnny Rotten has endorsed Trump!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdUi_juHcl0
https://archive.vn/lvmJi

 

[StarkRavingMad]

I still think Ken Bone looks like a typical milquetoast idiot responsible for the culture that has lead to many of society's problems that gave strong breeding grounds for ANTIFA and BLM. However my respect for him has somewhat increased.

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I hate people who are all like "If you voted third party, then you helped Hillary lose, and thusly helped Trump win! You basically voted for Trump!"

No. It means that they voted third party. People have every right to vote for whomever they want. End of story.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

You know when every pundit is saying that Joe will get 2008 level turnout, that is laughable but I think there is some credibility to that level of thinking if we look at the Democratic Primaries of this year.

Joe Biden received the most primary votes for any presidential candidate during the primaries, which is a bit of a big deal. However I think there are some factors that caused this:

1. There were many more candidates in the field compared to the 2016 primaries which was just Clinton and Bernie.

2. There was no foregone conclusion like in 2016 where it was clear Clinton would win from the very beginning.

3. Biden had more name recognition than most of the Primary candidates

Of course the only other weird factor for this is that Trump has received the most votes of any Republican politician in the 2020 primaries which is a big deal since he's an incumbent president and that amount of votes is the second highest for any primary presidential candidate which is odd because an incumbent president usually does not receive more votes in their re-election primary compared to their first time primary.

 

[spiritofamermaid]

You know when every pundit is saying that Joe will get 2008 level turnout, that is laughable but I think there is some credibility to that level of thinking if we look at the Democratic Primaries of this year.

Joe Biden received the most primary votes for any presidential candidate during the primaries, which is a bit of a big deal. However I think there are some factors that caused this:

1. There were many more candidates in the field compared to the 2016 primaries which was just Clinton and Bernie.

2. There was no foregone conclusion like in 2016 where it was clear Clinton would win from the very beginning.

3. Biden had more name recognition than most of the Primary candidates

Of course the only other weird factor for this is that Trump has received the most votes of any Republican politician in the 2020 primaries which is a big deal since he's an incumbent president and that amount of votes is the second highest for any primary presidential candidate which is odd because an incumbent president usually does not receive more votes in their re-election primary compared to their first time primary.

Wait, what? I thought, if taken just by primary votes, Trump would win, since overall he had more than Biden.

 

[GuntPunt]

We got some interesting metrics coming out.

Gallup came out with the " Are you better off now than 4 years ago?" poll. Some suprising results. Either independents have massive crossover to Republicans or massive polling errors.

The VP debate was watched by about 60 million people, making it the 2nd most viewed VP debate in history behind Biden / Palin in 08, which was about 70 million viewers. For reference, Kaine v. Pence was 37 million viewers in 2016. This debate really seemed to matter.

Also, MSNBC is mad because Pence pinned the fracking ban to Biden. Mission accomplished, but keep hammering it.

Also, Steve Scully, the 2nd debate janny who asked professional backstabber Scaramoochi for advice, deleted his Twitter to hide the collusion and then reinstated his Twitter and finally learned how to delete tweets. Peak boomer.

 

[RumblyTumbly]

What I want more than anything is for politics and the news media to become boring again.

Right now, its just a goddamn shit show that never stops and panders to rambling morons.

If they become boring and straightforward again, it'll be followed by smart and mature people on both sides and leave the fringe idiots out of the mix.

But no way in fuck any of that is happening any time soon.

 

[Meat Target]

What I want more than anything is for politics and the news media to become boring again.

Right now, its just a goddamn shit show that never stops and panders to rambling morons.

If they become boring and straightforward again, it'll be followed by smart and mature people on both sides and leave the fringe idiots out of the mix.

But no way in fuck any of that is happening any time soon.

That's really the only thing I miss about the Obama years; I didn't like him, but at least I could ignore him for a significant amount of time.

Having skin in the game via Trump, or at least the illusion of it, has made me neurotically obsessed with the news cycle. This dopamine addiction, fueled by constant need for updates on changes in the wind, is what has reduced our society to a gaggle of apoplectic loons.

 

[Marchesa of the Vast]

Nor are we "despondent" like Nate Pewter somehow believes.
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Does this retard take every anonymous call that comes to his phone? Because I sure as shit don't. In fact robocalling has been soo consistent and bad for me the last decade that I almost reflexively hang up all incoming calls. If he's hinging his analysis on this then Nate Graphite is way too up his own ass.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Accidentally posted this in the Joe Biden thread whoops. Copying it here.

New Trafalgar Poll of AZ:

https://twitter.com/RobertCahaly/status/1314570906132533250

Arizona October Presidential Poll

www.thetrafalgargroup.org

Is this a blue wave?

Some interesting points.

It's 8 points in favor of women, which may even make it more pro-Biden than it should be. But who knows what the gender breakdown will look like on election day.

The 35-44 age group is less represented than the 25-34 age group by about a percent. Maybe that will be true, but it doesn't feel exactly right to me. Haven't looked into AZ stats, though, so maybe this is normal and expected for AZ.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Accidentally posted this in the Joe Biden thread whoops. Copying it here.

New Trafalgar Poll of AZ:

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https://tw.tinf.io/RobertCahaly/status/1314570906132533250

Arizona October Presidential Poll

www.thetrafalgargroup.org

Is this a blue wave?

Some interesting points.

It's 8 points in favor of women, which may even make it more pro-Biden than it should be. But who knows what the gender breakdown will look like on election day.

The 35-44 age group is less represented than the 25-34 age group by about a percent. Maybe that will be true, but it doesn't feel exactly right to me. Haven't looked into AZ stats, though, so maybe this is normal and expected for AZ.

Trafalgar is interesting as some of the other polls indicate that Trump is also winning Ohio, narrowly winning Michigan, and that Wisconsin is a close race.

 

[Maamtis]

Folks, said it before, saying it again. Do your Amazon poll. People nationwide actually have to put their money where their mouths are. The money's going for Trump stuff.

Look around your areas. My area is very, very blue. STILL haven't seen one Biden sign. Have seen one large Trump sign, unmolested.

I'd stop worrying about the polls. Pay attention to what you actually see in your lives. The ONLY poll that counts is that taken on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November. The nationwide popular vote means zilch, too. The only Presidential result that counts is the Electoral College result.

This. Everything I've seen points towards a comfortable Trump win. Give me all the optimistic ratings you like but we'll find out in 3 weeks.

That is because the polls are doing insane back flips to get Biden wins.

The +16 Biden for Rassmusen?

Assumed that Donald Trump would get a smaller % of republican votes than George H.W. Bush did against Clinton.

You know, the election after "Read my lips no new taxes" got violated..and Ross Perot ran.

I still think they're trying desperately to create a bandwagon effect for Biden. I don't think it's gonna work cause I imagine people are more excited to floss than vote for Biden.

I fully expect Peloisi's latest stunt to backfire. Anyone who isn't blinded by TDS will likely see this as the Dems raising the white flag cause I don't think anyone really believes these polls.

 

[Kiwi Farms Lurker]

It's over! Johnny Rotten has endorsed Trump!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdUi_juHcl0
https://archive.vn/lvmJi
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This means that Jimmy Savile would have been a Biden supporter by default.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Im not sure what places you guys are in. But I live in a deep blue state in a deep blue area and I havent seen a single Trump or Biden sign yet.

Weirdly enough though when I was at the mall very early this year I remember seeing a Hispanic lady with a MAGA hat on eating with her children. That was an intriguing sight.

In the city, I see a ton of Biden signs. I have seen countless Biden signs and a total of two Trump signs.

But outside the city, it's probably 2/3 Trump, 1/3 Biden signs.

Also, the money thing (not your post) is a bit misleading because Trump's supporters are likely more willing to spend money on Trump memorabilia than Biden's supporters are willing to spend on Biden memorabilia. Even the most enthusiastic supporter's votes are only worth as much as the least enthusiastic supporter's